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Thread: Russia vs Ukraine Thread VII- Frozen mud pie edition: Come meet the bots and shills

post 1673329563 12-22-2022, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
“Macron says Ukraine joining NATO is unlikely and warns of dangerous consequences if it does”


Sorry Ukrops, you can die for the EU and NATO, but you can't join the club…ayyLMAO
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
“Macron says Ukraine joining NATO is unlikely and warns of dangerous consequences if it does”


Sorry Ukrops, you can die for the EU and NATO, but you can't join the club…ayyLMAO
lol implying that ukraine was ever going to join either EU or NATO...

nato policy clearly states no country can join if it has territorial disputes. and even if that was not the case, how the fuk would you ever get every nato country to vote yes on membership for a country like ukraine? you would have to do some 700 IQ Grandmaster gary kasparov diplomacy.

they gave them EU "candidacy" as some BS gesture. the balkan non EU countries like serbia and albania have been EU "candidates" for like 160 years now, if they cant get in how the fuk is ukraine?
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Vatniks coping with "captain obvious" news/10


They want to diverge attention from them losing in Bakhmut for 4+ months now...SAD!
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
As it is right now, I don't see it falling.
LOL

Fukin chalupa, never change
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Originally Posted By BrianBerletic⏩
memcop: " ThErE Are ONlY 1,000 WaGNEwr BeATing TenS Of ThoSUAndS of UktrREANIANAs "


Fukking mullet-headed idiot.
It's hilarious, I can find video evidence of them losing hundreds in a matter of minutes. Yet he wants to say there is a couple of thousand total. Sure.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...ner_unit_near/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...rate_indirect/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...n_a_ditch_are/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...khmut_ukraine/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota..._eliminated_a/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota..._by_ukrainian/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...flank_the_afu/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...oldier_around/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...r_mortar_fire/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...issance_units/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...ites_continue/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota..._skala_filmed/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...s_into_a_mine/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...snopol_guided/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...aeger_brigade/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...ine_ukrainian/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...ed_by_ua_30th/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...d_the_bakhmut/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota..._aerorozvidka/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...soldiers_with/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...d_the_bakhmut/
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Originally Posted By exxtracool⏩
They need stuff more than people. Ukrainians have been fighting the russians with mostly soviet era antiques and some nato weapons sprinkled in. The nato weapons and intel provided have made a big difference dont get me wrong, but realistically they need more of it.


Honestly though, long term, this is a losing effort from the russians imo. They are attempting to hold onto a portion of the country like the US did in vietnam. Its too difficult a task. You either invade to take the capital and decapitate command, or you occupy and eat counter offensive every so often until they inevitably break through.


What they need to do is mobilize fully, pressure belarus into joining, enable war economy, then try again to attack kyiv from the north.
This. I can't figure out WTF their long term goal is now. The only thing that makes any kind of sense is to try and take Kiev again hoping Ukraine as a whole will surrender if Kiev falls. But Ukraine has had way too long to fortify Kiev and its surrounding area, there is zero chance they take it like Mariupol, nobody would support them destroying it like they did Mauripol in the first place.

The extremely scary thing is neither side seems like they will make concessions, there will be no peace with Russia in Donbas/Mauripol/Crimea for Ukrainians. Russia isn't going to just give these back, so what happens? These two Country's continue to fight until they completely wipe out their young men to make future generations? I can understand why Ukraine would fight to their last man, but I don't get Russians doing it when they control Crimea. The greed for more is going to completely ruin Russia.
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Originally Posted By infinit⏩
It's hilarious, I can find video evidence of them losing hundreds in a matter of minutes. Yet he wants to say there is a couple of thousand total. Sure.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...ner_unit_near/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...rate_indirect/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...n_a_ditch_are/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...khmut_ukraine/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota..._eliminated_a/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota..._by_ukrainian/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...flank_the_afu/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...oldier_around/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...r_mortar_fire/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...issance_units/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...ites_continue/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota..._skala_filmed/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...s_into_a_mine/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...snopol_guided/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...aeger_brigade/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...ine_ukrainian/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...ed_by_ua_30th/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...d_the_bakhmut/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota..._aerorozvidka/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...soldiers_with/
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...d_the_bakhmut/
I used to think Memecope was just trolling, but he is a complete fukkin moron that is borderline schizophrenic and has been posting like Katya as of late. His post are a bunch of gibberish that make no sense at all.
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
“Macron says Ukraine joining NATO is unlikely and warns of dangerous consequences if it does”


Sorry Ukrops, you can die for the EU and NATO, but you can't join the club…ayyLMAO
Vatniks have went from stating Ukraine was going to join NATO and this is why Poots invaded to protect his Country, to making stupid ass post like this. You guys are a mess.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
LOL

Fukin chalupa, never change
post 1673330963 12-22-2022, 09:28 AM
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Artemovsk is the correct name for Bakhmut if you're unaware
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
This. I can't figure out WTF their long term goal is now. The only thing that makes any kind of sense is to try and take Kiev again hoping Ukraine as a whole will surrender if Kiev falls. But Ukraine has had way too long to fortify Kiev and its surrounding area, there is zero chance they take it like Mariupol, nobody would support them destroying it like they did Mauripol in the first place.

The extremely scary thing is neither side seems like they will make concessions, there will be no peace with Russia in Donbas/Mauripol/Crimea for Ukrainians. Russia isn't going to just give these back, so what happens? These two Country's continue to fight until they completely wipe out their young men to make future generations? I can understand why Ukraine would fight to their last man, but I don't get Russians doing it when they control Crimea. The greed for more is going to completely ruin Russia.
It will be a war of attrition.

Impossible for Ruzzia to win long term. Will be like Vietnam for the US or Afghanistan for the Soviets.
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Russia has completely lost any gains they made on the outskirts of Bakmut.




Russia has lost 42% of its active tanks in service via visual confirmations.



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post 1673331323 12-22-2022, 09:33 AM
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memcop has to work with what he's given by the Kremlin. He has no choice.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
This. I can't figure out WTF their long term goal is now. The only thing that makes any kind of sense is to try and take Kiev again hoping Ukraine as a whole will surrender if Kiev falls. But Ukraine has had way too long to fortify Kiev and its surrounding area, there is zero chance they take it like Mariupol, nobody would support them destroying it like they did Mauripol in the first place.

The extremely scary thing is neither side seems like they will make concessions, there will be no peace with Russia in Donbas/Mauripol/Crimea for Ukrainians. Russia isn't going to just give these back, so what happens? These two Country's continue to fight until they completely wipe out their young men to make future generations? I can understand why Ukraine would fight to their last man, but I don't get Russians doing it when they control Crimea. The greed for more is going to completely ruin Russia.
I don't see how it ends sadly either. I think Putin hopes he can deplete Ukraine and that support will run out. I think it's pretty clear he initially thought this would be over in weeks, and when it was not that Western support would dry up and that he could turn the screw on Europe via cutting off gas. Looks like Europe will ride this winter out, so he's going to have to keep it up for at least another 12 months. It's pretty clear that if it comes to it, Ukraine will resort to guerrilla urban warfare.

Russia's facing the same inflation that's being seen in Europe, they're already in a recession. How long until people at home get fed up that they're losing their sons and their economy is in the ****ter for something that's ultimately a self-inflicted wound I wonder.
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Originally Posted By infinit⏩
I don't see how it ends sadly either. I think Putin hopes he can deplete Ukraine and that support will run out. I think it's pretty clear he initially thought this would be over in weeks, and when it was not that Western support would dry up and that he could turn the screw on Europe via cutting off gas. Looks like Europe will ride this winter out, so he's going to have to keep it up for at least another 12 months. It's pretty clear that if it comes to it, Ukraine will resort to guerrilla urban warfare.

Russia's facing the same inflation that's being seen in Europe, they're already in a recession. How long until people at home get fed up that they're losing their sons and their economy is in the ****ter for something that's ultimately a self-inflicted wound I wonder.
Must suck to be in a recession

o wait
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Must suck to be in a recession

o wait
UK isn't in a recession currently. But the point is Russia's is entirely self-inflicted.
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"Zelensky shows up to DC looking like a strip club manager and demanding money."
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russia is gonna go bankrupt any second now i totally swear guise!
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In Bakhmut
Sit in my car on Friday nights so my cat thinks I have a social life crew
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Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩


In Artemovsk
Fixed
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Fixed
Based
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Vatniks coping with "captain obvious" news/10

They want to diverge attention from them losing in Bakhmut for 4+ months now...SAD!
They're down to shuffling/combining the following:

- Zelensky is a gay jew
- Ukrainians are nazis
- something about globohomo
- intentionally misspelling words/names because that is funi
- random 240p video about something
- muh nukes
- muh Bakhmut, this time for real, no, really
- Euros will freeze to death and collapse
- power shortages in random cities
- insulting chalup's wife

Think I've covered everything.
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So we are still at "Both sides are winning, Both sides are losing." I see.
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LOL...don't even need to check the news, the retard crew sperg out tells me all I need to know.
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba⏩
LOL...don't even need to check the news, the retard crew sperg out tells me all I need to know.
We've gone from "Ukraine is winning because muh successful offensive" to "Ukraine is winning because it's taken Russia a long time to defeat Ukraine"
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
As it is right now, I don't see it falling. If it does fall, it will be closer to March and be an absolute worthless victory. Now Memecope lets go over some things, you state it is a couple of thousand VS tens of thousands. When you make a statement like this, you need to back it up with sources. So please do drop me some sources that explicitly state your stats you can't seem to help vomit every day ITT.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ia-2022-12-20/

Yevgeny Prigozhin, Wagner's founder, who is sanctioned in the West, has confirmed his men are fighting there.

The deal he offered convicts was to fight and be pardoned in six months or, if they joined up and deserted, face execution.

In November, independent Russian news outlet Mediazona reported that publicly available data from Russia's Federal Penitentiary Service showed the overall prison population shrank by over 23,000 people in September and October, the biggest drop of its kind in more than a decade.

From this article alone we can deduce that Russia took in over 20,000 convicts to fight the war, and we all know the convicts are fighting in Bakmut. That alone is over your stupid ass number of "couple of thousand". Now you throw in everything needed to support the 20,000 convicts and the actual decently trained Wagners and we can come up with a figure around 30-35,000 Russians currently close to Bakmut.

If Russia has over 200,000 men in Ukraine, why in the world would they only use a couple of thousand to fight and take Bakmut? It's the biggest fighting ground of the entire front line, and you think they only have 2000 men there? Your post are fukkin trash man.
Find your own sources. I've posted mine. If you're going to ignore them when I do post, what's the point? I recommend you take a look at several battle maps, especially one with unit placement.

Wagner is the same contractor that has laid 3 layers of dragon teeth with mines along 450 miles of border.

Deduce what you will if you think 20k Wagner prisoners are there. Why would so many troops be needed if it is a walking artillery line?
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Lol too many Ucranian Nazi tears the past few days

Christmas gonna get real juicy I feel

Feels good mane. No power, no electricity, no gifts, no water. Only sweet, sweet tears

Bakhmut is a pointless victory

****ing lol
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
This. I can't figure out WTF their long term goal is now. The only thing that makes any kind of sense is to try and take Kiev again hoping Ukraine as a whole will surrender if Kiev falls. But Ukraine has had way too long to fortify Kiev and its surrounding area, there is zero chance they take it like Mariupol, nobody would support them destroying it like they did Mauripol in the first place.

The extremely scary thing is neither side seems like they will make concessions, there will be no peace with Russia in Donbas/Mauripol/Crimea for Ukrainians. Russia isn't going to just give these back, so what happens? These two Country's continue to fight until they completely wipe out their young men to make future generations? I can understand why Ukraine would fight to their last man, but I don't get Russians doing it when they control Crimea. The greed for more is going to completely ruin Russia.
Ukraine's war effort is predicated on the continued support of ourselves & the EU. Maybe I'll be proved wrong but once Biden decides it's time to re-enter talks with Russia, I don't see how Zelensky says no.

We provide them with intel, we provide maintenance for weapons, etc.
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Originally Posted By NKWulf⏩
So we are still at "Both sides are winning, Both sides are losing." I see.
There has never been but one side losing.

Some are impatient and expect call of duty results instantaneously.

100k losses at a 1:1 killed to wounded ratio puts Russia out of the fight. 10:1 artillery with millions upon millions fired versus hundreds of thousands fired does not compute to Russian loss.

Sure they are the bad guys but it's military power v military power. Two entire Ukrainian armies have been defeated, the original and the Nato supplied.

Ukrain cannot resist rushing fatal funnels of Russian artillery. They've paid off a couple of times but it isn't a time winning strategy if Russia runs away and doesn't fight when they break through.
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Originally Posted By kostapoulos⏩
Lol too many Ucranian Nazi tears the past few days

Christmas gonna get real juicy I feel

Feels good mane. No power, no electricity, no gifts, no water. Only sweet, sweet tears

Bakhmut is a pointless victory

****ing lol
Zelensky came to beg Santa Biden for his christmas wish of offensive weapons to push Russia out but he must have been a bad boy this year because all he got was a lump of coal
“It’s the bill of rights, not the bill of requests. Rights are not up for negotiations.” Thomas Massie, MAGA enemy #1
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