how so? you come into thread , put down op's situation , make sarcastic comments on his parent's perception of him , take offense to my telling you that you missed the point of the thread, like is usually the case with a woman in my travels , turn your sarcasm my way , and i'm bitter?

k then, i'm doing fine girl , maybe it's time for you to get off misc and tend to your husband and kids?


you have a great day

What on earth are you talking about, living off of my parents?

Did I EVER EVER say I was taking anything from my parents. I make my own money, have a career, and take care of everything for myself. The only thing is I am living in one of the two bedrooms that no one ever sleeps in besides myself and my brother when we come to visit. My parents wont be cleaning up after me, buying me groceries, paying for gas, paying for my insurance, giving me spending money, nothing. My mother owns her house and has for years so shes not paying any sort of rent just her HoA fees and taxes. The house is paid off there is no mortgage.

I really do not understand in the slightest where you see that I am a burden on her life, she has been nothing but elated to have company and she is extremely proud that I have a career in a field actually many people respect, I have an education, a long term life plan, and am very succesfull at a hobby outside of work.

Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh oh
Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh oh
Check it out
Going out
On the late night
Looking tight
Feeling nice
It's a **** fight
I can tell
I just know
That it's going down
Tonight
At the door we don't wait cause we know them
At the bar six shots just beginning
That's when dick head put his hands on me
But you see

I'm not here for your entertainment
You don't really want to mess with me tonight
Just stop and take a second
I was fine before you walked into my life
Cause you know it's over
Before it began
Keep your drink just give me the money
It's just you and your hand tonight

Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh oh
Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh oh

Midnight
I'm drunk
I don't give a ***k
Wanna dance
By myself
Guess you're outta luck
Don't touch
Back up
I'm not the one
Buh bye
Listen up it's just not happening
You can say what you want to your boyfriends
Just let me have my fun tonight
Aiight

I'm not here for your entertainment
You don't really want to mess with me tonight
Just stop and take a second
I was fine before you walked into my life
Cause you know it's over
Before it began
Keep your drink just give me the money
It's just you and your hand tonight

Uh uh uh uh uh uh uh oh
Break break
Break it down

In the corner with your boys you bet 'em five bucks
You'd get the girl that just walked in but she thinks you suck
We didn't get all dressed up just for you to see
So quit spilling your drinks on me yeah

You know who you are
High fivin, talking ****, but you're going home alone arentcha?

Cause I'm not here for your entertainment
No
You don't really want to mess with me tonight
Just stop and take a second
Just stop and take a second
I was fine before you walked into my life
Cause you know it's over
Know it's over
Before it began
Keep your drink just give me the money
It's just you and your hand tonight
It's just you and your hand

I'm not here for your entertainment
No no no
You don't really want to mess with me tonight
Just stop and take a second
Just take a second
I was fine before you walked into my life
Cause you know it's over
Before it began
Keep your drink just give me the money
It's just you and your hand tonight
Yeah oh

in b4 your epic relapse thread

Okay, looking at your schedule, that's more understandable, haha. Honestly though, it depends on the other person. Currently, my bf and I are so busy that we only see each other when we go to sleep or meals, and we live together.Partly true. I guess it's too much work trying to specifically find one. A few of my friends are trying to date right now, and it does seem like a lot of work that may not necessarily be rewarding.I think he's just living with his parent, not depending on them. And if that's the case, honestly it's a good idea. I don't see the harm in doing that while you just save up money for bigger future expenses. Plus, he said his mother is lonely, so it's nice to be more filial and keep them company anyway.

Mirin OP, seriously considering leaving the gf and doing my own thing for a while as well.

Good job op.

This is a feminists bitches nightmare, as evidenced by rabidretards response.

A man that is happy, strong, educated and no longer falls for the bullshet of putting bitches on a pedestal.

On a serious note, this whole thing is not about women at all honestly. It's about your bodybuilding lifestyle turning you into a boring person of routine and you love it. Wait till you wake up OP it's all going to be a bad dream.

I don't know about you bro's but I get tail and still do what ever the hell I want. If she isn't down then I invite one that is.

You mean your COPE decision

I have had so much pussy I don't crave any new pussy. Can confirm living with mom is goat.

But I have a hot gf, and she does not bother or demand anything from me but love and care. So I am lucky

Care for your parents "trap" lmfao. Careing about family in nearly 2k18?

Women are exceptionally selfish and self centered. It should come as no surprise to you that she feels this way about the people who brought her into the world. Rabbitjb is no different.

You see, they tend to expose themselves eventually. They may be good at lying and deceit, but they're terrible at hiding their true feelings when they're under the veil of anonymity or some other form of protection. But, they DO still try, because they are evolutionarily hard wired to lie and manipulate since they are so weak. Just simple facts.

1) no its not, its about my whole lifestyle. I dont want to waste money renting expensive apartments, I dont want to have obligations to give someone else attention, take them on dates, buy them presents, listen to their day, listen to them vent.
2) I am not going to wake up and its "all going to be a bad dream". I have won 3 NPC bodybuilding shows and am spending a year with 2 coaches training for a pro card show, I have a long term plan which is to get my pro card, start training clients, and switch into powerlifting where I can eat what I want and lay back on the training and extreme lifestyle. It is a long term plan to make capitol doing what I love.
3) It is definitely about women. Women want to talk, they want to cuddle, they want to sleep at the same time as you, they want dates, you still HAVE to go see their family sometimes, you have to buy them christmas, valentines, birthday presents, you cant just slob around when you want all the time, you cant spend all your free time with friends and video games only, they strongly dislike you living with your parents, etc etc etc.... even the good non needy ones still have needs and I have no desire to fill those needs for another person.


It is 100% not a bad dream or coping, it is a life decision I am extremely pleased about and have not been stressed at all for weeks for the first time in my life.

You're making a good decision ultimately because it's not like anything you're saying is incorrect.

It's worse when you consider than 99% of them have no hobbies or take anything seriously other than social media, eating with friends and generally being a complete and utter leech and lazy ass layabout with delusions of being "socialites".

Agreed OP, recently on a similar journey myself. However, eventually I will want another GF, just have to find the right one. But I am definitely in no rush and enjoying my new single status for a lot of the reasons you've stated.

It should always be someone who shares your values and passions. Not some girl who looks good, wears makeup and "Likes" you like the vast majority of them.

Op is just an example of someone who has hobbies/direction in life.

Most people who monkey branch from relationship to relationship don't actually have anything in life they enjoy. They need another person to distract them from their own boredom. It's actually sad.

This deserves repeating.

yeah and I feel theres nothing wrong with that. For me, I just have done it already for 10 years non stop, and have had plenty of people in my life who are older, more wise, and been in the same business who have stopped dating/relationships and said its also been the best thing they have done.

There is even a lot of research looking at dopamine levels and cortisol levels of people who are in LTR/married and single and you notice tremendously different levels, the single guys being much better. Cortisol and relationships go hand in hand, you have time constraints based on your partner which can raise cortisol, fights raise cortisol, trying to make them happy raises cortisol, working through issues raises it, worrying about them talking to someone or w/e raises it, nagging raises, fighting off others guys coming at your girl raises it, even for a very mellow chill guy, girls will very often elevate cortisol levels which has a tremendous effect on your quality of life.

And like I said, when I play the MMORPG's I like and go on the 50+ person raids a few nights a week, I have more of a rush and more fun doing that then any dates or ONS's I have gone on.

Indeed I am tired of society saying its a waste of time to play video games, you need a partner in life to confide in, it is childish to live with your parents as an adult, etc....
There is no support for any of this it is just peoples beliefs. Yeah sure if I did NOTHING but play games I would be a bum, but I have a hobby I am great at and work full time. If i bummed off my parents and did nothing, yeah that would make sense. If I was scared to date and said I dont want to just to escape reality, yeah I could be missing out. But none of that is the case.

A decent woman will allow you to do all those things without nagging you. Just a heads up.

I posted my schedule, trust me its pretty ridiculous. And I seriously dont think a decent woman should put up with me playing video games for 5 or 6 hours on my days off and thats what I want to do.

On top of that even if a decent woman does, I don't really want or need anything from a decent woman right now. I dont want kids, I don't need support emotionally or otherwise. I have almost no sex drive and its not effecting me negatively at all, I get as much female attention and socialization as I want any time.

I appreciate it just saying its not a requirement for every person on earth to want to be with another person, I have come to realize I am just one of the people who does not need another person, and with how busy I am and selfish I am with my time, I have no want for one either.

Yeah but you still feel an obligation to compromise exactly what you want. For example, you want to stay in all weekend and get up at 4am to go exercise. She does not.

Now what. It's annoying.

I give it one month, two months max, and you'll be back licking a girl's nasty pussy begging for love.

Yeah I agree with OP. Two best times of my life. Summer of when I was 18 and last year. Both had something in common. 18 I was waiting to get shipped out to basic for the USAF and literally drank every night playing COD zombies with my bros. Last year I was at a military school for the whole year. Made a ton of money and the government put me in a new apartment by myself. I didn't lift back then and I lift now. But I had ZERO bullchit and drama in my life. No stress either.

2017 is probably one of my worst years of my life. Things have come up, but tried to get into a serious relationship with someone I legit thought was a really good match. I've never been through so much bullchit, drama and stress in my life. Lost 15 pounds because of it and it's all for nothing. I was a lot happier being "FA" as most people call it on here than going out. I hate dealing with drama and bullchit and unfortunately that is what comes with dating.

Yes, and the way I make it sound I understand is like I date crazy chicks. But honestly all of the girls I have been dating for the past 5 years have been top notch. All had careers, made more money than I did, paid for a lot of stuff, never expected me to do much, they werent super crazy or overly emotional, not on drugs, not drinkers or partiers, none showed an inkling of cheating, etc.... but there was still stress, fights, compromise, them needing attention, support, etc...

Yup same with my most recent. Ended because of something stupid. She would never pick up the phone when I'd call which is rare to begin with and she would always say she is with her father which is code for I'm drinking and bullchitting with him. And then when she is upset with me, she ignores me. Simple things like when I text you or I call you I expect you to respond. Bare bone basics in a relationship and it couldn't happen so fuk it single now lol.

I got so apathetic that i didnt even care about stuff like that. I was just like I am so just not even into being in a relationship that I dont even care if what she is out doing right now is something bad. Mind you she was amazing and it had nothing to do with her looks, her personality, or anything like that, I was just already checked out of wanting to be with anyone but myself. Thats why we broke up, she said she felt nothing from my side, on top of that she hated how much I worked, how much attention I got from girls(said it made her feel to insecure and like she needed to workout a lot too), and how good looking and muscular my guy and girl friends were.

no wonder you dont want a gf...you dont even have time to sleep...

With mine she got upset that I liked a girl's profile picture on FB and it was just a photo of her face smiling. Admitted it was stupid for her to get upset, but then she tells me she wants to become an Instagram model so she can make "easy" money. Told her how I felt and she said I was insecure I was like lol u wot m8?

every time I feel kinda down - I always think thank god I do not have a wife I can't stand and annoying azz kids running around - this happens to so many men that marry the wrong women

I also feel that most females are very manipulative - always playing games which is exhausting & very dangerous financially