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Originally Posted By radrd⏩
It's not a simple solution, but with the homeless, for example, my solution would be to give them every resource possible to get off the streets, but put them on a timeline. You get three years. You get rehab if you need it, a job, even UBI for the period of time so you can live like a normal person. All you have to do is not do drugs, take your meds if mentally ill, and contribute to society in some meaningful way. Even volunteer work applies.
So what is your solution? Let them die? If that's your mentality, then so be it. Most people aren't assholes like that.
If you get to the end of three years given all that and haven't changed, well then, you're not going to. So you get euthanized.
Sounds totally heartless and horrifying, but it would definitely be a solution.
04-30-2026, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted By radrd⏩
I think people who take care of there health should get free healthcare and people who refuse to eat healthy and exercise should have to pay through the nose
So what is your solution? Let them die? If that's your mentality, then so be it. Most people aren't assholes like that.
04-30-2026, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Papi_Chulo⏩
Yep a lot of homeless people also prefer homelessness.
People take advantage
A lot of homeless don't want to work
They refuse the available beds in shelters because they rather be on the street doing drugs
And in the US there are high homeless in liberal states like California because they all move there from other states since they get a monthly check from California tax payers. They get like 800 a month to spend on drugs, they all have newer smart phones than me and I work two jobs
With AI and robot take over there will be even more unemployed in the future. They will release a new virus to cull the heard. All this talk of UBI from big tech is nonsense, they have no incentive to pay out
A lot of homeless don't want to work
They refuse the available beds in shelters because they rather be on the street doing drugs
And in the US there are high homeless in liberal states like California because they all move there from other states since they get a monthly check from California tax payers. They get like 800 a month to spend on drugs, they all have newer smart phones than me and I work two jobs
With AI and robot take over there will be even more unemployed in the future. They will release a new virus to cull the heard. All this talk of UBI from big tech is nonsense, they have no incentive to pay out
Reminds me of this ex pro hockey player. His name is Joe Murphy and he has the backing of the entire national hockey league players union, former teammates, family and friends all trying to get him off the streets and he just prefers being homeless. He also would have made a ton of money during his career.
04-30-2026, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky⏩
Yeah, about that. Alcoholism, drug addicts, people who fried their brains on drugs where now they have disorders such as bi-polar or PTSD from it, and a lot of them, seems like they can do everything BUT work.
what do you consider disabled vs able-bodied? the problem is that you think somebody has to have a physical limitation like being in a wheelchair to be considered disabled.
the reality is that not all disabilities are visible. in fact, the majority of disabilities are invisible.
you have no idea what conditions people have, nor do you know anything about their history and what led them to their situation. some people had brutal childhoods and they experienced severe trauma.
the reality is that not all disabilities are visible. in fact, the majority of disabilities are invisible.
you have no idea what conditions people have, nor do you know anything about their history and what led them to their situation. some people had brutal childhoods and they experienced severe trauma.
Also there are whole networks of doctors and lawyers that help them "prove" their disability. Just like there are networks of doctors, chiros, and lawyers that will get you 100K for a fender bender.
04-30-2026, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Jaydubs⏩
the problem with your thinking is that anything can be faked.
Yeah, about that. Alcoholism, drug addicts, people who fried their brains on drugs where now they have disorders such as bi-polar or PTSD from it, and a lot of them, seems like they can do everything BUT work.
Also there are whole networks of doctors and lawyers that help them "prove" their disability. Just like there are networks of doctors, chiros, and lawyers that will get you 100K for a fender bender.
Also there are whole networks of doctors and lawyers that help them "prove" their disability. Just like there are networks of doctors, chiros, and lawyers that will get you 100K for a fender bender.
how do you prove that a guy in a wheelchair is actually disabled? it's possible that he could be faking it. maybe he only uses the wheelchair when he's out in public. maybe at home he moves around like a normal person.
how do you prove that a guy with severe back pain is actually experiencing back pain? he could be faking it.
some people fake injuries and illnesses, but all of these conditions are legitimate and many people suffer from them. i don't think the people getting $1000 a month from the government are the problem.
the real problem is wealthy people and corporations exploiting loopholes to hoard money they don't need.
04-30-2026, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky⏩
The elites and moochers are both the problem
the problem with your thinking is that anything can be faked.
how do you prove that a guy in a wheelchair is actually disabled? it's possible that he could be faking it. maybe he only uses the wheelchair when he's out in public. maybe at home he moves around like a normal person.
how do you prove that a guy with severe back pain is actually experiencing back pain? he could be faking it.
some people fake injuries and illnesses, but all of these conditions are legitimate and many people suffer from them. i don't think the people getting $1000 a month from the government are the problem.
the real problem is wealthy people and corporations exploiting loopholes to hoard money they don't need.
how do you prove that a guy in a wheelchair is actually disabled? it's possible that he could be faking it. maybe he only uses the wheelchair when he's out in public. maybe at home he moves around like a normal person.
how do you prove that a guy with severe back pain is actually experiencing back pain? he could be faking it.
some people fake injuries and illnesses, but all of these conditions are legitimate and many people suffer from them. i don't think the people getting $1000 a month from the government are the problem.
the real problem is wealthy people and corporations exploiting loopholes to hoard money they don't need.
IDK why people think it's either or
The middle class get fucked over the most
They pay th highest taxes by percentage
They can't even afford houses or kids these days
If you're on welfare everything is free. Hell you get rewarded for more kids
If you're rich you pay way less taxes and have the nicest things. They're paying capital gains rates, using write offs and not paying Fica.
Fica is the biggest scam ever
They act like it don't exist. Whenever people talk federal taxes they all leave out an additional 7.5 percent that all wage slaves pay
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04-30-2026, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Papi_Chulo⏩
This we can hate both
The elites and moochers are both the problem
IDK why people think it's either or
The middle class get fucked over the most
They pay th highest taxes by percentage
They can't even afford houses or kids these days
If you're on welfare everything is free. Hell you get rewarded for more kids
If you're rich you pay way less taxes and have the nicest things. They're paying capital gains rates, using write offs and not paying Fica.
Fica is the biggest scam ever
They act like it don't exist. Whenever people talk federal taxes they all leave out an additional 7.5 percent that all wage slaves pay
IDK why people think it's either or
The middle class get fucked over the most
They pay th highest taxes by percentage
They can't even afford houses or kids these days
If you're on welfare everything is free. Hell you get rewarded for more kids
If you're rich you pay way less taxes and have the nicest things. They're paying capital gains rates, using write offs and not paying Fica.
Fica is the biggest scam ever
They act like it don't exist. Whenever people talk federal taxes they all leave out an additional 7.5 percent that all wage slaves pay
04-30-2026, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted By Basedbabyy⏩
It makes me rage
This we can hate both
If you're a wage slave cuck you're paying 20 percent Fed taxes, state.taxes like 7 percent. 7.5 percent fica taxes. Insurance for healthcare, dental, vision. Then when you take home half your states pay now you pay rentcel money post taxes and all your food, then any household goods you pay more local taxes. If you have a car taxes on that, some cuck states even have property taxes on a car. If you're a landchad property taxes on that.
Meanwhile shaquandra sits around watching TV on her ass and everything is free from some supposed hardship and I'm supposed to feel sorry she got 5 kids by 5 different dudes.
And then the elites they don't pay for shit. They have all kinds of tax shelter strategies
I seen the other day some soldier was getting arrested for placing bets on muderos arrest using insider information . It's literally a crime for a wageslave to do what all of Congress does. Everytime Trump makes a tweet in the Iran war there is option market movements 15 minutes prior from his staff. But this wage cuck is going to jail and publicly humiliated for doing the same thing
And they have the.audacity to act like 100k is a lot of money. Everytime they have a stimulus boost you have to make like 75k or less. But 100k ain't shit that is like 50k takehome when you add up your true tax burdeons
It will only get worse they are laying off more and more white middle class and replacing them with h1b pradeeps but using AI as a cover story
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04-30-2026, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Papi_Chulo⏩
This is why I’m gonna quit my career job soon and just work some easy part time job where I only make like 15k a year (the standard deduction). So little to no income tax.
It makes me rage
If you're a wage slave cuck you're paying 20 percent Fed taxes, state.taxes like 7 percent. 7.5 percent fica taxes. Insurance for healthcare, dental, vision. Then when you take home half your states pay now you pay rentcel money post taxes and all your food, then any household goods you pay more local taxes. If you have a car taxes on that, some cuck states even have property taxes on a car. If you're a landchad property taxes on that.
Meanwhile shaquandra sits around watching TV on her ass and everything is free from some supposed hardship and I'm supposed to feel sorry she got 5 kids by 5 different dudes.
And then the elites they don't pay for shit. They have all kinds of tax shelter strategies
I seen the other day some soldier was getting arrested for placing bets on muderos arrest using insider information . It's literally a crime for a wageslave to do what all of Congress does. Everytime Trump makes a tweet in the Iran war there is option market movements 15 minutes prior from his staff. But this wage cuck is going to jail and publicly humiliated for doing the same thing
If you're a wage slave cuck you're paying 20 percent Fed taxes, state.taxes like 7 percent. 7.5 percent fica taxes. Insurance for healthcare, dental, vision. Then when you take home half your states pay now you pay rentcel money post taxes and all your food, then any household goods you pay more local taxes. If you have a car taxes on that, some cuck states even have property taxes on a car. If you're a landchad property taxes on that.
Meanwhile shaquandra sits around watching TV on her ass and everything is free from some supposed hardship and I'm supposed to feel sorry she got 5 kids by 5 different dudes.
And then the elites they don't pay for shit. They have all kinds of tax shelter strategies
I seen the other day some soldier was getting arrested for placing bets on muderos arrest using insider information . It's literally a crime for a wageslave to do what all of Congress does. Everytime Trump makes a tweet in the Iran war there is option market movements 15 minutes prior from his staff. But this wage cuck is going to jail and publicly humiliated for doing the same thing
04-30-2026, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Basedbabyy⏩
It's bullshit whenever you do turbo tax it will tell you some bullshit number like your effective tax rate is 12 percent but that doesn't account for fica, state, sales, property, car registration, on and on.
This is why I’m gonna quit my career job soon and just work some easy part time job where I only make like 15k a year (the standard deduction). So little to no income tax.
Then all the mandatory things you must buy that are paid with post tax dollars. Utilities. Rent or mortgage. Food ect
Everything is free for oppressed shaquandra, Pedro and somalis. Then you're told only be mad at the billionaires and the. Told to vote for these politicians that promise to fix everything but are just owned by the billionaires
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Originally Posted By Basedbabyy⏩
I basically pretend like I make nothing and hide money overseas, etc. So the government has no idea how much money I actually make. Fuck them and their 50% tax rate. I'm paying as little tax as possible until I die and then I just have to make sure any assets are in the names of the people who they were going to go to anyway like my kids.
This is why I’m gonna quit my career job soon and just work some easy part time job where I only make like 15k a year (the standard deduction). So little to no income tax.
04-30-2026, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
You know what else is bullshit is the 5 year look back rule for Medicaid.
I basically pretend like I make nothing and hide money overseas, etc. So the government has no idea how much money I actually make. Fuck them and their 50% tax rate. I'm paying as little tax as possible until I die and then I just have to make sure any assets are in the names of the people who they were going to go to anyway like my kids.
You pay into it for 45 years but then when you need to actually use it if you're terminally I'll they will take all your fucking assets from you before you can use it to get the shittiest hospice care and then your relatives get nothing
What is even the point of working
You should be able to opt out of FICA
Insurance is a scam too. All kinds of insurance. That's a good 5 paragraph rant
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
You self employed? How do you hide money?
I basically pretend like I make nothing and hide money overseas, etc. So the government has no idea how much money I actually make. Fuck them and their 50% tax rate. I'm paying as little tax as possible until I die and then I just have to make sure any assets are in the names of the people who they were going to go to anyway like my kids.
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Originally Posted By Papi_Chulo⏩
I feel this way also.
You know what else is bullshit is the 5 year look back rule for Medicaid.
You pay into it for 45 years but then when you need to actually use it if you're terminally I'll they will take all your fucking assets from you before you can use it to get the shittiest hospice care and then your relatives get nothing
What is even the point of working
You should be able to opt out of FICA
Insurance is a scam too. All kinds of insurance. That's a good 5 paragraph rant
You pay into it for 45 years but then when you need to actually use it if you're terminally I'll they will take all your fucking assets from you before you can use it to get the shittiest hospice care and then your relatives get nothing
What is even the point of working
You should be able to opt out of FICA
Insurance is a scam too. All kinds of insurance. That's a good 5 paragraph rant
Social Security is another where you put in 6% and your employer matches it with another 6% and then after working for decades you barely get enough to live on, if you can even live on it. You need to have other savings and such to survive and ever retire. Speaking of retirement, if you put that 6% and matching into a 401K, you would retire well off, and if you were smart and put it in the right IRA you will retire a millionair. Why can't the government do that? For one, what you are paying now is taking care of the current retired, but also all of the people who havcen't contributed a dime and they are getting a lot of money. When you die, all that money goes POOF but a IRA/401K could go to your children or whoever you wanted it to go to.
I know of sloots that get all kinds of benefits, including $1300/mo from Social Security because they have rather mild disorders like high functioning Autism, I'm talking about the kid is diagnosed with ADHD, mama gets a check. The mom, dad, have never contributed and yet they are getting paid. A lot of times the kids will turn out to be as useless as their parents. They usually have other medical problems too. All paid for by us.
Let me remind anyone that when the Liberals start talking about how the rich doen't pay taxes and that's why we have to be taxed remember that every tax has started as only a tax on the rich and somehow people working at McDonalds are paying 1/3 of their check in taxes.
Maybe we do need to cut these people off and let nature sort it out. Those who have never contributed get NOTHING.
04-30-2026, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted By TheParish⏩
This!
One of many steps needed to fix this place
We are enabling the behavior
Don’t have money ? Work harder or get a job that pays more..get an education or learn a trade srs
04-30-2026, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
Lmao. Even setting aside the ridiculous euthenization aspect, do you know how many more social workers we would need to support this monitoring system? You think your taxes are high now...
It's not a simple solution, but with the homeless, for example, my solution would be to give them every resource possible to get off the streets, but put them on a timeline. You get three years. You get rehab if you need it, a job, even UBI for the period of time so you can live like a normal person. All you have to do is not do drugs, take your meds if mentally ill, and contribute to society in some meaningful way. Even volunteer work applies.
If you get to the end of three years given all that and haven't changed, well then, you're not going to. So you get euthanized.
Sounds totally heartless and horrifying, but it would definitely be a solution.
If you get to the end of three years given all that and haven't changed, well then, you're not going to. So you get euthanized.
Sounds totally heartless and horrifying, but it would definitely be a solution.
Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky⏩
That's a massive and stupid assumption on your part. My experience is that most disabilities are mental rather than physical or due to age and conditions like diabetes that are self-inflicted. Addiction also results in disabling conditions. I don't know what made you think that I only consider wheelchair bound people disabled. Work on your reading comprehension bro.
what do you consider disabled vs able-bodied? the problem is that you think somebody has to have a physical limitation like being in a wheelchair to be considered disabled.
the reality is that not all disabilities are visible. in fact, the majority of disabilities are invisible.
you have no idea what conditions people have, nor do you know anything about their history and what led them to their situation. some people had brutal childhoods and they experienced severe trauma.
the reality is that not all disabilities are visible. in fact, the majority of disabilities are invisible.
you have no idea what conditions people have, nor do you know anything about their history and what led them to their situation. some people had brutal childhoods and they experienced severe trauma.
04-30-2026, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted By radrd⏩
you used the term "able-bodied". i don't know if you understand the meaning of that word, but it refers to the physical aspects of ability.
That's a massive and stupid assumption on your part. My experience is that most disabilities are mental rather than physical or due to age and conditions like diabetes that are self-inflicted. Addiction also results in disabling conditions. I don't know what made you think that I only consider wheelchair bound people disabled. Work on your reading comprehension bro.
definition from Google AI: "Able-bodied" describes someone who is physically healthy, fit, and strong, specifically not having a physical disability. The term often implies having full, unimpaired use of limbs and bodily functions.
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
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Hey you fat Asian retard, you have no clue what you’re talking about.
The welfare system was originally established for the elderly, veterans and the disabled. My father clearly falls into the latter category (as do you, although your disability is mental in nature).
It’s actually hilarious for a deranged, emotionally weak pothead like you try to preach about phony altruism through your broken English, when you don’t even have the impulse control to stop shoveling fast food and alcohol into your mouth. You’re the picture perfect definition of gluttony. Nothing but a FAT selfish waste of space. Nobody respects you. Society would be better off without you and you know it.
My father, however, paid into the system for over 30 fucking years. That easily amounts to hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes allocated towards welfare programs. It’s not entitlement to say he deserves a small piece of that back in his worst moment.
The irony is that he raised me to outright reject social services. There were times when we were poor enough to qualify for public assistance, but he refused. Even to the point of making me pay for my own school lunches in high school when the district would’ve qualified me for free food due to our low household income.
That’s a man of integrity, and frankly, one who has contributed more to society, and taken less from it, than you ever will.
If I had a fraction of his character, I’d be a much better man.
And on that note, I’m stuck at my job because of me. I could take action today and land a better position with my experience, but I’m paralyzed by a lack of ambition and aversion to risk. I take full responsibility for it. Furthermore, my car has been paid off since 2023 and I live in one of the nicest suburbs in my city, albeit as a rentcel. I’ve easily elevated above the socioeconomic class I was born into. How many phaggots like you can say the same? Do I indulge myself in expensive pizzas occasionally? Sure. But that’s what life is all about and, again, at least I’m not a FAT Asian retard like you.
Go fuck yourself.
The welfare system was originally established for the elderly, veterans and the disabled. My father clearly falls into the latter category (as do you, although your disability is mental in nature).
It’s actually hilarious for a deranged, emotionally weak pothead like you try to preach about phony altruism through your broken English, when you don’t even have the impulse control to stop shoveling fast food and alcohol into your mouth. You’re the picture perfect definition of gluttony. Nothing but a FAT selfish waste of space. Nobody respects you. Society would be better off without you and you know it.
My father, however, paid into the system for over 30 fucking years. That easily amounts to hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes allocated towards welfare programs. It’s not entitlement to say he deserves a small piece of that back in his worst moment.
The irony is that he raised me to outright reject social services. There were times when we were poor enough to qualify for public assistance, but he refused. Even to the point of making me pay for my own school lunches in high school when the district would’ve qualified me for free food due to our low household income.
That’s a man of integrity, and frankly, one who has contributed more to society, and taken less from it, than you ever will.
If I had a fraction of his character, I’d be a much better man.
And on that note, I’m stuck at my job because of me. I could take action today and land a better position with my experience, but I’m paralyzed by a lack of ambition and aversion to risk. I take full responsibility for it. Furthermore, my car has been paid off since 2023 and I live in one of the nicest suburbs in my city, albeit as a rentcel. I’ve easily elevated above the socioeconomic class I was born into. How many phaggots like you can say the same? Do I indulge myself in expensive pizzas occasionally? Sure. But that’s what life is all about and, again, at least I’m not a FAT Asian retard like you.
Go fuck yourself.
hopefully ur dad dies soon so my tax dollars arent subsidizing his useless life
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
so he's a useless leech
My point to that fat Asian retard was that an able bodied man doesn’t need welfare. A man with dignity will go out there and do what it takes to provide for his family. Unfortunately pops is no longer able bodied
onto the graveyard
04-30-2026, 05:16 PM
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Hes a red just looking for attention.
WTF is wrong with you?!
Jesus christ...
Jesus christ...
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Originally Posted By johnvee73⏩
Yeah he's red now because I negged him. I've never negged anyone srs.
Hes a red just looking for attention.
I'm sorry but not fucking cool and what a terrible thing to say about someone's family member.
Come on guys...
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
maybe u missed the part where he wished death upon me
WTF is wrong with you?!
Jesus christ...
Jesus christ...
but ofc it went over ur head cuz ur a dumb sloot who cant think logically and plays favorites
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Originally Posted By dropped40lbs⏩
Dumb sloot, blah, blah, blah...same old garbage coming from your mouth...nothing new to see here.
maybe u missed the part where he wished death upon me
but ofc it went over ur head cuz ur a dumb sloot who cant think logically and plays favorites
but ofc it went over ur head cuz ur a dumb sloot who cant think logically and plays favorites
Fuck off
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04-30-2026, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
wahh wahh
Dumb sloot, blah, blah, blah...same old garbage coming from your mouth...nothing new to see here.
Fuck off
Fuck off
more emotions instead of logical thinking
grow up granny, it aint that srs
04-30-2026, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted By dropped40lbs⏩
*yawns*
wahh wahh
more emotions instead of logical thinking
grow up granny, it aint that srs
more emotions instead of logical thinking
grow up granny, it aint that srs
You're the one that needs to grow up phaggot...
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04-30-2026, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky⏩
Fair enough. I don't consider someone who is mentally impaired to be able-bodied, but you're right about the literal definition. Repped.
you used the term "able-bodied". i don't know if you understand the meaning of that word, but it refers to the physical aspects of ability.
definition from Google AI: "Able-bodied" describes someone who is physically healthy, fit, and strong, specifically not having a physical disability. The term often implies having full, unimpaired use of limbs and bodily functions.
definition from Google AI: "Able-bodied" describes someone who is physically healthy, fit, and strong, specifically not having a physical disability. The term often implies having full, unimpaired use of limbs and bodily functions.
04-30-2026, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted By dropped40lbs⏩
Don't worry, you'll be there sooner than him and the world will rejoice.
so he's a useless leech
onto the graveyard
onto the graveyard
Originally Posted By kimm4⏩
This is the same guy who spammed old misc with photos of himself standing up completely naked with his morbidly obese stomach hanging down over his tiny flaccid cawk. Over and over again. Multiple threads. Multiple alts. 100% srs.
*yawns*
You're the one that needs to grow up phaggot...
You're the one that needs to grow up phaggot...
Definitely just a pathetic loser who wants attention. I'm actually sitting here laughing because he's such an unhinged braindead retard and he doesn't even realize it.
04-30-2026, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585⏩
Oh I know who he is.
Don't worry, you'll be there sooner than him and the world will rejoice.
This is the same guy who spammed old misc with photos of himself standing up completely naked with his morbidly obese stomach hanging down over his tiny flaccid cawk. Over and over again. Multiple threads. Multiple alts. 100% srs.
Definitely just a pathetic loser who wants attention. I'm actually sitting here laughing because he's such an unhinged braindead retard and he doesn't even realize it.
This is the same guy who spammed old misc with photos of himself standing up completely naked with his morbidly obese stomach hanging down over his tiny flaccid cawk. Over and over again. Multiple threads. Multiple alts. 100% srs.
Definitely just a pathetic loser who wants attention. I'm actually sitting here laughing because he's such an unhinged braindead retard and he doesn't even realize it.
Wishing someone dead and trying to school me on logic, telling me I need to grow up.
Get the fuck outta here...
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