He's actually got joocy quads.

Instead of criticising your current routine, can I ask seriously:

Where do you see yourself in
a) 6 months
b) 1 year
c) 2 years

Weight and body fat percent?

I seriously don't think anyone here is being mean for the sake of it - you just seem deluded
Wish you the best of luck with your current program but please take photos on a monthly basis and do regular calliper tests or something so you can properly measure what you're doing and realise that these benefits you think you're getting might just be in your head

At your weight, if you think you've got a lot of muscle, you should be benching 4 plates. Are you?

I've lost a pant size too actually since June. On me that's 5% of my body mass, on you? Hardly anything. Everything is relative. You can be at a deficit for 23/24h of the day, but if you spend 1h cramming 5000 kcal into your mouth, you'll gain MORE fat. As in: MORE than the fat that you burned off on an empty stomach in the morning.

Considering you already said you don't count calories, you have no way of saying that this is not what you're doing. Just stop being stupid, that or stop making threads so people know you're stupid. I'm fine with whichever route you go.

he's got freaky legs

dude...i just literally go walking either in town or on my garage treadmill for 45-60 minutes... its walking, its healthy. it does not allow me to accumulate fat and i have dropped a pants size while making more muscle gains than tons of guys here...after being in and out of pysche wards for 3 years...dude i am doing it right, i just want people to get me straight, i am not a troll but still **** gets funny on here /10

Dude literally said that he will look like Arnie when he cuts to 250

You see a huge mother****er in the mirror because you are a huge mother****er.

Does that mean huge in muscle or huge in fat, though?

With so much fat covering up the muscles how can you actually be so accurate in gauging your muscle mass? Your lifts should be waaaay higher than what it is right now if you really had the muscle mass/strength you say you've got from DC training.Sure, it's walking and it's healthy. It expends calories and raises your total NEAT (Non-exercise activity thermogenesis)

Your total caloric expenditure for the day increases but regardless you are eating BACK the calories you burned and thus are gaining weight. I can walk for 45-60 minutes too, burn like 300 calories in the morning fasted, then eat way too many calories above my maintenance and end up fat. It doesn't matter bro.

I have 0 degrees, I am a miscer, and whether you decide to listen to me or not is up to you. There are many studies out there if you researched it right now and it'd be basic common knowledge calories in-calories out is what matters (also slightly to do with macronutrient ratios and body composition, but thats a discussion for another time)

Everyone is giving you suggestions on how tokeepprogressing and you are essentially spitting in their face by arguing over it without even thinking. We aren’t trying to discredit what you have already done but you are being a stubborn donkey who refuses to reason. I have to leave...my mood is deteriorating.

it's my personal business, maybe i shouldn't post it on here... i am not dumb, maybe i know how to do everything the internet says isnt going to work... look at scottherman, i dwarf him, but hes married and makes dough... i live in the valley and have been kind of homeless. i dont have to front, i am a humble guy, no need for to brutality i receive on here

no man, i have no idea how much i'd weigh at my "genetic peak" but since i am about arnies height, i guessed i would be less than his weight of 250, jesus misc

Everyone has issues Andie - 7 years ago I was homeless for 8 months at age 19, don't use it to defeat yourself and stay the same. I make a point to myself I'll never get back to that state - I'm reasonably well off for my age now financially and socially but it was a massive grind. I was 85kg at 18+% bodyfat. I'm at 80kg now but 14-15%. I've made most of my progress in the last few months. I know this because I made the same training mistakes as you and wasted 2 years spinning my wheels.

Agreed, if you're not bloat maxing hard in 2018 tour is over

i know i am eating the calories back...i am trying to actually reach another standard in this sport..i get hungry...i lost a pants size...hence i dont deal with the worries of fat gain during mass gain...when i dont match this (aka look too bloated) i just grind on with the PRs at lower carbs/fats...big deal, i know what im doing, i dont want to be flamed on here before i got a chance to say it

i am just ****ing jacked as ****...you would have to stand next to me when i take off my shirt, i look like a house, i am just terribly fat, i wish it could be gone faster, but i am just taking advantage of the body fat to set my PRs and get big...it works, anyone could do it, people just dont learn that off page one of google. i have been observing this sport for 11 years.

It is your personal business, but once you chose to broadcast it, you're open for criticism. I wouldn't have said anything, remember I was actually nice to you in your thread, and I hope you're right. However, I don't want to be 70 by the time you finally prove yourself right.

Also, making a thread complaining about about people who are actually trying to cut and showing actual progress on the body, while you have made zero visible progress on your own? You're asking for this kind of reaction.

And no, you are not humble, humble people don't make "mirin my muscles" threads on the misc. Humble people don't disregard everyone's advice. Humble people for a SECOND might consider that they have something to learn.

I'm sorry about your homelessness, feel free to contact me if you need to get in touch with a shelter, I volunteer with a few around here. Also consider using your time on the misc to find a part time minimum wage job, I'm not saying you don't do that already, but you seem to have SOME free time, try your best to get out of this situation. I know financially it's not easy, but I have seen plenty of others pulling through.

Will you be my misc Valentine bb

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In on roll bread. Lol at all the misc writers and their wall of texts trying to “get through” to OP

trinn, if i know i am right and being done wrong... i will fight for my recognition or die trying, yeah obviously this goes off the misc and lifting in general

i have made progress... i am just tired of looking the mirror and seeking a gray hair because the misc doesn't like it that i am not "done with my progress" so i come on, i deal with you (and everyone else)

nah i am humble, pride comes before the fall they said

so i am not a shy guy then... it is what it is, i look at myself and i see a pretty bumpy mother****er in the mirror... if you dont like that i am not lean yet...ok.... i dont like it either... i want to focus on building muscle tissue right now, i lost a pants size, i feel i am being reasonable with myself

I wanna hear about your PRs and progress. Please elaborate. I'm actually curious

Yeah, I’m out...OP has lost it.

Your statement of taking advantage of your bodyfat to set PRs and get big is a statement that confirms everything everyone's been saying about you though. You are getting big, but you're using bodyfat to get ''big'', not muscle. You have literally put your faith for increasing strength and progression on gaining fat.

Regardless, you do whatever you want to do. It seems like you've achieved a new standard in this sport and are able to defy the natural laws of the universe and have a rare metabolism to process foods and place it into pure muscle growth despite eating at a caloric surplus at 35+% BF

You are also able to just suddenly drop carbs and fats (thus calories) whenever you want to lose weight when you get ''bloated'' yet at the same time you're arguing the fact that you don't have to drop calories to burn fat and can always lift more weight and eat in a constant surplus yet lose fat at the same time due to doing fasted cardio.

I wish you the best of luck. I've said all I had to say to you regarding this topic - you've figured out the question and key to bodybuilding in your 11 years of research. Good luck bro.

lmao

It's nothing spectacular... i am a basic lifter... i am not training for true strength...hence i am not that strong, but i emphasize that is the tradeoff you deal with when being a bodybuilder.... people see my lifts and think i am not big...sure i am not going to be that big with those stats but the way i use my strength to stimulate hypertrophy is another story.

you want to know my routine, this is my current workout: ask away:

A1
decline bench press 3 RPx15
high incline press 3 RPx15
reverse grip standing press 3 RPx15
chin ups 3 RPx15
barbell rows 2 SSx5, 10
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B1
underhand barbell row 2 SSx5, 10
reverse curl 1 SSx20
calf press on 45 degree leg press 1 SSx12
power squat 2 SSx5, 20
barbell hack squat 2 SSx5, 20
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A2
low incline bench press 3 RPx15
high incline smythe press 3 RPx15
dips 3 RPx15
pulldown 3 RPx15
hammer strength row 3 RPx15
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B2
standing barbell curl 3 RPx15
hammer curl 1 SSx20
seated calf press 1 SSx12
hack squat 2 SSx5, 20
stiff leg deadlift 2 SSx5, 10
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A3
smith low incline bench press 3 RPx15
high incline dumbbell press 3 RPx15
smith reverse grip bench press 3 RPx15
pull up 3 RPx15
deadlifts 2 SSx5, 10
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A3
preacher curl 3 RPx15
ez bar reverse curl 1 SSx20
calf press on horizontal leg press 1 SSx12
lying leg curl 3 RPx15
squat 2 SSx5, 20

2 SS = 2 straight sets

3 RP = 3 rest pause set, minimum 15 reps after all 3

i do 4 workouts per week, then the last 2 beginning next week, and then start over

Do you have bad shoulders or something? You seem to be avoiding flat benching by subbing in a lot of alternative *hipster presses*. Also half of your routine is fluff work and it's coming before your main compound exercises.

What are you weights are you moving? It seems as if you should be on 5/3/1 BBB or GZCLP - something like an upper lower with 2 x frequency per bodypart, 1 x in the strength range and 1 x in a hypertrophy range.

it's dc training, the order of lifts is 100% intentional

flat bench is shunned by the creator of the routine so i got influnced...but i did it with regular benching last blast and went from 245x12 to 275x9 in 7 weeks (those are the first rest pause set)

we do

chest
shoulders
tris
back width
back thickness

biceps
forearms
calves
hamstrings
quads

compounds for hamstrings come after squats

we do it this way because the creator dante says that's how it works best

and we do the easy lifts first to avoid gassing out by the end

I guess we can call those delts.

he said that rest pause training is the best method he learned to add strength (when training for hypertrophy of course)

back thickness and quads are not rest paused because it is dangerous, so one set of 5 for strength, and a back off for hypertrophy

hammer rows are rest paused because the lower back in not really involved, but when i was doing t bars, i was doing 2 SS. I was doing my strength set with 6 plates on the t bars

which lifts you want to know about? i cant list 30 numbers

squat,bench,deadlift,row, and ohp

You clearly have never bought a copy of FLEX magazine and used Jay Cutler’s workouts