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NYT: COVID Vaccine Side Effects: 4 Takeaways From Our Investigation
05-04-2024, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Which studies suggest everyone who gets vaccinated gets myocarditis?Please cite the study that shows every single person who gets covid, and not just certain groups, are x7 more likely to give you a more severe form of myocarditis.
Or, is it that the people more at risk of myocarditis (from covid) are also the group(s) who are more likely to be hospitalized, have severe symptoms and/or die from it?
If that is the case, we just need to remind everyone once again: Only those immuno-compromised were facing significant risk of that from covid and that:
- 80% who died of/with covid were obese or grossly obese
- Of those who died of/with covid there were on average 2.8 comorbidities
- The average age of those who died of/with covid was 78 years old
Or, is it that the people more at risk of myocarditis (from covid) are also the group(s) who are more likely to be hospitalized, have severe symptoms and/or die from it?
If that is the case, we just need to remind everyone once again: Only those immuno-compromised were facing significant risk of that from covid and that:
- 80% who died of/with covid were obese or grossly obese
- Of those who died of/with covid there were on average 2.8 comorbidities
- The average age of those who died of/with covid was 78 years old
05-04-2024, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Which sentence of the quote you posted states that implication? But also..it's not a vaccineWhich studies suggest everyone who gets vaccinated gets myocarditis?
05-04-2024, 05:50 PM
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05-04-2024, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
His opener did not state what you implied.His opener.
Yes they are.
Yes they are.
No they are not.
It’s not a “vaccine”, because it meets all the criteria of a genetically engineered product. It contains synthetically produced modified mRNA packaged within lipid nanoparticles that have the ability to transfect our cells.
It’s not a “vaccine”, because it circulates in our body and in our cells without being noticed as foreign – unlike the particles of conventional vaccines.
It’s not a “vaccine”, because in 2021, the purpose of vaccination was revised and its definition changed. According to the new “standard”, “vaccines” do not need to create immunity specifically against a disease, but are only required to elicit an immune response, even if this response is non-specific or adverse.
It’s not a “vaccine”, because upon entry into our cells, the modified mRNA hijacks our cells to force them to produce foreign proteins, the nature of which is partially unpredictable.
It’s not a “vaccine”, because after receiving a mRNA-based injection, we are initially still considered “unvaccinated”.
It will take another two weeks before any medical authorities will consider you as “vaccinated”. As a result, reports on adverse events (including hospitalization and death) that may occur within those first two weeks post-vaccination will simply not be counted, if reported at all. Likewise, it is difficult to argue for any claims for compensation.
It’s not a “vaccine”, because you are intended to receive boosters on a regular basis. These repeated injections lead to the non-stop production of the antigen, possibly several antigens. This differs from a natural infection, in which the antigen invades our body, which inevitably weakens our immune system
05-04-2024, 06:09 PM
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05-04-2024, 06:19 PM
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05-04-2024, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
It's not a vaccine, see post #34 as to whyVaccines, including covid vaccines, induce/confer adaptive/acquired immunity.
05-04-2024, 07:02 PM
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05-04-2024, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted By WCline⏩
Is that why you flat out refused to get the first and second boosters, going against the CDC's recommendations, putting your entire community at greater risk?I wonder if the researchers from Hong Kong also found that getting covid can reactivate shingles. Strange that wasn't mentioned. Strange how they ignored that covid itself is like 7x more likely to give you a more severe form of myocarditis. Strange how priming your immune system is seen as "ZERO" benefit. Just overall very strange and very mentally ill.

05-04-2024, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
And the covid vaccines, as per stipulations you introduced, are not what would be considered "successful" vaccines.Vaccines, including covid vaccines, induce/confer adaptive/acquired immunity.
Or "effective" I forgot which one it was.

05-04-2024, 07:27 PM
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05-04-2024, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted By WCline⏩
Srs you think they’re letting this get out . Of course this will be swept under the rug. I only know because it happened locallyLink the story.
Back with my Fam
05-04-2024, 07:29 PM
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Reminder: The intel agencies that control these MSM fake news outlets are slowly flipping the script so they can hammer Trump for pushing the vaccines once the election gets going....
That will be their last hail mary to stop him after their kangaroo court show trials fail.
That will be their last hail mary to stop him after their kangaroo court show trials fail.
Joe Biden (and family) are incestuous paed's..
Epstein dint kill himself....
Mcafee didnt uninstall himself.....
WEF/GLOBLISM is a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION......
05-04-2024, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
the immune system does the same..it doesn't make it a vaccine lolSee post #35 as to why they are
05-04-2024, 07:45 PM
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05-04-2024, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
that does not make it a vaccine though, therefore your definition of a vaccine is muteLiterally what makes vaccines vaccines.
05-04-2024, 08:26 PM
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05-04-2024, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted By WCline⏩
That's why you couldn't prove anything wrong with what I posted. Unlike you, I actually back up my statements.Yes.
He's hopeless, and willfully ignorant and malign.
He's hopeless, and willfully ignorant and malign.
But let's get this straight..you think your immune system is a vaccine?
Just lol
05-04-2024, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul
I have done this dance with you too many times. It's a waste to debate crackpots.That's why you couldn't prove anything wrong with what I posted. Unlike you, I actually back up my statements.
But let's get this straight..you think your immune system is a vaccine?
Just lol
But let's get this straight..you think your immune system is a vaccine?
Just lol
05-04-2024, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted By WCline⏩
Typical, always runs when asked to support his claims.I have done this dance with you too many times. It's a waste to debate crackpots.
Okay, you may leave now.
05-04-2024, 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
says the guy that believes it is an "mRNA vaccine"Based
05-04-2024, 09:09 PM
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05-04-2024, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
I'm sure you doI believe in the existence of more than one covid vaccine.
05-04-2024, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Direct quote where I stated everyone who gets the vaccine gets myocarditis. You won't, because you can't, because you are lying.His opener.
Yes they are.
Yes they are.
When someone has to lie in a debate, they lose by default.
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
- Arthur Schopenhauer
05-05-2024, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
J.L.C. has been caught lying so many times in the past, that's his modus operandi.Direct quote where I stated everyone who gets the vaccine gets myocarditis. You won't, because you can't, because you are lying.
When someone has to lie in a debate, they lose by default.
When someone has to lie in a debate, they lose by default.
He is known for fudging numbers by over two decimal points in favour of the narrative he supports.

05-05-2024, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Same place Wincel said everyone who gets covid gets 7x more severe myocarditis.Direct quote where I stated everyone who gets the vaccine gets myocarditis. You won't, because you can't, because you are lying.
When someone has to lie in a debate, they lose by default.
When someone has to lie in a debate, they lose by default.
Maybe that was just a translation?

05-05-2024, 06:32 AM
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Here JUSA, I googled the 7x thing.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...22.951314/full
This wasn't the only one. There have been several reviews comparing risk from the vaccine to risk from the viral infection (if vaccinated and then also if unvaccinated).
At this point, is it a huge deal for you to get your shot? Not really. You've already had covid multiple times, right? But it would have been wise to get one. It would be a slight benefit. You can ask your doctor about it if you have concerns.
I had my latest booster a few months ago along with another flu shot.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...22.951314/full
This wasn't the only one. There have been several reviews comparing risk from the vaccine to risk from the viral infection (if vaccinated and then also if unvaccinated).
At this point, is it a huge deal for you to get your shot? Not really. You've already had covid multiple times, right? But it would have been wise to get one. It would be a slight benefit. You can ask your doctor about it if you have concerns.
I had my latest booster a few months ago along with another flu shot.
05-05-2024, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted By WCline⏩
All science is fake!Here JUSA, I googled the 7x thing.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...22.951314/full
This wasn't the only one. There have been several reviews comparing risk from the vaccine to risk from the viral infection (if vaccinated and then also if unvaccinated).
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles...22.951314/full
This wasn't the only one. There have been several reviews comparing risk from the vaccine to risk from the viral infection (if vaccinated and then also if unvaccinated).
Trust me, bro
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