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post 1457858683 08-16-2016, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted By wolfLarson
what if you lift because you love your genetics and have genuine passion to exceed your personal limits in a fairly controlled environment such as the gym?




Never went through a self hate phase, was well liked in high school and dated the #1 rated chick in my university for a couple years. Through all of that I was hitting the gym for around 1-2 hrs five days a week. e z p z

Ive been literally chased down by model reps, Ive been asked to bang a completely random dudes wife, I've been complimented in just about every way you could be due to physique. While my face is model tierish, it isnt the end all be all. Most chicks like big (muscular) guys: the protection element cannot be overstated.IME, the pretty boys with the expensive clothes didnt land the babes....they got the no assed/underdeveloped ones.

What you label as vanity, I label as trying. Pple usually give a higher baseline of respect to those who try. Those who dont try tend to have a higher baseline of unfounded animosity towards them.

IMO, the logic used to cast bodybuilding and lifting in general could be applied to anything

BRB fat old dude is wearing Kobe shoes in a pickup game, but he sucks. Does he know that he will never be in the NBA. Is his insistence on using $120+ shoes vanity? or can he do whatever the fuk he wants to?

BRB soccer player is bald and short, but plays soccer because, while not bald, Messi is short and he is very good at soccer. Does any goal the player makes a compensation for his height? Does any one point out that his goals dont matter, and that he shouldnt even mention them during his daily watercooler talks?

OP,t the end of the day, nothing matters, you just do what makes you happy.

Stop raining on peoples parades. While you may have better genetics and dont require the same effort others require does not allow you to be a dick.
This is the biggest cope/delusion I've ever read. The pretty boys with good social lives are the ones who get the first pick of the prime glowing women. The women who like muscular men are usually post prime, ugly, trashy low class whores.

Good looking 6ft1 tanned guy is telling us it's his physique doing the work. Tell that to the ugly, manlet, balding, recessed subhumans who makes up the bulk of the "fitness" community.
The reason why lifting is frowned upon (for good reason) its a sport built around narcisissm and insecurity. The Arnold's are the male equivalent of a beauty pageant, with the only judges being homosexual men, not hot women like they want you to believe to make you buy supplements. Other sports are built around dedication, effort, skill, cooperation, ect No one actually ever got laid by BB'ing except the odd 3/10 middle aged tatted trash whore who likes the fetish. I seriously cannot believe how people on here are unaware of what is innately attractive, BBing is NOT it.

Don't equate your aspie lifting hobby to someone engaging in an actual team sport that requires leagues more genetic superiority, dedication and SKILL. The average genetic chit insecure gymgoer wouldn't last a minute doing what Messi or Ronaldo do for breakfest, but they could just easily pick up weights, drop them and inject themselves with creatine to get the admiration of closet homosexuals.

Never compare lifting to a real sport
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Yes, nearly every lifter isn't satisfied with his body. If we were, we wouldn't be trying to change the way our body looks.

And here you are, ragging on the people who have decided to make a change instead of bringing others down. What's the point of this thread?
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Its prob mostly looked down upon by people who are insecure.

Drugs maybe a good part of people absolutely huge, but a big natural lifter will make most people feel insecure about themselves

Das it

Agree with your point about lifting not being a sport, but it still takes a while to get a good body naturally so very few people will get that far
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what if I lift to fill the void of not playing baseball in college anymore and because I'm good at lifting and have the ability to turn pro?
I dunno about you but I enjoy transforming my body and find it really interesting how to manipulate food, water, etc to change body composition etc
Having girls mire and everything else is just a good by product but was never my goal
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Originally Posted By TinderGame
This is the biggest cope/delusion I've ever read. The pretty boys with good social lives are the ones who get the first pick of the prime glowing women. The women who like muscular men are usually post prime, ugly, trashy low class whores.

Good looking 6ft1 tanned guy is telling us it's his physique doing the work. Tell that to the ugly, manlet, balding, recessed subhumans who makes up the bulk of the "fitness" community.
The reason why lifting is frowned upon (for good reason) its a sport built around narcisissm and insecurity. The Arnold's are the male equivalent of a beauty pageant, with the only judges being homosexual men, not hot women like they want you to believe to make you buy supplements. Other sports are built around dedication, effort, skill, cooperation, ect No one actually ever got laid by BB'ing except the odd 3/10 middle aged tatted trash whore who likes the fetish. I seriously cannot believe how people on here are unaware of what is innately attractive, BBing is NOT it.

Don't equate your aspie lifting hobby to someone engaging in an actual team sport that requires leagues more genetic superiority, dedication and SKILL. The average genetic chit insecure gymgoer wouldn't last a minute doing what Messi or Ronaldo do for breakfest, but they could just easily pick up weights, drop them and inject themselves with creatine to get the admiration of closet homosexuals.

Never compare lifting to a real sport
OP looks anorexic therefore he made this thread because he failed at bodybuilding
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gonna have to agree with OP with most of what he said.

Thing is that's why I only lift to put on a decent amount of size where you wouldn't think I was a bodybuilder, but you could tell I lift and look after myself.

Find that fine line and you'll be respected by other men and tail won't run away from you.
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Originally Posted By krazy33
Its prob mostly looked down upon by people who are insecure.

Drugs maybe a good part of people absolutely huge, but abig natural lifter will make most people feel insecure about themselves

Das it

Agree with your point about lifting not being a sport, but it still takes a while to get a good body naturally so very few people will get that far
No such thing unless fat.

You don't know, it's not jealousy or insecurity its pity and awkwardness people feel around gymcels
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OP looks anorexic therefore he made this thread because he failed at bodybuilding
You're 5 years older than me and don't look any better. Any fool can get "big" with the right "supplements", its not something hard or groundbreaking to accomplish
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Originally Posted By TinderGame
The women who like muscular men are usually active/athletic themselves, have better than average genetics, have higher expectations than the average sofa bish, and have life improvement goals rather than life maintenance goals. Good genes attract good genes.

Other sports are built around dedication, effort, skill, cooperation. Even though lifting recreationally is not a sport, it still requires thesge attributes, maybe moreso in some respects due to the individualistic nature of lifting.

Plenty of dudes have gotten laid due to the body they built up....yes, pro level bbing is only attractive to a very small niche of women, but we aren't just talking about pro bbing. the claim was recreational lifting/bbing doesnt help. which is a lie. working out, reaching for your genetic limits, is something every guy should do. it is one of the few ways to gain "presence", and easily has the most primal appeal.

the problem most dudes do is they big, get an inflated ego and act like everyone "has" to do what THEY do.

lift heavy, hard, and often, run as much as you want, enjoy life and new experiences, read plenty of books. Lifting helps in every facet of life, but only if your head follows.

Fixed.

and reread my argument. I wasnt comparing sports to bodybuilding, I just framed your arguement into different contexts. you seem very angry btw.
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Did this guy just make a thread criticizing bodybuilders and people who like to lift? Why do you even care? Just lift dude.

With a physique like that, you should already know that you shouldn't give a fuk about why people lift or what they do with their lives. Its not your life, why do you care about who criticizes who?
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Originally Posted By TinderGame
You're 5 years older than me and don't look any better. Any fool can get "big" with the right "supplements", its not something hard or groundbreaking to accomplish
Just LOL @ how mad you are. Just LDAR and complain like a baby. Whaaaaa bodybuilding is for losers because I can't achieve a good physique

You're pathetic
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Originally Posted By TinderGame
No such thing unless fat.

You don't know, it's not jealousy or insecurity its pity and awkwardness people feel around gymcels



You're 5 years older than me and don't look any better. Any fool can get "big" with the right "supplements", its not something hard or groundbreaking to accomplish
Were using "big" in regular terms

Not juiced body terms

And i dont agree, but i think youre trolling
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Lol @ saying minimal effort is needed to have a good body. I guess that is why the average man can deadlift 600+ lbs and is shredded at 5% BF. Oh wait. The average person is either a fat sack of chit or a scrawny ******* (see OP).
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If you're lifting because you give any kind of a fuk about what others think about you then you are doing it wrong. Lift because you love it not because you think you need it.
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Originally Posted By wolfLarson
Fixed.

and reread my argument. I wasnt comparing sports to bodybuilding, I just framed your arguement into different contexts. you seem very angry btw.
You're missing the point, no one with good genes lifts or engages in the activity, men or women. People with good genetics automatically look good. Lol @ thinking top model women with god tier fat distribution and genetics waste their time squatting to get "booty".

Lifting for most people isn't life improvement, it's an escape out of chitty genes, for men and women both, coupled with mild narcissism. Avg gym sloot is a caked up 3-4/10 whose high maintenance with security problems. The exact same as the male equivalent.

Working out doesn't get you laid with quality women, it isn't primal attraction, hypertrophy muscles look weird and not natural. Overall its your face, skull, frame, height hair combo that does 95% of the work and these arenatural and primal, and these cannot be improved. If you have these you will be attractive, and thus the self fulfilling paradigm of lifting ends. People lift to look better, even though it doesn't make a big difference, those who look good and have social lives don't bother with the act seriously.

I enjoy lifting and doing it for myself, but I'm not going to lie and act like it's something amazing, its not. It doesn't make any real difference in quality of life, girls, respect, ect.
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I love how almost everybody itt is discussing what it's like to be 6ft shredded around normal people without actually knowing what it is like, or even seeing how these guys are treated in public.


Absolutely guarantee you, every woman gets wet at the sight of a guy 6' 1, 210 shredded.
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Originally Posted By 420Layers
I love how almost everybody itt is discussing what it's like to be 6ft shredded around normal people without actually knowing what it is like, or even seeing how these guys are treated in public.

Absolutely guarantee you, every woman gets wet at the sight of a guy 6' 1, 210 shredded.
Again, it's the height, frame, face and hair that does it. Not the muscles, not at all. There are millions of studies that show muscles aren't very attractive and have repulsion effect often times

I know plenty of FA 6ft+ dudes with jacked roidcel bodies. If your face isn't there she will never get "wet". Muscles aren't like tits and ass, hypertrophy doesn't look natural. when will you people stop coping. if your face was there from the start, squating and bench press would be the furthest thing from your mind, since you'd already be attractive


This is how it goes for 90% of men at the gym

Ugly/flawed >> Start lifting >> Still ugly + jacked now >> People now think you have a complex >> Body loses its halo effect >> Back to Ugly/Flawed - body + people now think you have complex.

If you're ugly or flawed you shouldn't lift
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Originally Posted By TinderGame
Again, it's the height, frame, face and hair that does it. Not the muscles, not at all. There are millions of studies that show muscles aren't very attractive and have repulsion effect often times

I know plenty of FA 6ft+ dudes with jacked roidcel bodies. If your face isn't there she will never get "wet". Muscles aren't like tits and ass, hypertrophy doesn't look natural. when will you people stop coping. And if your face was there from the start, squating and bench press would be the furthest thing from your mind, since you'd already be attractive
How pathetic is your existence?

Are you seriously saying the only reason to get squat, bench, dl up is for chicks? Only reason to put on muscle is for chicks?

How anybody could ever enjoy being a weak twink is beyond me.
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Can confirm I am super insecure I just hide it well. A lot of people I know got into lifting bc they had to for sports in high school and so they just kept doing it. I agree with your point but girls actually care about physique so if you downplay how much time you devote to bodybuilding it works in your favor. For example, I went out last night and sloot friend kept grabbing my arms and nudging my chest after she had a couple drinks. Lifting is also just very therapeutic for me and helps keep me sane and somewhat driven.
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itt op admits hes a weak pretty boy who is mad he makes no gains and he prolly got beatup by someone much bigger than him is why he hates bodybuilders
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Not surprised this is coming from the most insecure beta on this forum.
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Originally Posted By 420Layers
How pathetic is your existence?

Are you seriously saying the only reason to get squat, bench, dl up is for chicks? Only reason to put on muscle is for chicks?

How anybody could ever enjoy being a weak twink is beyond me.
I'm just saying, you couldn't be more wrong by saying every women get "wet" to 6ft1 210 shredded. If you don't have the face, it won't work, and if face + height is already enough the muscles wouldn't matter. The only examples of muscles working are when they are coupled with face + hair + height, and again the hair + height + face combo would work without muscles anyway

The average guy isn't a twink, only framecels aka guys with weak bones and hormones are twinks. These guys are flawed. The reason you don't want to look like a "twink" is because you are insecure probably, referring back to point 1: you're flawed; thus you lift
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Originally Posted By TinderGame
Your default natural looks is what gets you girls and respect along with your innate behavior. Trying to change these or compensate by lifting is just showing to everyone else that you were flawed from the start. No person engages in such aspie, baseless vanity unless they have a complex, be it napoleonic, skinny BDD, smallcocked syndrome, ect
That's just dumb... Why do anything at all in that case? Why attempt to improve in any way?

No doubt that's what you do eh bro? Spend your life on Misc, on Tinder, kicking a football about wasting your life cos nothing matters
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I only agree with what you are saying if you aspire to look like Rich Piana.

I sit in an office all day and humans aren't meant to be stationary. Swinging around some heavy weight is good and natural.
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Originally Posted By NotANun21
That's just dumb... Why do anything at all in that case? Why attempt to improve in any way?

No doubt that's what you do eh bro? Spend your life on Misc, on Tinder, kicking a football about wasting your life cos nothing matters
It really doesn't because we all die in the end.
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Originally Posted By TinderGame
I'm just saying, you couldn't be more wrong by saying women get "wet" to 6ft1 210 shredded. If you don't have the face, it won't work, and if face + height is already enough the muscles wouldn't matter. The only examples of muscles working are when the are coupled with face + hair + height, and again the hair + height + face combo would work without muscles anyway

The average guy isn't a twink, only framecels aka guys with weak bones and hormones are twinks. These guys are flawed. The reason you don't want to look like a "twink" is because you are insecure probably, referring back to point 1: flawed
You have issues. If you think height, hair, face has that much weight than you have a skewed vision of the world.

You really think you have to be 6'2 220 shredded with a full head of thick hair and a 10/10 face to make chicks wet and talk to you?

Dudes on my soccer team used to have chicks all over them and they were 5'7 and skinny. It's called being personable and having game. Confidence in who you are takes you a long way. Everyone will get rejected at one point, but being you is better than being some FA ******* who has a better face and frame.

So are you saying I can't get chicks wet because I'm bald? LOL and you have problems if you lift solely for women. I lift for strength and pushing myself to see where I can go.

edit: btw I attracted women 10 fold to when I did before I started lifting. I lifted purely for soccer and my physique change changed my life
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Originally Posted By TinderGame
I'm just saying, you couldn't be more wrong by saying every women get "wet" to 6ft1 210 shredded. If you don't have the face, it won't work, and if face + height is already enough the muscles wouldn't matter. The only examples of muscles working are when they are coupled with face + hair + height, and again the hair + height + face combo would work without muscles anyway

The average guy isn't a twink, only framecels aka guys with weak bones and hormones are twinks. These guys are flawed. The reason you don't want to look like a "twink" is because you are insecure probably, referring back to point 1: you're flawed; thus you lift
Why are you on bodybuilding.com?
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It's a good thing I don't give a **** what others think. And for reference, i'm bedding 3-5 different girls a month now compared to 0 when I was obese and that's with a mediocre physique. Imagine when i'm actually shredded and big.

People saying girls don't get wet over guys that take care of themselves are fuking coping or your face is literally busted because it makes a world of difference. I had 0 interest as a fat fuk and then a skinny fat fuk during my transformation.

Girls want guys that separate themselves from the pack and in america the pack is skinny fat or just fat.
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Bullied introvert checking in. Yeah you're pretty much spot on tbh
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[QUOTE=WhoaBro21;1457796633]When I got big (big, not shredded. Bear mode, 18% bodyfat) girls automatically thought I had a big dick. I'm 5'11 but they think I'm some "tall guy" (been used as a description to point me out) like I'm some 6'2 master race slayer. I've got big balls and above average girth but normal (6") length. It makes my bulge bigger. But my dick has been the same size for years. It wasn't until I was over 220 pounds that girls really started to act different. Like think I had a big dick. Always looking at my crotch when I'm sitting down (like a quick glance) being super friendly/flirty even telling me "I bet you have a big dick". Lifting works. If you lift and don't have a big dick you'll smash.[b]But just once. Which I guess is ok[/b]/QUOTE]


Rofl bro im fuking dying i used to do this chit when i was younger. Talk all big like i have a fuking foot long python thats gonna make some bitch scream then get drunk have whisky dick spend 20mins trying to shove a limp noodle in there then suck on a titty and go fukit and pass out. Felt like a catfish legit roflroflrofl.


Dgaf cuz id always get to play wih some boobies and get my fingers wet. Plus gave me fap material.
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