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Thread: how the fuk did Nirvana make it?

post 1521457231 10-04-2017, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted By SwimToTheMoon⏩
Was just watching this HD recording of a concert of theirs



wtf is this chit? dude can't sing for chit, fuks up the simplest guitar riffs, and sounds like a whiny ******* when he speaks..

How was Nirvana the biggest band of the 90's when there were bands like Soundgarden, Mr. Bungle, Pearl Jam etc??
Because they managed to record many melodic songs with basic musical knowledge, that and their timing was perfect for the depressive state the world was in after all the metal/glam.
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Originally Posted By SwimToTheMoon⏩
bro Kurt literally copied the main vocal melody of Smells like teen spirit and made it into the solo... Can you believe that lazy ass kunt?
are you insinuating it doesn't sound good? because from what i hear its slow, calmer, almost chilling slides and slight bends (along with the calmer verses) complement the heavy distortion and tempo of intro/chorus perfectly. sure he might not be shredding but i refuse that the "lazy" solo negates anything from the song, i personally look forward to the solo in it


also, suppose his voice is a matter of opinion, i by no means think hes one of the greatest singers to touch the mic but the way he sings the songs he writes combine well to me (and even some he covers)





for the record i dont claim to be a big nirvana fan but i can see, as well as the reason of time and place stated many times before, why they made it
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Nirvana were good. Those other bands suck.
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Used to think the same thing OP until I heard this song:



Nirvana definitely displays depression very well. Kurt definitely isn't the best singer, but a lot of people appreciate 'rawness' in their artists that both sets them apart from heavily edited crap + has a certain grit about it.
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Because the alternative at the time was this ****





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They made it like every other band "makes it". Right place, right time, right marketing team/strategy. But 1990, it was either MTV pop music, rap, or hair metal. There was an "alternative" music scene that had been brewing underground for years. Most people wrongly called it "college rock". There were a few big bands that were considered outside the mainstream at the time (The Cure, Janes Addiction and countless more, even U2 and REM were considered "alternative" at one time). The time was ripe for something to happen in music and Nirvana was it to make it big. It systematically destroyed hair metal and created many copycat posers. I remember girls in school one day had their hair aqua netted up to the ceiling wearing denim and leather and caked on makeup to the very next day wearing their hair down, no makeup, and having a flannel shirt on. The change was literally overnight and was a magical era to live through............the feelz
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Originally Posted By SwimToTheMoon⏩
bro Kurt literally copied the main vocal melody of Smells like teen spirit and made it into the solo... Can you believe that lazy ass kunt?
That's not a lazy solo- it's a simple solo that fits the song perfectly.

Lazy solos are some dude just blasting through a few scale runs for the f*ck of it that when played on their own cant even be matched to the song they came from because they're not memorable
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Originally Posted By Seatard⏩
I'm guessing because anything was better than all the hair bands that were so popular until the instant nirvana came along.
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You had to be there *******
+all other posters who said the same.



Nirvana was just so different than anything else on the radio at the time. GNR was (at least originally) different as well, as far as being unpolished and not artificially manufactured like the Warrants and Wingers of the world but they were still more traditional hard rock. Nirvana's sound was different.
post 1521463401 10-04-2017, 08:43 AM
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Because OP, everyone was coming down off of the ******* high that was the 80s.
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Originally Posted By goingcia⏩
....We had no idea wtf and we weren't ready for it at all. There was no hype, no prep but when that chit played, it quite plainly sounded like a song I always wanted to hear. ..
That describes it for me as well. Very few songs in my life I completely fell in love with the first time hearing but SLTS was so different and you could feel the angst and rage coming from Kurt. Was never about his voice or his talent for me, it was always about how much emotion he could put into his songs and thus evoke from the listener.
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Originally Posted By Wysiwig⏩
+all other posters who said the same.



Nirvana was just so different than anything else on the radio at the time. GNR was (at least originally) different as well, as far as being unpolished and not artificially manufactured like the Warrants and Wingers of the world but they were still more traditional hard rock. Nirvana's sound was different.
I just don't get this logic at all.. I hear the same about The Beatles for example, they were there at the right time and place, and I really don't like them but any person can objectively say they were amazing song writers, I can see how people listen to them to this day.. Same for GnR, really dislike them but they were great song writers.. I just don't get nirvana, they sound like they never got passed the teenagers playing in their parent's garage stage..
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Originally Posted By SwimToTheMoon⏩
I just don't get this logic at all.. I hear the same about The Beatles for example, they were there at the right time and place, and I really don't like them but any person can objectively say they were amazing song writers, I can see how people listen to them to this day.. Same for GnR, really dislike them but they were great song writers.. I just don't get nirvana, they sound like they never got passed the teenagers playing in their parent's garage stage..
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Nirvana was a sales job. They were the flip side of the "manufactured" pop. They sold people on the idea that bad music was somehow more palatable if it came from dirty, sad, hippies.
Kurt Cobain was no more talented than someone like Demi Lovato. Heck, at least she can carry a tune. Kobain was a terrible singer, bad guitar player and he wrote overly simplistic pop songs with non-sense lyrics.

It's okay if you like the band, but the pretension of a majority of its fans is highly hypocritical. To say that Nirvana is any empirically better than Poison, or Dokken, or RATT, or Britney Spears is a laughable. claim under unbiased scrutiny.
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Originally Posted By nothingshocking⏩
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wtf is this chit lmao???
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[QUOTE=SwimToTheMoon post_id=1521425371]Was just watching this HD recording of a concert of theirs

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wtf is this chit? dude can't sing for chit, fuks up the simplest guitar riffs, and sounds like a whiny ******* when he speaks..

How was Nirvana the biggest band of the 90's when there were bands like Soundgarden, Mr. Bungle, Pearl Jam etc??[/QUOTE]No one sounded like nirvana and they wrote catchy songs. Sound garden and pearl jam were massive too.... Mr. Bungle appealed to the more " prog" fans hence them being less popular.


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Originally Posted By NorthernLad93⏩
Because the alternative at the time was this ****





wtf...................... i cant believe this crap. the REAL alternatives at the time were bands like metallica/megadeth not this grunge trash or "hair metal".
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Nirvāṇa (/nɪərˈvɑːnə, -ˈvænə, nər-/;[1] Sanskrit: निर्वाण nirvāṇa  [nirʋaːɳə]; Pali: निब्बान nibbāna ; Prakrit: णिव्वाण ṇivvāṇa ) literally means"blown out", as in an oil lamp.
looks like cobain took it too literally.
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Originally Posted By KILLdante⏩
Melvins

Houdini is a beast of an album
So much this. Glad I read through the second page before responding Melvins>Anything from the "Seattle scene" or that era.

Melvins started before any of this took off and are still going strong, constantly releasing material and touring. Buzzo and Dale do not get the credit they deserve.

Also check out Karp, from "the scene" in the 90's. The bass player went on to form Big Business, eventually incorporating themselves into the Melvins line up for three albums.
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Lol @ edgy kids hating on Nirvana because they got huge. The guitar parts weren't complex and he didn't sing like Chris Cornell, but that music was about as authentic as it gets. I feel the exact same way about Alice in Chains, but people hate on them less.
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Originally Posted By Payrab⏩
Lol @ edgy kids hating on Nirvana because they got huge. The guitar parts weren't complex and he didn't sing like Chris Cornell, but that music was about as authentic as it gets. I feel the exact same way about Alice in Chains, but people hate on them less.
lol get fuked, it's the in thing nowadays to call people edgy whenever they have an opinion the majority don' like...
Also Nirvana have never recorded something as powerful as this, not sure how both bands can be compared.
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Originally Posted By KurtMussell⏩
Buzzo and Dale do not get the credit they deserve.
Who should they be getting it from? I totally get what you're saying. I love Melvins and I've even seen them live. They came up with a sound that mainstream audiences couldn't get into. Nirvana's music was obviously influenced by theirs, but their music appealed to the masses. It's the same argument people make about Exhorder and Pantera.
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Originally Posted By Groce⏩
This, AIC were a million times better.
AIC > Pearl Jam > Soundgarden > Nirvanna
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Originally Posted By SwimToTheMoon⏩
lol get fuked, it's the in thing nowadays to call people edgy whenever they have an opinion the majority don' like...
Also Nirvana have never recorded something as powerful as this, not sure how both bands can be compared.
Bro, I've been listening to your favorite bands a lot longer than you, I promise. I've gone through all three pages of this thread and every post of yours is elitist and tryhard. I see where you're coming from with your opinions, but by choosing to be close-minded with music, you're robbing yourself of endless enjoyment. Seriously.
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Originally Posted By jesusxchrist⏩
How do you not mention Alice In Chains in that sentence?

edit: just watched the video, singing wasn't even bad. That's exactly how it sounds on the album
This is better than anything Nirvana ever did:


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Originally Posted By Payrab⏩
Bro, I've been listening to your favorite bands a lot longer than you, I promise. I've gone through all three pages of this thread and every post of yours is elitist and tryhard. I see where you're coming from with your opinions, but by choosing to be close-minded with music, you're robbing yourself of endless enjoyment. Seriously.
Lol I praised a bunch of other bands and posted reasons why I disliked one band, how is that elitist and try hard?
Also funny how you call me a try hard elitist when you start your sentence with " I've been listening to your favorite bands a lot longer than you, I promise" and you're only two years older than me you dumb kunt.. You're a generic music snob bro
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Originally Posted By Payrab⏩
Who should they be getting it from? I totally get what you're saying. I love Melvins and I've even seen them live. They came up with a sound that mainstream audiences couldn't get into. Nirvana's music was obviously influenced by theirs, but their music appealed to the masses. It's the same argument people make about Exhorder and Pantera.
It's not who they should be getting it from, it's who should they have gotten it from - industry jerk offs and media rags from the get go should have given them more publicity. They didn't have the look. Even if the sound was there - which most of the time it wasn't if you've ever listened to their catalog of albums - they would have championed a group more marketable, straight out of the cookie cutter. Come on, can you really market a guy clean and sober like Buzzo to the rebellious, gullible youth? They were just plain weird, still are.

Maybe the fact that they were lesser known has led to a greater impact among musicians, it's the underground/exclusivity/elitist thing. I know I was that way growing up with a few bands - hey, I'm going draw a lot from this particular record or band and use this in what I'm writing because others won't be able to pick up on it.

I remember seeing the Melvins on Headbangers Ball in the early 90's, first saw them live in the mid 90's. Probably have been to almost 20 Melvins shows since then. Seeing them live now, it's a weird mix of people. The old heshers still living the dream, average looking folks, even the young hipsters that have recently discovered the band. It's still a good time, as always.



tl;dr
they weren't given a lot of publicity because they didn't have the look
maybe it was a good thing
if anyone hasn't done so yet, go see them live
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Originally Posted By meenman83⏩
90s music was GOAT, Green Day Dookie, Nirvana, Sublime, shaped music into what it is today.
If true, that explains why music today sucks so many fukkin balls
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