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Thread: Median income for millennials (sad)

post 1493062751 04-30-2017, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted By bryan324⏩
Why vastly exaggerated? Yes I do believe so, my friends and myself are evidence of it. I have been asked to speak at my old high school on multiple occasions to let kids know there are alternative paths to white collar jobs. Brainwashed morons like you are my target audience, success is largely up to individuals. I have literally had Harvard educated interns at my architectural firm that are clueless, meanwhile we have had community college kids that are fukin rockstars.
Face it, you couldn't cut it in college so you resort to trolling these types of threads to peddle your inferiority complex-driven bullchit to whoever will listen.



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Originally Posted By PastorGaines⏩
So you think your (vastly exaggerated) anecdotal evidence disproves exobytes of data firmly pointing to the opposite? I know dozens of dropouts working at gas stations with wild dreams of becoming millionaires someday. Coincidentally, they too apparently have tons of billionaire dropout friends! Maybe I can set up a networking event for you guys?
I think the point is made against people who try to act like college is the best and only answer.

Many people in my family for example fit that stereotype, dropped out hs, aint doing chit. But then there are others who also fill the other criteria. College education, struggling, working multiple jobs, aint doing chit. Some had a salary increase from a better degree but that's as far as it went. Most successful person in my family dropped out of college, became a manager at AT&T and a countywide chairman and politician.
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post 1493063281 04-30-2017, 04:47 PM
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lol not sure how anyone could survive on that unless you lived at home and had financial support. that's pitiful.
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Originally Posted By bryan324⏩
Why vastly exaggerated? Yes I do believe so, my friends and myself are evidence of it. I have been asked to speak at my old high school on multiple occasions to let kids know there are alternative paths to white collar jobs. Brainwashed morons like you are my target audience, success is largely up to individuals. I have literally had Harvard educated interns at my architectural firm that are clueless, meanwhile we have had community college kids that are fukin rockstars.
Maybe those who go on these kinds of forums are more likely to be educated for some reason?? And that's why it seems that many here are doing quite well?

I know alot of people who are not doing so hot..most of my friends are probably somewhere in the middle income wise (40-70). But I'm also aware of many acquaintances who are doing as well as I am. Out of my friends I'm certainly top 5% income wise.
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Originally Posted By 300BLK⏩
I think the point is made against people who try to act like college is the best and only answer.

Many people in my family for example fit that stereotype, dropped out hs, aint doing chit. But then there are others who also fill the other criteria. College education, struggling, working multiple jobs, aint doing chit. Some had a salary increase from a better degree but that's as far as it went. Most successful person in my family dropped out of college, became a manager at AT&T and a countywide chairman and politician.
I never claimed you can't be successful without a college degree. I merely pointed out that data has shown that higher education generally results in higher average wages. I think it's dangerous to tell an entire generation of impressionable kids to completely forego common sense and disregard empirical evidence and instead sell gadgets on eBay because muh business/personal brand/buzzwords. Do I think students should broaden their horizons and look at alternatives to college? Of course. There's plenty of money to be made in trades and various other avenues. It's just disingenuous to try to convince them that degrees are useless.
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post 1493063591 04-30-2017, 04:50 PM
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Survived on 20k a year in Texas for 4 years. Now making 3 times that. Single and no kids, 20k is enough to live off of. Still live off 20k a year, just have a bigger savings account now.
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Originally Posted By Brocq17⏩
Graduated in 2016, making 70k and hoping to do something with the left over cash to generate passive income.

STEM life, dasitmane
Jealous you guys are starting so high..I came out when the economy took a chit and had to start at much less than that. Probably missed out on a decent $50k in savings due to bad timing.

Then again salary increased by 250% since starting salary in just 6 years.
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Most millennials are lazy af and expect a 6 figure income after college.

I'm trying to hire a graphic designer for my business and decided to ask friends for references.

They message me and when I ask to see their portfolio/resume, they say okay send it soon. (Brb takes 1-2 days to send)

I have friends who complain about money but when I offer 16/hr part-time gigs to help me do basic office work or ship packages, they're "too busy today"
post 1493064151 04-30-2017, 04:56 PM
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When you think about it. It doesnt surprise me all that much. Millennials are some of the most lazy unmotivated ungrateful entitled moochers who have zero work ethic. They want hand outs from everyone. They want to do as little as possible but make great money. They go to college, get some stupid ass degree that will help them zero in the real world then spend years working at Starbucks afterwards.
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How on earth am I making more than double than my state's average? I'm legitimately at the bottom of the dev food chain with chitty dev skills. I'm really enjoying that CS piece of paper
post 1493064951 04-30-2017, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted By PastorGaines⏩
Face it, you couldn't cut it in college so you resort to trolling these types of threads to peddle your inferiority complex-driven bullchit to whoever will listen.



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Originally Posted By Vawx⏩
Because statistics

I'm not a big fan of colleges, but you believing something based on personal experience doesn't make it true
That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard. "Hey, I know you are an example, and provided other examples of why this isn't true, but its true"
Originally Posted By ecs33⏩
Maybe those who go on these kinds of forums are more likely to be educated for some reason?? And that's why it seems that many here are doing quite well?

I know alot of people who are not doing so hot..most of my friends are probably somewhere in the middle income wise (40-70). But I'm also aware of many acquaintances who are doing as well as I am. Out of my friends I'm certainly top 5% income wise.
That may be, my argument is that college isn't necessary to be successful, and it's sad that they doop kids into a lifetime in debt by promising them the world after they obtain this meaningless piece of paper.
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post 1493065641 04-30-2017, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Dan916⏩
PoliSci and Liberal Arts minor

$75/hour though lul
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post 1493065681 04-30-2017, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted By bryan324⏩
YFW you realize I deposit single checks worth more than you make in a year.


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You shouldnt have posted this.
post 1493065861 04-30-2017, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Cricket87⏩
Survived on 20k a year in Texas for 4 years. Now making 3 times that. Single and no kids, 20k is enough to live off of. Still live off 20k a year, just have a bigger savings account now.
My first two years out of college I made less than $10,000 a year, living on my own in Kansas (land of poverty/no jobs)
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post 1493066141 04-30-2017, 05:15 PM
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That may be, my argument is that college isn't necessary to be successful, and it's sad that they doop kids into a lifetime in debt by promising them the world after they obtain this meaningless piece of paper.
Ya, guy I started my career with had no degree but just Godly knowledge about networking. He's def making close to 6 figs full time and just started his own hosting company.

Honestly made me regret spending close to $100k on a private university when I probably could have gained same knowledge for much less in a community college.
post 1493066181 04-30-2017, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
They live in government housing, in trailer parks, with their parents, etc. The majority of these people will completely struggle to be a mediocre employee at even unskilled labor. The vast majority of these people won't even show up to work to make 40hr a week even with a job that's easy as hell. Hotel front desk clerk. Fast food worker. Gas station attendant, cashier at a store, etc.

Anyone who has managed those types of jobs will tell you how hard it is getting decent employees that will even show up at work regularly. A large portion of these fukk ups will call in sick or just not show up on weekends as well (hung-over from night before). Ask anyone that manages those types of job's what uneducated/unskilled employees are like and they'll have nothing but negative's for 90% of their employee base.


A large portion of millennial are just selfish lazy azzholes that expect to be handed everything. How many able bodied male's have 0 sense of pride/self worth and aren't making any effort to improve their socioeconomic status? You also have to account for rural area's where there is simple not much work and the jobs in the area pay very little.



My mom makes around 20k per year and she manages to live on her own, pay her car note, and cover her bills. She's lucky that she has a paid off house to live in however. She's never collected unemployment, food stamps or utilized any kind of government assistance. Granted, $10 an hour at 40hr a week is about the best she can do. Reliable employee but no real skill-set or education for an advanced career. Stay at home wife/mother for 30+ years kinda fukks someone over when they decide to hit the work-force.
Fun fact boyo:
Every generation says the previous generation is entitled, spoiled, bratty, can't show up to work. There's been studies done that confirm what you are saying is bull****.

There are multiple competing factors as to why certain people show up to work and why certain people don't. Being a millennial (which, by the way, isn't even objectively defined due to increases in technological advancement) isn't one of them.

It's cool that your mom made such low money and continued to support you. However, times change and cost of living increases. What your mom made, relative to the cost of living at the time, is not the same as what these kids are making relative to the cost of living at this time.

Something tells me you are a staunch conservative, maybe from the south, who's against financial aid and welfare because "i aint paying my tax dollars to help them degenerates"
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Originally Posted By GnarlySheen⏩
You shouldnt have posted this.
probably not, got too worked up by some internet ******* deleted it and hopefully it doesnt come back to fuk me.
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Originally Posted By Twerk4it⏩
Bruh......

you should be happy you found a $75 hr job instead of being homeless like most people who get your degree.
fellow polisci brah checking in

im far from homeless lmaooo
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Originally Posted By WSG1⏩
When you think about it. It doesnt surprise me all that much. Millennials are some of the most lazy unmotivated ungrateful entitled moochers who have zero work ethic. They want hand outs from everyone. They want to do as little as possible but make great money. They go to college, get some stupid ass degree that will help them zero in the real world then spend years working at Starbucks afterwards.
But its true millennials have to work harder and longer just to make less in comparison to past generations.
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[QUOTE=bryan324 post_id=1493064951]YFW you realize I deposit single checks worth more than you make in a year.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/z3EKd0O.jpg[img]

[img]https://media.tenor.co/images/f0b3adef08e3443778993d4ba2606290/tenor.gif[img][/QUOTE]Not only did I hurt your feelings so badly that you had to dig up an old check, take a photo of it, upload it to your computer, block confidential info out, upload it to Imgur, and embed it here, but you genuinely think that a lump sum for three jobs without any mention of expenses or costs is supposed to be impressives.

That's tradies for you I guess.

[QUOTE]That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard. "Hey, I know you are an example, and provided other examples of why this isn't true, but its true"[/QUOTE]It's called[b]empirical evidence[/b]you stupid dropout and it holds infinitely more weight than some dumbass anecdotes. You'd know this if you'd taken even a basic statistics course.

[QUOTE]That may be, my argument is that college isn't necessary to be successful, and it's sad that they doop kids into a lifetime in debt by promising them the world after they obtain this meaningless piece of paper.[/QUOTE]Spoken like a true dropout. It isn't about he piece of paper, it's about the skillset (both hard and soft) that the student acquires over the course of his degree.
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Originally Posted By Dan916⏩
For everybody I know, including me, it comes down to lack of hours. Most people make decent money while on the clock but the hours just aint there. I don't know if Obamacare is to blame or just the fukt up economy we live in now.
who the **** wants to spend their whole life working to die and never exist again? not me. going to spend my only life doing what i want. no hate or anything towards you, that's just how i view working. but i can only get **** jobs, you might enjoy urs lol.
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Originally Posted By Twerk4it⏩
But its true millennials have to work harder and longer just to make less in comparison to past generations.
He is 100% wrong. Every generation wants to chit on the next generation because they want to feel good about themselves.
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Originally Posted By cjr169⏩
fellow polisci brah checking in

im far from homeless lmaooo
Not saying ANY polisci major will be poor, it's just probably far more competitive to get a relevant job.
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define what is a "millennial" please
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Originally Posted By ecs33⏩
Ya, guy I started my career with had no degree but just Godly knowledge about networking. He's def making close to 6 figs full time and just started his own hosting company.

Honestly made me regret spending close to $100k on a private university when I probably could have gained same knowledge for much less in a community college.
Sorry about the way it shook out bro, we all make choices we regret, I was a 50% partner in my aforementioned best friends Augmented Reality/VR company. We started it together in my spare bedroom in 2013, he hated his day job and architecture is my passion so he quit his job and moved to doing this AR and rendering shyt full time and wanted me to jump too but I didn't. Obviously we had issues because I was still getting half of all the money so we reduced my stake to 25%, that worked for a while but was still too much money going out for my production so I had him buy me out because it was driving a wedge in our lifelong friendship. Now he is about to be acquired with a 50% partner to provide growth captial, his current valuation is 5 mil, after being acquired they estimate the company's 3-5 year growth to 30-50 mil. It's a misstep that I beat myself up over every day because I literally threw away the winning lottery ticket.

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Originally Posted By ecs33⏩
Problem is most people don't go into fields that make good money. If you're not in tech, engineering, finance, accounting, or aren't some kind of awesome entrepreneur, the odds are firmly against you.

I know so many people who slave to get their masters+ and only come out with sub $50k salaries.
You could also do law or medicine. I honestly think that if you go to a prestigious school, do well and major in something relevant to a long term plan, you'll be safely making 6 figures from your mid-20's on. Once you get your first prestigious job, you'll never have trouble making money again. The problem is if you fuk up, and most people do, you'll have almost no options.

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Originally Posted By PastorGaines⏩
Not only did I hurt your feelings so badly that you had to dig up an old check, take a photo of it, upload it to your computer, block confidential info out, upload it to Imgur, and embed it here, but you genuinely think that a lump sum for three jobs without any mention of expenses or costs is supposed to be impressives.

That's tradies for you I guess.



It's calledempirical evidenceyou stupid dropout and it holds infinitely more weight than some dumbass anecdotes. You'd know this if you'd taken even a basic statistics course.



Spoken like a true dropout. It isn't about he piece of paper, it's about the skillset (both hard and soft) that the student acquires over the course of his degree.
Bro I work out of my home office, I have no employees. That is all my money (minus what uncle sam gets) Look I shouldn't have uploaded it, it was a douche move but you're wrong on saying college is necessary. It isn't, hardwork, networking, and individual skills get you just as far, if not further.

How is that piece of paper working out for many kids that graduate and end up taking jobs as servers, or bar tenders? I bet their bosses really give a chit that they went to school. Also I had the opportunity to go to college, I chose to go to trade school because for 2.5 years I learned about what it's like to work in an architectural design studio, I learned how to cut sections, draw plans, elevations, etc. With real world guidelines, not some theoretcial world that college puts students into. I am 100% content with my chioce
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Originally Posted By bryan324⏩
That's the most moronic thing I've ever heard. "Hey, I know you are an example, and provided other examples of why this isn't true, but its true"
Originally Posted By PastorGaines⏩
It's calledempirical evidenceyou stupid dropout and it holds infinitely more weight than some dumbass anecdotes. You'd know this if you'd taken even a basic statistics course.
This

So the most moronic thing you've ever heard is that I would place empirical evidence over the word of some guy on the internet? Thousands and thousands of data points are irrelevant because some Miscer claims to be an outlier? Wait I'm sorry you probably don't know what an outlier is because you don't even understand high school level statistics.

One thing is for sure, you definitely didn't graduate college
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Originally Posted By MisterJustice⏩
this thread once again proved that most miscers are bunch of pussies...try surviving in eastern europe, where average median yearly salary is ~9-11k
Hmm but that's an entirely different country. Different cost of living, different tax structures, different social programs. Not sure what your circumstances are.
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Originally Posted By bryan324⏩
Sorry about the way it shook out bro, we all make choices we regret, I was a 50% partner in my aforementioned best friends Augmented Reality/VR company. We started it together in my spare bedroom in 2013, he hated his day job and architecture is my passion so he quit his job and moved to doing this AR and rendering shyt full time and wanted me to jump too but I didn't. Obviously we had issues because I was still getting half of all the money so we reduced my stake to 25%, that worked for a while but was still too much money going out for my production so I had him buy me out because it was driving a wedge in our lifelong friendship. Now he is about to be acquired with a 50% partner to provide growth captial, his current valuation is 5 mil, after being acquired they estimate the company's 3-5 year growth to 30-50 mil. It's a misstep that I beat myself up over every day because I literally threw away the winning lottery ticket.

Cliffs:
- We all make choices we regret
That's rough, but yea we don't have crystal balls. I don't regret it that much as I paid off loans long ago, and I guess a few employers have been impressed with the university I graduated from. Though work experience has always been most important factor past job #1.
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