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Originally Posted By StrongFella⏩
conjecture
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an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

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form an opinion or supposition about (something) on the basis of incomplete information.
Right. This is all anyone can actually do in this case.
Originally Posted By StrongFella⏩
And on the subject of both of them being intoxicated... her level of intoxication is irrelevant, especially at the point of her passing out.No body should ever drink to the point of not being able to make rational decisions.The people around you being drunk does not excuse what you do.
So you agree she shouldn't have gone to a party and drank to excess. Neither of them should have. The point I'm making is that either BOTH are responsible for what they do while drunk, or NEITHER of them are.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Right. This is all anyone can actually do in this case.




So you agree she shouldn't have gone to a party and drank to excess. Neither of them should have. The point I'm making is that either BOTH are responsible for what they do while drunk, or NEITHER of them are.
Never said she shouldn't have drank to excess. It's her fault she got intoxicated enough to pass out. It's not her fault what happen to her while she was passed out.
Consequence, yes. Deserved consequence, obviously not.
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Originally Posted By StrongFella⏩
Never said she shouldn't have drank to excess. It's her fault she got intoxicated enough to pass out. It's not her fault what happen to her while she was passed out.
It's like you have this disconnect when it comes to holding her FULLY accountable for her actions. She got herself behind that dumpster. At what point she passed out is unknown. For all you know, she was sucking his dink for 10 minutes, then he gets her pants off and starts fuking her. At some point she passes out, but he doesn't notice. How is that rape? She seemed consenting. She was conscious when they began.

It's ALL conjecture. Both yours, & my guesses as to what may have happened are just that: Guesses.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
It's like you have this disconnect when it comes to holding her FULLY accountable for her actions. She got herself behind that dumpster. At what point she passed out is unknown. For all you know, she was sucking his dink for 10 minutes, then he gets her pants off and starts fuking her. At some point she passes out, but he doesn't notice. How is that rape? She seemed consenting. She was conscious when they began.

It's ALL conjecture. Both yours, & my guesses as to what may have happened are just that: Guesses.
She could have let him have anal sex with her while she was awake. It is a fact people saw him performing sex acts on her unconscious body. That's not consensual, no matter how you slice it.

If the final point of your argument is that both our stances are conjectures (similie: assumptions), they why even bother trying to make counter points at all?
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Originally Posted By StrongFella⏩
She could have let him have anal sex with her while she was awake. It is a fact people saw him performing sex acts on her unconscious body. That's not consensual, no matter how you slice it.

If the final point of your argument is that both our stances are conjectures (similie: assumptions), they why even bother trying to make counter points at all?
Because you don't know how they got to the point where the intercourse began. It could have been totally consensual for all you know. I've made my argument. You have no counter argument that doesn't involve total conjecture. If your only argument is what eye witnesses saw, then you should know that eye witness testimony is considered extremely unreliable in court. So we're back to conjecture.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Because you don't know how they got to the point where the intercourse began. It could have been totally consensual for all you know. I've made my argument. You have no counter argument that doesn't involve total conjecture. If your only argument is what eye witnesses saw, then you should know that eye witness testimony is considered extremely unreliable in court. So we're back to conjecture.
Let us say she consented then... So you think consent does not end once some one goes unconscious? That ludicrous.

You are painting yourself a hypocrite. You already admitted your argument was conjecture. You have used that word a lot.
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Originally Posted By StrongFella⏩
Let us say she consented then... So you think consent does not end once some one goes unconscious? That ludicrous.
It's not ludicrous. It goes back to my argument about consent and responsibility. If she consented to the sex (which you can't say one way or another) and he had no knowledge she'd gone unconscious, it isn't rape. You can't prove he knew. All we "know" for sure is that they both went behind the dumpster willingly.
Originally Posted By StrongFella⏩
You are painting yourself a hypocrite. You already admitted your argument was conjecture. You have used that word a lot.
I said both our arguments are conjecture. Nothing I've said is hypocritical. You can't prove 1 iota of what happened behind the dumpster. All we know is they had intercourse, during which at some point she lost consciousness. You can't say if he knew or not. She put herself in that situation, and so did he. Both made the choice to drink so heavily that neither could make proper decisions. You seem to think he should get the book thrown at him, but she was somehow a victim when they both did the SAME thing.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
It's not ludicrous. It goes back to my argument about consent and responsibility. If she consented to the sex (which you can't say one way or another) and he had no knowledge she'd gone unconscious, it isn't rape. You can't prove he knew. All we "know" for sure is that they both went behind the dumpster willingly.



I said both our arguments are conjecture. Nothing I've said is hypocritical. You can't prove 1 iota of what happened behind the dumpster. All we know is they had intercourse, during which at some point she lost consciousness. You can't say if he knew or not. She put herself in that situation, and so did he. Both made the choice to drink so heavily that neither could make proper decisions. You seem to think he should get the book thrown at him, but she was somehow a victim when they both did the SAME thing.
This is tiring. It is a FACT people came upon the guy performing sex on her unconscious body. It does not matter what she said she was willing to do WHILE SHE WAS CONSCIOUS.

You talk about 'then she shouldn't have put herself in that situation.' That's incredibly dense and insensitive. If your (possibly hypothetical) daughter had this happen to her, you would not be saying that, man. This isn't a cut and dry sloots gonna Sloot scenario.

And I have yet to state anything about the punitive measure that shouldn't or shouldn't be taken against the guy, so I don't know what you are saying when you typed I seem like I want the book thrown at him.

And they both didn't do the same thing, she didnt perform sex acts on an unconscious body.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
It's not ludicrous. It goes back to my argument about consent and responsibility. If she consented to the sex (which you can't say one way or another) and he had no knowledge she'd gone unconscious, it isn't rape. You can't prove he knew. All we "know" for sure is that they both went behind the dumpster willingly.



I said both our arguments are conjecture. Nothing I've said is hypocritical. You can't prove 1 iota of what happened behind the dumpster. All we know is they had intercourse, during which at some point she lost consciousness. You can't say if he knew or not. She put herself in that situation, and so did he. Both made the choice to drink so heavily that neither could make proper decisions.You seem to think he should get the book thrown at him, but she was somehow a victim when they both did the SAME thing.
she didn't finger an unconscious body.

Since you're going to argue that:

1) we don't know if she was unconscious and that it's conjecture

2) he may or may not be aware that she was unconscious (LMAO) and arguing either way is conjecture

Just answer the question below so I can have an iota of faith that you aren't so jaded by SJW's and the leftist media that you refuse to see how a guy could be in the wrong. I mean I hate them as much as anyone but fuk.

Turner and sloot go behind a dumpster. Sloot passes out. Turner continues fingering her after she passes out while being fully aware that she is passed out. Will you hold Turner accountable and guilty? Ffs don't avoid the question.
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Originally Posted By StrongFella⏩
This is tiring. It is a FACT people came upon the guy performing sex on her unconscious body. It does not matter what she said she was willing to do WHILE SHE WAS CONSCIOUS.
I'm sorry if you don't enjoy debate, but her becoming unconscious isn't germane. I guess exigent circumstances don't matter to you?
Originally Posted By StrongFella⏩
You talk about 'then she shouldn't have put herself in that situation.'That's incredibly dense and insensitive.If your (possibly hypothetical) daughter had this happen to her, you would not be saying that, man. This isn't a cut and dry sloots gonna Sloot scenario.
Plea to emotion. As was already stated by another miscer, you make emotional, not logical arguments. Facts don't care about sensitivity. If I had a daughter, it wouldn't be relevant to the facts of this case. I would hope that people who practice law don't let things like that cloud their judgement. I'm glad you aren't presiding over any court cases. I hope you're never on a jury.
Originally Posted By StrongFella⏩
And I have yet to state anything about the punitive measure that shouldn't or shouldn't be taken against the guy, so I don't know what you are saying when you typed I seem like I want the book thrown at him.
Your previous statement seems to infer that you want him punished. Your "if you had a daughter argument" seems aimed at inciting an emotional rage response. Why would you want me to get angry about what he did if you don't think he deserves punishment?
Originally Posted By StrongFella⏩
And they both didn't do the same thing, she did perform sex acts on an unconscious body.
Conjecture. You don't know what happened at all. If he's blackout drunk, he's unconscious too. What now?
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Originally Posted By LIFTplusHOCKEY⏩
Turner and sloot go behind a dumpster. Sloot passes out. Turner continues fingering her after she passes outwhile being fully aware that she is passed out. Will you hold Turner accountable and guilty? Ffs don't avoid the question.
Prove to me he was fully aware of her being passed out. If you can do that, then yes he's guilty.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Prove to me he was fully aware of her being passed out.If you can do that, then yes he's guilty.
I won't prove that because I can't. It is kind of lol worthy though if Brock is so retarded that he can't tell he is fingering someone who's unconscious. We all have pain receptors and there's always somewhat of a reaction at any sort of pain/pleasure. Her being unconscious would mean she wasn't reacting at all and was just laying there. If someone tickles someone, fingers them, or slaps them, then doesn't see any sort of reaction from them, and still doesn't understand that they're not conscious then I would have to give them retard tier IQ. Anyway, not getting into that any further. You're not as crazy as I thought you were. Carry on.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
I'm sorry if you don't enjoy debate, but her becoming unconscious isn't germane. I guess exigent circumstances don't matter to you?

Plea to emotion. As was already stated by another miscer, you make emotional, not logical arguments. Facts don't care about sensitivity. If I had a daughter, it wouldn't be relevant to the facts of this case. I would hope that people who practice law don't let things like that cloud their judgement. I'm glad you aren't presiding over any court cases. I hope you're never
I'm not making a plea to your emotions. You are incredibly dense, there for trying to present a similar scenario to perhaps make you see the flaws in your argument.

The rest of this paragraph is simply passive aggressive insults towards my critical thinking in relations to this topic, therefore not relevant to the actual discussion of the topic.

Your previous statement seems to infer that you want him punished. Your "if you had a daughter argument" seems aimed at inciting an emotional rage response. Why would you want me to get angry about what he did if you don't think he deserves punishment?
This begins with an incorrect assumption and makes the rest of this paragraph invalid.
Conjecture. You don't know what happened at all. If he's blackout drunk, he's unconscious too. What now?
If he was blackout drunk, I feel it would be pertinent for his defense to have stated such...

This is exhausting. More circles.

In the end you ar minimising (which is a form of defending ) what a convicted sex offender did, and I'm not. Have a good night.
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Originally Posted By LIFTplusHOCKEY⏩
I won't prove that because I can't. It is kind of lol worthy though if Brock is so retarded that he can't tell he is fingering someone who's unconscious. We all have pain receptors and there's always somewhat of a reaction at any sort of pain/pleasure. Her being unconscious would mean she wasn't reacting at all and was just laying there. If someone tickles someone, fingers them, or slaps them, then doesn't see any sort of reaction from them, and still doesn't understand that they're not conscious then I would have to give them retard tier IQ. Anyway, not getting into that any further. You're not as crazy as I thought you were. Carry on.
Maybe he couldn't tell because he was ****-faced drunk.
Originally Posted By StrongFella⏩
I'm not making a plea to your emotions..
You should probably Google this. You categorically are making a plea to emotions.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-emotion
Originally Posted By StrongFella⏩
This begins with an incorrect assumptionand makes the rest of this paragraph invalid.
In your opinion. Your opinion is not "Fact". Great way to totally dismiss an argument without making a legitimate rebuttal though. 10/10, would read again.

Originally Posted By StrongFella⏩
f he was blackout drunk, I feel it would be pertinent for his defense to have stated such...
Maybe I should have been a lawyer.
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Originally Posted By FlexLex⏩
I thought I was one of the most anti-female posters here but wow some of you are ridiculous.

He was walking her home and she was so bombed that they both collapsed behind a dumpster. They start making out and after that no one knows for sure until two people come by and see him on top of her, with her clothes down, unconscious, and the first thing this dude does is run as soon as he is seen. He obviously knows he is doing something wrong. The girl is passed out.

In all likelyhood he probably did rape her, but you cant prove it at all. He sexually assaulted someone who made a mistake and drank too much.

I understand where the grey area is here--there is obviously a blurred line when you cant tell if someone is too drunk or not, if you are engaging in sex and someone passes out, there obviously a time where you arent aware of it possibly. You are not constantly checking in to see if you still have consent.

However this case is so cut and dry. Theres two witnesses with no motivation to lie. Theres the fact the dude gets up and ran as soon as he is caught. Theres the fact that she is completely passed out.

This is the case that should ALWAYS be found guilty. I understand where the skepticism comes from regarding these issues as males, but come on bros, its completely black and white. Theres no scneario here where the guy is innocent.
What are you going on about? He was found guilty and sentenced to jail.
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took me a whole page to realize you weren't talking about this guy...

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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Maybe he couldn't tell because he was ****-faced drunk.
So since he was ****-faced drunk he couldn't tell that she had no oohs and aahs going and no reaction whatsoever to what I imagine is him fingering the phuck out of her? He couldn't see that she wasn't moving whatsoever because "he was drunk"?
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Originally Posted By LIFTplusHOCKEY⏩
So since he was ****-faced drunk he couldn't tell that she had no oohs and aahs going and no reaction whatsoever to what I imagine is him fingering the phuck out of her? He couldn't see that she wasn't moving whatsoever because "he was drunk"?
Have you never been blackout drunk before?
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Have you never been blackout drunk before?
Blacked out at a party a week ago.

Literally remember showing up and that's it, apparently I said some things and did some things I'd never consider doing.

I don't know if you could sexually assault a girl while blacked out if you are a decent non-sexually frustrated guy, but I think it's possible. It has to be an absolute nightmare, if he has no honestly recollection of anything I feel terrible for the guy.

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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Have you never been blackout drunk before?
If by blackout drunk you mean passed out, yes. If you mean nearly passing out, yes. In neither of those cases did I have the energy or willpower to finger someone and I would still be able to see whether an object is moving or not. You don't start assuming that street lights start to walk and breath when you're drunk.

Have you never fingered a girl?

Because in either case, and even assuming I lost my sense of touch and had gloves on, I would still be able to tell if I'm putting my hand/dick inside a moving vagina or sticking my hand in and out of a bagel that has no reaction or even if I'm fingering a dead/unconscious body. You really don't need to be sober to see that someone is passed out and you certainly don't need to finger someone to be able to figure that out although you certainly should be able to decipher that at that point.
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Originally Posted By 40ozDrank⏩
Blacked out at a party a week ago.

Literally remember showing up and that's it, apparently I said some things and did some things I'd never consider doing.

I don't know if you could sexually assault a girl while blacked out if you are a decent non-sexually frustrated guy, but I think it's possible.

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Originally Posted By LIFTplusHOCKEY⏩
If by blackout drunk you mean passed out, yes. If you mean nearly passing out, yes. In neither of those cases did I have the energy or willpower to finger someone and I would still be able to see whether an object is moving or not. You don't start assuming that street lights start to walk and breath when you're drunk.

Have you never fingered a girl?

Because in either case, and even assuming I lost my sense of touch and had gloves on, I would still be able to tell if I'm putting my hand/dick inside a moving vagina or sticking my hand in and out of a bagel that has no reaction or even if I'm fingering a dead/unconscious body. You really don't need to be sober to see that someone is passed out and you certainly don't need to finger someone to be able to figure that out although you certainly should be able to decipher that at that point.
Yes, I've fingered a few girls. Read 40oz's post.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
How much have you read about this case, aside from mainstream media (written or video format) or here on the misc?

Here's what I've read about it:

-The girl went to the party fully intending to get wasted.
-A little conjecture here, but people don't go to parties with the intention of getting wasted if they aren't also looking to likely hook up (I can't prove state of mind, but it can be inferred that this is often the case)
-Her sister shows up at some point after she's had a lot to drink, but said she seemed lucid
-She and Brock hit it off and make out, & drink more
-They decide together to go somewhere more secluded/quiet
-The end up behind the dumpster where she proceeds to pass out

Now, we don't know how blitzed he was, but they were both extremely drunk. This is where I think the whole consent thing gets retarded. If 2 drunken parties (who obviously both chose to drink, and should thus both accept the consequences of their actions) engage in sexual activity with each other, then either both are incapable of consent, or both are considered consenting. In EVERY case we see like this, both parties were drunk, but somehow it's the guy who gets held accountable and the women is treated as the victim. We don't know when she passed out. The fact that he ran when confronted by 2 guys isn't necessarily proof he knew he was doing something wrong. Who knows what was going through his head; Again, he was wasted. 2 guys yell at you while you're having sex.. you're drunk as fuk.. how do you know how you'd react?

I'm not calling him a saint or something, I'm saying that they both made their choices that night, and what happened during the time spent behind the dumpster is contentious/unknown.
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Originally Posted By LIFTplusHOCKEY⏩
If by blackout drunk you mean passed out, yes. If you mean nearly passing out, yes. In neither of those cases did I have the energy or willpower to finger someone and I would still be able to see whether an object is moving or not. You don't start assuming that street lights start to walk and breath when you're drunk.

Have you never fingered a girl?

Because in either case, and even assuming I lost my sense of touch and had gloves on, I would still be able to tell if I'm putting my hand/dick inside a moving vagina or sticking my hand in and out of a bagel that has no reaction or even if I'm fingering a dead/unconscious body. You really don't need to be sober to see that someone is passed out and you certainly don't need to finger someone to be able to figure that out although you certainly should be able to decipher that at that point.
No dude, a blackout is when you flood your brain with so much alcohol, your central executive part of the prefrontal cortex at the front of the brain shuts off and you lose all short term recollection. Passing out happens past this point, although if you don't know your limits you can go from:

A. Drunk -----> C. Passed out. If you pace yourself well, you will lose all memory, but not pass out (insert step B.)

I've woken up with my sleeves covered in blood before, no memory of what happened, and freaked out thinking I murdered someone in a blackout once, but I really had just cut myself semi-deeply on a fence. They suck ass, and they happen
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
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Yes, I've fingered a few girls. Read 40oz's post.
I did. Not remembering what happens / not having enough consciousness to think your actions through still doesn't mean you can't tell if a girl is passed out or not. All I'm saying.
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Originally Posted By LIFTplusHOCKEY⏩
I did. Not remembering what happens / not having enough consciousness to think your actions through still doesn't mean you can't tell if a girl is passed out or not. All I'm saying.
It's sort of a gray area. If you don't remember it, and it's also possible you don't know what you're doing while you're doing it (blackout drunk usually = autopilot).. well nuff said. You may be right though. We don't know what his state of mind was.
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Originally Posted By 40ozDrank⏩
No dude, a blackout is when you flood your brain with so much alcohol, your central executive part of the prefrontal cortex at the front of the brain shuts off and you lose all short term recollection. Passing out happens past this point, although if you don't know your limits you can go from:

A. Drunk -----> C. Passed out. If you pace yourself well, you will lose all memory, but not pass out (insert step B.)
Ok fine, I'm not arguing against that. We've all had nights we don't remember. It still doesn't mean we aren't accountable for our actions during that time. I just have a hard time believing the dude couldn't tell she was passed out. Was it possible he was too drunk to not care? Sure. Is it kinda unfortunate for him? Sure. To say he didn't realise though? That's ridiculous. Until unless it was his first time fingering a girl I can't believe he didn't realise she was unconscious.
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Originally Posted By LIFTplusHOCKEY⏩
Ok fine, I'm not arguing against that. We've all had nights we don't remember. It still doesn't mean we aren't accountable for our actions during that time. I just have a hard time believing the dude couldn't tell she was passed out. Was it possible he was too drunk to not care? Sure. Is it kinda unfortunate for him? Sure. To say he didn't realise though? That's ridiculous. Until unless it was his first time fingering a girl I can't believe he didn't realise she was unconscious.
The accountability argument is fine if you agree they were both accountable for getting themselves drunk, and putting themselves into a less than desirable situation. That said, if they were both so ****-faced they couldn't control themselves, then either they BOTH should be held accountable for their actions, or NEITHER should. Somehow our "Justice" system always seems to hold the man accountable, and abdicates the female. It's not hard to see why, given many of the posts in this thread. People have a natural inclination to defend women.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
The accountability argument is fine if you agree they were both accountable for getting themselves drunk, and putting themselves into a less than desirable situation. That said, if they were both so ****-faced they couldn't control themselves, then either they BOTH should be held accountable for their actions, or NEITHER should. Somehow our "Justice" system always seems to hold the man accountable, and abdicates the female. It's not hard to see why, given many of the posts in this thread. People have a natural inclination to defend women.
I agree with most of your post. People do have a natural inclination to defend women. 1 man - 100 women can reproduce 100 offspring.

100 men - 1 women can't, etc. Plus men want to get laid a lot, women have an easier time getting laid. It's why IMO we even have this ridiculous women worshipping culture.

Her getting drunk isn't the smartest thing to do but you can't legally punish someone for getting black out drunk. I mean, yea it's probably not recommended but what law did she exactly break here?
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Originally Posted By LIFTplusHOCKEY⏩
I mean, yea it's probably not recommended but what law did she exactly break here?
That's a solid argument. They're both drunk, they're both incapable of making rational decisions (through their own choice to get plastered), she definitely didn't break any laws. Even though he may not remember what he did, and may not have even really been conscious of what he was doing while he was doing it, he did choose to put himself in that drunken state, so his actions are still his responsibility.

I think them both being smashed is probably why the judge gave him some leniency and didn't hit him with a full rape conviction. I'm sure he mulled over all these arguments (and some we haven't thought of).
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Funny thing is, I have been exactly in this situation, but I was the rapee...

The facts:
-Friday night work drinks turned into an all nighter.
-next day had a tour in the winery planned, i was fuked so managed to source some charlie to keep the bender going.
-picked up 4 grams.
-at about 8am started snorting, bus picked us up at 9.
-winery all day drinking and snorting.
-met two girls who were both DTF.
-out of my mind on coke and booze they gave me some molly.
-everyone back to my house, i remember sitting next to one of the girls, half asleep but lying next to her.
-next minute i remember waking up and she was sucking me off, trying to get me hard.
-other girl was next to her (lol after that much coke i'm surprised she could even see my cock).
-other girl then put two fingers up my ass, i was like "what are you doing" she was like getting you hard...
-Wierdly...this worked. Got hard. Girl started fuking me...i passed out. Woke up and other girl is fuking me, other girl has fingers up my ass.
-passed out.
-woke up in the morning and both girls are naked around me. My ass hole is bleeding because they were not gentle, i had scratches on my nut sack and my pubes were filled with lady gism.
-asked both girls what happened. Without even pausing they admitted to the threesome, the fingers up the ass, fuking me while I was asleep, slapping my balls (trying to get me to come)...all while passing in and out of consciousness. They also knew i was high as fuk, had been drinking all day and all night and all day....




Lets check the options here...did I
A) cry rape
B) Play the victim card
C) press charges for the digitally raping me
D) Take one of them into the shower and fuk her brains out. Then tell my boys what happened and had a laugh and a beer about it.



I will let you be the judge.
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