OP sounds like my dad srs

Yes it is a very bad and modern translation. Made to fit the absurdity of a glove earth.

Pearl Harbor?

I have never called someone stupid. I say open your eyes and think, for the first time in your life.

Yes there is a big difference. We are on a flat disc.

There are not two poles. You were told that as was I and we believed it. You were looking from a fish eye window/lens.

Agreed.

because you are afraid and are stuck in what you have been told without any thought you assume. The ancient Hebrews believd like all others that the earth was flat. The sheer absurdity of a globe spinning around in a massive void, space, would have been as ludicrous to them as it is to any thinking logical human now.

I don't believe it because it has been disproven repeatedly. Research my friend.

No I am here to make you think for the first time in your life.

My thoughts? You are a moron.

really easily disproved especially if you frequent the ocean on a boat. A lot of days you will see the clouds work their way from above your head to the very edge of the horizon. When you look dead on, completely horizontal your eyes will eventually meet cloud at the very edge of the horizon. There is water and then there is simply cloud. Its extremely obvious at this point that the earth has to be round otherwise how could a cloud exist at the same elevation as you. Obviously relative to where it is located on the earth it is still at a similar elevation to the clouds directly above you, but because the earth curves eventually these clouds will reach your eye level if you were to look out horizontally over the ocean.

Its even more obvious when you can see the angle of clouds. They appear to gradually lower in elevation from the point above your head the further you look towards the horizon, which is again because the earth is curved. Really basic sh!t tbh.

Was hoping to get in on a seal thread, left disapoint.

Firstly, most of you are going to laugh and think haha nother miscer trolling. No I am not trolling. This is real. Now immediately your brain is dismissing me as stupid. This couldn't possibly be real says your brain. Well tell your brain to shut up for a second and create an open-mind. Okay. Good. Now with your mind open, let me present to you somefacts.

There are two north poles:

"To complicate things even more, there are two different definitions of the North Pole. The first is the north magnetic pole, which is, quite literally,a magnetic phenomenon which changes daily depending on changes under the Earth's crust.Additionally, there is a north terrestrial pole, which is the fixed point that references the top of the Earth."

See the bolded. Does that not sound strange to you? Your brain will attempt to now close your open-mind and dismiss this, despite not understanding what magnetics really is at all. We can describe it. But we have no idea what the hell it is. It is like an imaginary force. So tell your brain to shut up again. Now ask yourself, why on earth would it change daily? It is simply metals and lava under there, correct? There is nothing inside that is changing daily under our current surface earth theory. Surface earth theory simply just ignores it. It has no explanation. Hollow earth explains it easily. There is an intelligent force underneath that is changing it. Do you honestly think a bunch of lava and rocks can create something so bizarre as magnetic forces? These forces even protect our earth from space. You really think lava and rocks mashed together can create something that even the intelligent design of humans cannot replicate. Seriously?

Aurora Borealis:

Edmond Halley in 1692 put forth the idea of Earth consisting of a hollow shell about 800 km (500 miles) thick, two inner concentric shells and an innermost core, about the diameters of the planets Venus, Mars, and Mercury. Atmospheres separate these shells, and each shell has its own magnetic poles. The spheres rotate at different speeds. Halley proposed this scheme in order to explain anomalous compass readings. He envisaged the atmosphere inside as luminous (and possibly inhabited) and speculated that escaping gas caused the Aurora Borealis.

Your brain is saying he's wrong, right? We figured out that the aurora comes from space. Well you would be wrong.

"Scientists only recently discovered that the bulk of the plasma or ions that are injected into the Earth's magnetosphere are actually from the Earth's polar cleft ion fountains, not the sun. Indeed, the Earth's magnetosphere is buffeted by solar ion winds, but what causes the auroral displays are actually sourced by ions from the Earth."

So we've been lied to and accepted a fact that is incorrect. Strange, huh?

UFOs:

If it truly is impossible for matter to travel beyond the speed of light, as NASA claims, then where on Earth do UFOs come from? The only plausible surface earth explanation is military. Most of the sightings actually come from fighter pilots. But okay, they're not really part of top secret research. However you only really research something to put it into action. You can have ideas and create something out of this world that isn't cost-effective. Much like a custom-designed car put on show that will never sell. However we saw an example of this with the Blue Light aircraft that flew over LA not that long ago. The military even put out a public statement prior to the flight letting us know about it. It is a perfect example of testing confused as a UFO, but they told us. They do not have UFOs that can fly at unbelievable speeds as have been witnessed, or these things would have been put into use, even secretly, to do a job. America's failing world influence is proof there is nothing secret that is effective that they possess.

Therefore the only possible explanation of UFOs is they come from somewhere nearby, and the only real location life can exist is inside earth. The photo below is dramatised but it is a caricature of what is reality.





The North Pole Hole:

Many of you mightn't realise there actually is a hole in the North Pole that photos have captured. No they are not faked or doctored. NASA has even responded and tried to explain these photos (they released some of them themselves so this is a fact). There explanation is rather weak when you think about it:


"When trying to show how the hottest area of Enceladus could end up at what is normally the coldest area of the planet, the pole, NASA explains that the least dense portions of a spinning body will eventually line up with the axis of rotation. NASA uses the example of how a spinning bowling ball (if not counterbalanced) will eventually shift until its least dense portion, its holes, line up with the axis of rotation.
In the same way, it necessarily follows that a planet's polar openings will line up with the axis of rotation. There has been much speculation among hollow earth enthusiasts as to the location of the polar openings."




Nazi papers on the North Pole Hole:





You should also note that it isillegalto fly directly over the North Pole.


Here is an image from Google Earth of the North Pole. Please note the Great Fissure. Where is the North Pole Hole? This image is doctored to display 'land mass', hence why you don't see ice as the North Pole is just ice, not land.




Hollow Earth in History:

The Babylonian hero Gilgamesh visited his ancestor Utnapishtim in the bowels of the earth; in Greek mythology, Orpheus tries to rescue Eurydice from the underground hell; it was said that the Pharaohs of Egypt communicated with the underworld, which could be accessed via secret tunnels hidden in the pyramids; and Buddhists believed (and still believe) that millions of people live in Agharta, an underground paradise ruled by the king of the world.

Other evidence:

Recently you may have heard that we discovered an underground ocean that is three times the size of all surface oceans combined. Yes, that is correct.

http://www.iflscience.com/environmen...s-earths-core/

"Earths mantle is so vast, that if 1% of the material in the transition zone is actually water, it would represent a reservoir three times larger than all of Earths oceans combined."

This water, which is bound up in rock, could indicate the largest water reservoir on the planet. It is believed that plate tectonics cycle the water in and out, and the water affects the partial melting of rock in the mantle.This is where lava comes from. We're not just sitting on a bed of rocks and lava like Surface Earth theorists want you to believe. WAKE UP.

"Geological processes on the Earth's surface, such as earthquakes or erupting volcanoes, are an expression of what is going on inside the Earth, out of our sight," said Jacobsen in a press release. "I think we are finally seeing evidence for a whole-Earth water cycle, which may help explain the vast amount of liquid water on the surface of our habitable planet. Scientists have been looking for this missing deep water for decades.

Okay, I'm starting to believe. So what's inside the Hollow Earth and how did it come to be?

Due to the discovery of inner core oceans, the inside is much like the outside. On the top we have the sun, then land, then oceans, then a rock bed. Below this rock bed we have oceans as proven, then land (or another rock bed as proven), then an atmosphere of space before you get the inner core which is much like the sun. Intelligent life first appeared on land 530 mill years ago that we know of, most likely much earlier but very difficult to find evidence for. Now these animals were rather large, much like a dinosaur, and more intelligent than most animals alive today. Apparently it barely took 50 mill years for rats to turn into primates. So of course other intelligent life like primates most likely existed previously as well. If humans face a great extinction event, where will we go?Underground.These beings learnt long ago that it is optimal to live underground inside the hollow earth rather than be victim to the erratic chaos of the above. Simple logic and it is where we will most likely end up as well.

Conclusion:

I want you to remember that everything I have stated is FACT. Now surface Earth is currently accepted as fact, however surface earth cannot explain things like magnetic forces, etc. and simply says that what is happening underneath is unknown. If you cannot explain everything, we call that a theory. Therefore surface earth is actually a theory. Hollow Earth however can explain everything. Therefore it is fact.

This is all disproved in a quite a few videos. You are regurgitating fallacies. Research.

OP is listening to Cat brah now

well there must be a pretty concise explanation for it so why don't you just tell me? That is what I wanted when I started researching all this stuff but the videos I watched were long winded and not to the point so I gave up. I admit I find some of the stuff compelling, like that photo of Chicago from across the bay explained away as a mirage. I don't believe for a second a mirage could ever appear that perfect, that is why I started researching the flat earth theory in the first place.

Let me find some good explanations on videos and I will link them.

I don't get it - what possible advantage could there be to 'fool' everyone into believing the Earth is round?

This is legit one of the dumbest conspiracy theories.. and why anyone would think the Earth is flat is beyond me

OP is sitting there with his fedora and mountain dew with 25 tabs open to different youtube videos poorly slapped together by college students

Care to explain why when a sailing ship comes over the horizon you will see its mast first and then the ship part? This is consistent with a spherical earth; a flat earth would result in observing the whole ship at once.

edit: ^^^^ wizard above me

Had to hop in this one because in high school physics I learned why a lot of what you posted here:

http://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showth...post1477334701

is straight horse ****:

The reason why we have a magnetic north pole and a true north pole is because the core is constantly shifting. Its lava as you stated, after all. As the lava moves around, so does the poles, both south and north mind you, so magnetic north and south changes, though not by very much day by day. Now here is the really trippy part: given enough time, the poles actually dissapear, and reverse due to how the magma aligns in the core. Whats really wild are the implications of this. Our compass's wouldn't work, and we'd be exposed to quite a bit more radiation than we're used to. There would be no aurora borealis and the earth wouldn't be as protected from the Sun as it is now while we have two distinct poles. For more on this you can read here:

2012: Magnetic Pole Reversal Happens All The (Geologic) Time:https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fe...eReversal.html

FYI, its not illegal to fly over the north pole (whos going to arrested you? the UN?), however, older navigation systems would tweak out if you did so, so no commercial air lines would fly over it. For more on that you can read here:

http://aviation.stackexchange.com/qu...-over-the-pole

Conspiracy theories are fun, but typically there is a simpler explanation to it all brother.

No, that's what they TELL you. You're just repeating what they have put out. You have absolutely no idea so don't pretend like you 'know'. And yes it is illegal to fly over the North Pole. The country of your airline/small aircraft would arrest you following a very old protocol of the UN. International ruling would prohibit that airline from operating internationally ever again. It is more likely the pilot would simply disappear however. The last pilot who flew over it was in 1912 or something and it has been illegal since. And he disappeared.

Point me to the UN resolutions where its illegal. Source for your 1912 Pilot? I need a name. You're gonna have to start providing sources here son, otherwise you're just going to look like a fool.

Uh...if the earth is flat how come we can't go to the edge of it?

I'll find it soon, I'm reading a book atm. It's definitely real life tho whilst i'm gone if u wanna google for it and find it that'd be great.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-h...the-north-pole

Looking like it was this guy:

The discovery in 1996 of the diary that Byrd had kept on his famous flight seemed to suggest that he and Bennett may have turned back 150 miles short of the pole because of an oil leak. If so, Italian adventurer Umberto Nobile, American Lincoln Ellsworth, and Norwegian explorer Roald Amundsen (who was in 1911 the first person to reach the South Pole by land) would receive the credit for their airship flight over the North Pole on May 12, 1926, three days after Fletcher and Byrd’s flight.

I still don't buy that its against the law to do so today, however.

I hate the internet sometimes

Stupid azz people with stupid azz theories spreading their misinformation

You want an intellectual discussion, where's your studies and sources