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03-05-2024, 06:43 PM
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FTM people would be looking to have test levels similar to those of men on TRT. As mentioned above, it would likely require lower doses.

Presumably, the physician prescribing and monitoring GAHT for a FTM patient would be aware of the recommended levels.
So the loss of the ability to have children and produce breast milk
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03-05-2024, 06:44 PM
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Those are listed in the first table as well.
It's reversible in men..and men don't produce breast milk.
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03-05-2024, 06:46 PM
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So the loss of the ability to have children and produce breast milk
Yeah, those are risks. Just like they are on TRT and HRT.
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03-05-2024, 06:47 PM
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Not to mention, if a woman is receiving hormone therapy and goes in with levels elevated outside of the ranges for females the doctor will drop her dose down due to the risks associated with having levels outside of the range(much less getting up to around the higher levels of a biological male). But if she says she identifies as a male they’ll take her levels to the moon. How can a patient say magic words(like “I identify as a male”) that completely changes their risk profile?



But again, and I feel like a broken record at this point….he realizes this and simply wants to troll.
Next, he'll be claiming that fake penis they get attached to their lower abdomen looks like an actual penis…..
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03-05-2024, 06:48 PM
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It's reversible in men..and men don't produce breast milk.
No. Not always.

Try googling "failed restart".

Also "gynecomastia discharge"

Trans women and men who want kids probably don't go on GAHT nor have surgery.
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03-05-2024, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Yeah, those are risks. Just like they are on TRT and HRT.
But it's not a risk in males for TRT because it's reversible in men and men cannot produce breast milk
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03-05-2024, 06:49 PM
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First table shows the risk profile.
They will literally dry up, and grow pubic hair in the vagina canal.
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03-05-2024, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
No.

Try googling "failed restart".

Also "gynecomastia discharge"

Trans women and men who want kids probably don't go on GAHT nor have surgery.
LOOOL."gynecomastia discharge" is not breast milk..now I know you are a troll

But also..

"It’s common for men on TRT to experience significantly diminished fertility and to struggle with conceiving due to low or zero sperm count. This is how men can become sterile by taking testosterone. In most cases, this infertility is temporary. The effects can be reversed by stopping TRT and waiting for sperm and internal testosterone levels to rise again. This process can take six weeks, six months, or a couple of years.

https://www.bodylogicmd.com/blog/doe...e-infertility/
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03-05-2024, 06:54 PM
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Next, he'll be claiming that fake penis they get attached to their lower abdomen looks like an actual penis…..
I have no idea what they look like. But you do you
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03-05-2024, 06:56 PM
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I have no idea what they look like. But you do you
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03-05-2024, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
LOOOL."gynecomastia discharge" is not breast milk..now I know you are a troll

But also..

"It’s common for men on TRT to experience significantly diminished fertility and to struggle with conceiving due to low or zero sperm count. This is how men can become sterile by taking testosterone. In most cases, this infertility is temporary. The effects can be reversed by stopping TRT and waiting for sperm and internal testosterone levels to rise again. This process can take six weeks, six months, or a couple of years.

https://www.bodylogicmd.com/blog/doe...e-infertility/
Right. Like I said, take a look at failed restarts. More common than you might think and why docs counsel that it's for life and ask about family planning before beginning.
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03-05-2024, 06:59 PM
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At the end of the day, I feel everyone should have the same access to care and make informed decisions for themselves.
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03-05-2024, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Right. Like I said, take a look at failed restarts. More common than you might think and why docs counsel that it's for life and ask about family planning before beginning.

Not as common as you think, and most typically reversible when stopping treatment. As far whatever oozes out of a man's nipple, I assure you, it's not the same as a mother's milk lol
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03-05-2024, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
Not as common as you think, and most typically reversible when stopping treatment. As far whatever oozes out of a man's nipple, I assure you, it's not the same as a mother's milk lol
Witch's milk

Testosterone Is a Contraceptive and Should Not Be Used in Men Who Desire Fertility

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6305868/
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03-05-2024, 08:40 PM
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At the end of the day, I feel everyone should have the same access to care and make informed decisions for themselves.
Why should we pay for their meds and their surgery???
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03-06-2024, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Witch's milk

Testosterone Is a Contraceptive and Should Not Be Used in Men Who Desire Fertility

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6305868/
But it’s reversible in males.


From your link…

“All men in these studies recovered to baseline levels after cessation of therapy; however, it took up to 2 years for some men to recover.”
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03-06-2024, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul Kreul⏩
But it’s reversible in males.


From your link…

“All men in these studies recovered to baseline levels after cessation of therapy; however, it took up to 2 years for some men to recover.”
"Considering that there is abundant evidence demonstrating that TRT significantly decreases sperm production, it is important that clinicians consider the evidenced risks of male infertility before starting patients on TRT. It can be surprising to patients that testosterone can suppress fertility, in contrary to its stimulatory effects on libido and erectile function. The patient's desire for fertility must be discussed in depth and established prior to initiating testosterone"

Add for trans men, the evidence suggests that if Sissy reversible.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6626312/

Regardless, I feel everyone should have the same opportunity to make an informed decision rather than have it make for them by politicians.
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03-06-2024, 08:51 AM
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Listen to what the former head of FBI Los Angeles has to say about this subject



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03-06-2024, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
"Considering that there is abundant evidence demonstrating that TRT significantly decreases sperm production, it is important that clinicians consider the evidenced risks of male infertility before starting patients on TRT. It can be surprising to patients that testosterone can suppress fertility, in contrary to its stimulatory effects on libido and erectile function. The patient's desire for fertility must be discussed in depth and established prior to initiating testosterone"

Add for trans men, the evidence suggests that if Sissy reversible.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6626312/

Regardless, I feel everyone should have the same opportunity to make an informed decision rather than have it make for them by politicians.
Everyone should have the opportunity to make an informed decision.

Like children and pre-teens?
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03-06-2024, 09:51 AM
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Everyone should have the opportunity to make an informed decision.

Like children and pre-teens?
GAHT isn't typically recommended for children and or pre-teens. Children and pre-teens aren't typically able to make medical decisions without parental involvement/consent.
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03-06-2024, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
"Considering that there is abundant evidence demonstrating that TRT significantly decreases sperm production, it is important that clinicians consider the evidenced risks of male infertility before starting patients on TRT. It can be surprising to patients that testosterone can suppress fertility, in contrary to its stimulatory effects on libido and erectile function. The patient's desire for fertility must be discussed in depth and established prior to initiating testosterone"

Add for trans men, the evidence suggests that if Sissy reversible.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6626312/

Regardless, I feel everyone should have the same opportunity to make an informed decision rather than have it make for them by politicians.
But it’s reversible in males.


From your link…

“All men in these studies recovered to baseline levels after cessation of therapy; however, it took up to 2 years for some men to recover.”
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03-06-2024, 04:29 PM
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But it’s reversible in males.


From your link…

“All men in these studies recovered to baseline levels after cessation of therapy; however, it took up to 2 years for some men to recover.”
And in females
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03-06-2024, 04:51 PM
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And in females
Not Chloe Cole..
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03-06-2024, 04:52 PM
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Not Chloe Cole..
And not all males
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03-06-2024, 04:54 PM
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How many r&pers would let lady boy lover bodhy be alone with their kids?
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03-06-2024, 04:54 PM
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And not all males
But males don’t produce breast milk..
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03-06-2024, 04:59 PM
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But males don’t produce breast milk..
Water is wet.
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03-06-2024, 06:15 PM
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Water is wet.
KY lawmaker criticized for implying ****philes could benefit from ‘child sex dolls’

https://www.kentucky.com/news/politi...286225230.html

Your opinion?
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03-06-2024, 11:24 PM
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Water is wet.

A “transgender woman” can never be a woman.
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03-07-2024, 04:18 AM
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A “transgender woman” can never be a woman.
That's why you think trans people shouldn't have access to GAHT?
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