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08-19-2024, 10:46 AM
#31
Originally Posted By Sgt T-Man⏩
Nope lol leave your job and then make your own opportunity.
Better yourself, leave your job find another job that has growth opportunities.
You got a lot of "conservative" men on here who claim to be independent but are they?
If you rely on the government, a man or the health of an industry to call yourself independent are you really just fooling yourself? Is it you providing for your family or is it your boss and environment? How useful are you really to anyone if you are forced to be independent?
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08-19-2024, 10:55 AM
#32
While OP is true, if you go back long enough, eventually some guy made or started making money and it compounded through generations.
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08-19-2024, 10:57 AM
#33
Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
i'll agree with this but most likely pre 1960's.
While OP is true, if you go back long enough, eventually some guy made or started making money and it compounded through generations.
08-19-2024, 11:07 AM
#34
Originally Posted By orangetide⏩
When you put it that way, it makes me feel like my family lineage is nothing but losers LOL. There's a couple of millionaire grandparents but they are giving their money to charities and churches, a big F you to their descendants (AKA me).
While OP is true, if you go back long enough, eventually some guy made or started making money and it compounded through generations.
08-19-2024, 11:17 AM
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don't forget, rich familiews are OLD money. meaning they have billions in real estate all over the us/canada. Which new immigrants and zoomers can't do, they can't even buy a house - let alone own 10 buildings in NYC
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08-19-2024, 11:22 AM
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The trend I see is that the best people tend to come from upper middle class type families, enough resources to provide all the benefits but not raised in the lap of luxury or handed so much that they lose the hunger and don’t need to do anything — that’s where you end up with the Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk type people.
08-19-2024, 12:22 PM
#37
Originally Posted By 8pieces⏩
Youre a moron, man. I'm not even trying to be offensive, you just have zero grasp on the world around you.
I never responded because I just felt pity for you. This is clearly a place (the misc) that is your only social outlet and I'm not trying to drive anyone to do crazy chit.
Regarding your request to answer, ok
Originally Posted By 8pieces⏩
You are clearly one-sided on the issue, I'm not very surprised you cant see that. I stopped reading pretty much here, you dont even know that we gave almost a quarter billion(yes, billion) to aid Palestinians this year alone. Even if 2020 it was something around 600 million..
please find one quote in all my posts where i'm rooting for one side. I care about one country and that's the US. Very selective language and coping that palestian gets nearly .00001% that israel gets from the us.
You legitimately are just emotional about the topic, you dont like jews and use it as a reason as to why youre unsuccessful.. That's fine, there are actually lots of grimy jews(mostly orthodox IMO) but youre a combination of homicidal, emotional and unintelligent at the same time, which is… not great.
There ya go.
edit: Btw, I'm a first generation American and my parents came here with nothing and were given nothing. My father worked his ass off and even overcame a language barrier in an engineering field. He instilled education, work ethic and having a backbone. See the difference between people like you and myself?
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08-19-2024, 01:11 PM
#38
I'd say that it's over 90%, but then I take away a very different lesson from this: most people are average.
Most people, of whatever socioeconomic bracket, stay in that bracket, or move up or down by one place at most.
Only a small minority of people have the combination of drive and ability to drastically change their circumstances.
The problem is that average people expect an exceptional outcome. If you don't have an exceptional start in life, but you want to have an exceptional outcome, you need to be exceptional.
Most people, of whatever socioeconomic bracket, stay in that bracket, or move up or down by one place at most.
Only a small minority of people have the combination of drive and ability to drastically change their circumstances.
The problem is that average people expect an exceptional outcome. If you don't have an exceptional start in life, but you want to have an exceptional outcome, you need to be exceptional.
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08-19-2024, 02:43 PM
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Dan, Cash me outside girl, and the hawk tuah girl, as well as others simply won the Social Media Lottery where they were smart enough to capitalize on a punch line which went viral but it's not likely, it's short lived, and usually leads to nowhere. Dan tried to play himself off as a bit bigger of a big shot than he really was and it backfired.
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08-19-2024, 02:44 PM
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True, you really gotta work hard and have a bit of luck to make it if you aren't born rich
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08-19-2024, 02:46 PM
#41
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I'm absolutely jealous of trust fund babies
OP sounds jealous that there's responsible parents out there, who raised their kids right. Who planned for their future.
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08-19-2024, 03:09 PM
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Cope
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08-19-2024, 06:27 PM
#43
Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
Cope
Pretty sure you’re the biggest trust fund kid on the misc. you don’t work inherited daddy’s real estate
08-19-2024, 06:29 PM
#44
Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
Why don’t you want to say how much israel gets and why it’s been number 1 since 1948??? Again I want both israel and Palestine to get ZERO in aid. Your copium
Youre a moron, man. I'm not even trying to be offensive, you just have zero grasp on the world around you.
I never responded because I just felt pity for you. This is clearly a place (the misc) that is your only social outlet and I'm not trying to drive anyone to do crazy chit.
Regarding your request to answer, ok
You are clearly one-sided on the issue, I'm not very surprised you cant see that. I stopped reading pretty much here, you dont even know that we gave almost a quarter billion(yes, billion) to aid Palestinians this year alone. Even if 2020 it was something around 600 million..
You legitimately are just emotional about the topic, you dont like jews and use it as a reason as to why youre unsuccessful.. That's fine, there are actually lots of grimy jews(mostly orthodox IMO) but youre a combination of homicidal, emotional and unintelligent at the same time, which is… not great.
There ya go.
edit: Btw, I'm a first generation American and my parents came here with nothing and were given nothing. My father worked his ass off and even overcame a language barrier in an engineering field. He instilled education, work ethic and having a backbone. See the difference between people like you and myself?
The USA is the greatest country and the best place for anyone to live on the planet. Especially with upward mobility between classes and overall QOL. (even for poor folks)
I never responded because I just felt pity for you. This is clearly a place (the misc) that is your only social outlet and I'm not trying to drive anyone to do crazy chit.
Regarding your request to answer, ok
You are clearly one-sided on the issue, I'm not very surprised you cant see that. I stopped reading pretty much here, you dont even know that we gave almost a quarter billion(yes, billion) to aid Palestinians this year alone. Even if 2020 it was something around 600 million..
You legitimately are just emotional about the topic, you dont like jews and use it as a reason as to why youre unsuccessful.. That's fine, there are actually lots of grimy jews(mostly orthodox IMO) but youre a combination of homicidal, emotional and unintelligent at the same time, which is… not great.
There ya go.
edit: Btw, I'm a first generation American and my parents came here with nothing and were given nothing. My father worked his ass off and even overcame a language barrier in an engineering field. He instilled education, work ethic and having a backbone. See the difference between people like you and myself?
The USA is the greatest country and the best place for anyone to live on the planet. Especially with upward mobility between classes and overall QOL. (even for poor folks)
Is pathetic.
08-19-2024, 06:33 PM
#45
Originally Posted By Sgt T-Man⏩
I agree those are factors, and repped you for recognizing that. But it's also cope to believe that the opportunities that having wealthy parents provides doesn't have a significant impact on the trajectory of their child. Rich parents give their kids a massive leg up.
Some what true, part of that is if your parents are rich they likely have traits that drive them to be self disciplined and goal driven so when they have children you engrain the same work ethic into the kids.
Also succesful people have higher IQ in many cases and that can be passed down also the kids will have someone to run ideas by.
I could go on & on but it is not simply your parents are rich & that is all that matters, that is pure cope.
Also succesful people have higher IQ in many cases and that can be passed down also the kids will have someone to run ideas by.
I could go on & on but it is not simply your parents are rich & that is all that matters, that is pure cope.
They have the money to send them to private schools, tutors, do lots of sports, build lots of connections (which is huge for internships etc.) and have lots of free time to do this stuff (i.e. not need to work some part time job). I could go on and on, but rich parents invest incredible amounts into almost guaranteeing a slot in an Ivy League university.
This is the issue I have with the "right" side of this debate. They provide examples of people who make it from some working class family, but those are the exceptions. It's cherry picked propaganda. Just like the left acts like it's nothing to do with hard work.
The reality is BOTH opportunity and work/skill (to execute on those opportunities) matters.
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08-19-2024, 06:34 PM
#46
Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
kiyosoki is a low IQ grifter feggit
Read "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" srs.
Sure, having parents that have money that can send you to better schools and get you the right help, does play a factor. However with so much financial options now it isn't quite the factor it used to be. The foundation of your mindset is so important. If your dad was all about running his own business that will be your mindset. If your dad worked under someone you probably will too. Also, with a rich dad you'll see what works and what doesn't.
Sure, having parents that have money that can send you to better schools and get you the right help, does play a factor. However with so much financial options now it isn't quite the factor it used to be. The foundation of your mindset is so important. If your dad was all about running his own business that will be your mindset. If your dad worked under someone you probably will too. Also, with a rich dad you'll see what works and what doesn't.
he got rich selling his seminars and books not from any of the shiet he preaches
he also lived thru low interest rate eras and still didnt make it
08-19-2024, 06:56 PM
#47
Originally Posted By 8pieces⏩
Are you fukkin retarded?
Pretty sure you’re the biggest trust fund kid on the misc. you don’t work inherited daddy’s real estate
Even if I had inherited real estate from my father, and it hadn’t been rendered worthless by the currency collapse in the 90’s, how would I get the money into this country?
You’re a special kind of retarded
You’re eat-with-rubber-cutlery retarded
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08-19-2024, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
You’ve never had a job where did you get your wealth??
Are you fukkin retarded?
Even if I had inherited real estate from my father, and it hadn’t been rendered worthless by the currency collapse in the 90’s, how would I get the money into this country?
You’re a special kind of retarded
You’re eat-with-rubber-cutlery retarded
Even if I had inherited real estate from my father, and it hadn’t been rendered worthless by the currency collapse in the 90’s, how would I get the money into this country?
You’re a special kind of retarded
You’re eat-with-rubber-cutlery retarded
08-19-2024, 07:06 PM
#49
Originally Posted By 8pieces⏩
Where did I say I never had a job
You’ve never had a job where did you get your wealth??
I asked if you’re retarded
A simple “yes” would have sufficed
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08-19-2024, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted By 8pieces⏩
I agree with you that most well off people have parents that are also well off, but most well off people work hard for their money. Unless you’re talking about 9 figure rich.
never working or worried about working living a life where you do anything you want. have a large nice house. I dont get how this is even doubted. just goto the nicest neighborhood in your city. 90% of those people dont work and are born rich. and if they do work they got the job by their dad
Their rich parents set them up for sure and they have opportunities that most others don’t have, therefore, they have it way easier. I agree with that. But they still work hard. I work with several of them. Most of them want to make a name for themselves, despite coming from Rich families. And hence work hard. They do have a large safety net if they fail tho.
What rich people/kids don’t understand is that poor people also work hard. I came from a poor family thst valued eduction, but my family has some of the hardest working people. There are tons and tons of poor people that work hard but will never get out of thst cycle. Most Rich people lack empathy and classify poor people as lazy, which is simply not true. Most poor people are not lazy, they just didn’t have the same opportunities as well off people, and therefore they’re stuck. And by the time they realize how the game is played, they are too late.
Source: I have been poor and I am now in the top 1 percent.
08-19-2024, 07:27 PM
#51
Just pulled and linked this with a 5 sec google search:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6385208/
Didnt read anything but title but it looks like what I am after.
You can add child abuse which ironically is correlated intergenerationally as being more likely and all kinds of additional variables to the point that it is literally mind boggling dead srs.
I am in a state of long term cognitive dissonance reconciling my world view with what I have learned over the last 10+ years of mostly self driven learning in regards to giving credit or blame to individuals dead srs.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6385208/
Didnt read anything but title but it looks like what I am after.
You can add child abuse which ironically is correlated intergenerationally as being more likely and all kinds of additional variables to the point that it is literally mind boggling dead srs.
I am in a state of long term cognitive dissonance reconciling my world view with what I have learned over the last 10+ years of mostly self driven learning in regards to giving credit or blame to individuals dead srs.
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08-19-2024, 07:43 PM
#52
Originally Posted By 8pieces⏩
I assumed you knew what they get in aid considering you made an argument that they receive too much… that was dumb of me. They receive 3.8B/year from a 10-year 38B aid package.
Why don’t you want to say how much israel gets and why it’s been number 1 since 1948??? Again I want both israel and Palestine to get ZERO in aid. Your copium
Is pathetic.
Is pathetic.
I dont understand how you dont feel stupid about being completely wrong about the aid given to the Palestinians, the whole foundation to your argument, and responding with, "why did you leave out what we give israel!?" the fuk lol
Do you acknowledge you have no idea about the foreign aid we give to that region?
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