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post 1699552893 03-22-2024, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted By NYPat
They are.

13% decrease in murder and on and on. Compare that to Trump's last year in office...

https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/ne...3-207164485946
Reducing the ability and scope of police forces, and then claiming lower crime statistics....


Is the same logic as reducing covid testing to reduce covid case count
post 1699553763 03-22-2024, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted By SaltyDog920
The federal levels are exactly where there isn't complete data. RAPEYPat, who I was responding to, referenced a news story stating FBI stats. The FBI stats are EXACTLY where there's incomplete.

For you to read again:
When Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis announced his presidential campaign in May, he proudly told the nation that Florida’s crime rate in 2021 had reached a 50-year low.

But really, DeSantis couldn’t say for sure.

That’s because fewer than 1 in 10 law enforcement agencies in his state had reported their crime statistics to the FBI. In fact, more than 40% of the Sunshine State’s population was unaccounted for in the data used by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement in its 2021 statewide crime report.

In Wichita, Kansas, Democratic Mayor Brandon Whipple claimed in May that violent crime had decreased by half during his term. But Whipple’s source, the FBI’s Crime Data Explorer, missed half the violent crimes recorded by the Wichita Police Department, possibly because the agency couldn’t mesh its system with the FBI’s recently revamped system.

Across the country, law enforcement agencies’ inability — or refusal — to send their annual crime data to the FBI has resulted in a distorted picture of the United States’ crime trends, according to a new Stateline analysis of the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting program participation data.


And more information for you to digest:

The Marshall Project reported that 31 percent of the 18,000 law enforcement agencies across the U.S. failed to report crime data to the FBI’s national database after transitioning to a new data collection system, according to the latest statistics from the FBI. That’s a slight improvement from 2021, when 40 percent of law enforcement agencies didn’t report crime data. Still, it’s a glaring blind spot, especially when that data is missing from some of the largest metro areas dealing with rampant, out-of-control crime.


To estimate national trends, the FBI collects crime reports from thousands of law enforcement agencies across the country. Last year, the FBI—through the Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) program—made significant changes to how local, county, state, tribal, and federal agencies submit their data. Now, agencies can only submit reports through one system—NIBRS—requiring a big administrative shift among police departments and other law enforcement agencies, and substantially more detailed input. As a result, participation plummeted. Of the 18,000 agencies in the country, only half submitted a full year’s worth of data. Only 63 percent submitted any data at all.

And so, as predicted, the 2021 crime data tells us . . . well, not much.




So because you're able to draw conclusions from incredibly limited FBI nationwide data, I'm assuming you're perfectly willing to accept Ron Desantis' comment about FL crime plummeting?

When Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis announced his presidential campaign in May, he proudly told the nation that Florida’s crime rate in 2021 had reached a 50-year low.

But really, DeSantis couldn’t say for sure.
Claiming a 50 year low sounds like empty, self congratulatory political rhetoric to me, doesn't matter if it's Biden or DeSantis saying it.

The rest of the article is filled with flawed logic and hyperbole as is typical with most media sources.

There is reduced participation in reporting statistics while local agencies update their systems, but there was still all of the old data and over 9,000 points of new data in 2021 available to calculate a trend.
post 1699558423 03-22-2024, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Darkius
I have a recorded phone call of a police officer refusing to give a police report after I reported my sister kidnapped. His excuse was that he did not believe my story since I did not want him calling her phone while her abductor was with her.

Many other calls went that way, but I only recorded a few of them. I was very frantic and studdering in the call, but it is obviously the police.

I'll upload it to google drive today and PM you the link. I don't want it public while she is still with him, but you can respond here and tell members if it is true. Lots of police and dispatch reacted the same way to me, many trying to imply I might be crazy rather than help.
They're not going to do a kidnapping report over the phone.....

And didn't this story have so many loopholes, where it didn't make any sense?
post 1699558473 03-22-2024, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20
13% decrease YoY. Still notable higher than in 2019 or the decade prior. As they indirectly said in the video, violence jumped up because of Covid lockdowns. I'd add the George Floyd case caused a lot of murder. The 2020 summer ofBurnLootMurder will not be forgotten. Also, violent crime jumped up again in 2021.

Wuhan virus overreactors and MSM have a lot of blood on their hands.
That's what I mean, they're comparing the numbers to 2020-2021.
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