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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
quick question: if russia does have a heavy supply of missiles like misc claims, which im not really doubting im sure they do, why are they getting missiles from iran and north korea lol?

Oleksiy Melnyk, director of the Razumkov Center in Kyiv, told the Financial Times: “Trying to predict that Russia will one day run out of missiles is probably not a good strategy.” And Ukrainian “strategists” like Podolyak, Arestovich, and Danilov keep counting when the Russians will run out of missiles!
People ITT should stop claiming this, it doesn't change reality. Even in Kiev, they finally say this
Originally Posted By chalup⏩
I wouldn't expect the cheerleader from Tennessee to know who that man is. You aren't from Ukraine, nor are you even a Slav.He is so well known, the google hits when you google his name are 4 different websites with this video on it.
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12-14-2022, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba⏩
I said all the ones in Kiev got shot down you mongoloid.Chalupa already said all the drones got shot down. Ukie retards need to get better at where they shoot their missiles at.
12-14-2022, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
Oleksiy Melnyk, director of the Razumkov Center in Kyiv, told the Financial Times: “Trying to predict that Russia will one day run out of missiles is probably not a good strategy.” And Ukrainian “strategists” like Podolyak, Arestovich, and Danilov keep counting when the Russians will run out of missiles!
People ITT should stop claiming this, it doesn't change reality. Even in Kiev, they finally say this
Russia run out of missiles yet? Heard they were close to running out back in march. Anybody? Any got a new NY Times article on the subject?
Oleksiy Melnyk, director of the Razumkov Center in Kyiv, told the Financial Times: “Trying to predict that Russia will one day run out of missiles is probably not a good strategy.” And Ukrainian “strategists” like Podolyak, Arestovich, and Danilov keep counting when the Russians will run out of missiles!
People ITT should stop claiming this, it doesn't change reality. Even in Kiev, they finally say this
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Now do Russia's MIA!Big ukrainian victory:
The personnel center of the Armed Forces of Ukraine announced in top secret the number of dead Ukrainian soldiers who were declared missing - 35,382 people. These are military personnel whose bodies were left on the battlefield - they were not taken home and were not buried. And their families will not receive compensation because they are "missing."
The number from the certificate sent to the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Lieutenant General Sergei Shaptala. Whose official archive was hacked by Russian hackers from the Anarchist Kombatant group. Attached to the letter is a complete list of all the dead but missing servicemen as of November 30, 2022. Most of the ground forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - 667 sheets with names, surnames and dates of birth. Further, the defense (546 sheets), air assault troops (398), special operations forces (316) and representatives of the Navy (242 sheets).
The personnel center of the Armed Forces of Ukraine announced in top secret the number of dead Ukrainian soldiers who were declared missing - 35,382 people. These are military personnel whose bodies were left on the battlefield - they were not taken home and were not buried. And their families will not receive compensation because they are "missing."
The number from the certificate sent to the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Lieutenant General Sergei Shaptala. Whose official archive was hacked by Russian hackers from the Anarchist Kombatant group. Attached to the letter is a complete list of all the dead but missing servicemen as of November 30, 2022. Most of the ground forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine - 667 sheets with names, surnames and dates of birth. Further, the defense (546 sheets), air assault troops (398), special operations forces (316) and representatives of the Navy (242 sheets).
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
Oleksiy Melnyk, director of the Razumkov Center in Kyiv, told the Financial Times: “Trying to predict that Russia will one day run out of missiles is probably not a good strategy.” And Ukrainian “strategists” like Podolyak, Arestovich, and Danilov keep counting when the Russians will run out of missiles!
People ITT should stop claiming this, it doesn't change reality. Even in Kiev, they finally say this
I wouldn't expect the cheerleader from Tennessee to know who that man is. You aren't from Ukraine, nor are you even a Slav.
im not saying they are, im asking why they need missiles from iran and north korea?
Oleksiy Melnyk, director of the Razumkov Center in Kyiv, told the Financial Times: “Trying to predict that Russia will one day run out of missiles is probably not a good strategy.” And Ukrainian “strategists” like Podolyak, Arestovich, and Danilov keep counting when the Russians will run out of missiles!
People ITT should stop claiming this, it doesn't change reality. Even in Kiev, they finally say this
I wouldn't expect the cheerleader from Tennessee to know who that man is. You aren't from Ukraine, nor are you even a Slav.
12-14-2022, 11:40 AM
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https://www.newsweek.com/russian-com...ne-war-1766882
Russian commander admitting Russia has limited resources and cannot win the war without using nukes.
Lmfao chit tier military confirmed.
Lmao at vatniks serious. Here on Misc 'heRrrRrrrRrrr Roosia has unlimited SuPEr Hypers00Nics WeepUns!!!'
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Russian commander admitting Russia has limited resources and cannot win the war without using nukes.
Lmfao chit tier military confirmed.
Lmao at vatniks serious. Here on Misc 'heRrrRrrrRrrr Roosia has unlimited SuPEr Hypers00Nics WeepUns!!!'
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
It's approximately 350Now do Russia's MIA!
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Lmfao, gold:
It's Ratzi technology (all of it stolen and cobbled together by full time drunks) so most won't work properly. Remember this is a 'nation' that couldn't synchronize five rings descending from the roof of a stadium during the Olympics.
It's Ratzi technology (all of it stolen and cobbled together by full time drunks) so most won't work properly. Remember this is a 'nation' that couldn't synchronize five rings descending from the roof of a stadium during the Olympics.
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Originally Posted By soycop⏩
Are any Vatniks ITT going to respond to this? Is he lying? Did he hurt your feelings? Tell us how you feel boyos.https://www.newsweek.com/russian-com...ne-war-1766882
Russian commander admitting Russia has limited resources and cannot win the war without using nukes.
Lmfao chit tier military confirmed.
Lmao at vatniks serious. Here on Misc 'heRrrRrrrRrrr Roosia has unlimited SuPEr Hypers00Nics WeepUns!!!'
Kalibr!
Russian commander admitting Russia has limited resources and cannot win the war without using nukes.
Lmfao chit tier military confirmed.
Lmao at vatniks serious. Here on Misc 'heRrrRrrrRrrr Roosia has unlimited SuPEr Hypers00Nics WeepUns!!!'
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Seems Ukraine let Wagner into outskirts of Bakmut to fuk them up hugely.
hold me vatniks, I'm not feeling so good. these guys got fukking MURKED. Meanwhile we got idiot vatniks ITT bragging about durka durka drones, lol!
watch at YOUR OWN RISK
Spoiler!
Apparently Russian officials are so broke they are giving KIA families cakes for their deaths..
hold me vatniks, I'm not feeling so good. these guys got fukking MURKED. Meanwhile we got idiot vatniks ITT bragging about durka durka drones, lol!
watch at YOUR OWN RISK
Spoiler!
Apparently Russian officials are so broke they are giving KIA families cakes for their deaths..
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Originally Posted By soycop⏩
LmfaoLmfao, gold:
It's Ratzi technology (all of it stolen and cobbled together by full time drunks) so most won't work properly. Remember this is a 'nation' that couldn't synchronize five rings descending from the roof of a stadium during the Olympics.
It's Ratzi technology (all of it stolen and cobbled together by full time drunks) so most won't work properly. Remember this is a 'nation' that couldn't synchronize five rings descending from the roof of a stadium during the Olympics.
Fake veteran / stolen Valor still posting
**** like this happens when your own 'family' doesn't provide you with the attention required on a day to day basis
Tough
12-14-2022, 12:06 PM
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Interesting thread from a RAND corporation researcher
I've observed some differences in the operation since Surovikin was appointed overall commander – mostly a steadier hand. Surovikin is many things, he is not incompetent. He’s probably the most competent commander Russia has put in place so far
When Surovikin took over in October, the Kharkiv front collapsed, Russia had just ordered mobilization, some Russian officials were considering nuclear use, With too many objectives and too many broken units, the front was in trouble
Surovikin's first task was to move troops across the Dnipro river out of western Kherson, which was done under fire with few Russian casualties. Losing what remained of Russia’s VDV and others would have been not only a morale blow but impacted overall fighting power
During that operation, I saw a few predictions on here that the withdrawal across the river would end in a Russian forces’ bloodbath, it did not. Those forces have been moved around to other areas of the front now
The second characteristic I notice under Surovikin’s command is better prepared positions. Surovikin ordered network of trenches and defensive positions to be built in many areas, as Russia transitions to an overall defensive position through the winter
Surovikin’s Operational Group South was the only sector that seemed to properly prepare a network of positions, so he’s bringing this style with him as commander. These lines were noticed by Ukrainian forces and some said it made counteroffensives difficult.
Third: the precision strike campaign against Ukrainian infrastructure is terrible and it is effective, impacting water and electricity for millions of Ukrainians. Unfortunately, these concepts are cooked into some aspects of Russian military strategy.
In Russian strategy, strikes against critical infrastructure (and other mil targets) happen at the start of war for weeks-month+ before ground forces are committed. didn’t happen here likely due to political decisions, i.e., Moscow assuming it could install a new govt.
RAND research paper on Russian strategy:
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_r...RRA1233-1.html
I've observed some differences in the operation since Surovikin was appointed overall commander – mostly a steadier hand. Surovikin is many things, he is not incompetent. He’s probably the most competent commander Russia has put in place so far
When Surovikin took over in October, the Kharkiv front collapsed, Russia had just ordered mobilization, some Russian officials were considering nuclear use, With too many objectives and too many broken units, the front was in trouble
Surovikin's first task was to move troops across the Dnipro river out of western Kherson, which was done under fire with few Russian casualties. Losing what remained of Russia’s VDV and others would have been not only a morale blow but impacted overall fighting power
During that operation, I saw a few predictions on here that the withdrawal across the river would end in a Russian forces’ bloodbath, it did not. Those forces have been moved around to other areas of the front now
The second characteristic I notice under Surovikin’s command is better prepared positions. Surovikin ordered network of trenches and defensive positions to be built in many areas, as Russia transitions to an overall defensive position through the winter
Surovikin’s Operational Group South was the only sector that seemed to properly prepare a network of positions, so he’s bringing this style with him as commander. These lines were noticed by Ukrainian forces and some said it made counteroffensives difficult.
Third: the precision strike campaign against Ukrainian infrastructure is terrible and it is effective, impacting water and electricity for millions of Ukrainians. Unfortunately, these concepts are cooked into some aspects of Russian military strategy.
In Russian strategy, strikes against critical infrastructure (and other mil targets) happen at the start of war for weeks-month+ before ground forces are committed. didn’t happen here likely due to political decisions, i.e., Moscow assuming it could install a new govt.
RAND research paper on Russian strategy:
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_r...RRA1233-1.html
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Yeah, keep using 2–3-million-dollar missiles to shoot down 50k drones.Apparently ALL durka durka drones were shot done before reaching targets in Kiev, lmao.
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Evidence of children tortured in Kherson while occupied by Russians.
https://kyivindependent.com/news-fee...erated-kherson
https://kyivindependent.com/news-fee...erated-kherson
12-14-2022, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
No, that isn't what he said.He said if the war escalates to a direct confrontation with NATO, that they couldn't defeat the NATO bloc without conventional means in which case nuclear weapons would deployed.
Nice try!
Nice try!
"We don't have the ability—we're a country which is now fighting the entire Western world, and we don't have the resources to defeat the NATO bloc with conventional means," he said. "But we have nuclear weapons for that. We built them specially for such situations. That is why there is only one option."
He literally states right here they are already fighting the entire Western world, referencing NATO. lmao you are trying to twist dudes own words so as not to look as pathetic as it does, truly amazing.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Some more copium hoping the new guy in charge will change the course of this war. You are literally admitting Russia completely fukked up at the beginning of this war BTW if you agree with this paper.Interesting thread from a RAND corporation researcher
I've observed some differences in the operation since Surovikin was appointed overall commander – mostly a steadier hand. Surovikin is many things, he is not incompetent. He’s probably the most competent commander Russia has put in place so far
When Surovikin took over in October, the Kharkiv front collapsed, Russia had just ordered mobilization, some Russian officials were considering nuclear use, With too many objectives and too many broken units, the front was in trouble
Surovikin's first task was to move troops across the Dnipro river out of western Kherson, which was done under fire with few Russian casualties. Losing what remained of Russia’s VDV and others would have been not only a morale blow but impacted overall fighting power
During that operation, I saw a few predictions on here that the withdrawal across the river would end in a Russian forces’ bloodbath, it did not. Those forces have been moved around to other areas of the front now
The second characteristic I notice under Surovikin’s command is better prepared positions. Surovikin ordered network of trenches and defensive positions to be built in many areas, as Russia transitions to an overall defensive position through the winter
Surovikin’s Operational Group South was the only sector that seemed to properly prepare a network of positions, so he’s bringing this style with him as commander. These lines were noticed by Ukrainian forces and some said it made counteroffensives difficult.
Third: the precision strike campaign against Ukrainian infrastructure is terrible and it is effective, impacting water and electricity for millions of Ukrainians. Unfortunately, these concepts are cooked into some aspects of Russian military strategy.
In Russian strategy, strikes against critical infrastructure (and other mil targets) happen at the start of war for weeks-month+ before ground forces are committed. didn’t happen here likely due to political decisions, i.e., Moscow assuming it could install a new govt.
RAND research paper on Russian strategy:
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_r...RRA1233-1.html
I've observed some differences in the operation since Surovikin was appointed overall commander – mostly a steadier hand. Surovikin is many things, he is not incompetent. He’s probably the most competent commander Russia has put in place so far
When Surovikin took over in October, the Kharkiv front collapsed, Russia had just ordered mobilization, some Russian officials were considering nuclear use, With too many objectives and too many broken units, the front was in trouble
Surovikin's first task was to move troops across the Dnipro river out of western Kherson, which was done under fire with few Russian casualties. Losing what remained of Russia’s VDV and others would have been not only a morale blow but impacted overall fighting power
During that operation, I saw a few predictions on here that the withdrawal across the river would end in a Russian forces’ bloodbath, it did not. Those forces have been moved around to other areas of the front now
The second characteristic I notice under Surovikin’s command is better prepared positions. Surovikin ordered network of trenches and defensive positions to be built in many areas, as Russia transitions to an overall defensive position through the winter
Surovikin’s Operational Group South was the only sector that seemed to properly prepare a network of positions, so he’s bringing this style with him as commander. These lines were noticed by Ukrainian forces and some said it made counteroffensives difficult.
Third: the precision strike campaign against Ukrainian infrastructure is terrible and it is effective, impacting water and electricity for millions of Ukrainians. Unfortunately, these concepts are cooked into some aspects of Russian military strategy.
In Russian strategy, strikes against critical infrastructure (and other mil targets) happen at the start of war for weeks-month+ before ground forces are committed. didn’t happen here likely due to political decisions, i.e., Moscow assuming it could install a new govt.
RAND research paper on Russian strategy:
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_r...RRA1233-1.html
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Russia has multiple fuk ups. This is actual research, not cope. They're not pro Russia, you're just too emotional and too stupid to figure out the difference.Some more copium hoping the new guy in charge will change the course of this war. You are literally admitting Russia completely fukked up at the beginning of this war BTW if you agree with this paper.
RAND published a paper back in 2018 or 2019 saying that if we keep militarizing Ukraine Russia will definitely invade btw. They know what they're talking about.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Strong “evidence”.Evidence of children tortured in Kherson while occupied by Russians.
https://kyivindependent.com/news-fee...erated-kherson
https://kyivindependent.com/news-fee...erated-kherson
Do you read the articles, or just the headlines?
Every day you come into this thread, sperg out like an emotional female and prove to everyone why you are king retard
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12-14-2022, 12:23 PM
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Ukies have been desperately trying to cut off the Russian Supply Highway between Svatove and Lysychansk for well over 2 1/2 months.They almost accomplished it on October 19th, but have run into a meat grinder ever since
Tens of Thousands of Ukies and Tens of Thousands of pieces of Ukie Equipment have been obliterated trying to capture the highway in just the last 2 months. Now with more and more brand new Lancet 3 Drones and Ultra Long Range Tornado S Guided Rocket Artillery Systems arriving to and near the front lines, the Ukies are in for a WORLD OF HURT with Ukie Soldier's death tolls and equipment losses skyrocketing.
October 19th

December 13th

Tens of Thousands of Ukies and Tens of Thousands of pieces of Ukie Equipment have been obliterated trying to capture the highway in just the last 2 months. Now with more and more brand new Lancet 3 Drones and Ultra Long Range Tornado S Guided Rocket Artillery Systems arriving to and near the front lines, the Ukies are in for a WORLD OF HURT with Ukie Soldier's death tolls and equipment losses skyrocketing.
October 19th

December 13th

12-14-2022, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
brutalseems ukraine let wagner into outskirts of bakmut to fuk them up hugely.
hold me vatniks, i'm not feeling so good. These guys got fukking murked. Meanwhile we got idiot vatniks itt bragging about durka durka drones, lol!
Watch at your own risk
Spoiler!
apparently russian officials are so broke they are giving kia families cakes for their deaths..
hold me vatniks, i'm not feeling so good. These guys got fukking murked. Meanwhile we got idiot vatniks itt bragging about durka durka drones, lol!
Watch at your own risk
Spoiler!
apparently russian officials are so broke they are giving kia families cakes for their deaths..
vatniks wots happeninggggggggggggg??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
Sperg out? I come in here every couple of days with actual sources and post them. That is sperging out? What is it then when Vatniks post ITT making up death rates of Ukrainians in the millions? Posting retarded info with literally no source at all, you are perfectly fine with that and don’t consider it sperging out?Strong “evidence”.
Do you read the articles, or just the headlines?
Every day you come into this thread, sperg out like an emotional female and prove to everyone why you are king retard
Do you read the articles, or just the headlines?
Every day you come into this thread, sperg out like an emotional female and prove to everyone why you are king retard
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Bagel having a mental break down he can’t handle it, says I’m “sperging” out for posting actual sources, lel.brutal
vatniks wots happeninggggggggggggg??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
vatniks wots happeninggggggggggggg??????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Actual “sources” ayyLMAOSperg out? I come in here every couple of days with actual sources and post them. That is sperging out? What is it then when Vatniks post ITT making up death rates of Ukrainians in the millions? Posting retarded info with literally no source at all, you are perfectly fine with that and don’t consider it sperging out?
https://kyivindependent.com/news-fee...erated-kherson
Actual “evidence” ayyLMAO
King retard gonna retard
I've also never bothered to talk about the death count. I'm not going to make guesses, and I personally think we won't truly know the real number till long after this war is over. For both sides. What the other fellow vatnik bros post/do is up to them.
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
https://www.yahoo.com/now/children-t...161200270.htmlActual “sources” ayyLMAO
https://kyivindependent.com/news-fee...erated-kherson
Actual “evidence” ayyLMAO
King retard gonna retard
I've also never bothered to talk about the death count. I'm not going to make guesses, and I personally think we won't truly know the real number till long after this war is over. For both sides. What the other fellow vatnik bros post/do is up to them.
https://kyivindependent.com/news-fee...erated-kherson
Actual “evidence” ayyLMAO
King retard gonna retard
I've also never bothered to talk about the death count. I'm not going to make guesses, and I personally think we won't truly know the real number till long after this war is over. For both sides. What the other fellow vatnik bros post/do is up to them.
https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/12/14...hild-prisoners
Yes, my sources are 10x better than Stizzile posting jpegs with lines across them or writing his own articles with zero links backing it up.
12-14-2022, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
I know you can't read or swim, buuuttt...He said if the war escalates to a direct confrontation with NATO, that they couldn't defeat the NATO bloc without conventional means in which case nuclear weapons would deployed.
Nice try!
Nice try!
"A Russian commander suggested that using nuclear weapons may be the only way Russia can be victorious in its war against Ukraine."
12-14-2022, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Fuark strong sources. Mirinhttps://www.yahoo.com/now/children-t...161200270.html
https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/12/14...hild-prisoners
Yes, my sources are 10x better than Stizzile posting jpegs with lines across them or writing his own articles with zero links backing it up.
https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/12/14...hild-prisoners
Yes, my sources are 10x better than Stizzile posting jpegs with lines across them or writing his own articles with zero links backing it up.
These are the same sources who claimed Russia was supposed to be out of missiles months ago...
I don't think you understand what “evidence” actually is/means. King retard
https://imgur.com/a/45QIxhg“sources”
Originally Posted By soycop⏩
They aren't my sources dumbass, I repost videos on YouTube that I find from ******** channels that I feel are important/good. I only post these videos ITT for the rest of miscers/lurkers. If I could embed it straight from ********, I would....coming from the cuck who posts his own 2 sub YT channel as "sources"...
Fuk you russians are dumb....
Fuk you russians are dumb....
Don't like them, don't watch. ayyLMAO
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12-14-2022, 12:50 PM
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#8190
Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
...coming from the cuck who posts his own 2 sub YT channel as "sources"...Fuark strong sources. Mirin
These are the same sources who claimed Russia was supposed to be out of missiles months ago...
I don't think you understand what “evidence” actually is/means. King retard
https://imgur.com/a/45QIxhg“sources”
These are the same sources who claimed Russia was supposed to be out of missiles months ago...
I don't think you understand what “evidence” actually is/means. King retard
https://imgur.com/a/45QIxhg“sources”
Fuk you russians are dumb....
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