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I dont agree with the BLM movement but heres something from my perspective as a white male living in the ghetto for many years:
I went to an urban school in the ghetto, 90% of white kids I knew smoked weed weekly, carried it on them weekly, did Coke at least once a month, Molly all the time, etc.
In my friend group and fraternity, probably 15-20% sold some sort of drug for some extended period of time
None were arrested for it
If I was black and lived in this neighborhood, and nhad the friends with similar statistics, id imgine more than a few would have ever been arrested
Not saying its only based on race, and i dont buy into the privledge BS, but there is a fundamental difference between being white upper class and being poor black living in the same area with the same cops...
I went to an urban school in the ghetto, 90% of white kids I knew smoked weed weekly, carried it on them weekly, did Coke at least once a month, Molly all the time, etc.
In my friend group and fraternity, probably 15-20% sold some sort of drug for some extended period of time
None were arrested for it
If I was black and lived in this neighborhood, and nhad the friends with similar statistics, id imgine more than a few would have ever been arrested
Not saying its only based on race, and i dont buy into the privledge BS, but there is a fundamental difference between being white upper class and being poor black living in the same area with the same cops...
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
the stats from 2015 state of white/black crime 84% of violent crime is black against white, thats not over policimg thats responding to a problem
Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
Someone doesn't know how to read statistics.http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/ne...violent-crime/
who said anything about judging, but if you have a group of people commiting a vast majority of the crime its logical to police that group more idiot
who said anything about judging, but if you have a group of people commiting a vast majority of the crime its logical to police that group more idiot
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yeah to fit in you'd mold your behaviors or I think 90% doDo you believe the culture of a race impacts the behavior of the members of that race?
Will a person typically structure their individual behavior as to be consistent with their race's culture?
Will a person typically structure their individual behavior as to be consistent with their race's culture?
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Originally Posted By FlexLex⏩
That's probably stereotyping playing into that. Like seeing somebody act a certain way and jusT thinking they're up to something so they stop those people and have a little chat. Do you think that'll ever change? Or do you have any idea how to stop that?Not saying its only based on race, and i dont buy into the privledge BS, but there is a fundamental difference between being white upper class and being poor black living in the same area with the same cops...
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Originally Posted By Rayaarito⏩
Oh Im sure it does. It also likely has to do with the fact that most students are smoking weed in their offcampus luxury apartments paid for by mom and dad with their boys while 17 year old Tyrone is on the street for 5 hours a day. More chance to be caught when outside, add in the sketch factor of a bunch of black teens and its much higher.That's probably stereotyping playing into that. Like seeing somebody act a certain way and jusT thinking they're up to something so they stop those people and have a little chat. Do you think that'll ever change? Or do you have any idea how to stop that?
Now that I think back to it, I did have one friend arrested for trying to sell Molly to an undercover cop. His parents drove down that night, paid his bond, hired a good lawyer and nothing really happened. Again, same situation I dont think an African American would have the same experience.
Just to clarify, I dont think any of the cop bashing is legitimate, and I think 100% of these shootings are avoidable if the people just comply with officers demands (save maybe the one just recently killed in his car). My point is there definitely is some kind of difference between how blacks perceive the treatment between races and I can understand how their community could be enraged.
I also think the entire criminal justice system needs to be totally redone from cops to courts to jails but thats a different subject. There is too much money going into traffic stops and locking people up.
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Originally Posted By BDPfit⏩
I'm sure you're doing everything you can to support your bias.Woah bro that's racist af
Hispanics are statistically just as poverty as blacks in America, have the same population %, and yet their violent crime rate is much lower. Not to mention all the illegals that are most likely not included in the total population numbers I looked up, driving their violent crime % down further
I'm sure this all just a coincidence though
Hispanics are statistically just as poverty as blacks in America, have the same population %, and yet their violent crime rate is much lower. Not to mention all the illegals that are most likely not included in the total population numbers I looked up, driving their violent crime % down further
I'm sure this all just a coincidence though
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Originally Posted By FlexLex⏩
great perspective. I got you on rechargeOh Im sure it does. It also likely has to do with the fact that most students are smoking weed in their offcampus luxury apartments paid for by mom and dad with their boys while 17 year old Tyrone is on the street for 5 hours a day. More chance to be caught when outside, add in the sketch factor of a bunch of black teens and its much higher.
Now that I think back to it, I did have one friend arrested for trying to sell Molly to an undercover cop. His parents drove down that night, paid his bond, hired a good lawyer and nothing really happened. Again, same situation I dont think an African American would have the same experience.
Just to clarify, I dont think any of the cop bashing is legitimate, and I think 100% of these shootings are avoidable if the people just comply with officers demands (save maybe the one just recently killed in his car). My point is there definitely is some kind of difference between how blacks perceive the treatment between races and I can understand how their community could be enraged.
I also think the entire criminal justice system needs to be totally redone from cops to courts to jails but thats a different subject. There is too much money going into traffic stops and locking people up.
Now that I think back to it, I did have one friend arrested for trying to sell Molly to an undercover cop. His parents drove down that night, paid his bond, hired a good lawyer and nothing really happened. Again, same situation I dont think an African American would have the same experience.
Just to clarify, I dont think any of the cop bashing is legitimate, and I think 100% of these shootings are avoidable if the people just comply with officers demands (save maybe the one just recently killed in his car). My point is there definitely is some kind of difference between how blacks perceive the treatment between races and I can understand how their community could be enraged.
I also think the entire criminal justice system needs to be totally redone from cops to courts to jails but thats a different subject. There is too much money going into traffic stops and locking people up.
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Originally Posted By FlexLex⏩
Well they bring it upon themselves most of the time. I'm a department manager at the store I work in and most of our shoplifters happen to be african american. If a young black man walks in with saggy shorts, chains, etc most likely ill keep an eye on him more than a middle aged white woman since corporate keeps track of how much we lose by theft. I'd be dumb not to. Same with being a teacher. If a certain kid is known to misbehave, i'll have my eyes more on that child compared to the shy quiet girl who never causes issuesI dont agree with the BLM movement but heres something from my perspective as a white male living in the ghetto for many years:
I went to an urban school in the ghetto, 90% of white kids I knew smoked weed weekly, carried it on them weekly, did Coke at least once a month, Molly all the time, etc.
In my friend group and fraternity, probably 15-20% sold some sort of drug for some extended period of time
None were arrested for it
If I was black and lived in this neighborhood, and nhad the friends with similar statistics, id imgine more than a few would have ever been arrested
Not saying its only based on race, and i dont buy into the privledge BS, but there is a fundamental difference between being white upper class and being poor black living in the same area with the same cops...
I went to an urban school in the ghetto, 90% of white kids I knew smoked weed weekly, carried it on them weekly, did Coke at least once a month, Molly all the time, etc.
In my friend group and fraternity, probably 15-20% sold some sort of drug for some extended period of time
None were arrested for it
If I was black and lived in this neighborhood, and nhad the friends with similar statistics, id imgine more than a few would have ever been arrested
Not saying its only based on race, and i dont buy into the privledge BS, but there is a fundamental difference between being white upper class and being poor black living in the same area with the same cops...
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When you understand that the police have quotas and there is no such thing as justice and quota in the same sentence then you will understand why police have such an infamous reputation in the areas where they get the numbers. When you introduce profit into "fighting crime" you will always get corruption ESPECIALLY if they have no consequences for their actions. Many of you are historically unaware of anything really, other than your hatred for "ghetto trash" and DURR DA COPS IS GOOD DEYS JOB IS DANGEROUS.
Many ex-officers have already exposed how corruption starts from the top down and entire departments being corrupt is the usual. Its not everyone else's fault that you are ignorant of this.
The police are a gang. If they weren't they wouldnt have a universal NO RATTING rule. Why a no-snitching-rule if you are obeying the law, isnt that completely pointless? Instead of just reading these likeminded cucks reaffirm your own beliefs. Why dont you learn something about real life?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence
Dindus aren't torturing and killing retards.
Dindus aren't torturing and killing homeless people.
Dindus aren't shooting MULTIPLE deaf people for not HEARING their commands (GUESS THEY SHOULDVE JUST LISTENED TO THE POLICE OH WAIT LOL)
Dindus aren't shooting blind people with their walking stick.
Dindus arent shooting/pushing people in wheelchairs.
Dindus arent tackling old ladies.
Dindus aren't grenading newborns and killing children in their own home in bad SWAT raids.
Dindus arent shotgunning litters of kittens
Dindus arent shooting peoples cat for hissing at them.
Dindus arent slamming 11 yr old girls on bicycles
Dindus aren't killing double amputee mental retards in a wheelchair with a pencil
Dindus arent shooting 10 yr old kids who answer THEIR OWN DOOR with a wiimote.
No. These are the types of weird sociopathic crimes that could be ONLY be derived from absolute power with no consequences. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The sooner you morons realize that the cops are a group of bounty hunters for the state no more no less, and not these angelic angels the sooner we can convict these corrupt criminals and stop firing good cops who report these scum.
I've been stopped 9 times with no criminal record. Do you think they nicely go up to me and ask what im doing then kindly go about their day? The stories I could tell about the NYPD I've seen in my own personal life, most of the sheltered cucks on the misc wouldnt believe me.
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If most cops are good, then why does every SINGLE whistleblower who reports corrupt cops get threatened and fired?
Many ex-officers have already exposed how corruption starts from the top down and entire departments being corrupt is the usual. Its not everyone else's fault that you are ignorant of this.
The police are a gang. If they weren't they wouldnt have a universal NO RATTING rule. Why a no-snitching-rule if you are obeying the law, isnt that completely pointless? Instead of just reading these likeminded cucks reaffirm your own beliefs. Why dont you learn something about real life?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence
Dindus aren't torturing and killing retards.
Dindus aren't torturing and killing homeless people.
Dindus aren't shooting MULTIPLE deaf people for not HEARING their commands (GUESS THEY SHOULDVE JUST LISTENED TO THE POLICE OH WAIT LOL)
Dindus aren't shooting blind people with their walking stick.
Dindus arent shooting/pushing people in wheelchairs.
Dindus arent tackling old ladies.
Dindus aren't grenading newborns and killing children in their own home in bad SWAT raids.
Dindus arent shotgunning litters of kittens
Dindus arent shooting peoples cat for hissing at them.
Dindus arent slamming 11 yr old girls on bicycles
Dindus aren't killing double amputee mental retards in a wheelchair with a pencil
Dindus arent shooting 10 yr old kids who answer THEIR OWN DOOR with a wiimote.
No. These are the types of weird sociopathic crimes that could be ONLY be derived from absolute power with no consequences. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The sooner you morons realize that the cops are a group of bounty hunters for the state no more no less, and not these angelic angels the sooner we can convict these corrupt criminals and stop firing good cops who report these scum.
I've been stopped 9 times with no criminal record. Do you think they nicely go up to me and ask what im doing then kindly go about their day? The stories I could tell about the NYPD I've seen in my own personal life, most of the sheltered cucks on the misc wouldnt believe me.
free image uploadingIf most cops are good, then why does every SINGLE whistleblower who reports corrupt cops get threatened and fired?
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Originally Posted By OhsoClutch⏩
Wouldn't that go back to it not being a race thing but a cop thing?When you understand that the police have quotas and there is no such thing as justice and quota in the same sentence then you will understand why police have such an infamous reputation in the areas where they get the numbers. When you introduce profit into "fighting crime" you will always get corruption ESPECIALLY if they have no consequences for their actions. Many of you are historically unaware of anything really, other than your hatred for "ghetto trash" and DURR DA COPS IS GOOD DEYS JOB IS DANGEROUS.
Many ex-officers have already exposed how corruption starts from the top down and entire departments being corrupt is the usual. Its not everyone else's fault that you are ignorant of this.
The police are a gang. If they weren't they wouldnt have a universal NO RATTING rule. Why a no-snitching-rule if you are obeying the law, isnt that completely pointless? Instead of just reading these likeminded cucks reaffirm your own beliefs. Why dont you learn something about real life?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence
Dindus aren't torturing and killing retards.
Dindus aren't torturing and killing homeless people.
Dindus aren't shooting MULTIPLE deaf people for not HEARING their commands (GUESS THEY SHOULDVE JUST LISTENED TO THE POLICE OH WAIT LOL)
Dindus aren't shooting blind people with their walking stick.
Dindus arent shooting/pushing people in wheelchairs.
Dindus arent tackling old ladies.
Dindus aren't grenading newborns and killing children in their own home in bad SWAT raids.
Dindus arent shotgunning litters of kittens
Dindus arent shooting peoples cat for hissing at them.
Dindus arent slamming 11 yr old girls on bicycles
Dindus aren't killing double amputee mental retards in a wheelchair with a pencil
Dindus arent shooting 10 yr old kids who answer THEIR OWN DOOR with a wiimote.
No. These are the types of weird sociopathic crimes that could be ONLY be derived from absolute power with no consequences. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The sooner you morons realize that the cops are a group of bounty hunters for the state no more no less, and not these angelic angels the sooner we can convict these corrupt criminals and stop firing good cops who report these scum.
I've been stopped 9 times with no criminal record. Do you think they nicely go up to me and ask what im doing then kindly go about their day? The stories I could tell about the NYPD I've seen in my own personal life, most of the sheltered cucks on the misc wouldnt believe me.
free image uploading
If most cops are good, then why does every SINGLE whistleblower who reports corrupt cops get threatened and fired?
Many ex-officers have already exposed how corruption starts from the top down and entire departments being corrupt is the usual. Its not everyone else's fault that you are ignorant of this.
The police are a gang. If they weren't they wouldnt have a universal NO RATTING rule. Why a no-snitching-rule if you are obeying the law, isnt that completely pointless? Instead of just reading these likeminded cucks reaffirm your own beliefs. Why dont you learn something about real life?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_wall_of_silence
Dindus aren't torturing and killing retards.
Dindus aren't torturing and killing homeless people.
Dindus aren't shooting MULTIPLE deaf people for not HEARING their commands (GUESS THEY SHOULDVE JUST LISTENED TO THE POLICE OH WAIT LOL)
Dindus aren't shooting blind people with their walking stick.
Dindus arent shooting/pushing people in wheelchairs.
Dindus arent tackling old ladies.
Dindus aren't grenading newborns and killing children in their own home in bad SWAT raids.
Dindus arent shotgunning litters of kittens
Dindus arent shooting peoples cat for hissing at them.
Dindus arent slamming 11 yr old girls on bicycles
Dindus aren't killing double amputee mental retards in a wheelchair with a pencil
Dindus arent shooting 10 yr old kids who answer THEIR OWN DOOR with a wiimote.
No. These are the types of weird sociopathic crimes that could be ONLY be derived from absolute power with no consequences. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The sooner you morons realize that the cops are a group of bounty hunters for the state no more no less, and not these angelic angels the sooner we can convict these corrupt criminals and stop firing good cops who report these scum.
I've been stopped 9 times with no criminal record. Do you think they nicely go up to me and ask what im doing then kindly go about their day? The stories I could tell about the NYPD I've seen in my own personal life, most of the sheltered cucks on the misc wouldnt believe me.
free image uploadingIf most cops are good, then why does every SINGLE whistleblower who reports corrupt cops get threatened and fired?
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Originally Posted By Rayaarito⏩
The American criminal justice system is stacked against people of color. Saying "it's a cop thing" is a pretty poor oversimplification, imo.Wouldn't that go back to it not being a race thing but a cop thing?
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Originally Posted By LightsXout28c⏩
Im not opposed to using harmless, common sense stereotyping to prevent crimes, specially if there is a victim in the ordeal. However, my initial point was that white, affluent college students, at least in my particular area, were using drugs at the same rate if not more than the local neighborhood students, but got caught likely many times more often. Again, I have no true data/evidence other than my subjective experience but I dont think many would doubt what im saying here: stereotyping only works if one group definitively does something more often, and in my example, it isnt true.Well they bring it upon themselves most of the time. I'm a department manager at the store I work in and most of our shoplifters happen to be african american. If a young black man walks in with saggy shorts, chains, etc most likely ill keep an eye on him more than a middle aged white woman since corporate keeps track of how much we lose by theft. I'd be dumb not to. Same with being a teacher. If a certain kid is known to misbehave, i'll have my eyes more on that child compared to the shy quiet girl who never causes issues
The BLM is an extremist movement, unfotunately gaining more and more support even from whites. They are like feminists--the initial message is good but the radical views of the leaders and vocal outspoken members taint the cause and move it past simply justice for blacks to a message of hatred for whites, etc. This doesnt take away from the importance of the initial problem though--that black people do get pestered by police and locked up for dumb shyt like minor drug charges, etc.
If anything, we should be annoyed that our tax dollars are going to feeding and housing someone because they lit up a blunt a couple times.
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You cant just look at current statistics without looking at the devastation committed to blacks by locking up their families in ghettos where they get ****ty access to education, food, job opportunity.
You throw drugs in there and you wonder why hopeless people turn to a life of crime? The idea that blacks are more prone to violence has been debunked with plenty of all black populations in Africa having dirt low crime rates. Why? because there systems arent built to oppress them in many cases.
What BLM is fighting is more than just police brutality, its the idea that we have a bought for justice system where people can pay their way out of jail sentences. That based of your income you may or may not get a second chance, that prisons profit from people being incarcerated which has led to corrupt judges sending black youths to jails for $$ (this has already happened btw, look it up)
People who ask why Blacks dont address chicago, we havebeen you just dont hear about it. Just because you dont know doesnt mean its not HAPPENING.
You throw drugs in there and you wonder why hopeless people turn to a life of crime? The idea that blacks are more prone to violence has been debunked with plenty of all black populations in Africa having dirt low crime rates. Why? because there systems arent built to oppress them in many cases.
What BLM is fighting is more than just police brutality, its the idea that we have a bought for justice system where people can pay their way out of jail sentences. That based of your income you may or may not get a second chance, that prisons profit from people being incarcerated which has led to corrupt judges sending black youths to jails for $$ (this has already happened btw, look it up)
People who ask why Blacks dont address chicago, we havebeen you just dont hear about it. Just because you dont know doesnt mean its not HAPPENING.
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Originally Posted By Rayaarito⏩
I dont care about BLM. I'm just here to educate the cuck cop-apologists that defend scumbag cops while the real cops who report these scumbags get fired and death threats from other officers.Wouldn't that go back to it not being a race thing but a cop thing?
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Originally Posted By Atlas_Army⏩
Im not a supporter of the BLM but this post summarized everything I have been trying to say perfectly. The criminal justice system is all about profit and making money for the state and the "contractors" the state hires out.You cant just look at current statistics without looking at the devastation committed to blacks by locking up their families in ghettos where they get ****ty access to education, food, job opportunity.
You throw drugs in there and you wonder why hopeless people turn to a life of crime? The idea that blacks are more prone to violence has been debunked with plenty of all black populations in Africa having dirt low crime rates. Why? because there systems arent built to oppress them in many cases.
What BLM is fighting is more than just police brutality, its the idea that we have a bought for justice system where people can pay their way out of jail sentences. That based of your income you may or may not get a second chance, that prisons profit from people being incarcerated which has led to corrupt judges sending black youths to jails for $$ (this has already happened btw, look it up)
People who ask why Blacks dont address chicago, we havebeen you just dont hear about it. Just because you dont know doesnt mean its not HAPPENING.
You throw drugs in there and you wonder why hopeless people turn to a life of crime? The idea that blacks are more prone to violence has been debunked with plenty of all black populations in Africa having dirt low crime rates. Why? because there systems arent built to oppress them in many cases.
What BLM is fighting is more than just police brutality, its the idea that we have a bought for justice system where people can pay their way out of jail sentences. That based of your income you may or may not get a second chance, that prisons profit from people being incarcerated which has led to corrupt judges sending black youths to jails for $$ (this has already happened btw, look it up)
People who ask why Blacks dont address chicago, we havebeen you just dont hear about it. Just because you dont know doesnt mean its not HAPPENING.
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Originally Posted By Atlas_Army⏩
Gotta love how the non-copabusenuthuggers are the only people in these threads that actually use any kind of evidence, backdrop and history.You cant just look at current statistics without looking at the devastation committed to blacks by locking up their families in ghettos where they get ****ty access to education, food, job opportunity.
You throw drugs in there and you wonder why hopeless people turn to a life of crime? The idea that blacks are more prone to violence has been debunked with plenty of all black populations in Africa having dirt low crime rates. Why? because there systems arent built to oppress them in many cases.
What BLM is fighting is more than just police brutality, its the idea that we have a bought for justice system where people can pay their way out of jail sentences. That based of your income you may or may not get a second chance, that prisons profit from people being incarcerated which has led to corrupt judges sending black youths to jails for $$ (this has already happened btw, look it up)
People who ask why Blacks dont address chicago, we havebeen you just dont hear about it. Just because you dont know doesnt mean its not HAPPENING.
You throw drugs in there and you wonder why hopeless people turn to a life of crime? The idea that blacks are more prone to violence has been debunked with plenty of all black populations in Africa having dirt low crime rates. Why? because there systems arent built to oppress them in many cases.
What BLM is fighting is more than just police brutality, its the idea that we have a bought for justice system where people can pay their way out of jail sentences. That based of your income you may or may not get a second chance, that prisons profit from people being incarcerated which has led to corrupt judges sending black youths to jails for $$ (this has already happened btw, look it up)
People who ask why Blacks dont address chicago, we havebeen you just dont hear about it. Just because you dont know doesnt mean its not HAPPENING.
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Originally Posted By Atlas_Army⏩
I see now. So, to summarize, you're saying that because the prison system is a for profit system, those without money ( to hire better lawyers and what not) have a hire chance of being thrown into prison. Which escalates the people's crime rates which leads to more stereotyping which leads to more arrests and then the loop is born. And in this case, since blacks happen to be, in general, from poorer areas more often they are caught up in the loop.You cant just look at current statistics without looking at the devastation committed to blacks by locking up their families in ghettos where they get ****ty access to education, food, job opportunity.
You throw drugs in there and you wonder why hopeless people turn to a life of crime? The idea that blacks are more prone to violence has been debunked with plenty of all black populations in Africa having dirt low crime rates. Why? because there systems arent built to oppress them in many cases.
What BLM is fighting is more than just police brutality, its the idea that we have a bought for justice system where people can pay their way out of jail sentences. That based of your income you may or may not get a second chance, that prisons profit from people being incarcerated which has led to corrupt judges sending black youths to jails for $$ (this has already happened btw, look it up)
People who ask why Blacks dont address chicago, we havebeen you just dont hear about it. Just because you dont know doesnt mean its not HAPPENING.
You throw drugs in there and you wonder why hopeless people turn to a life of crime? The idea that blacks are more prone to violence has been debunked with plenty of all black populations in Africa having dirt low crime rates. Why? because there systems arent built to oppress them in many cases.
What BLM is fighting is more than just police brutality, its the idea that we have a bought for justice system where people can pay their way out of jail sentences. That based of your income you may or may not get a second chance, that prisons profit from people being incarcerated which has led to corrupt judges sending black youths to jails for $$ (this has already happened btw, look it up)
People who ask why Blacks dont address chicago, we havebeen you just dont hear about it. Just because you dont know doesnt mean its not HAPPENING.
I did not think of it from that point of view AT ALL. I got you on recharge. What would I have to Google to look into this?
07-09-2016, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted By OhsoClutch⏩
yeah some departments need to be remade from the ground up and there needs to be a system to hold cops acountableIf most cops are good, then why does every SINGLE whistleblower who reports corrupt cops get threatened and fired?
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Originally Posted By Rayaarito⏩
Props for actually being open-minded to discussion. And not just some DINDU spouting retard.I see now. So, to summarize, you're saying that because the prison system is a for profit system, those without money ( to hire better lawyers and what not) have a hire chance of being thrown into prison. Which escalates the people's crime rates which leads to more stereotyping which leads to more arrests and then the loop is born. And in this case, since blacks happen to be, in general, from poorer areas more often they are caught up in the loop.
I did not think of it from that point of view AT ALL. I got you on recharge. What would I have to Google to look into this?
I did not think of it from that point of view AT ALL. I got you on recharge. What would I have to Google to look into this?
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Originally Posted By Rayaarito⏩
Majority of sentencing disparity comes from income, not race. It is a proven fact that people with more income do less time because theyre not using public defenders. As for the judges sending kids to jail ill put the link below. Its called the kids for cash scandal.I see now. So, to summarize, you're saying that because the prison system is a for profit system, those without money ( to hire better lawyers and what not) have a hire chance of being thrown into prison. Which escalates the people's crime rates which leads to more stereotyping which leads to more arrests and then the loop is born. And in this case, since blacks happen to be, in general, from poorer areas more often they are caught up in the loop.
I did not think of it from that point of view AT ALL. I got you on recharge. What would I have to Google to look into this?
I did not think of it from that point of view AT ALL. I got you on recharge. What would I have to Google to look into this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal
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Originally Posted By Rayaarito⏩
OP I think you explained the reasoning perfectly in your first post... If you don't put yourself in a situation with the cops initially, than there will be altercation with police and no loss of life. At the same time, people do make mistakes and that doesn't mean they should lose their life over it.I'm trying to understand what goes through their head and I just can't figure it out. And it's bothering me, 100% srs. So maybe if one of you guys try to pretend to be them and refute what i post you guys can understand it and explain it to me.
The whole issue is that you're saying cops are systematically killing black people. They kill all races. They actually kill whites more. But in terms of population density, they kill blacks more. Both statistically facts. But, blacks have more time associated with cops than whites. Stemming from the fact that they contribute 13% to the population but commit over 50% of violent crimes. So that explains the why the population density is higher and destroys your idea of systematic racism when it comes to cops.
There are different ways of fixing this. One way is giving the cops better training and the other way. The other way is to stop committing the so many crimes that are placing you in this situation. Stop the robbing, the murdering, the dealing, the gangbanging, etc. Both should be done. The latter is also going to stop the stereotypes that you feel is holding you back. Stereotypes are always going to exist, so why not portray a better image.
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Wait. I figured it out.I'm pretty sure that The issue is that police are killing people when they shouldn't. It just happens that since blacks have a higher density number, it happens with them more often so it became a "black thing." Hence Black Lives Matter. When in actuality it should have been a "police need better training thing."
Amirite or amirite
The whole issue is that you're saying cops are systematically killing black people. They kill all races. They actually kill whites more. But in terms of population density, they kill blacks more. Both statistically facts. But, blacks have more time associated with cops than whites. Stemming from the fact that they contribute 13% to the population but commit over 50% of violent crimes. So that explains the why the population density is higher and destroys your idea of systematic racism when it comes to cops.
There are different ways of fixing this. One way is giving the cops better training and the other way. The other way is to stop committing the so many crimes that are placing you in this situation. Stop the robbing, the murdering, the dealing, the gangbanging, etc. Both should be done. The latter is also going to stop the stereotypes that you feel is holding you back. Stereotypes are always going to exist, so why not portray a better image.
Edit from post 18:
Wait. I figured it out.I'm pretty sure that The issue is that police are killing people when they shouldn't. It just happens that since blacks have a higher density number, it happens with them more often so it became a "black thing." Hence Black Lives Matter. When in actuality it should have been a "police need better training thing."
Amirite or amirite
But the BLM folks don't realize the weight that is on a cops shoulder, meaning the life or death choices they have to make sometimes in a split second.
From my personal perspective on it, I see most cops have a certain fear which provokes them using deadly force on these criminals, now do we blame the cops for having this fear or do we blame the criminals?
This is a rough situation, but killing people because they are white or cops is ridiculous, and vice versa.
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Originally Posted By Atlas_Army⏩
It's all good bro, it's just a bunch of green squares.Majority of sentencing disparity comes from income, not race. It is a proven fact that people with more income do less time because theyre not using public defenders. As for the judges sending kids to jail ill put the link below. Its called the kids for cash scandal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal
Ill get you as well since it seems i accidentally negged you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_cash_scandal
Ill get you as well since it seems i accidentally negged you.
But America is based in a capitalist society. Which means money runs almost everything. And the system was in place for long. So how would you even change a system like that? The good lawyers will always go to the guy giving him more incentive (money.)
Plus, wouldn't lowering the crime rate help with that too. I think if you give people from the poorer areas incentive to get a job instead of slanging drugs, the rate would drop. But drug dealing will always make more money than a 9-5 unless you have a unique specialty. Which the average person doesn't. The solution to that drug problem would be to end the drug on wars like usranger said above. But like he said, there's a lot of money in that so that's unlikely.
Or maybe give private schools more incentives to go to these poorer areas to provide better skills to get these better jobs.
I'm just talking out of my ass now. I'm pooped. Great talk though. Thanks for the new perspective
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07-09-2016, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
This is surely an opinion that hasn't been expressed ever before on here.Is blm addressing the black on black crime (which far trumps cops killing blacks)?
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
I dont care about BLM. But Stop-The-Violence parades happen every year in the hood. As well as programs for the youth that promote anti-drug and anti-gang etc etc... Its not everyone else's problem that redneck fake-conservative cucks like you dont know about it.so you don't know the answer either?
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07-09-2016, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted By OhsoClutch⏩
Geez, seems like I rustled some jimmiesI dont care about BLM. But Stop-The-Violence parades happen every year in the hood. As well as programs for the youth that promote anti-drug and anti-gang etc etc... Its not everyone else's problem that redneck fake-conservative cucks like you dont know about it.
I figured they didn't protest those areas as they would likely be shot
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