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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
Yes he should have lost some weight and done a 4 the mad max.wish he would do some kinda braveheart/mad max mashup.
Arnold is suppose to be doing a new Conan its when Conan is old and is king.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Are you trying to insuate that every bad thing that happens on Earth is created and set up by God? Your getting the devil and God mixed up. An example being...God is the parent that doesn't want you getting hurt, but will let you have the keys to the car because you're an adult with the tools needed to drive safely. Satan is the one that tells you: "You have the tools to drive, you can easily handle alcohol with that." YOU are the person that decides through free will, if you drink and drive, or if you don't. God has already laid out his rules, as a parent would.Seriously? If I set a trap that will crush my child, and they are caught in said trap and die, will that hold up in court? I didn't want to rob him of free will.
Be honest, does that sound ridiculous or not?
Be honest, does that sound ridiculous or not?
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha , lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllWhat glory? Sacrificing yourself to yourself and then resurrecting yourself seems like just jerking off, but with extra steps.
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Originally Posted By C130pilot⏩
Has he? Whose parents do you know wait 2000 years, hand the rules out in a weird language to people on the other side of the world, and then wait for them to reach you, yet still get pissed at you if the rules are misconstrued? All the while not showing themselves and asking that you believe that they are in fact your parents, but you can't be sure, as there is no proof.Are you trying to insuate that every bad thing that happens on Earth is created and set up by God? Your getting the devil and God mixed up. An example being...God is the parent that doesn't want you getting hurt, but will have to let you have the keys to the car because you're an adult with the tools needed to drive safely. Satan is the one that tells you: "You have the tools to drive, you can easily handle alcohol with that." YOU are the person that decides through free will, if you drink and drive, or if you don't.God has already laid out his rules, as a parent would.
God created everything, including the devil, so every bit of bad that stems out of us, or the devil, it's all on him. He's the sole creator, so everything is on him solely. People only praise the good, everything that's good is because of god, but apparently, all the bad isn't because of god, is that how that works?
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im not religious or anything , but sometimes i sit there thinking
if jesus christ is god
how did he let himself get crucified?
even if he got himself crucified,if he is god, he shouldnt feel pain and shouldve been able to obliterate the jews who wanted to crucify him before even getting crucified
hence the crucifiction means jack sh!t because the creator of all things control everything
dunno brahs something doesnt add up
if jesus christ is god
how did he let himself get crucified?
even if he got himself crucified,if he is god, he shouldnt feel pain and shouldve been able to obliterate the jews who wanted to crucify him before even getting crucified
hence the crucifiction means jack sh!t because the creator of all things control everything
dunno brahs something doesnt add up
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02-02-2018, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
The fact that it makes no sense to you is a good indication of why you're a non-believer. I was exactly like you many years ago. Faith is a difficult concept for many and also the same people that don't understand it argue against as if their lives depend on it. Why is that?I have read it, and it makes no sense, and that's the issue.
To each their own but I've seen and experienced both sides of the coin. I'm better off with God on my side.
You quote Tecumseh but did you know his brother Tenskwatawa had a vision and started a religious movement.
Your quote from Tecumseh is very similar to the Bible.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
God did not create Lucifer as evil but allowed the potential for sin. While God cannot commit sin, He doesn’t take it away from those who do. When Lucifer chose to rebel, he instantly became the author of sin. Evil is the result of a free-will choice by Lucifer.Has he? Whose parents do you know wait 2000 years, hand the rules out in a weird language to people on the other side of the world, and then wait for them to reach you, yet still get pissed at you if the rules are misconstrued? All the while not showing themselves and asking that you believe that they are in fact your parents, but you can't be sure, as there is no proof.
God created everything, including the devil, so every bit of bad that stems out of us, or the devil, it's all on him. He's the sole creator, so everything is on him solely. People only praise the good, everything that's good is because of god, but apparently, all the bad isn't because of god, is that how that works?
God created everything, including the devil, so every bit of bad that stems out of us, or the devil, it's all on him. He's the sole creator, so everything is on him solely. People only praise the good, everything that's good is because of god, but apparently, all the bad isn't because of god, is that how that works?
Satan and sin don’t foil God’s divine purposes. Evil in stark contrast to good, shows God’s mercy to whom He chooses to provide salvation. God does in fact use evil and demons for His divine purposes. You can find that -----> (1 Samuel 16:15-16).
In conclusion,
Even if God directly appeared to and spoke with every person on Earth, not everyone would believe in Him. After all, God revealed Himself to mankind in the first-century speaking like “no man ever spoke” and working all KINDS of miracles; including, walking on water, healing the blind, reattaching severed body parts with the touch of His hand, and raising the dead. Yes, even though, for example, Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, and came back from the dead Himself, many still did not believe in Him they STILL rejected Him despite the fact that He (God) appeared to them face to face.
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Originally Posted By goingcia⏩
now that is fuking interesting.Saw an interview where he hinted that it wouldn't all take place on Earth. Just imagine how Mel is going to handle hell, demons, etc. An absolute hnnnnnggg
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
Comon broski, Jesus is the human incarnation of God's son. In other words, he's a spirit in a human body. His death was meant to be this sacrificial example of what can happen to regular people who follow God, no matter how bad chit gets.im not religious or anything , but sometimes i sit there thinking
if jesus christ is god
how did he let himself get crucified?
even if he got himself crucified,if he is god, he shouldnt feel pain and shouldve been able to obliterate the jews who wanted to crucify him before even getting crucified
hence the crucifiction means jack sh!t because the creator of all things control everything
dunno brahs something doesnt add up
if jesus christ is god
how did he let himself get crucified?
even if he got himself crucified,if he is god, he shouldnt feel pain and shouldve been able to obliterate the jews who wanted to crucify him before even getting crucified
hence the crucifiction means jack sh!t because the creator of all things control everything
dunno brahs something doesnt add up
I'm not even a Christian and I grasp that.
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jim caviezel is wasted on these bull**** movies. he's a brilliant actor though, but the only movie that did him justice was the thin red line.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
sure thing,I don't hate something I don't believe to be real, who does a human need salvation?
I can see how indifferent and non hateful you're towards Christ in your posts.
Actually think you're a good poster, but I don't agree with all this hate towards God and christianity. If you wish not to believe in Him, that's a shame. But at least don't hate it for no reason at all.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
You literally just told most of the story of the crucifixion. When he was being tempted by Satan, Satan pointed out that Christ could call angels down to feed him or to save him: "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: "'He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'"im not religious or anything , but sometimes i sit there thinking
if jesus christ is god
how did he let himself get crucified?
even if he got himself crucified,if he is god, he shouldnt feel pain and shouldve been able to obliterate the jews who wanted to crucify him before even getting crucified
hence the crucifiction means jack sh!t because the creator of all things control everything
dunno brahs something doesnt add up
if jesus christ is god
how did he let himself get crucified?
even if he got himself crucified,if he is god, he shouldnt feel pain and shouldve been able to obliterate the jews who wanted to crucify him before even getting crucified
hence the crucifiction means jack sh!t because the creator of all things control everything
dunno brahs something doesnt add up
So he could have easily called down destruction of the entire world, yes. But by definition Sacrifice doesn't allow for that.
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Originally Posted By niospecv⏩
I've never said the bible doesn't have good things in it, even a broken clock is right twice a day. When you take the bible as a whole, it's clear it's not inspired by god, it's just a bunch of stories about what people thought god would be like, and they were wrong. God is outside of time, yet everything mentioned in the bible is from the time the bible was written, why aren't there little nuggets that would tie in to the understanding we now know? The bible is supposed to be a book for all ages, not just for 2000 years ago.The fact that it makes no sense to you is a good indication of why you're a non-believer. I was exactly like you many years ago. Faith is a difficult concept for many and also the same people that don't understand it argue against as if their lives depend on it. Why is that?
To each their own but I've seen and experienced both sides of the coin. I'm better off with God on my side.
You quote Tecumseh but did you know his brother Tenskwatawa had a vision and started a religious movement.
Your quote from Tecumseh is very similar to the Bible.
To each their own but I've seen and experienced both sides of the coin. I'm better off with God on my side.
You quote Tecumseh but did you know his brother Tenskwatawa had a vision and started a religious movement.
Your quote from Tecumseh is very similar to the Bible.
I wasn't always a non believer, even then things just didn't sit right. Of course at that time I believed it was the devil coming after me.
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Originally Posted By C130pilot⏩
Personally, Life Without God is Empty. Too many people think of salvation as dealing only with something that occurs after death. The Bible says that “whoever believes in the Son has eternal life” (John 3:36). Eternal life is a present possession that Jesus defined as… “And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent” (John 17:3O).
This is not just knowing about God, but knowing God in a relationship that begins the moment that we are born again as His child, and starts to grow as we spend time with Him in His Word. It’s there that He opens up new things about Himself through His Spirit (like with a friend does as we get to know each other). It continues to grow as we learn to trust Him in practical ways (see Matthew 6:25-33) . We can already be good friends with God before we go to be with Him in heaven.
This is not just knowing about God, but knowing God in a relationship that begins the moment that we are born again as His child, and starts to grow as we spend time with Him in His Word. It’s there that He opens up new things about Himself through His Spirit (like with a friend does as we get to know each other). It continues to grow as we learn to trust Him in practical ways (see Matthew 6:25-33) . We can already be good friends with God before we go to be with Him in heaven.
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Originally Posted By niospecv⏩
people argue for and against circumcision, nofap, and what is more tuffer rugby or football. people like to argue about shiit bawse.The fact that it makes no sense to you is a good indication of why you're a non-believer. I was exactly like you many years ago. Faith is a difficult concept for many and also the same people that don't understand it argue against as if their lives depend on it. Why is that?
there's pages of people arguing about nofap.
Originally Posted By 2RDEYE⏩
thin red line was awesome, prob one of my favorite movies. i love the trippy voiceovers.jim caviezel is wasted on these bull**** movies. he's a brilliant actor though, but the only movie that did him justice was the thin red line.
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The Passion of the Christ was wicked intense in a crowded theater. Not being a religious guy, it was really unsettling sitting in a theater with a bunch of people writhing in their seats and crying about what they were seeing onscreen.
Was sorta mirin' their belief, but I have never been able to get on board beyond appreciating it as another good story.
Was sorta mirin' their belief, but I have never been able to get on board beyond appreciating it as another good story.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Okay, let's look at it from another perspective, we know that the BibleI've never said the bible doesn't have good things in it, even a broken clock is right twice a day. When you take the bible as a whole, it's clear it's not inspired by god, it's just a bunch of stories about what people thought god would be like, and they were wrong. God is outside of time, yet everything mentioned in the bible is from the time the bible was written, why aren't there little nuggets that would tie in to the understanding we now know? The bible is supposed to be a book for all ages, not just for 2000 years ago.
I wasn't always a non believer, even then things just didn't sit right. Of course at that time I believed it was the devil coming after me.
I wasn't always a non believer, even then things just didn't sit right. Of course at that time I believed it was the devil coming after me.
teaches that mankind is inherently evil and deserving of eternal death. Right? So logic would tell you, If man were responsible for the content of the Bible, the view of humanity would not be so dark, would it? we tend to make ourselves look good. The Bible also teaches that humans can do nothing of themselves to remedy their natural state. This, too, goes against human pride.
Now, let's take it another step deeper.
The Bible was written over a period of approximately 1k plus years, with at least 40 human writers. Most of whom did not know each other and were from different backgrounds.. You got what? You got a king, fisherman, tax collector, shepherd, etc.. The Bible was written in various environments (desert, prison, royal court, etc.). Three different languages were used to write the Bible, and, despite covering controversial subjects, it carries one single message. The circumstances surrounding the writing of the Bible would seem to guarantee its fallibility, and, yet, the message from Genesis to Revelation is uncannily consistent.
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Originally Posted By C130pilot⏩
Actually, the bible is a mess, you can contradict something on page 1, with something on page 5. Also, people always look at other people badly, humans default to bad, not good. So the bible is exactly inline with what you can expect from people. Also, why does god have emotions like a teenage woman in the bible? Because when people get mad they fixate, and they want their god to smite like they would if they could.Okay, let's look at it from another perspective, we know that the Bible
teaches that mankind is inherently evil and deserving of eternal death. Right? So logic would tell you, If man were responsible for the content of the Bible, the view of humanity would not be so dark, would it? we tend to make ourselves look good. The Bible also teaches that humans can do nothing of themselves to remedy their natural state. This, too, goes against human pride. Now,
Now let's take it another step deeper. The Bible was written over a period of approximately 1,k plus years, with at least 40 human writers. Most of whom did not know each other and were from different backgrounds.. You got king, fisherman, tax collector, shepherd, etc.. The Bible was written in various environments (desert, prison, royal court, etc.). Three different languages were used to write the Bible, and, despite covering controversial subjects, it carries one single message. The circumstances surrounding the writing of the Bible would seem to guarantee its fallibility, and, yet, the message from Genesis to Revelation is uncannily consistent.
teaches that mankind is inherently evil and deserving of eternal death. Right? So logic would tell you, If man were responsible for the content of the Bible, the view of humanity would not be so dark, would it? we tend to make ourselves look good. The Bible also teaches that humans can do nothing of themselves to remedy their natural state. This, too, goes against human pride. Now,
Now let's take it another step deeper. The Bible was written over a period of approximately 1,k plus years, with at least 40 human writers. Most of whom did not know each other and were from different backgrounds.. You got king, fisherman, tax collector, shepherd, etc.. The Bible was written in various environments (desert, prison, royal court, etc.). Three different languages were used to write the Bible, and, despite covering controversial subjects, it carries one single message. The circumstances surrounding the writing of the Bible would seem to guarantee its fallibility, and, yet, the message from Genesis to Revelation is uncannily consistent.
Why do you think there are 25k+ sects of Christianity?
And if humans are evil, it's because god made us so, so ultimately, it's his fault.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
so jesus isnt god? he is gods son?Comon broski, Jesus is the human incarnation of God's son. In other words, he's a spirit in a human body. His death was meant to be this sacrificial example of what can happen to regular people who follow God, no matter how bad chit gets.
I'm not even a Christian and I grasp that.
I'm not even a Christian and I grasp that.
Originally Posted By tnthudson⏩
which part of the bible is that, i remember wanting to read it ,but ended up with 20+ version of the bible"check list below" dunno man, you cant take something that has been printed many times and modified by man to be the word of godYou literally just told most of the story of the crucifixion. When he was being tempted by Satan, Satan pointed out that Christ could call angels down to feed him or to save him: "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: "'He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'"
So he could have easily called down destruction of the entire world, yes. But by definition Sacrifice doesn't allow for that.
So he could have easily called down destruction of the entire world, yes. But by definition Sacrifice doesn't allow for that.
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Originally Posted By reddanak⏩
It really was. I seen it there too and OMG. What you're saying is true. The intense emotion.The Passion of the Christ was wicked intense in a crowded theater. Not being a religious guy, it was really unsettling sitting in a theater with a bunch of people writhing in their seats and crying about what they were seeing onscreen.
Was sorta mirin' their belief, but I have never been able to get on board beyond appreciating it as another good story.
Was sorta mirin' their belief, but I have never been able to get on board beyond appreciating it as another good story.
I cried when I seen the Lion King, not this though.
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u forgot one hoss
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible
Using a razor and glue, Jefferson cut and pasted his arrangement of selected verses from the King James Version[11] of the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in chronological order—putting together excerpts from one text with those of another to create a single narrative. Thus he begins with Luke 2 and Luke 3, then follows with Mark 1 and Matthew 3. He provides a record of which verses he selected, and of the order he chose in his Table of the Texts from the Evangelists employed in this Narrative and of the order of their arrangement.
Consistent with his naturalistic outlook and intent, most supernatural events are not included in Jefferson's heavily edited compilation.
TJ wrote his own bible takin out all the magic shiit
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Using a razor and glue, Jefferson cut and pasted his arrangement of selected verses from the King James Version[11] of the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in chronological order—putting together excerpts from one text with those of another to create a single narrative. Thus he begins with Luke 2 and Luke 3, then follows with Mark 1 and Matthew 3. He provides a record of which verses he selected, and of the order he chose in his Table of the Texts from the Evangelists employed in this Narrative and of the order of their arrangement.
Consistent with his naturalistic outlook and intent, most supernatural events are not included in Jefferson's heavily edited compilation.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Context is everything. When God said to the sinner on the cross "Today you will be with me in paradise" Do you think that actually meant that day? Well, if we went off of JUST those words, it would. Yet, we know from the scripture that Jesus died, was buried, and in hell for three days before resurrecting to heaven. Correct? Therefore we should know that obviously that sinner was not in paradise that day with him. Clearly in that context a comma was missing. What was said was: "Today, You will be with me in paradise." Meaning, because he repented and asked forgiveness he was saved. So if we study, and we really study the Hebrew language as well as the context of each word- we can have the ability to differentiate and understand Gods word without confusion. However, that comes from study, prayer, and wisdom through that.Actually, the bible is a mess, you can contradict something on page 1, with something on page 5. Also, people always look at other people badly, humans default to bad, not good. So the bible is exactly inline with what you can expect from people. Also, why does god have emotions like a teenage woman in the bible? Because when people get mad they fixate, and they want their god to smite like they would if they could.
Why do you think there are 25k+ sects of Christianity?
And if humans are evil, it's because god made us so, so ultimately, it's his fault.
Why do you think there are 25k+ sects of Christianity?
And if humans are evil, it's because god made us so, so ultimately, it's his fault.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
Psalm 91:12 was the original writings in the Old Testament, quoted by Satan in Matthew 4:6.which part of the bible is that, i remember wanting to read it ,but ended up with 20+ version of the bible"check list below" dunno man, you cant take something that has been printed many times and modified by man to be the word of god
And you're getting into Theology now, congratulations.
The idea is that even though much of God's word was written thousands of years ago, it has persevered (found in caves, lasted through time, kings trying to destroy it, etc.)Now- we have to translate it to different languages to get it to all people, so obviously the message still comes through even when translated. So I can see people using a more modern version in English, for example, to skip the 'thees' and 'thous.'
But I personally read the KJV. It had a MAJOR vetting process for all the translators and alot of work went in to get it as accurately-translated as possible. So I look at it as the original tape measure that was carefully measured, exacted, etc. The other tape measures may be fine, but I'd rather use the original.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
yeah technically because he was created by God. Also there's something in Christianity about how the spirit in Jesus was actually born before time, until he finally manifested in human form as Jesus of Nazareth.so jesus isnt god? he is gods son?
I haven't read the whole bible, nor am I particularly religious, but I find the story interesting. Plus I believe there's a line where God's voice from heaven is heard calling an infant Jesus "my son". so Jesus couldn't be God.
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Originally Posted By tnthudson⏩
i can understand having one translated version of the bible hence the kjb because the original one is extremely complicated in terms of grammar and old english. but i dont see the point of having 40+ translated versions of the biblePsalm 91:12 was the original writings in the Old Testament, quoted by Satan in Matthew 4:6.
And you're getting into Theology now, congratulations.
The idea is that even though much of God's word was written thousands of years ago, it has persevered (found in caves, lasted through time, kings trying to destroy it, etc.)
Now- we have to translate it to different languages to get it to all people, so obviously the message still comes through even when translated. So I can see people using a more modern version in English, for example, to skip the 'thees' and 'thous.'
But I personally read the KJV. It had a MAJOR vetting process for all the translators and alot of work went in to get it as accurately-translated as possible. So I look at it as the original tape measure that was carefully measured, exacted, etc. The other tape measures may be fine, but I'd rather use the original.
And you're getting into Theology now, congratulations.
The idea is that even though much of God's word was written thousands of years ago, it has persevered (found in caves, lasted through time, kings trying to destroy it, etc.)Now- we have to translate it to different languages to get it to all people, so obviously the message still comes through even when translated. So I can see people using a more modern version in English, for example, to skip the 'thees' and 'thous.'
But I personally read the KJV. It had a MAJOR vetting process for all the translators and alot of work went in to get it as accurately-translated as possible. So I look at it as the original tape measure that was carefully measured, exacted, etc. The other tape measures may be fine, but I'd rather use the original.
Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
i think all the spirits of god prophets existed before time, its wasnt just jesus and yeah i agree jesus couldnt be godyeah technically because he was created by God. Also there's something in Christianity about how the spirit in Jesus was actually born before time, until he finally manifested in human form as Jesus of Nazareth.
I haven't read the whole bible, nor am I particularly religious, but I find the story interesting. Plus I believe there's a line where God's voice from heaven is heard calling an infant Jesus "my son". so Jesus couldn't be God.
I haven't read the whole bible, nor am I particularly religious, but I find the story interesting. Plus I believe there's a line where God's voice from heaven is heard calling an infant Jesus "my son". so Jesus couldn't be God.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
Yup that's how I understood it.i think all the spirits of god prophets existed before time, its wasnt just jesus and yeah i agree jesus couldnt be god
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport⏩
It's pretty clear in John 8 he makes the claim he's God. First he says he actually knows Abraham. Second he says, "Before Abraham, I am". This phrase I AM is essentially the hebrew word for God. This why they wanted to stone him.yeah technically because he was created by God. Also there's something in Christianity about how the spirit in Jesus was actually born before time, until he finally manifested in human form as Jesus of Nazareth.
I haven't read the whole bible, nor am I particularly religious, but I find the story interesting. Plus I believe there's a line where God's voice from heaven is heard calling an infant Jesus "my son". so Jesus couldn't be God.
I haven't read the whole bible, nor am I particularly religious, but I find the story interesting. Plus I believe there's a line where God's voice from heaven is heard calling an infant Jesus "my son". so Jesus couldn't be God.
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Originally Posted By tnthudson⏩
Modern translations actually source from much older texts than the KJV. Of course you don't have to rely on translations if you simply learn the langauges the bible is written in.Psalm 91:12 was the original writings in the Old Testament, quoted by Satan in Matthew 4:6.
And you're getting into Theology now, congratulations.The idea is that even though much of God's word was written thousands of years ago, it has persevered (found in caves, lasted through time, kings trying to destroy it, etc.)
Now- we have to translate it to different languages to get it to all people, so obviously the message still comes through even when translated. So I can see people using a more modern version in English, for example, to skip the 'thees' and 'thous.'
But I personally read the KJV. It had a MAJOR vetting process for all the translators and alot of work went in to get it as accurately-translated as possible. So I look at it as the original tape measure that was carefully measured, exacted, etc. The other tape measures may be fine, but I'd rather use the original.
And you're getting into Theology now, congratulations.
The idea is that even though much of God's word was written thousands of years ago, it has persevered (found in caves, lasted through time, kings trying to destroy it, etc.)Now- we have to translate it to different languages to get it to all people, so obviously the message still comes through even when translated. So I can see people using a more modern version in English, for example, to skip the 'thees' and 'thous.'
But I personally read the KJV. It had a MAJOR vetting process for all the translators and alot of work went in to get it as accurately-translated as possible. So I look at it as the original tape measure that was carefully measured, exacted, etc. The other tape measures may be fine, but I'd rather use the original.
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