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post 1704245901 07-27-2024, 11:28 PM
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Haley and Kamala are done. You guys can cope all you want, but there is no better candidate than Vivek to carry America first movement after Trump. Although Vance is shoe-in for 2028.
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I watched Vance at the Minnesota rally tonight. Dude is great, seems much less forced than Mike Pence stumping for Trump. He is going to deliver in the Mid-west on election night, book it. Trump makes another great pick and Trump bros stay winning.

This is another made up narrative with no relation to reality.
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Originally Posted By bpatel82⏩
Haley and Kamala are done. You guys can cope all you want, but there is no better candidate than Vivek to carry America first movement after Trump. Although Vance is shoe-in for 2028.
You're the one coping after the recent Kamala polls came out. Trump is supposed to be leading double digits now - Democrats are running horrible candidates who destroyed the economy and flooded the country with illegals, yet they're tied 50:50 with Trump because he's such a hated candidate and his VP pick only amplified his weakest attributes.

If Trump loses this election then your "America First" fairy tale is over, the Republican party can't take any more beating after they lost 2018, 2020, 2022, and now what can possibly be 2024. Trump has been a cancer for the party ever since he won that one time. GOP needs donors and no one is going to fund the sinking ship after another failure.

Let me say that again - Republican candidate should be leading +10 now, not tied.
Originally Posted By benedetto27⏩
I watched Vance at the Minnesota rally tonight. Dude is great, seems much less forced than Mike Pence stumping for Trump. He is going to deliver in the Mid-west on election night, book it. Trump makes another great pick and Trump bros stay winning.

This is another made up narrative with no relation to reality.
Doesn't matter. He's a good speaker but he can only energize the MAGA supportersWHO ALREADY SUPPORT TRUMP. Read my lips - no new voters.

Guy alienates all women, he took a big dump on them with his extreme abortion stance and calling them "miserable cat ladies". ABC, CNN, and NBC are happily running that sh*t all day now, thank you very much. Trump desperately needs to fix his support among women and he only made it worse now ffs.

Wait for Kamala to pick a fuking Shapiro to secure PA, and have all women and blacks carry her in Michigan and Wisconsin. JD Vance doesn't attract a single minority and alienates more women than Trump did without him. Congratulations, proceed to whine about mail ballots.
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Originally Posted By volleys⏩
We still think Trump isn't marching to the same tune that everyone else is? Lol.
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post 1704247641 07-28-2024, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted By PeteGr⏩
Yeah, Vance is a rubbish pick. He doesn't really attract any new voters, and he comes across as a bit weird.

Hopefully Trump wins regardless.
Vance grew up in a rustbelt midwest state in a poverty stricken, abusive family. Now look where he is. He's a perfect candidate to appeal to other rustbelt swing states like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. Just don't get how some of you are ready to throw yourself off a roof over him as a pick. Regardless, people ultimately vote for the President, not the Vice President
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
I'm fairly neutral on Vance but the entire narrative that he's some terrible pick seems media driven and reactionary from people who just don't get it. He's a good communicator from the Midwest and he's trying to appeal to the Midwest voters which is what Trump needs.

Ultimately, VP picks aren't going to decide elections. The media and political class over emphasize the importance of a VP pick. While Palin was bad in 2008 John McCain had zero shot against Barack Obama irrespective of who he picked. Obama pick Biden who previously was considered to be one of the dumbest men in the Senate. And then to one up him Biden picked Harris who is easily one of the most idiotic people ever to serve in US government. Trump winning or losing will have little to do with Vance
He's objectively a bad pick politically because he adds zero to the ticket. Normally, you pick a VP with slightly different views to consolidate support. For example, the original choice of Pence made sense since Trump didn't really fit the image of the old conservative with his MAGA sht. So Pence was a good pick to get the evangelicals. Vance is basically LARPing as Trump. He adds nothing. Tulsi would have been a much better choice.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Conservatives - "We shouldnt play racial virtual signaling game!"
Vance is the GOP version of virtue signaling. White, conservative, from a Republican state, and caters to rural evangelicals with the "family values" shtick. He's a younger more outspoken version of Mike Pence. He will turn on Trumpy without catching his breath if the political headwinds go in the other direction just like Pence did.


What, you think he was chosen for his immense political experience and appeal to moderates? He is the worst polling VP pick in decades, even Sarah Palin was more appealing after the 2008 RNC. LMAO

Originally Posted By bpatel82⏩
Haley and Kamala are done. You guys can cope all you want, but there is no better candidate than Vivek to carry America first movement after Trump. Although Vance is shoe-in for 2028.
Yeah right, Patel.
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Originally Posted By bpatel82⏩
Haley and Kamala are done. You guys can cope all you want, but there is no better candidate than Vivek to carry America first movement after Trump. Although Vance is shoe-in for 2028.
RIP GOP if Vance is the nom

Ideally I'd want someone like Hawley
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Stupid trumpkins are just now realizing that Oj picks the absolute worst people and criminals???? We already saw who he surrounded himself with during his term, why would it be any different now? LoL
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Originally Posted By Fishman15⏩
Vance grew up in a rustbelt midwest state in a poverty stricken, abusive family. Now look where he is. He's a perfect candidate to appeal to other rustbelt swing states like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. Just don't get how some of you are ready to throw yourself off a roof over him as a pick. Regardless, people ultimately vote for the President, not the Vice President
He's got that chad energy that terrifies demcucks and repcucks alike
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post 1704254341 07-28-2024, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
He's got that chad energy that terrifies demcucks and repcucks alike
chad energy or fuk yo couch energy
post 1704257841 07-28-2024, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted By 4skinfermenter⏩
chad energy or fuk yo couch energy
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Originally Posted By 4skinfermenter⏩
He's objectively a bad pick politically because he adds zero to the ticket. Normally, you pick a VP with slightly different views to consolidate support. For example, the original choice of Pence made sense since Trump didn't really fit the image of the old conservative with his MAGA sht. So Pence was a good pick to get the evangelicals. Vance is basically LARPing as Trump. He adds nothing.Tulsi would have been a much better choice.




















































































































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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Nah, vance is legit
He seems like a legit neocon. Good on most things except warmongering and Israel, of course.
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Originally Posted By 128⏩
Admit you just want Democrats to win so you can complain more
Hes a marxist pretending to be some alt right nazi, same as OGfromO6 poster, although he starting to come clean about it and is outright supporting Kamala.

They dont understand Trump/Maga voters so their whole schtick has been(what ever Trump does) yeah but...hes not racist enough...as some type of gotcha. lol fuken ratards
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
He seems like a legit neocon. Good on most things except warmongering and Israel, of course.
War mongering? Who has been more anti ukraine support than Vance? Theres a reason bolton and rove and all those scumbags hate him
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
War mongering? Who has been more anti ukraine support than Vance? Theres a reason bolton and rove and all those scumbags hate him
I would include Ukraine as the part he's good on, but then look what he has to say about Iran and Gaza:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trumps...-counter-iran/

Classic neocon while covering a couple of the current-day populist bases since he's now MAGA.
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Originally Posted By TrueTruth⏩
You're the one coping after the recent Kamala polls came out.Trump is supposed to be leading double digits now- Democrats are running horrible candidates who destroyed the economy and flooded the country with illegals, yet they're tied 50:50 with Trump because he's such a hated candidate and his VP pick only amplified his weakest attributes.

If Trump loses this election then your "America First" fairy tale is over, the Republican party can't take any more beating after they lost 2018, 2020, 2022, and now what can possibly be 2024. Trump has been a cancer for the party ever since he won that one time. GOP needs donors and no one is going to fund the sinking ship after another failure.

Let me say that again - Republican candidate should be leading +10 now, not tied.




Doesn't matter. He's a good speaker but he can only energize the MAGA supportersWHO ALREADY SUPPORT TRUMP. Read my lips - no new voters.

Guy alienates all women, he took a big dump on them with his extreme abortion stance and calling them "miserable cat ladies". ABC, CNN, and NBC are happily running that sh*t all day now, thank you very much. Trump desperately needs to fix his support among women and he only made it worse now ffs.

Wait for Kamala to pick a fuking Shapiro to secure PA, and have all women and blacks carry her in Michigan and Wisconsin.JD Vance doesn't attract a single minorityand alienates more women than Trump did without him. Congratulations, proceed to whine about mail ballots.
BOLD: Thats sounds like someone who doesnt understand the demographic shift of the electorate. There is no (R) ten point lead nationally anymore. Those days are long gone. Decades of insourcing voters via mass migration from mostly the 3rd world has replaced the white vote(85% of the electorate in the 80s to 67% in 2020)

Why does that matter?? Because only whites en masse vote (R). Every other group, minus cubans, are hard left voters. Thats fact.

Take TX for example, from 2010-2020 they added 4 million people to their population...only 200K of those were white, so 95% of TX population growth was non white(hard left voters) which means what??? Eventually a solid blue State.

For example, if 2020 had the same electoral racial demos as 1988....Trump beats Biden by nearly 10 million votes instead of losing by 7 million...and mass immigration is the reason why.
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
Hes a marxist pretending to be some alt right nazi, same as OGfromO6 poster, although he starting to come clean about it and is outright supporting Kamala.

They dont understand Trump/Maga voters so their whole schtick has been(what ever Trump does) yeah but...hes not racist enough...as some type of gotcha. lol fuken ratards
Don't understand MAGA voters? What? I understand y'all perfectly

So desperate for a way to "fight back" against the leftist onslaught that you clowns put your faith in the first person that came up and appeared to talk straight and played upon some right wing hot topics. But you all have been so desperate for this that you have allowed your emotions to cloud all logic and ignored the huge red flags that come with Trump. Since 2016 to now and you STILL haven't realized that Trump is no different than any other republican/democrat? It's called controlled opposition. You fools fell for it hard.

But go back to begging for votes and pretending as if Trump is some hero that will save America. It's hilarious how you cucks talk about all these amazing things Trump will do, when Trump has never entertained a single one of em. You people literally have made up a fantasy about what Trump is going to do, while he has not done or endorsed a single one of your ideas that you falsely attribute to him.

Trump still hasn't addressed the deep state hit the other week, yet his followers are convinced that they tried to take him out. How pathetic of you all. Shouldn't your leader come out and say if the government is trying to take him out? But you fools can't acknowledge this because it would bring you to the conclusion that Trump himself is in on the grift.

Trump will not stop crime
Trump will not stop immigration
Trump will not stop the degeneracy
Trump will not stop bowing to Israel

What exactly is the difference between Trump and any other "establishment" republican ?

What has Trump done to take on the deep state?
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
Don't understand MAGA voters? What? I understand y'all perfectly

So desperate for a way to "fight back" against the leftist onslaught that you clowns put your faith in the first person that came up and appeared to talk straight and played upon some right wing hot topics. But you all have been so desperate for this that you have allowed your emotions to cloud all logic and ignored the huge red flags that come with Trump. Since 2016 to now and you STILL haven't realized that Trump is no different than any other republican/democrat? It's called controlled opposition. You fools fell for it hard.

But go back to begging for votes and pretending as if Trump is some hero that will save America. It's hilarious how you cucks talk about all these amazing things Trump will do, when Trump has never entertained a single one of em. You people literally have made up a fantasy about what Trump is going to do, while he has not done or endorsed a single one of your ideas that you falsely attribute to him.

Trump still hasn't addressed the deep state hit the other week, yet his followers are convinced that they tried to take him out. How pathetic of you all. Shouldn't your leader come out and say if the government is trying to take him out? But you fools can't acknowledge this because it would bring you to the conclusion that Trump himself is in on the grift.

Trump will not stop crime
Trump will not stop immigration
Trump will not stop the degeneracy
Trump will not stop bowing to Israel

What exactly is the difference between Trump and any other "establishment" republican ?

What has Trump done to take on the deep state?
Did not read lol

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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
I would include Ukraine as the part he's good on, but then look what he has to say about Iran and Gaza:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/trumps...-counter-iran/

Classic neocon while covering a couple of the current-day populist bases since he's now MAGA.
You're never gonna find a candidate you agree with on 100% of all things with unless you become a sychophant. By that standard, nothing will ever make you happy.
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