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08-16-2024, 08:32 AM
#31
Originally Posted By miscHodor⏩
I don't think you understand how it works. The government is going to TAX you to throw out that more money. It's not just throwing out a blanket amount of money from thin air.
LOL surely the government throwing out more money will solve the problem. Just even more proof that democrats pander to the least intelligent among us.
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08-16-2024, 08:34 AM
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Surely giving people $25k to buy a house won't cause the price of housing to increase. Right?
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08-16-2024, 08:34 AM
#33
Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
Why isn't anyone picking up on this? THIS is all you need to know.
And just like that, home prices go up $25k
Every time the government adds money to something, that something goes up by the amount they inject.
Educate yourself and be entertained at the same time:
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08-16-2024, 08:36 AM
#34
Originally Posted By jimbone21⏩
This is the only logical argument ITT.
Why isn't anyone picking up on this? THIS is all you need to know.
Every time the government adds money to something, that something goes up by the amount they inject.
Educate yourself and be entertained at the same time:
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...+in+government
Every time the government adds money to something, that something goes up by the amount they inject.
Educate yourself and be entertained at the same time:
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...+in+government
Feelings based responses:
But muh hard work
But muh discipline
But muh savings
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08-16-2024, 08:36 AM
#35
Originally Posted By Visel⏩
How does this always happen?
I finish paying off my student debt, then suddenly "student loan forgiveness" is a multi year talking point.
Now I put 20% down on a new construction, then suddenly "$25k down payment assistance" is gonna be a multi year talking point (if she gets elected / Trump wins but likes the idea too?).
I'm self made, no family help, yet everyone who is irresponsible gets the good chit from the government.
I finish paying off my student debt, then suddenly "student loan forgiveness" is a multi year talking point.
Now I put 20% down on a new construction, then suddenly "$25k down payment assistance" is gonna be a multi year talking point (if she gets elected / Trump wins but likes the idea too?).
I'm self made, no family help, yet everyone who is irresponsible gets the good chit from the government.
Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
I'm with you dude
.
I sacrificed a f*cking sh*t ton in my early 20s and 30s for the sake of investing in my future.
Everyone else that didn't do that in the world is my competition. You are my competition. And I am yours. And all the lazy f*cks who didn't invest in their future are being elevated to our level without putting the work on the front end.
It's f*cking bullsh*t.
"They need help"
Of course they need help! They're f*cking losers! Let them lose!
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I sacrificed a f*cking sh*t ton in my early 20s and 30s for the sake of investing in my future.
Everyone else that didn't do that in the world is my competition. You are my competition. And I am yours. And all the lazy f*cks who didn't invest in their future are being elevated to our level without putting the work on the front end.
It's f*cking bullsh*t.
"They need help"
Of course they need help! They're f*cking losers! Let them lose!
I don't know why you two are so triggered by this. The losers will all still remain losers in the end. You think the measly student loan forgiveness sh*t or downpayment assistance sh*t here sets people up? There are no free passes in this world. It's all just a marketing scam to grab votes. How stupid do you have to be to whine that you "missed out" on these charades.
08-16-2024, 08:37 AM
#36
In b4 real estate prices for median homes increases exactly $25k as a result.
Spoiler alert; you die at the end.
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08-16-2024, 08:38 AM
#37
Originally Posted By Cudabrah⏩
I'm all for it. My home is going to skyrocket if they actually do this. Reality is it will get blocked because all this really is is more mind games to grab some votes from retards.
Surely giving people $25k to buy a house won't cause the price of housing to increase. Right?
08-16-2024, 08:39 AM
#38
Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
You're an idiot.
NOTHING IN LIFE IS FAIR. IT WILL NEVER BE FAIR.
That's great you worked hard and did it on your own, that shouldn't take away from others who are tax paying citizens. The fact that you want your own people to suffer is just pathetic.
That's great you worked hard and did it on your own, that shouldn't take away from others who are tax paying citizens. The fact that you want your own people to suffer is just pathetic.
Say to them "nothing in life is fair" instead.
Say to them "he suffered, and now that you want his suffering to have been in vain is pathetic"
Say it to THEM!
Life IS fair until you actively make it not fair.
Life is extremely fair and balanced.
Save up money? Have money later. That's fair.
Save up money? You steal my money. "Life's not fair" mother f*cker it was fair until you who are saying it isn't fair are making it unfair.
As if I'm supposed to just accept this. I am fighting for fairness. You are fighting against fairness. You are the enemy. You are the aggressor. You are the problem
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08-16-2024, 08:39 AM
#39
Originally Posted By TryingMen⏩
Oh OK good point.
I don't know why you two are so triggered by this. The losers will all still remain losers in the end. You think the measly student loan forgiveness sh*t or downpayment assistance sh*t here sets people up? There are no free passes in this world. It's all just a marketing scam to grab votes. How stupid do you have to be to whine that you "missed out" on these charades.
Do whatever you want all the time with no resistance.
F*cking idiot.
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08-16-2024, 08:40 AM
#40
Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
You're an idiot.
Say to them "nothing in life is fair" instead.
Say to them "he suffered, and now that you want his suffering to have been in vain is pathetic"
Say it to THEM!
Life IS fair until you actively make it not fair.
Life is extremely fair and balanced.
Save up money? Have money later. That's fair.
Save up money? You steal my money. "Life's not fair" mother f*cker it was fair until you who are saying it isn't fair are making it unfair.
As if I'm supposed to just accept this. I am fighting for fairness. You are fighting against fairness. You are the enemy. You are the aggressor. You are the problem
Say to them "nothing in life is fair" instead.
Say to them "he suffered, and now that you want his suffering to have been in vain is pathetic"
Say it to THEM!
Life IS fair until you actively make it not fair.
Life is extremely fair and balanced.
Save up money? Have money later. That's fair.
Save up money? You steal my money. "Life's not fair" mother f*cker it was fair until you who are saying it isn't fair are making it unfair.
As if I'm supposed to just accept this. I am fighting for fairness. You are fighting against fairness. You are the enemy. You are the aggressor. You are the problem
Another feeling based response.
"waah. waaah. I saved for 10 years. It's not fair they get a cheap house. waaaaaah waaaaaah."
Can you please use logic? I don't want to waste my time catering to your feelings.
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08-16-2024, 08:42 AM
#41
Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
who pays for the "help"
I see nothing wrong with this. Working American families deserve a home.
What is rage inducing? Are you against Americans receiving help?
If you expect an even playing field, nothing in life is 'fair'. You should be happy for people receiving help
What is rage inducing? Are you against Americans receiving help?
If you expect an even playing field, nothing in life is 'fair'. You should be happy for people receiving help
Edit: nevermind, don't answer, I just realized who you are and I've read your posts, youre a low iq rentard, and a libtard
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08-16-2024, 08:42 AM
#42
Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
Oh OK good point.
Do whatever you want all the time with no resistance.
F*cking idiot.
Do whatever you want all the time with no resistance.
F*cking idiot.
Yeah homeless bums and migrants are much, much better.
Middle Class America are just lazy idiots.
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08-16-2024, 08:44 AM
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I don't see how the first generation of home buyers bit would work.
Rich parents always rented: you get help as 1st gen.
Poor parents managed to "buy" a home in 2006 and then lost it in 2007 (happened to a lot of people): no help for you.
Rich parents always rented: you get help as 1st gen.
Poor parents managed to "buy" a home in 2006 and then lost it in 2007 (happened to a lot of people): no help for you.
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08-16-2024, 08:44 AM
#44
Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
We the people do.
who pays for the "help"
Why shouldn't Americans help other Americans? If that means less homeless and more tax contributors, then I'm all for it.
More poors = More taxes.
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08-16-2024, 08:47 AM
#45
Originally Posted By Condo41⏩
As a highly intelligent, attractive white male this is exactly what I do.
Do whatever you want all the time with no resistance.
08-16-2024, 08:50 AM
#46
as a HomeOWNER who's house will be PAID-IN-FULL next year I have NO PROBLEM with this. Much rather to see my TAX contribution go to programs like Housing 4 Americans, HealthCARE 4 Americans, and Education 4 Americans than to be paying only HealthCare and Cancun Holidays for RepubliCON Leaders and/or Foreign WAR Profiteering
08-16-2024, 08:51 AM
#47
Look what all the freebies did to San Francisco, her doing
Look at what all the freebies have done to inflation, her doing
If you have an ounce of brains ,you wouldn't vote for this liberal pos
Look at what all the freebies have done to inflation, her doing
If you have an ounce of brains ,you wouldn't vote for this liberal pos
08-16-2024, 08:52 AM
#48
Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
Helping lower and middle class American families by building more homes is bad?
Look what all the freebies did to San Francisco, her doing
Look at what all the freebies have done to inflation, her doing
If you have an ounce of brains ,you wouldn't vote for this liberal pos
Look at what all the freebies have done to inflation, her doing
If you have an ounce of brains ,you wouldn't vote for this liberal pos
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08-16-2024, 08:55 AM
#49
Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Don't kid yourself
Helping lower and middle class American families by building more homes is bad?
She's helping the scum she let in for votes
If her policies were good ,san Fran wouldn't be a sewer
Are you retarded or blind ?
08-16-2024, 08:56 AM
#50
So far, Harris has proposed
-helicopter money for homebuyers
-tax cuts while govt spending is already 30% higher than income.
-price controls on food
End well this will not…
-helicopter money for homebuyers
-tax cuts while govt spending is already 30% higher than income.
-price controls on food
End well this will not…
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08-16-2024, 08:56 AM
#51
Originally Posted By wasp9166⏩
Why is building more homes bad?
Don't kid yourself
She's helping the scum she let in for votes
If her policies were good ,san Fran wouldn't be a sewer
Are you retarded or blind ?
She's helping the scum she let in for votes
If her policies were good ,san Fran wouldn't be a sewer
Are you retarded or blind ?
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08-16-2024, 08:56 AM
#52
Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
I see nothing wrong with this. Working American families deserve a home.
What is rage inducing? Are you against Americans receiving help?
If you expect an even playing field, nothing in life is 'fair'. You should be happy for people receiving help
What is rage inducing? Are you against Americans receiving help?
If you expect an even playing field, nothing in life is 'fair'. You should be happy for people receiving help
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08-16-2024, 08:57 AM
#53
Originally Posted By FA*******⏩
What is Trump offering? If he's the better alternative, how so?
So far, Harris has proposed
-helicopter money for homebuyers
-tax cuts
-price controls on food
End well this will not…
-helicopter money for homebuyers
-tax cuts
-price controls on food
End well this will not…
I'm really open ears to both sides of the discussion. So far all responses have been 'feelings' based.
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08-16-2024, 08:58 AM
#54
Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
-No helicopter money
What is Trump offering? If he's the better alternative, how so?
-No price controls on food.
I still think that phucker wants tax cuts, which is just wrong-headed in this budgetary environment, but he's already points ahead vs Kamala.
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08-16-2024, 08:58 AM
#55
Originally Posted By OGfrom06⏩
agree! ….and REPed
Wall Street speculation on people's homes is just aint right.
Must be stopped.
ded fkn srs.
Must be stopped.
ded fkn srs.
08-16-2024, 08:59 AM
#56
Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
You're just simply a retard that looks at the easiest solution: take from others to give to others. There's plenty of options (like what I posted in post 7) to keep college costs down for people. As far as housing, there's plenty of solutions rather than just taking a lump sum from tax paying citizens.
You're making zero logical sense right now. Your responses are pure emotion and assumptions about people you do not know. That mentality is a very big part of what's wrong with this country.
Life is not fair, life has never been fair.
Some people are rich without having to lift a finger. Some people stay poor despite working 11 hour warehouse shifts. That's great you worked hard and did it all on your own, but in grand scheme, that doesn't mean look down on others for receiving help. I'm for the betterment of this country. Tax paying individuals and families deserve the right to have the basic necessities. I'd much rather American citizens than to have homeless bums and migrants in my neighborhoods.
Life is not fair, life has never been fair.
Some people are rich without having to lift a finger. Some people stay poor despite working 11 hour warehouse shifts. That's great you worked hard and did it all on your own, but in grand scheme, that doesn't mean look down on others for receiving help. I'm for the betterment of this country. Tax paying individuals and families deserve the right to have the basic necessities. I'd much rather American citizens than to have homeless bums and migrants in my neighborhoods.
First, COMPLETELY stop any non citizen from owning residential property. This includes foreign investment firms and foreign non citizen individuals that currently are allowed to purchase residential property.
(the following will make a ton of righties mad) but bar any domestic investment firms from owning single family homes. Single family homes should not be for profit. Let them do what they want with multiple unit condos etc. This would get some firms out of the single family home and into the multiple housing arena which would have the direct benefit of creating more affordable housing units.
Increase the capital gains period from 2 years to 5 years (except in the scenarios of career relocation and health deterioration). This would curb a significant amount of flippers.
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08-16-2024, 09:01 AM
#57
Originally Posted By theraskal⏩
That 25k would be better served going to Zelensky or BIBI
as a HomeOWNER who's house will be PAID-IN-FULL next year I have NO PROBLEM with this. Much rather to see my TAX contribution go to programs like Housing 4 Americans, HealthCARE 4 Americans, and Education 4 Americans than to be paying only HealthCare and Cancun Holidays for RepubliCON Leaders and/or Foreign WAR Profiteering
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08-16-2024, 09:03 AM
#58
Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
Then grandfather the people in that paid for their own homes and college. Don't require them to pay for others since they didn't get handouts and already paid their way. Then, you'll just have a bunch of perpetual lefties passing money between each other while not solving anything.
We the people do.
Why shouldn't Americans help other Americans? If that means less homeless and more tax contributors, then I'm all for it.
More poors = More taxes.
Why shouldn't Americans help other Americans? If that means less homeless and more tax contributors, then I'm all for it.
More poors = More taxes.
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08-16-2024, 09:05 AM
#59
Originally Posted By SaltyDog920⏩
The solution isn't exactly take from others, give to others. Building more homes doesn't do that.
You're just simply a retard that looks at the easiest solution: take from others to give to others. There's plenty of options (like what I posted in post 7) to keep college costs down for people. As far as housing, there's plenty of solutions rather than just taking a lump sum from tax paying citizens.
First, COMPLETELY stop any non citizen from owning residential property. This includes foreign investment firms and foreign non citizen individuals that currently are allowed to purchase residential property.
(the following will make a ton of righties mad) but bar any domestic investment firms from owning single family homes. Single family homes should not be for profit. Let them do what they want with multiple unit condos etc. This would get some firms out of the single family home and into the multiple housing arena which would have the direct benefit of creating more affordable housing units.
Increase the capital gains period from 2 years to 5 years (except in the scenarios of career relocation and health deterioration). This would curb a significant amount of flippers.
First, COMPLETELY stop any non citizen from owning residential property. This includes foreign investment firms and foreign non citizen individuals that currently are allowed to purchase residential property.
(the following will make a ton of righties mad) but bar any domestic investment firms from owning single family homes. Single family homes should not be for profit. Let them do what they want with multiple unit condos etc. This would get some firms out of the single family home and into the multiple housing arena which would have the direct benefit of creating more affordable housing units.
Increase the capital gains period from 2 years to 5 years (except in the scenarios of career relocation and health deterioration). This would curb a significant amount of flippers.
But keeping families from being dirt poor e.a. rentcels, puts less strain on the system. If homes were more affordable, do you think we'd be having this conversation? Do you think a $25k fund from tax payers would be needed?
But alas, we're at this point and something needs to be done, or else more strain on tax payers.
Your other points I 100% agree with and I've known for the longest firms like Black Rock were buying up single family homes.
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08-16-2024, 09:06 AM
#60
Originally Posted By OliverHomeless⏩
Weird
And just like that, home prices go up $25k
You said the housing market was going to burn down
Guess you have no idea what you’re talking about
Just FYI, if people who previously could not afford to enter the market are getting an opportunity to get a $25k down payment, this causes prices rises much greater than $25k
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