Interesting concept. Maybe it's true. It's hard to know for sure because none of us have spent any time around each other in person to see how we really act. There's also the outlying stories (like nurse chick who rejected me after giving every possibly sign she was into me) where logic, emotion, etc have nothing to do with it. I've been told I'm an intense person because of my approach to life and how I'm so hard on myself, and all that. That could be my issue. I have no idea. As far as the rest of you go, it's such a crap-shoot, I can't honestly tell. I do feel like I'm too logical for most women I talk to but I think that's just normal? Guys are supposed to be logical, women aren't.

Of course there are guys like Bunz (funny you mention him, he's the first one I thought of too) that are on the verge of being institutionalized and seem to do well. A lot of that is probably just low IQ people seeking out other low IQ people though. I'd probably swallow a gallon of bleach of a guy like that ever landed a doctor or someone with actual intelligence in an actual relationship.

It is a weird conundrum though. I think yours is easier to figure out. You just need to move the fck out of the south.

Idk. I think its a decent theory. Ex told me I "thought like a robot". Not sure if her words have an weight

I know if I leave the south I will 100% come across more receptive non black women. Race relations in the dating world as not as peachy as people think. I'd say at least 50-75% of the dating profiles here say no black guys. Probably would see it on Tinder more, but since they can only message matches there is no reason for them to put that. However that doesn't explain the insanity that is black women outright ignoring and blowing me off worse than white girls.None of my other non stereotypical/generic black bros seem to run into this issue.

I am extremely goofy and never give any insight into how educated I am, so there's that.

I'd say there is truth to your theory.

I'm fairly funny myself. Everyone steals my phrasing, and etc. Or at work people will just tell me something that happened to them just for me to make a joke of it.

I just hate this **** man....fuk.

Yes, I have been thinking about it alot lately. I have been on the same path for years. It was obvious things were not going to change, if i kept doing the same things over and over, you know?



I never really cared enough to change for years. I liked my life. I had fun. I had some **** experiences, but good overall. Then I was seeing a 29 year old for 4 months this summer, the fourth month she ended up telling me she was battling depression and kept telling me she'd love to see me if i really wanted, and would keep calling me baby and everything over text. I decided to give her space, and just send her a supportive text like once a week for 3 weeks and she would respond back with a lovey dovey text. I found out she had gone exclusive with another guy. Looking back on it, i was idiot lol. Her love note text were just like so long and genuine, that i gave her the benefit of the doubt.

I just got so sick of always being **** on like that.


After years of genuinely not caring/getting down and i'd often laugh about situations like these, it kind of knocked me into a bit of a bad funk as i had gotten sick of it. Then i dated the girl with the coke as she pursued me so hard and it felt nice, and got ****ed there too. So, ive been trying to figure it out. Things were not going to change with the path that i was on as it had been the same cycles over and over again.


One of the things ive been having issue grasping is that these women acted extremely poorly/disrespectful and often times just randomly woke up and went for my jugular.Then end up with an unnattractive guy with a kid working retail or a 40 year old club promoter spamming ******** with his bathroom selfies, but is in horrible shape. I have a masters, do npc compeitions, have great fun friends and make 6 figures.

I have a hard time seeing a guy wearing socks up to his knees, setting stronger boundaries than i do/acting more "masculine". But, he ended up with her. And none of my guy friends have had any experiences ismilar to my relationshiops.


I guess their relationships could be entirely abusive and those guys just put up with it and i snapped. **** just gets me wondering though

The "Insanity" perhaps is you don't act like a walking stereotype. There must be some vibe you are giving off that your brahs aint. As Ranger said, you have to be with the person mentioning it to see it. I'm black myself, black and mixed race girls used to be so surprised about how 'well spoken' I was, when in reality, I only speak the type of lingo they expect when I am around about 6 childhood friends. Comes from working in a Helpdesk to my current role. There have been times where they have said "where are you from?" and when I let them know, its like I just nuked their minds cause its not like I hail from an affluent area.

As for me, nothing new to report, all the leads I had either ghosted / flaked out on me. So we are back at home base at the moment.

Feels. No one ever thinks I grew up around black people. Legit lived in public housing and they're like "nahhhhhh no way". Why the **** do black women eat up that b.s hoodish nonsense? **** the media. man, **** it all.

Sounds like we dated the same women? You aren't my neighbor are you? Lol.

I think the reason some people wake up one morning and go right for the jugular is because they don't have human empathy. It's just how it works. People don't give a flying fck about anyone else. I hate saying it but I think it's true for a lot of people. At the end of the day, they only care about themselves and they'll walk all over you without a second thought. It's scary how true it is and I wish it wasn't but our experiences are too similar to ignore it.

Like I said earlier, you can't wrap your head around understanding it. You're educated, make good money, have your **** together and yet this is a common theme. I would bet money that you attract the unstable ones who can smell your stability from a mile away. It's like a zombie smelling fresh blood. They see it and they pounce. And because you're probably a nice guy, you take their attitude as a sign of affection (I do) and then later realize it was them trying to lock you down and use you. It happens to all of us and it's really really hard to play detective 24/7 to see the angle of what the woman is really like. I have a hard time doing it because I also give the benefit of the doubt. Coming into a relationship like a cynical a-hole will only make you lose on the good relationships that might come your way.

You just need to do the same thing I need to do. You need to find QUALITY women. Maybe church? Maybe in a career field that is good quality? I don't know. If you find out though, let me know. I'm half-way tempted to hit up a church of younger crowd type people nearby that I was invited to. Maybe someone there is normal? Keep me updated bro. (srs)

I care about you bro (no homo).

Come up to my neck of the woods sometime and I'll introduce you to some good-hearted country gals.

Where's your neck of the woods? Where are these places where you slip numbers to girls over the top of a gas pump? Lmao. (good job though, srs)

Yeah rawdawgg, where you at? Let's take a spring trip.

Montana boyos. It's snowing as we speak. Those snow bunnies are gonna start coming out of the woodwork soon. I have found people around this area to be more genuine and down to earth than many other parts of the country.

You guys just let me know if you wanna come visit.

You serious bro-ham? I always wanted to see Montana. My old roommate lived up there for like 8 months working on trains or some crap. He hated it but he's a city type. How far are you from Big Sky?

I imagine the people in general are more down to earth and genuine up that way. The issue I always imagined would be fewer opportunities just based on population density.

Lol man, one day you're gonna be laughing looking back at those dates, I can share some funny ONS attempts I had:

think this was last year:
-hit on this sexy hoodrat israeli chick whose working at the mall, it's closing time, so I ask her if she wants to chill after, she's down
-since she's 18, can't go to a bar, so she says lets go to her place, and smoke a bowl, i'm like cool
- always carry rubbers on me, thinking this is an easy smash, I get to her place, she's wearing a wifebeater, clearly see her nice pierced double Ds
- she gives me pizza, we smoke weed, start making out, I'm like yes I'm in, roomate chills with us for a bit, then goes back to sleep
- weed is starting to wear out, trying to make the move to the bedroom, she flips the **** out, saying she's not easy this and that..and i'm like whaaaa...kicks me out of her apartment, no explanation lol

early this year:
- broke up with my gf, and 3 weeks later got a new gf, but still felt like creeping on girls, so me and my boy (who's also got a gf) hit the bars
-after getting shut down a few times, we get out of the bar & we meet these two out of towner chicks who are lookin to party, I've got my dad's beemer so I tell them lets roll with us;
- we hit a club up (this is like a wednesday, so everybody is suited up in there, and me & my boy are in hoodies/sweatshirts and fitted caps lol we look completely out of place..same with the girls), buy drinks, take my girl to the dancefloor, we're the only ones dancing, grinding (DJ actually felt like she was worth a damn)
- when it was time to leave, i went to the washroom to yak, told my boy to hold on to those girls (i think he was unconsiously trying to sabotage this cause he wasn't feelin his girl, trying to lose them on purpose)
- anyway catch up to them and we go back to their hotel, we're in..I chill in the balcony, and my girl snorts a line, and comes chills with me, next thing you know we're making out, my pants are down and she's holding my dick..but my boy lets his girl come in the balcony sabotaging us..and i'm like fukkk
- so go back inside, and my boy has that face, like he wants to leave, and my girl notices and i'm like ****..so i take my girl to the bathroom, to try and fukk, and she isn't feelin it anymore cause of my boy..she's like next time..and i'm like are u srs
- after we left my boy was like: "did u hit it?" i'm like: "hell nah, cause she noticed u wanted to leave" luckily the only rubber i had on me had a hole in it..and i found out she had 2 kids already, so I wasn't about that rawdog life yet..

here's a successful one, my last lay (last month) , and can probably attest to the don't sound so smart and get into intellectual convos, just get her drunk, dancing and find out if she's dtf

- meet this chick who's a teacher, few years older, white euro, at a party
- get along with her, offer her a ride home, she accepts, I've already downed like 5 beers, and 10 shots, yet so I was surprised I was good to drive
- talking to her, she noticed my cross on my mirror, I can tell she's one of those atheist, feminist blah blah type of chick, she tried to route the convo in that direction, but I was just playing dumb cause all I wanted was to get laid, i didn't wanna argue, that ****'s lame
- anyway I notice she's staying a block down from the bars, so I was like let's go before closing time, she's down, she drinks, we dance, i grind on her but she keeps pushing me way, i keep at it til she lets me grind, than i kiss up on her neck, she pushes me way, rinse and repeat, and we're making out,
- we go back to her place, i just do the "i need to use your washroom" deal, than the "can I chill on your bed, I drank a lot", that's when I try to make out with her again, she hesitates again, saying we shouldn't and I should leave, and I'm just like "don't worry I'll leave..but u know we're having fun though, no one's gonna find out" she's feelin it..keep repeating that ****, kiss her neck, grabbing her ass, she hesitates again ask me to leave again..and I'm like I'll leave..just let me use the washroom one more time..I piss, I come back..she's layin on the bed, ass out ready to fukk, lay next to her, kiss on her neck and tell her once again no one's gonna find out, she's down, I smash

Yes, you will see more quality people at church of course, but then again you also have to abide by their values and beliefs. That's what I noticed in my bible study group. At least in a women's bible study, women can share their challenges like temptation of a man at work when married and have the support of the other women to withstand temptation.

It sounds like outside of this environment, many young women have feminist friends who encourage slooty behavior.

I'm down to go to Montana if you are, USR. It's about a 6 hour flight from here though, lmaoooooo.

Also, will be in Los Angeles/San Diego/Anaheim in April. Just saying.

Srs. I'm a few hours from Big Sky. You're correct: there are fewer opportunities. But they are more quality opportunities.

I can't help it. 30 seconds in.

Hate to say it bro but girls your race see you as white washed and white girls see your skin color. You live in a place where that may still be seen as a negative. If you were out here in Cali, I honestly think girls of both races would be all over you.

I think "all over" is a strong term lol.

haha, ok fine. You would get noticed in a positive way and get attention.

We can only hope.

It's not Montana, but I'm from that part of the country and love it there. One of the last corners of America that people haven't ****ed up yet.

I'm not 100% sure where Big Sky is, but if you ever have a chance to go to Glacier National Park it's well worth your time.

Wtf....Conference out this way? I'll know where I'm doing my internship stuff in January/February so I'll come see you if the timing lines up. (srs)Quality is what I'm all about. The problem I find in small town dating though is if you date/break up with someone, you end up seeing them everywhere and then their friends talk, etc and it's always a pain in the ass.Sean Connery is one sexy motherfcker.Another country guy? Fuuaaaaarrrrrk.

And all this time I figured most of you fckers from from the south. (srs)

I always figured I'd end up in Colorado, Wyoming or Montana if I stick around the US and don't bail to SE Asia or Australia. Something about that part of the US seems to make more sense to me.

Finally a miscr whos actually positive and pulls.

Chill to pull ratio rating is a solid 15/5 my guy

Eh.

Getting a gf and then still hitting on other women? If that's your thing, go for it. Just understand that when you meet women in the future and they assume you're a d-bag, it's because of crap like this.

I've been to the bar and girls know I sleep around but its never deterred them from hooking up with me or getting with me. If anything it makes them want me more.

Any publicity is good publicity right?

Wasn't agreeing with him and the gf thing though. Maybe his definition of a gf is just dating/seeing each other which is what it looks like.

I'm in the south right now for school, and it's all right, but there's some things I don't care for. People overdo the whole country, redneck, and Jesus things in ways that just seem fake as hell. It's still full of right wing brahs so I appreciate that, and the winters are definitely nicer, but I just think home is a bit better.

I've thought about this a bit, since I'll probably end up in the Southeast long term. There's not a ton of jobs back home. I sent in a bunch of applications for jobs there that I would've taken in 2 seconds, but I never heard back from any of them. Got an internship offer here with a Fortune 500 company offering great pay in a cheap area, so I really couldn't turn that down.

Overseas jobs are something that honestly kind of interests me. The money is good and and being on the FA crew it would be a lot easier for me to leave than most (brb no wife/kids, no friends, no mortgage). Haven't really looked into it, but I have heard from people who have gone and the money some of those guys made was just stupid.

Talk about aggressive lmao. Rather surprised she let you hit it after that cringeworthy display of desperation. She says no twice to me and that's that.

1. she was brand new + i knew she was gonna be moving away in 6 months, that relationship wasn't gonna last
2. let them assume, they love jerks, they hate the fact that they have options and can leave her at any time, but that's what keeps them attached

why complain about the game, when you can just play the way it's supposed to be played, and get what you wanti've done cringier ****, but as long as she's not pissed and asking you to leave (keyword: pissed) than it's still a green light as long as u get her consent (meaning: is she really down); we ain't raping girls out here