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09-10-2016, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted By pinhooker⏩
Try chambering and firing a 6.5c round in a firearm chambered for .308, see what happens.you need an entirely new upper to shoot 6.5C out of a 308 AR? wow this is really interesting, please tell me more
i've seen 6.5C at literally every walmart i've ever been in....and just lol if you aren't buying ammo online anyways. so lol at that point
match 6.5C and "match" 308 ammo (i put it in parenthesis because the round is as useless as musket in 2016) cost is very comprable
if you try to tell me something about some garbage east euro 308 ammo being cheaper...whats the point of owning some large frame AR or bolt rifle only to shoot 2-4 MOA ammo out of it?
and also lol if you are shooting precision oriented rifles and not reloading
i've seen 6.5C at literally every walmart i've ever been in....and just lol if you aren't buying ammo online anyways. so lol at that point
match 6.5C and "match" 308 ammo (i put it in parenthesis because the round is as useless as musket in 2016) cost is very comprable
if you try to tell me something about some garbage east euro 308 ammo being cheaper...whats the point of owning some large frame AR or bolt rifle only to shoot 2-4 MOA ammo out of it?
and also lol if you are shooting precision oriented rifles and not reloading
And ain't nothin wrong with pmc 308. Itl go bang err time, unlike handloads.
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09-10-2016, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
just checking in to say, in 1k plus reloads, I have never had a FTF. (223 and 308)Try chambering and firing a 6.5c round in a firearm chambered for .308, see what happens.
And ain't nothin wrong with pmc 308. Itl go bang err time, unlike handloads.
And ain't nothin wrong with pmc 308. Itl go bang err time, unlike handloads.
308 I think has an advantage in energy. Also some hunters prefer the larger round. Maybe more bullet selection?(not sure of that)
6.5 is better for precision that is for sure.
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09-10-2016, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
6.5C Match seems to cost about as much as FGMM.http://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle-...creedmoor-ammoMakes perfect sense being as 6.5 creedmoor is considerably more expensive and hard to find.
Furthermore, you can't simply "shoot 308 out of a gun that can shoot 6.5C" the two calibers are not interchangable, if it's an AR platform, you need a 308 lower and an entirely new upper receiver... which would not be cheap, all to shoot a round that's significantly more expensive.
But obviously anyone who doesn't do this must have been repetedly dropped as a baby...
Furthermore, you can't simply "shoot 308 out of a gun that can shoot 6.5C" the two calibers are not interchangable, if it's an AR platform, you need a 308 lower and an entirely new upper receiver... which would not be cheap, all to shoot a round that's significantly more expensive.
But obviously anyone who doesn't do this must have been repetedly dropped as a baby...
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09-10-2016, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
just lol at how stupid you areTry chambering and firing a 6.5c round in a firearm chambered for .308, see what happens.
and never had a ftf and a reloaded round
09-10-2016, 10:21 PM
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thoughts on a dissipator style rifle?
carbine length barrel, mid or rifle length gas, up to you but traditionally rifle length. FSB / gas block pushed up to accommodate the extra length. less recoil, all that shiit.
carbine length barrel, mid or rifle length gas, up to you but traditionally rifle length. FSB / gas block pushed up to accommodate the extra length. less recoil, all that shiit.
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09-10-2016, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted By TylerA120⏩
softest shooting rofle IMO is a 14.5 midlength with a pinned comp/brake. Also tuned with the right buffer.thoughts on a dissipator style rifle?
carbine length barrel, mid or rifle length gas, up to you but traditionally rifle length. FSB / gas block pushed up to accommodate the extra length. less recoil, all that shiit.
carbine length barrel, mid or rifle length gas, up to you but traditionally rifle length. FSB / gas block pushed up to accommodate the extra length. less recoil, all that shiit.
i imagine a 18in with a rifle length system with a comp/brake would be pretty TST too.(damn apparently you can do a 16 with a rifle system too)
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09-10-2016, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted By EQUlLIBRIUM⏩
Co-signedsoftest shooting rofle IMO is a 14.5 midlength with a pinned comp/brake. Also tuned with the right buffer.
i imagine a 18in with a rifle length system with a comp/brake would be pretty TST too.(damn apparently you can do a 16 with a rifle system too)
i imagine a 18in with a rifle length system with a comp/brake would be pretty TST too.(damn apparently you can do a 16 with a rifle system too)
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09-10-2016, 10:31 PM
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Also... 6.5 Creedmoor is SO much better, in every way, compared to .308. Only edge .308 has is terminal ballistics. Important for hunting I would guess, but precision is 6.5 Creeds game.
Signed: former .308 owner
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09-10-2016, 10:33 PM
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#7389
Originally Posted By EQUlLIBRIUM⏩
Agree with bold, but for reliability it seems unwise to run reloads in a firearm you'd be using for self defense/HD.just checking in to say, in 1k plus reloads, I have never had a FTF. (223 and 308)
308 I think has an advantage in energy. Also some hunters prefer the larger round. Maybe more bullet selection?(not sure of that)
6.5 is better for precision that is for sure.
308 I think has an advantage in energy. Also some hunters prefer the larger round. Maybe more bullet selection?(not sure of that)
6.5 is better for precision that is for sure.
INB4 308 is major overkill for HD.
Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
I like it, but 60 cpr is nice too.6.5C Match seems to cost about as much as FGMM.http://www.sgammo.com/catalog/rifle-...creedmoor-ammo
Originally Posted By pinhooker⏩
Says the guy who claims you can chamber and fire a 6.5c round in a firearm chambered in .308just lol at how stupid you are
and never had a ftf and a reloaded round
and never had a ftf and a reloaded round
I like how you try to refute the claim .308 is more destructive than 5.56 by changing things around to "match 6.5c is better for long range shooting than match .308" too
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09-10-2016, 10:36 PM
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Intradesting. I've always wanted to get rid of my FSB and put a longer rail on, like 14-15". Might as well throw a new gas on too.
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09-10-2016, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted By TylerA120⏩
oh this will be goodIntradesting. I've always wanted to get rid of my FSB and put a longer rail on, like 14-15". Might as well throw a new gas on too.
dual gas master race
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09-10-2016, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted By EQUlLIBRIUM⏩
I'll find a way to macgyver this too.oh this will be good
dual gas master race
dual gas master race
Or I'll ask Ike to refer me to his gunsmith.
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09-10-2016, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
1. you cannot prove with any level of credibility that factory loaded ammunition has less FTFs than someone's reloadsAgree with bold, but for reliability it seems unwise to run reloads in a firearm you'd be using for self defense/HD.
INB4 308 is major overkill for HD.
I like it, but 60 cpr is nice too.
Says the guy who claims you can chamber and fire a 6.5c round in a firearm chambered in .308
I like how you try to refute the claim .308 is more destructive than 5.56 by changing things around to "match 6.5c is better for long range shooting than match .308" too
INB4 308 is major overkill for HD.
I like it, but 60 cpr is nice too.
Says the guy who claims you can chamber and fire a 6.5c round in a firearm chambered in .308
I like how you try to refute the claim .308 is more destructive than 5.56 by changing things around to "match 6.5c is better for long range shooting than match .308" too
2. so 60 cpr ammo is referring to chitty 2-4 moa ammo? what is the point of shooting large frame inaccurate ammo?
3. yes i am totally saying you can put a 6.5C round into a 308 wylde chambered AR and shoot it without issue lol
4. lets go over the past events
i originally state: literally offers zero ballistic advantage over 223 at 2-3 times the cost....i think most people with 46 chromosomes would assume im referring to the round's properties while in flight but thats ok, i'll let it slide
you claim: it "will fuk sh_t up", referring to some real world application of shooting live mammals
i state: its stupid to shoot 308 out of a large frame AR when you can shoot a much better round out of the same frame
you: babble about how my reloaded rounds are less reliable than some factory 2-4 MOA ammo
i just get a good chuckle about trying to argue some real world "fuks sh_t up" argument for 308 when I'd bet every damn magazine and box of ammo i own that you fukkin shoot at paper targets off of a wooden bench at the range, printing no better than 3 MOA
what are you "destroying" that warrants 308 over other superior performing rounds?
09-10-2016, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted By pinhooker⏩
TL;DR1. you cannot prove with any level of credibility that factory loaded ammunition has less FTFs than someone's reloads
2. so 60 cpr ammo is referring to chitty 2-4 moa ammo? what is the point of shooting large frame inaccurate ammo?
3. yes i am totally saying you can put a 6.5C round into a 308 wylde chambered AR and shoot it without issue lol
4. lets go over the past events
i originally state: literally offers zero ballistic advantage over 223 at 2-3 times the cost....i think most people with 46 chromosomes would assume im referring to the round's properties while in flight but thats ok, i'll let it slide
you claim: it "will fuk sh_t up", referring to some real world application of shooting live mammals
i state: its stupid to shoot 308 out of a large frame AR when you can shoot a much better round out of the same frame
you: babble about how my reloaded rounds are less reliable than some factory 2-4 MOA ammo
i just get a good chuckle about trying to argue some real world "fuks sh_t up" argument for 308 when I'd bet every damn magazine and box of ammo i own that you fukkin shoot at paper targets off of a wooden bench at the range, printing no better than 3 MOA
what are you "destroying" that warrants 308 over other superior performing rounds?
2. so 60 cpr ammo is referring to chitty 2-4 moa ammo? what is the point of shooting large frame inaccurate ammo?
3. yes i am totally saying you can put a 6.5C round into a 308 wylde chambered AR and shoot it without issue lol
4. lets go over the past events
i originally state: literally offers zero ballistic advantage over 223 at 2-3 times the cost....i think most people with 46 chromosomes would assume im referring to the round's properties while in flight but thats ok, i'll let it slide
you claim: it "will fuk sh_t up", referring to some real world application of shooting live mammals
i state: its stupid to shoot 308 out of a large frame AR when you can shoot a much better round out of the same frame
you: babble about how my reloaded rounds are less reliable than some factory 2-4 MOA ammo
i just get a good chuckle about trying to argue some real world "fuks sh_t up" argument for 308 when I'd bet every damn magazine and box of ammo i own that you fukkin shoot at paper targets off of a wooden bench at the range, printing no better than 3 MOA
what are you "destroying" that warrants 308 over other superior performing rounds?
go smoke another bowl you tard.
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09-10-2016, 10:54 PM
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Milo triggering the shiit out of these SJWs. You can just see it all over their faces.
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09-10-2016, 11:09 PM
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09-10-2016, 11:13 PM
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[QUOTE=YourGunShowTix post_id=1461692253]Milo triggering the shiit out of these SJWs. You can just see it all over their faces.
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09-10-2016, 11:21 PM
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09-10-2016, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted By EQUlLIBRIUM⏩
.223 does not meet minimum caliber requirements (.23 or .24, for example) for deer hunting in half dozen or more states. the laws may have changed in some relatively recently, I don't know, but it wasn't necessarily a hunter preference for .308 over .223, just the laws.just checking in to say, in 1k plus reloads, I have never had a FTF. (223 and 308)
308 I think has an advantage in energy. Also some hunters prefer the larger round. Maybe more bullet selection?(not sure of that)
6.5 is better for precision that is for sure.
308 I think has an advantage in energy. Also some hunters prefer the larger round. Maybe more bullet selection?(not sure of that)
6.5 is better for precision that is for sure.
edit: now not sure if you were saying preference to .308 over .223 or 6.5c. disregard post ty
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Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
laws regarding what you can shoot deer with, but not people.223 does not meet minimum caliber requirements (.23 or .24, for example) for deer hunting in half dozen or more states. the laws may have changed in some relatively recently, I don't know, but it wasn't necessarily a hunter preference for .308 over .223, just the laws.
edit: now not sure if you were saying preference to .308 over .223 or 6.5c. disregard post ty
edit: now not sure if you were saying preference to .308 over .223 or 6.5c. disregard post ty
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Originally Posted By 4ea⏩
I don't understand why you're bringing up cheap machine gun ammo when people are discussing precision rifles.Agree with bold, but for reliability it seems unwise to run reloads in a firearm you'd be using for self defense/HD.
INB4 308 is major overkill for HD.
I like it, but 60 cpr is nice too.
Says the guy who claims you can chamber and fire a 6.5c round in a firearm chambered in .308
I like how you try to refute the claim .308 is more destructive than 5.56 by changing things around to "match 6.5c is better for long range shooting than match .308" too
INB4 308 is major overkill for HD.
I like it, but 60 cpr is nice too.
Says the guy who claims you can chamber and fire a 6.5c round in a firearm chambered in .308
I like how you try to refute the claim .308 is more destructive than 5.56 by changing things around to "match 6.5c is better for long range shooting than match .308" too
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Originally Posted By OfficerJimLahey⏩
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