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03-04-2024, 02:28 PM
#631
Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
The argument is related to suicide rates those with gender dysphoria.
They'll somehow die without the surgery or puberty blockers???
03-04-2024, 02:37 PM
#632
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Are you referring to the notion that if children do not receive gender surgery, they are more prone to suicide?
I don't think anyone would. What you deem unnecessary may be deemed necessary, or life-saving, by professionals.
Cause that was already proven false.
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03-04-2024, 03:04 PM
#633
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
No, it wasn't proven false.
Are you referring to the notion that if children do not receive gender surgery, they are more prone to suicide?
Cause that was already proven false.
Cause that was already proven false.
The effect sizes in the literature are pretty variable though.
03-04-2024, 03:09 PM
#634
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
That was what I posted. They aren’t doing the surgeries and giving hormones based on suicides or outcomes, and aren’t even considering the illness itself, because they have no idea what the outcomes are. It is not evidence based medicine, which has been the standard for many decades. This is completely experimental. Human testing/sterilization (eugenics) on children. Once these children grow up and hit 30 years old, it’s very possible we start seeing massive suicides…possibly in the 10s of thousands by that point. Even now, after transitioning, there are many cases of suicides being documented. THe number is already higher than the alternative treatment.
Are you referring to the notion that if children do not receive gender surgery, they are more prone to suicide?
Cause that was already proven false.
Cause that was already proven false.
In other words, they aren’t treating the illness at all. They just want to see what happens.
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03-04-2024, 03:24 PM
#635
Here's some other work that contrasts what was shared in the editorial:
Association Between Gender-Affirming Surgeries and Mental Health Outcomes
" Conclusions and Relevance
This study demonstrates an association between gender-affirming surgery and improved mental health outcomes. These results contribute new evidence to support the provision of gender-affirming surgical care for TGD people."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...stract/2779429
Mental Health Outcomes in Transgender and Nonbinary Youths Receiving Gender-Affirming Care
" Conclusions and Relevance
This study found that gender-affirming medical interventions were associated with lower odds of depression and suicidality over 12 months. These data add to existing evidence suggesting that gender-affirming care may be associated with improved well-being among TNB youths over a short period, which is important given mental health disparities experienced by this population, particularly the high levels of self-harm and suicide."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2789423
Access to Gender-Affirming Care and Transgender Mental Health: Evidence from Medicaid Coverage
"Results demonstrate that Medicaid coverage of gender-affirming care meaningfully improves the mental health of transgender people. We also provide suggestive evidence that this is driven by increased uptake of gender-affirming care."
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=4164673
Mental health and quality of life outcomes of gender-affirming surgery: A systematic literature review
" Conclusion
This review supports the need for more sustainable and accessible gender-affirming surgery as a means for improving the mental health and overall QoL among transgender individuals and indicates the need for further research with greater methodological rigor focusing on correlates of positive gender-affirming surgical outcomes. Without social, legal, and public policy responses to transgender discrimination, marginalization and exclusion, the beneficial outcomes of improved gender-affirming surgery will remain unclear."
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full...lkTkg73LZEezu0
Reduction in Mental Health Treatment Utilization Among Transgender Individuals After Gender-Affirming Surgeries: A Total Population Study
" Conclusions:
In this first total population study of transgender individuals with a gender incongruence diagnosis, the longitudinal association between gender-affirming surgery and reduced likelihood of mental health treatment lends support to the decision to provide gender-affirming surgeries to transgender individuals who seek them."
https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi....2019.19010080
Association Between Gender-Affirming Surgeries and Mental Health Outcomes
" Conclusions and Relevance
This study demonstrates an association between gender-affirming surgery and improved mental health outcomes. These results contribute new evidence to support the provision of gender-affirming surgical care for TGD people."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...stract/2779429
Mental Health Outcomes in Transgender and Nonbinary Youths Receiving Gender-Affirming Care
" Conclusions and Relevance
This study found that gender-affirming medical interventions were associated with lower odds of depression and suicidality over 12 months. These data add to existing evidence suggesting that gender-affirming care may be associated with improved well-being among TNB youths over a short period, which is important given mental health disparities experienced by this population, particularly the high levels of self-harm and suicide."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2789423
Access to Gender-Affirming Care and Transgender Mental Health: Evidence from Medicaid Coverage
"Results demonstrate that Medicaid coverage of gender-affirming care meaningfully improves the mental health of transgender people. We also provide suggestive evidence that this is driven by increased uptake of gender-affirming care."
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=4164673
Mental health and quality of life outcomes of gender-affirming surgery: A systematic literature review
" Conclusion
This review supports the need for more sustainable and accessible gender-affirming surgery as a means for improving the mental health and overall QoL among transgender individuals and indicates the need for further research with greater methodological rigor focusing on correlates of positive gender-affirming surgical outcomes. Without social, legal, and public policy responses to transgender discrimination, marginalization and exclusion, the beneficial outcomes of improved gender-affirming surgery will remain unclear."
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full...lkTkg73LZEezu0
Reduction in Mental Health Treatment Utilization Among Transgender Individuals After Gender-Affirming Surgeries: A Total Population Study
" Conclusions:
In this first total population study of transgender individuals with a gender incongruence diagnosis, the longitudinal association between gender-affirming surgery and reduced likelihood of mental health treatment lends support to the decision to provide gender-affirming surgeries to transgender individuals who seek them."
https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi....2019.19010080
03-04-2024, 04:03 PM
#636
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Yes, when you give children drugs, especially test, it has been shown to improve mood & present a state of euphoria.
Here's some other work that contrasts what was shared in the editorial:
Association Between Gender-Affirming Surgeries and Mental Health Outcomes
" Conclusions and Relevance
This study demonstrates an association between gender-affirming surgery and improved mental health outcomes. These results contribute new evidence to support the provision of gender-affirming surgical care for TGD people."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...stract/2779429
Mental Health Outcomes in Transgender and Nonbinary Youths Receiving Gender-Affirming Care
" Conclusions and Relevance
This study found that gender-affirming medical interventions were associated with lower odds of depression and suicidality over 12 months. These data add to existing evidence suggesting that gender-affirming care may be associated with improved well-being among TNB youths over a short period, which is important given mental health disparities experienced by this population, particularly the high levels of self-harm and suicide."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2789423
Access to Gender-Affirming Care and Transgender Mental Health: Evidence from Medicaid Coverage
"Results demonstrate that Medicaid coverage of gender-affirming care meaningfully improves the mental health of transgender people. We also provide suggestive evidence that this is driven by increased uptake of gender-affirming care."
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=4164673
Mental health and quality of life outcomes of gender-affirming surgery: A systematic literature review
" Conclusion
This review supports the need for more sustainable and accessible gender-affirming surgery as a means for improving the mental health and overall QoL among transgender individuals and indicates the need for further research with greater methodological rigor focusing on correlates of positive gender-affirming surgical outcomes. Without social, legal, and public policy responses to transgender discrimination, marginalization and exclusion, the beneficial outcomes of improved gender-affirming surgery will remain unclear."
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full...lkTkg73LZEezu0
Reduction in Mental Health Treatment Utilization Among Transgender Individuals After Gender-Affirming Surgeries: A Total Population Study
" Conclusions:
In this first total population study of transgender individuals with a gender incongruence diagnosis, the longitudinal association between gender-affirming surgery and reduced likelihood of mental health treatment lends support to the decision to provide gender-affirming surgeries to transgender individuals who seek them."
https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi....2019.19010080
Association Between Gender-Affirming Surgeries and Mental Health Outcomes
" Conclusions and Relevance
This study demonstrates an association between gender-affirming surgery and improved mental health outcomes. These results contribute new evidence to support the provision of gender-affirming surgical care for TGD people."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...stract/2779429
Mental Health Outcomes in Transgender and Nonbinary Youths Receiving Gender-Affirming Care
" Conclusions and Relevance
This study found that gender-affirming medical interventions were associated with lower odds of depression and suicidality over 12 months. These data add to existing evidence suggesting that gender-affirming care may be associated with improved well-being among TNB youths over a short period, which is important given mental health disparities experienced by this population, particularly the high levels of self-harm and suicide."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2789423
Access to Gender-Affirming Care and Transgender Mental Health: Evidence from Medicaid Coverage
"Results demonstrate that Medicaid coverage of gender-affirming care meaningfully improves the mental health of transgender people. We also provide suggestive evidence that this is driven by increased uptake of gender-affirming care."
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=4164673
Mental health and quality of life outcomes of gender-affirming surgery: A systematic literature review
" Conclusion
This review supports the need for more sustainable and accessible gender-affirming surgery as a means for improving the mental health and overall QoL among transgender individuals and indicates the need for further research with greater methodological rigor focusing on correlates of positive gender-affirming surgical outcomes. Without social, legal, and public policy responses to transgender discrimination, marginalization and exclusion, the beneficial outcomes of improved gender-affirming surgery will remain unclear."
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full...lkTkg73LZEezu0
Reduction in Mental Health Treatment Utilization Among Transgender Individuals After Gender-Affirming Surgeries: A Total Population Study
" Conclusions:
In this first total population study of transgender individuals with a gender incongruence diagnosis, the longitudinal association between gender-affirming surgery and reduced likelihood of mental health treatment lends support to the decision to provide gender-affirming surgeries to transgender individuals who seek them."
https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi....2019.19010080
News this is not. I presented a long term study showing transgender operations actually increase suicide & depression
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03-04-2024, 04:09 PM
#637
Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Exactly.
That was what I posted. They aren’t doing the surgeries and giving hormones based on suicides or outcomes, and aren’t even considering the illness itself, because they have no idea what the outcomes are. It is not evidence based medicine, which has been the standard for many decades. This is completely experimental. Human testing/sterilization (eugenics) on children. Once these children grow up and hit 30 years old, it’s very possible we start seeing massive suicides…possibly in the 10s of thousands by that point. Even now, after transitioning, there are many cases of suicides being documented. THe number is already higher than the alternative treatment.
In other words, they aren’t treating the illness at all. They just want to see what happens.
In other words, they aren’t treating the illness at all. They just want to see what happens.
BRB, give kids drugs after operation that have been shown to improve mood & claim operation is needed to improve their well being.
Circular logic
I take a very small amount of test a month, through a chit delivery system. Alcohol based liquid application under the armpit (prescription)..my mood instantly changes when I run out.
To overlook this fact about these operations is either blind ignorance on the medical community or outright deceptive
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03-04-2024, 04:21 PM
#638
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Why would a MTF person take testosterone?
Yes, when you give children drugs, especially test, it has been shown to improve mood & present a state of euphoria.
News this is not. I presented a long term study showing transgender operations actually increase suicide & depression
News this is not. I presented a long term study showing transgender operations actually increase suicide & depression
03-04-2024, 04:31 PM
#639
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
They take estrogen, estrogen increases serotonin
Why would a MTF person take testosterone?
https://www.webmd.com/women/estrogen...omens-emotions
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03-04-2024, 04:43 PM
#640
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Well that settles that.
They take estrogen, estrogen increases serotonin
https://www.webmd.com/women/estrogen...omens-emotions
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https://www.webmd.com/women/estrogen...omens-emotions
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We went from p3dophilia being taught in schools, to gender affirming care not doing anything, to gender affirming care helping mental health because it's obvious.
What I don't quite understand is that MTF folks already have testosterone and FTM folks already have estrogen, yet even the opposed are saying administered the opposite hormone is expected to help - but should not be done. Quizzical
03-04-2024, 04:45 PM
#641
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Yea..I know.
Well that settles that.
Thanks for playing though..
Edit-nice edit. Yes, it is has been shown giving people drugs to improve their mood, will improve their mood. Strong discovery lol.
Edit number 2-weird how you keep editing your posts & adding on. Let’s try this one more time FTM are given test, MTF are given estrogen, both have been shown to effect mood for the better and or produce serotonin…claiming that an operation is needed to relieve suicide and depression is simply unfounded knowing the effects of drugs given to these children.
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03-04-2024, 04:56 PM
#642
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Umm..no
Drugs meaning opposite to natural sex hormones apparently
Odd that high estrogen in men is associated with depression and low as well as high testosterone levels are related to depression in women tho
Odd that high estrogen in men is associated with depression and low as well as high testosterone levels are related to depression in women tho
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6329173/
“Testosterone therapy for women is in widespread use, primarily in the form of compounded preparations and off-label use of formulations for men. The benefits and risks of such therapy remain uncertain. This review will identify and evaluate studies that have examined the effects of testosterone therapy for women on a range of outcomes including sexual function, cardiovascular events, metabolic parameters, musculoskeletal health, wellbeing, cancer events, androgenic effects and withdrawal rates.”
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03-04-2024, 04:58 PM
#643
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Drugs meaning opposite to natural sex hormones apparently
Yea..I know.
Thanks for playing though..
Edit-nice edit. Yes, it is has been shown giving people drugs to improve their mood, will improve their mood. Strong discovery lol.
Thanks for playing though..
Edit-nice edit. Yes, it is has been shown giving people drugs to improve their mood, will improve their mood. Strong discovery lol.
Odd that high estrogen in men is associated with depression and low as well as, high testosterone levels are related to depression in women tho
03-04-2024, 04:59 PM
#644
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
The article you shared does not include the words "depression" or "mental"
Umm..no
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6329173/
“Testosterone therapy for women is in widespread use, primarily in the form of compounded preparations and off-label use of formulations for men. The benefits and risks of such therapy remain uncertain. This review will identify and evaluate studies that have examined the effects of testosterone therapy for women on a range of outcomes including sexual function, cardiovascular events, metabolic parameters, musculoskeletal health, wellbeing, cancer events, androgenic effects and withdrawal rates.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6329173/
“Testosterone therapy for women is in widespread use, primarily in the form of compounded preparations and off-label use of formulations for men. The benefits and risks of such therapy remain uncertain. This review will identify and evaluate studies that have examined the effects of testosterone therapy for women on a range of outcomes including sexual function, cardiovascular events, metabolic parameters, musculoskeletal health, wellbeing, cancer events, androgenic effects and withdrawal rates.”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11955793/
03-04-2024, 05:00 PM
#645
And..
Hormone therapy for transgender patients
-Hormone therapy improves transgender patients’ quality of life (20). Longitudinal studies also show positive effects on sexual function and mood (16,18). There is biologic evidence that may explain this. Kranz et al. (21) have looked at the acute and chronic effects of estrogen and testosterone on serotonin reuptake transporter (SERT) binding in trans men and women. SERT expression has been shown to be reduced in individuals with major depression (22). Kranz et al. found that androgen treatment in transmen increased SERT binding in several places in the brain and anti-androgen and estrogen therapy led to decreases in regional SERT binding in trans women. These types of data are preliminary, but do point to the important role of hormone therapy in patients who suffer from gender dysphoria.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5182227/
Should I take the science word over yours?
Hormone therapy for transgender patients
-Hormone therapy improves transgender patients’ quality of life (20). Longitudinal studies also show positive effects on sexual function and mood (16,18). There is biologic evidence that may explain this. Kranz et al. (21) have looked at the acute and chronic effects of estrogen and testosterone on serotonin reuptake transporter (SERT) binding in trans men and women. SERT expression has been shown to be reduced in individuals with major depression (22). Kranz et al. found that androgen treatment in transmen increased SERT binding in several places in the brain and anti-androgen and estrogen therapy led to decreases in regional SERT binding in trans women. These types of data are preliminary, but do point to the important role of hormone therapy in patients who suffer from gender dysphoria.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5182227/
Should I take the science word over yours?
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03-04-2024, 05:02 PM
#646
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
The article you shared does not include the words "depression" or "mental"
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11955793/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11955793/
But the one above does.
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03-04-2024, 05:02 PM
#647
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
You're using this to argue
against
hormone therapy for gender dysphoria?
And..
Hormone therapy for transgender patients
-Hormone therapy improves transgender patients’ quality of life (20). Longitudinal studies also show positive effects on sexual function and mood (16,18). There is biologic evidence that may explain this. Kranz et al. (21) have looked at the acute and chronic effects of estrogen and testosterone on serotonin reuptake transporter (SERT) binding in trans men and women. SERT expression has been shown to be reduced in individuals with major depression (22). Kranz et al. found that androgen treatment in transmen increased SERT binding in several places in the brain and anti-androgen and estrogen therapy led to decreases in regional SERT binding in trans women. These types of data are preliminary, but do point to the important role of hormone therapy in patients who suffer from gender dysphoria.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6329173/
Should I take the science word over yours?
Hormone therapy for transgender patients
-Hormone therapy improves transgender patients’ quality of life (20). Longitudinal studies also show positive effects on sexual function and mood (16,18). There is biologic evidence that may explain this. Kranz et al. (21) have looked at the acute and chronic effects of estrogen and testosterone on serotonin reuptake transporter (SERT) binding in trans men and women. SERT expression has been shown to be reduced in individuals with major depression (22). Kranz et al. found that androgen treatment in transmen increased SERT binding in several places in the brain and anti-androgen and estrogen therapy led to decreases in regional SERT binding in trans women. These types of data are preliminary, but do point to the important role of hormone therapy in patients who suffer from gender dysphoria.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6329173/
Should I take the science word over yours?
03-04-2024, 05:04 PM
#648
Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Did not claim it does, estrogen does however
Where has testosterone been shown to produce serotonin?
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03-04-2024, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
You're using this to argue
against
hormone therapy for gender dysphoria?
Huh? Hormone therapy improves mood…are people not undergoing trans procedures given hormone therapy?
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03-04-2024, 05:07 PM
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Testosterone levels in healthy men correlate negatively with serotonin 4 receptor binding
"The mechanisms by which sex hormones are involved in mood regulation are far from clear.
Suggested mechanisms include interactions with the serotonin system (which is key in emotional processing), supported by both preclinical and human studies (Barth et al., 2015, Bethea et al., 2002). Several human studies link sex hormones intimately to serotonin signalling in women; estradiol replacement therapy increases serotonin 2A receptor binding (5-HT2AR, the most abundant serotonin receptor in the brain) (Kugaya et al., 2003, Moses-Kolko et al., 2003) and reduces serotonin transporters (Jovanovic et al., 2015) that exert control over synaptic levels of serotonin and thus may affect serotonin brain tonus.
Also, a positron emission tomography (PET) study in transsexual individuals highlights the link between sex-steroids and serotonin; androgen treatment in female-to-male transsexuals increased serotonin transporter binding in subcortical regions whereas anti-androgen and estrogen treatment in male-to-female transsexuals reduced serotonin transporter binding in cortical regions (Kranz et al., 2015).
Further, depressive symptoms triggered by pharmacologically induced fluctuations in ovarian sex hormones are associated with an increase of neocortical serotonin transporters (Frokjaer et al., 2015). This increase putatively reduces serotonergic tone in projection areas, proposed to trigger depressive symptoms (Frokjaer et al., 2015)."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28426945/
"The mechanisms by which sex hormones are involved in mood regulation are far from clear.
Suggested mechanisms include interactions with the serotonin system (which is key in emotional processing), supported by both preclinical and human studies (Barth et al., 2015, Bethea et al., 2002). Several human studies link sex hormones intimately to serotonin signalling in women; estradiol replacement therapy increases serotonin 2A receptor binding (5-HT2AR, the most abundant serotonin receptor in the brain) (Kugaya et al., 2003, Moses-Kolko et al., 2003) and reduces serotonin transporters (Jovanovic et al., 2015) that exert control over synaptic levels of serotonin and thus may affect serotonin brain tonus.
Also, a positron emission tomography (PET) study in transsexual individuals highlights the link between sex-steroids and serotonin; androgen treatment in female-to-male transsexuals increased serotonin transporter binding in subcortical regions whereas anti-androgen and estrogen treatment in male-to-female transsexuals reduced serotonin transporter binding in cortical regions (Kranz et al., 2015).
Further, depressive symptoms triggered by pharmacologically induced fluctuations in ovarian sex hormones are associated with an increase of neocortical serotonin transporters (Frokjaer et al., 2015). This increase putatively reduces serotonergic tone in projection areas, proposed to trigger depressive symptoms (Frokjaer et al., 2015)."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28426945/
03-04-2024, 05:09 PM
#651
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Hormone therapy is gender affirming care.
Huh? Hormone therapy improves mood…are people not undergoing trans procedures given hormone therapy?
03-04-2024, 05:15 PM
#652
Here it is again in case you missed it..
Hormone therapy improves transgender patients’ quality of life (20). Longitudinal studies also show positive effects on sexual function and mood (16,18). There is biologic evidence that may explain this. Kranz et al. (21) have looked at the acute and chronic effects of estrogen and testosterone on serotonin reuptake transporter (SERT) binding in trans men and women. SERT expression has been shown to be reduced in individuals with major depression (22). Kranz et al. found that androgen treatment in transmen increased SERT binding in several places in the brain and anti-androgen and estrogen therapy led to decreases in regional SERT binding in trans women. These types of data are preliminary, but do point to the important role of hormone therapy in patients who suffer from gender dysphoria.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6329173/
And another..
Is hormonal therapy associated with better quality of life in transsexuals? A cross-sectional study.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22145968/
"Conclusion: The present study suggests a positive effect of hormone therapy on transsexuals' QoL after accounting for confounding factors. These results will be useful for healthcare providers of transgender persons but should be confirmed with larger samples using a prospective study design.
And another..
High-Dose Testosterone Treatment Increases Serotonin Transporter Binding in Transgender People.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25497691/
"4 months of antiandrogen and estrogen treatment in male-to-female transsexuals led to decreases in SERT binding in insula, anterior, and mid-cingulate cortex. Increases in estradiol levels correlated negatively with decreases in regional SERT binding, indicating a protective effect of estradiol against SERT loss."
I can post more if you like
Hormone therapy improves transgender patients’ quality of life (20). Longitudinal studies also show positive effects on sexual function and mood (16,18). There is biologic evidence that may explain this. Kranz et al. (21) have looked at the acute and chronic effects of estrogen and testosterone on serotonin reuptake transporter (SERT) binding in trans men and women. SERT expression has been shown to be reduced in individuals with major depression (22). Kranz et al. found that androgen treatment in transmen increased SERT binding in several places in the brain and anti-androgen and estrogen therapy led to decreases in regional SERT binding in trans women. These types of data are preliminary, but do point to the important role of hormone therapy in patients who suffer from gender dysphoria.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6329173/
And another..
Is hormonal therapy associated with better quality of life in transsexuals? A cross-sectional study.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22145968/
"Conclusion: The present study suggests a positive effect of hormone therapy on transsexuals' QoL after accounting for confounding factors. These results will be useful for healthcare providers of transgender persons but should be confirmed with larger samples using a prospective study design.
And another..
High-Dose Testosterone Treatment Increases Serotonin Transporter Binding in Transgender People.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25497691/
"4 months of antiandrogen and estrogen treatment in male-to-female transsexuals led to decreases in SERT binding in insula, anterior, and mid-cingulate cortex. Increases in estradiol levels correlated negatively with decreases in regional SERT binding, indicating a protective effect of estradiol against SERT loss."
I can post more if you like
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03-04-2024, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Which results in a state of euphoria..gonna suck when that feeling wears off and the drugs stop..huh?
Hormone therapy is gender affirming care.
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03-04-2024, 05:27 PM
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Hormonal treatment reduces psychobiological distress in gender identity disorder, independently of the attachment style
Conclusion: Our results suggested that untreated patients suffer from a higher degree of stress and that attachment insecurity negatively impacts the stress management. Initiating the hormonal treatment seemed to have a positive effect in reducing stress levels, whatever the attachment style may be.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23574768/
Conclusion: Our results suggested that untreated patients suffer from a higher degree of stress and that attachment insecurity negatively impacts the stress management. Initiating the hormonal treatment seemed to have a positive effect in reducing stress levels, whatever the attachment style may be.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23574768/
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03-04-2024, 05:29 PM
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This wall of text shows the limits of AI.
Who is J6 "Scaffold Commander," the key to the J6 Fedsurrection? https://rumble.com/v45y4z6-why-is-the-king-pin-of-j6-scaffold-commander-not-wanted-nor-identified-by-t.html
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03-04-2024, 05:32 PM
#656
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Yes
Hormonal treatment reduces psychobiological distress in gender identity disorder, independently of the attachment style
Conclusion: Our results suggested that untreated patients suffer from a higher degree of stress and that attachment insecurity negatively impacts the stress management. Initiating the hormonal treatment seemed to have a positive effect in reducing stress levels, whatever the attachment style may be.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23574768/
Conclusion: Our results suggested that untreated patients suffer from a higher degree of stress and that attachment insecurity negatively impacts the stress management. Initiating the hormonal treatment seemed to have a positive effect in reducing stress levels, whatever the attachment style may be.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23574768/
That is my point.
Gender affecting care helps many prior with gender dysphoria.
It is usually the first, and often only, medical treatment.
Kinda cool that you changed your view. Props for having an open mind
03-04-2024, 05:38 PM
#657
Secret documents just posted. Apparently this is an international transgender group that has been responsible for major push for minors to be converted. These are sick, evil people, and anyone that supports it is evil as well. J.L.C.. That’s you.
The results of these “transitions” on children are having devastating outcomes, including severely messed up bowels,
https://nypost.com/2024/03/04/opinio...ry-for-minors/
Again, they are sacrificing children for this! This is absolutely satanic. The article contains more.
The results of these “transitions” on children are having devastating outcomes, including severely messed up bowels,
https://nypost.com/2024/03/04/opinio...ry-for-minors/
When the organization adopted in 2022 its current Standards of Care — relied on by the National Institutes of Health, the World Health Organization and every major American medical and psychiatric association —
it scrapped a draft chapter about ethics and removed minimum-age requirements for children starting puberty blockers or undergoing sexual-modification surgeries.
…
The tissue is too immature, dilation routine too critical.”
In lay terms, that means boys who are too young do not have enough penal tissue for the surgery and the surgeon must harvest intestinal lining to build the faux vagina . Even Bowers admits that can lead to “problematic surgical outcomes.”
The tissue is too immature, dilation routine too critical.”
In lay terms, that means boys who are too young do not have enough penal tissue for the surgery and the surgeon must harvest intestinal lining to build the faux vagina . Even Bowers admits that can lead to “problematic surgical outcomes.”
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
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03-04-2024, 05:39 PM
#658
Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Hormonal treatment reduces psychobiological distress in gender identity disorder, independently of the attachment style
Conclusion: Our results suggested that untreated patients suffer from a higher degree of stress and that attachment insecurity negatively impacts the stress management. Initiating the hormonal treatment seemed to have a positive effect in reducing stress levels, whatever the attachment style may be.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23574768/
Conclusion: Our results suggested that untreated patients suffer from a higher degree of stress and that attachment insecurity negatively impacts the stress management. Initiating the hormonal treatment seemed to have a positive effect in reducing stress levels, whatever the attachment style may be.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23574768/
Again, don’t waste your time with that retard. He spent the entire thread about meat consumption being linked to diabetes arguing about petty bullsh!t despite agreeing that it was a garbage study(which he didn’t admit until much much later after he had gotten the thrills of trolling). He does similar bullsh!t every time he posts. He’s sharing studies which only show reduced suicidal THOUGHTS for 12 months, and acting like it proves you wrong when it doesn’t. It doesn’t even show that less committed suicide during the first 12 months, much less over longer time periods. He knows this and doesn’t care. He just wants to irritate you.
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03-04-2024, 05:46 PM
#659
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Still, the majority of the literature posted in this thread supports the position Paul just took
Again, don’t waste your time with that retard. He spent the entire thread about meat consumption being linked to diabetes arguing about petty bullsh!t despite agreeing that it was a garbage study(which he didn’t admit until much much later after he had gotten the thrills of trolling). He does similar bullsh!t every time he posts. He’s sharing studies which only show reduced suicidal THOUGHTS for 12 months, and acting like it proves you wrong when it doesn’t. It doesn’t even show that less committed suicide during the first 12 months, much less over longer time periods. He knows this and doesn’t care. He just wants to irritate you.
03-04-2024, 05:49 PM
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breaking news proving dems/libs trying to normalize p3d0filia:
https://tinyurl.com/4936x588
(I had to use tinyurl cuz the link says "p3d0" in it)
karen berg's son was a trans that killed himself a couple years ago:
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/karen-...ucky-1.6886937
Not only is this dem senator trying to normalize p3do by supporting child sex dolls for adults, but her son was a tranny that killed himself. Another clear example of the dems/libs trying to normalize p3do and showing the link between p3do and lgbt
Kentucky Democrat Senator Karen Berg (D-Louisville KY) is being widely criticized after implying during a legislative committee meeting last week that allowing ****philes access to child sex dolls could help lessen their desire to abuse children.
Read more at: https://www.kentucky.com/news/politi...286225230.html
Read more at: https://www.kentucky.com/news/politi...286225230.html
(I had to use tinyurl cuz the link says "p3d0" in it)
karen berg's son was a trans that killed himself a couple years ago:
https://www.cbc.ca/radio/day6/karen-...ucky-1.6886937
Not only is this dem senator trying to normalize p3do by supporting child sex dolls for adults, but her son was a tranny that killed himself. Another clear example of the dems/libs trying to normalize p3do and showing the link between p3do and lgbt
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