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Originally Posted By NYPat
She was referring to the original vax for the original strain, which was more effective than all the traditional vaccines.

You guys like to re-write history after the fact.
The cultists and anti-vaxxer idiots love to trade in absolutes. The vaccine issue is one of their favorites. Obviously, if you're offering a quick soundbyte on TV you are going to say the vaccine prevents disease and guards against the virus. You're on TV talking to lay folk, it's not as if you have the time or inclination to say "Vaccine is effective but it doesn't prevent the virus from getting into your body and only lessens the symptoms and infectious period because there is a difference between infection and actual disease y know cuz DURRRRRRRRR....."

No, you just state that the vaccine prevents death and sickness because any one who is actually educated will understand that it's not an all or nothing issue, and there's a genuine difference between infection and disease. They also have enough social awareness to understand on TV you can't launch into nuanced explanations of the above every time you talk.


They would also realize only an angry idiot would criticize someone on TV who is not an actual scientist for not going into lengthy scientific expositions every time they talk.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
The cultists and anti-vaxxer idiots love to trade in absolutes. The vaccine issue is one of their favorites. Obviously, if you're offering a quick soundbyte on TV you are going to say the vaccine prevents disease and guards against the virus. You're on TV talking to lay folk, it's not as if you have the time or inclination to say "Vaccine is effective but it doesn't prevent the virus from getting into your body and only lessens the symptoms and infectious period because there is a difference between infection and actual disease y know cuz DURRRRRRRRR....."

No, you just state that the vaccine prevents death and sickness because any one who is actually educated will understand that it's not an all or nothing issue, and there's a genuine difference between infection and disease. They also have enough social awareness to understand on TV you can't launch into nuanced explanations of the above every time you talk.


They would also realize only an angry idiot would criticize someone on TV who is not an actual scientist for not going into lengthy scientific expositions every time they talk.
Yep. And they re-wrote history after every variant came out because the original vaccine became less effective and they all started screeching "See! I told you! It doesn't work!!!!"

They did the same thing with each variant as they became less deadly.. "See! I told you! It's the sniffles!!!!"

Which of course was a catch 22 for them because they couldn't make up their minds if it was the world's deadliest virus unleashed on the world by China (The Plandemic) or it was just the sniffles and Trump locked the country down for nothing..

I'm not sure why I even bother responding to these people.
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Originally Posted By NYPat
No she was not lying, you're thinking of that lying pos Tucker Carlson who cost his company a billion dollars and got fired.
Watching you and Bodhy perform mental gymnastics over fake news Maddow is 10/10.

Rachel Maddow and MSNBC have zero credibility.



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[QUOTE=gwg77 post_id=1699087793]Watching you and Bodhy perform mental gymnastics over fake news Maddow is 10/10.[img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Rachel Maddow and MSNBC have zero credibility.



[img]https://i.imgur.com/zj7djqG.jpeg[img][/QUOTE]This just in.. she's an entertainment show on in the evening... doesn't mean she intentionally lies to her audience. That's Fox News.

And feel free to fact check her show last night, it was excellent!
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Originally Posted By NYPat
This just in.. she's an entertainment show on in the evening... doesn't mean she intentionally lies to her audience. That's Fox News.
There's no mental gymnastics from me here, either. She's not a scientist, she's a journalist appearing on an evening TV show. She's conflated infection and disease in the clinical sense of the term. An easy concession and the laypeople are not likely to know the difference.



How this detracts from her pro-vaccination message I don't understand, or this shows she was "lying". It looks like a farcical reason to manufacture outrage.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps
And here it is, one of the biggest retards on the forum with another whataboutism.

Imagine thinking Tucker Carlson is as slimy of a propaganda rat as Rachel Madcow
.He was a big part of the 787 million settlement Fox had to pay out.
Imagine how big of a liability you have to be to get fired by Fox, whose only reason for existence is to be a propaganda machine for the Republican party.
https://apnews.com/article/fox-news-...80b3e747fb0afe
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Originally Posted By BunkerBoy
.He was a big part of the 787 million settlement Fox had to pay out.
Imagine how big of a liability you have to be to get fired by Fox, whose only reason for existence is to be a propaganda machine for the Republican party.
https://apnews.com/article/fox-news-...80b3e747fb0afe
Maybe because Tucker isn't a part of the propaganda machine? Lol.

Dude literally flew to Russia to interview Putin and went to Russian supermarkets to see if the bullchit America was spreading about how effective "muh sankshuns" were for attacking Ukraine. Turns out they're doing just fine

Meanwhile, Rachel Madcow and other retards like Whoopi Cushion are saying Biden can arrest every republican if he wants to. Nothing but the kool-aid you love to drink
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Originally Posted By gwg77
You literally consume fake news every single day
Classic Trump projecting.




Originally Posted By BunkerBoy
.He was a big part of the 787 million settlement Fox had to pay out.
Imagine how big of a liability you have to be to get fired by Fox, whose only reason for existence is to be a propaganda machine for the Republican party.
https://apnews.com/article/fox-news-...80b3e747fb0afe
Maddow got a massive raise and promotion, Tucker gets fired into obscurity.

Guess who they trust.

LOL



Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps
Maybe because Tucker isn't a part of the propaganda machine? Lol.

Dude literally flew to Russia to interview Putin and went to Russian supermarkets to see if the bullchit America was spreading about how effective "muh sankshuns" were for attacking Ukraine. Turns out they're doing just fine

Meanwhile, Rachel Madcow and other retards like Whoopi Cushion are saying Biden can arrest every republican if he wants to. Nothing but the kool-aid you love to drink
Dude literally LIES TO YOU. INTENTIONALLY.

And imagine bragging about going to Russia to suck off Putin...

You people are something else..
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
There's no mental gymnastics from me here, either. She's not a scientist, she's a journalist appearing on an evening TV show. She's conflated infection and disease in the clinical sense of the term. An easy concession and the laypeople are not likely to know the difference.



How this detracts from her pro-vaccination message I don't understand, or this shows she was "lying". It looks like a farcical reason to manufacture outrage.
Oh no, the fat balding autistic and unemployable chit smearer is talking out of his ass again.
Wort ew in th wold.
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I thought only Neilson and cable boxes cared what people watch; the rest of us don't give a flying f k.
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Originally Posted By gwg77
That bitch was lying. And you're trying to re-write history.

Fuсk outta here.

I actually negged him, something I never do, for that reply.
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Originally Posted By NYPat
She was referring to the original vax for the original strain, which was more effective than all the traditional vaccines.

You guys like to re-write history after the fact.
none of the covid vaxxes stopped transmission of the virus between hosts.

Why do you continue to lie and lie and lie. WTF is wrong with you.

fkn pos
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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps
Oh no, the fat balding autistic and unemployable chit smearer is talking out of his ass again.
he thinks anyone will listen to someone that can't keep a minimum wage job, a fork out of his mouth, and has to depend on food stamps LOLOLOLLOLOLOLOL
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Originally Posted By 6gorillion
none of the covid vaxxes stopped transmission of the virus between hosts.

Why do you continue to lie and lie and lie. WTF is wrong with you.

fkn pos
Are you autistic? No vaccine "stops" transmission", they shut it down before symptoms and the ability to transmit. The original covid vaccines did the the same for the original virus.

Facts and Trumpers don't mix.



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I actually negged him, something I never do, for that reply.
Check your CP cry baby. It's like you negged yourself 5 times. Congrats.
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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps
And here it is, one of the biggest retards on the forum with another whataboutism.

Imagine thinking Tucker Carlson is as slimy of a propaganda rat as Rachel Madcow
Hard to imagine, but NYFAT will believe anything they tell him.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
The cultists and anti-vaxxer idiots love to trade in absolutes. The vaccine issue is one of their favorites. Obviously, if you're offering a quick soundbyte on TV you are going to say the vaccine prevents disease and guards against the virus. You're on TV talking to lay folk, it's not as if you have the time or inclination to say "Vaccine is effective but it doesn't prevent the virus from getting into your body and only lessens the symptoms and infectious period because there is a difference between infection and actual disease y know cuz DURRRRRRRRR....."

No, you just state that the vaccine prevents death and sickness because any one who is actually educated will understand that it's not an all or nothing issue, and there's a genuine difference between infection and disease. They also have enough social awareness to understand on TV you can't launch into nuanced explanations of the above every time you talk.


They would also realize only an angry idiot would criticize someone on TV who is not an actual scientist for not going into lengthy scientific expositions every time they talk.
You should be banned again for spewing nonsense
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Originally Posted By NYPat
Are you autistic? No vaccine "stops" transmission", they shut it down before symptoms and the ability to transmit. The original covid vaccines did the the same for the original virus.

Facts and Trumpers don't mix.







Check your CP cry baby. It's like you negged yourself 5 times. Congrats.
They literally claimed over and over again that it STOPS the VIRUS and it won't TRANSMIT.

You literally just watched a posted video of her saying it and you're still trying to say "NUH UH!!!!!"? Holy fkn ****.
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Originally Posted By 6gorillion
They literally claimed over and over again that it STOPS the VIRUS and it won't TRANSMIT.

You literally just watched a posted video of her saying it and you're still trying to say "NUH UH!!!!!"? Holy fkn ****.
I'll ask again. Are you autistic. Answer the question first before I go on.
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Originally Posted By NYPat
Are you autistic? No vaccine "stops" transmission", they shut it down before symptoms and the ability to transmit. The original covid vaccines did the the same for the original virus.

Facts and Trumpers don't mix.







Check your CP cry baby. It's like you negged yourself 5 times. Congrats.
Why do you bother? They're utterly incapable of thinking outside of absolutes. They can't understand a vaccine that doesn't make infection absolutelyimpossiblecan still be effective. No vaccine makes infection impossible. They reduce symptoms and disease, and make you infectious for less time so it makes the illness more manageable and domesticated.


Anti-vaxxers have the mentality of 4 year olds. Information they don't like? Throw a tantrum and resort to child-tier name calling, drop a butthurt neg, then leave.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By NYPat
I'll ask again. Are you autistic. Answer the question first before I go on.
Banned. LMAO
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
Why do you bother? They're utterly incapable of thinking outside of absolutes. They can't understand a vaccine that doesn't make infection absolutelyimpossiblecan still be effective. No vaccine makes infection impossible. They reduce symptoms and disease, and make you infectious for less time so it makes the illness more manageable and domesticated.


Anti-vaxxers have the mentality of 4 year olds. Information they don't like? Throw a tantrum and resort to child-tier name calling, drop a butthurt neg, then leave.
Like when Biden literally said "you can't get Covid if you're vaccinated"?
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
The cultists and anti-vaxxer idiots love to trade in absolutes. The vaccine issue is one of their favorites. Obviously, if you're offering a quick soundbyte on TV you are going to say the vaccine prevents disease and guards against the virus. You're on TV talking to lay folk, it's not as if you have the time or inclination to say "Vaccine is effective but it doesn't prevent the virus from getting into your body and only lessens the symptoms and infectious period because there is a difference between infection and actual disease y know cuz DURRRRRRRRR....."

No, you just state that the vaccine prevents death and sickness because any one who is actually educated will understand that it's not an all or nothing issue, and there's a genuine difference between infection and disease. They also have enough social awareness to understand on TV you can't launch into nuanced explanations of the above every time you talk.


They would also realize only an angry idiot would criticize someone on TV who is not an actual scientist for not going into lengthy scientific expositions every time they talk.
So what you're saying is thst you're up to date with your booster shots? Otherwise you're anti-vax.
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Meh...I avoid liberal media like the plague but it's good to have a different perspective...yeah, I realize how extremely out of touch they might be when it comes to the average American and just how extreme and racially motivated they are. Otherwise we'd be living in an echo chamber...I just have a difficult time wrapping my head around being bothered by what others do..that's freedom folks..so long as they aren't breaking any laws then the best course of action imo is to ignore them.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
Why do you bother? They're utterly incapable of thinking outside of absolutes. They can't understand a vaccine that doesn't make infection absolutelyimpossiblecan still be effective. No vaccine makes infection impossible. They reduce symptoms and disease, and make you infectious for less time so it makes the illness more manageable and domesticated.


Anti-vaxxers have the mentality of 4 year olds. Information they don't like? Throw a tantrum and resort to child-tier name calling, drop a butthurt neg, then leave.
The issue is, folks like you ride in on your moral high horse and essentially do exactly what you accuse others of...which is acting like a 4 year old. If I were to say anything different than I'm a Trump cultist...if I don't want the Vax then I'm an anti vaxxer with the mental capacity of a child..etc...

It's the whole do as I say, not as I do attitude that really bothers me...it goes both ways. People on the left and right are equally guilty. You should at least make an effort to acknowledge that.
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Originally Posted By NYPat
I'll ask again. Are you autistic. Answer the question first before I go on.
Your friend Bodhy is diagnosed autistic. How dare you use that term to slander someone. How do you think this makes him feel?
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
Anti-vaxxers have the mentality of 4 year olds. Information they don't like? Throw a tantrum and resort to child-tier name calling, drop a butthurt neg, then leave.
You do the exact same thing. It's funny though, how you call anti-vaxxers mentality challenged while being literally mentally challenged yourself. At least anti-vaxxers are smart enough to question their corrupt governments rather than going along with it like zombies. Especially in your case, where you got a taste of your own liberal medicine, getting locked up in a covid concentration camp and smearing chit on the walls in defiance.
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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps
You do the exact same thing. It's funny though, how you call anti-vaxxers mentality challenged while being literally mentally challenged yourself. At least anti-vaxxers are smart enough to question their corrupt governments rather than going along with it like zombies. Especially in your case, where you got a taste of your own liberal medicine, getting locked up in a covid concentration camp and smearing chit on the walls in defiance.
The intellectual dishonesty behind branding anyone that didn't take the covid "vaccine" as they may have felt the risks of taking an experimental medical concoction put together in less than 1 calendar year (where the manufacturer is completely immune from lawsuits in cases of injury/death) out weigh the benefits as "anti-vaxx" is all they have. They gave into the marketing, the psyop, and all the hysteria behind the greatest scam of the 21st century. So they have to REEEEE their way in arguments, as they have nothing else to go on.

A literal retard on government assistance trying to give advice and "guidance" to individuals on how they should have handled their bodily autonomy is beyond comical.
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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps
You do the exact same thing. It's funny though, how you call anti-vaxxers mentality challenged while being literally mentally challenged yourself. At least anti-vaxxers are smart enough to question their corrupt governments rather than going along with it like zombies. Especially in your case, where you got a taste of your own liberal medicine, getting locked up in a covid concentration camp and smearing chit on the walls in defiance.
That completely destroyed anything he said.

He's too autistic to even understand why though.
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Originally Posted By InPhase
That completely destroyed anything he said.

He's too autistic to even understand why though.
Yup. Like clockwork, he negs me with "bald paedophile face" in the comments, and wants to complain about negs lol. It's truly amusing those are his negs, because the picture and information Anachron discovered about him is that he is balding, fat, autistic and unemployable, and has posted on the forum that he's ok with banging minors. Just like MinisterOfChildLust.

Anything insulting he posts towards other users is quite truly a projection of himself onto others. The saddest part of all of this, and I don't mean this with any offense towards Bodhy, but I honestly think his autism doesn't allow him the capacity of shame to have returned to the misc after what Anachron discovered about him.
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Originally Posted By Irezumi
The issue is, folks like you ride in on your moral high horse and essentially do exactly what you accuse others of...which is acting like a 4 year old. If I were to say anything different than I'm a Trump cultist...if I don't want the Vax then I'm an anti vaxxer with the mental capacity of a child..etc...

It's the whole do as I say, not as I do attitude that really bothers me...it goes both ways. People on the left and right are equally guilty. You should at least make an effort to acknowledge that.
You're free to have the vax or not have the vax. That's entirely your choice and I never supported mandates.


But if you plan on spreading misinformation about vaccination which is not scientifically sound, I will challenge you on it. No one is saying someone is a 4 year old because they debate the virtues of vaccination.

We're saying people are 4 year olds because their only reaction to hearing arguments they don't like is to squeal like an autistic child and throw lame insults around. Temper tantrums are childish no matter what your opinion on vaccination is.

You also notice that posters on here with actual university educations don't throw temper tantrums when people disagree with us. It's something low IQ tradies who didn't go to university tend to do.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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