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Thread: Still don't look like I lift - seeking advice (SRS)

post 1543555251 02-12-2018, 07:09 AM
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All I can say is that with those numbers.. You should at least some form of muscle. Like others have said, dial in your protein, make sure you're sleeping enough and stop solely focusing on strength.

I trained for strength because I had the same mindset you do.. If I could bench 315 my chest would have to be big right? Wrong, I'm currently at 225x10 and still got a poverty chest, but it didn't start improving until I ramped up the volume and actually trained with a bro bodybuilding style. I'm talking supersets, dropsets, slow controlled form, etc. Do I still train for strength? Absolutely, but its not my sole focus now. Muscle growth is all about volume added over time. Strength will come as a byproduct. All else fails, get yourself to an endocrinologist. If your t levels came back low then that could definitely inhibit you.
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post 1543555551 02-12-2018, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted By davik⏩
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imgur.com/6YyP2jW

once again 191/87kg at 6ft. i look pretty much the same as when i started lifting except some width. i know squared back of my head, whatever
I have a very hard time believing those lifts you posted...
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Originally Posted By davik⏩
btw routine wise, i ran texas method for a year. added 30-40 kg to my squat and deadlift. press went up 10 kg. i started running 531 w/ jokers, first set last and a reverse pyramid, a month ago, since the volume day was taking me out and i liked the slower progression. but come to think of it, i couldve just tweaked tm. dunno. the only accessories im doing at the moment are chin ups and rear delt work
thats your problem boyo

your not getting enough volume to cause muscles to grow.
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post 1543556381 02-12-2018, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Jax05⏩
I have a very hard time believing those lifts you posted...
read the reply to the other person who said something similar
post 1543556531 02-12-2018, 07:29 AM
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You are lying about your lifts or you are 1/4 squatting on a smith machine.

Like most people here said - Stop following starting strength. Stop doing CICO or IIFYM, eat actual food. Drop the whey and sups - get your nutrition through actual food. Up your cals, up your you volume, lower the weight. GVT, or 20 consecutive reps of lower weight, not fully extending.

Dunno what else to say, if I looked like that after 4 years I'd quit.
post 1543556581 02-12-2018, 07:30 AM
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HIIT, more protein in your diet. Cut all sugar
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post 1543556741 02-12-2018, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted By VascuBrah⏩
You are lying about your lifts or you are 1/4 squatting on a smith machine.

Like most people here said - Stop following starting strength. Stop doing CICO or IIFYM, eat actual food. Drop the whey and sups - get your nutrition through actual food. Up your cals, up your you volume, lower the weight. GVT, or 20 consecutive reps of lower weight, not fully extending.


Dunno what else to say, if I looked like that after 4 years I'd quit.
Why would you quit? Bodybuilding.com is basically just weightlifting.com nowadays. Lifting weights doesn't mean you're going for the gregg plitt physique anymore.
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post 1543556901 02-12-2018, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted By VascuBrah⏩
You are lying about your lifts or you are 1/4 squatting on a smith machine.

Like most people here said - Stop following starting strength. Stop doing CICO or IIFYM, eat actual food. Drop the whey and sups - get your nutrition through actual food. Up your cals, up your you volume, lower the weight. GVT, or 20 consecutive reps of lower weight, not fully extending.

Dunno what else to say, if I looked like that after 4 years I'd quit.
im not lying about my lifts. all the stuff you said i already am aware of. im not a noob at this theory wise or actual experience wise either. i have been slightly stronger in the past but i weighed 227 so im actually even stronger lb for lb then ive ever been so its worse. i am thinking of drastically changing my approach though
post 1543557021 02-12-2018, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted By AlamedaBoy⏩
Why would you quit? Bodybuilding.com is basically just weightlifting.com nowadays. Lifting weights doesn't mean you're going for the gregg plitt physique anymore.
Because I'm a vain narcissist that flexes in the mirror between sets? Do you think I spend all of that time in the gym for health reasons? It's not like OP can go up to a sloot "hey bby I can squat 4pl8 u want sum fuk?"
post 1543557201 02-12-2018, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
You see his age right? So training and eating right and progressive resistance from a noob starting at age 16 to 20 how much mass do you reckon a male could gain
There is MAYBE less than 1% of the population (genetic freaks) who could put on 45lbs of SOLID MUSCLE MASS in 4 and a half years natty. 160lbs at 10% bodyfat is a world away from 160lbs at 20% bodyfat. Fake natties got the game fukked up. Solid muscle (10% BF or less), I'd say he would be lucky to go from 160-175lbs in 4.5 years.
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post 1543557421 02-12-2018, 07:40 AM
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You need to cut.........and I mean farther and longer than you have in the past. Don't let the scale mess with your head. At some point, probably around 180, you'll look in the mirror and think that you are way too skinny. Keep cutting. The illusion of bodybuilding is a wonderful thing, once you reach a certain bodyfat level you'll look bigger even though you weigh a lot less. Cut until you reach that point.
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post 1543557461 02-12-2018, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted By HockeyBacon18⏩
powerlifting causing more DYEL physiques than starting strength ever dud

1. do more volume.

2. workout 5-6x a week instead of 3

3. do exercises other than sbd

4. stop following IIFYM. eat good food.
SS only caused DYEL bodies from the waist up.
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post 1543557571 02-12-2018, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted By davik⏩
im not lying about my lifts. all the stuff you said i already am aware of. im not a noob at this theory wise or actual experience wise either. i have been slightly stronger in the past but i weighed 227 so im actually even stronger lb for lb then ive ever been so its worse. i am thinking of drastically changing my approach though
K well if srs try GVT or try what I was saying about 20 reps. At your numbers, lets say squat, I'd put 225 on the bar, and do 20 rep sets but don't finish the rep with your knees fully extended like you would when you are training strength. You'll feel a continuous burn that you aren't used to if you've been strength training for a long time. Start with squats so you really get the feel of it, but then bring that same technique into your other exercises later, (but stop in the 12-15 rep range)

I'd say a piece of it might be psychological as well. Some people lift with their egos. I've seen people do dumbbell flies with 50s like ****ing morons lifting with their arms... muscle-mind connection know what muscle you are training at the moment and lift with it. remember the queues, (squeeze pencil between delts when working back, contract pecs to move weight together when doing DB flies, etc)

it's hard to explain but it works

good luck buddy
post 1543558081 02-12-2018, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
SS only caused DYEL bodies from the waist up.
did u see his pic? verystrong DYEL upper physique
Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
There is MAYBE less than 1% of the population (genetic freaks) who could put on 45lbs of SOLID MUSCLE MASS in 4 and a half years natty. 160lbs at 10% bodyfat is a world away from 160lbs at 20% bodyfat. Fake natties got the game fukked up. Solid muscle (10% BF or less), I'd say he would be lucky to go from 160-175lbs in 4.5 years.
in 4 and a HALF YEARS? Yea 45lbs is definitely doable if he was UNTRAINED to begin with. Of course he wont be able to put on ANOTHER 45lbs over the next 5+ years (hell even over 10 years id doubt it)
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post 1543558191 02-12-2018, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted By davik⏩
Pics:
imgur.com/GyT1Bh4
imgur.com/6YyP2jW

once again 191/87kg at 6ft. i look pretty much the same as when i started lifting except some width. i know squared back of my head, whatever
I don't know how you lift so much looking like that. Mind blown.


You must not do any accessory exercises or something to achieve solid numbers on the big lifts with such a lacking physique.
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Originally Posted By davik⏩
im not lying about my lifts. all the stuff you said i already am aware of. im not a noob at this theory wise or actual experience wise either. i have been slightly stronger in the past but i weighed 227 so im actually even stronger lb for lb then ive ever been so its worse. i am thinking of drastically changing my approach though
Shut the f*ck up then and post your lifts you pussy.

I wanna see those pathetically skinny arms wiggle and shake.
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post 1543558871 02-12-2018, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted By jonB89⏩
Shut the f*ck up then and post your lifts you pussy.

I wanna see those pathetically skinny arms wiggle and shake.
i dont even think theyre that impressive. these are lifts that take like 2 years to get and ive gotten them after 3 then again after 4. my total is barely over 1k
post 1543559011 02-12-2018, 08:03 AM
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a lot of you are really bringing to light my suspicion of low test. i dont think genetics would manifest this way, because if at least have decent body comp
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Originally Posted By HockeyBacon18⏩
did u see his pic? verystrong DYEL upper physique

in 4 and a HALF YEARS? Yea 45lbs is definitely doable if he was UNTRAINED to begin with. Of course he wont be able to put on ANOTHER 45lbs over the next 5+ years (hell even over 10 years id doubt it)
He was 16 to begin with
I’d have thought 30lbs or so over that length of time more than doable
I think his training is probably to blame and he needs to train for aesthetics cos that’s what he’s complaining about
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Originally Posted By davik⏩
a lot of you are really bringing to light my suspicion of low test. i dont think genetics would manifest this way, because if at least have decent body comp
LOL no one said you had low test, but good job in justifying your desire to hop on the juice. To each their own, but fwiw you are way too young. If you can't achieve a decent physique naturally pumping hormones into your body won't help
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I went straight to pics after first post and my first thought was holy chit man, you gotta cut! big time!
Don't worry about muscle loss either, that will come back quick enough.
Hit the HIIT cardio hard and lift to try and maintain/reduce muscle loss. But focus on sweating your balls off melting that fat away for the next few months.
Eat in a substantia deficit.
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Originally Posted By VascuBrah⏩
LOL no one said you had low test, but good job in justifying your desire to hop on the juice. To each their own, but fwiw you are way too young. If you can't achieve a decent physique naturally pumping hormones into your body won't help
na at least 4 people said endo. ive done one blood test and i got a bit over 11 nmol/L and the range is 6-23 or somethign like that. i want to confirm by doing proper testing. i dont know if i want to take it further, but then again my lifes been **** in general for years and maybe this could be it. lifting is a big part of it
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To rule it out

There is nothing wrong with you that proper training and nutrition wouldn’t resolve
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Originally Posted By davik⏩
na at least 4 people said endo. ive done one blood test and i got a bit over 11 nmol/L and the range is 6-23 or somethign like that. i want to confirm by doing proper testing. i dont know if i want to take it further, but then again my lifes been **** in general for years and maybe this could be it. lifting is a big part of it
11 ng/dL? Which would equate to about 315 nmol/L

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Originally Posted By davik⏩
na at least 4 people said endo. ive done one blood test and i got a bit over 11 nmol/L and the range is 6-23 or somethign like that. i want to confirm by doing proper testing. i dont know if i want to take it further, but then again my lifes been **** in general for years and maybe this could be it. lifting is a big part of it
at least 4 people said endo after you fix your routine and diet, and see no changes.
you most likely eat like garbage, you do 531 which will get you nowhere physique wise.
eat better and do more volume and rest more. get a good workout in, don't just go through the motions.
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this is a marathon not a sprint, take a few days to think it over and start cutting, this is a setback but it is not the end. Write down all the things you've been doing and focus on the ones that you think aren't working, be it routine, poor sleep/nutrition... and fix them. GL
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Originally Posted By VascuBrah⏩
11 ng/dL? Which would equate to about 315 nmol/L

Lay off the soy, ***got
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Similar fukkin feeels as op ... Actually was gonna make a thread about it in the misc, but too scare and embarrased srs.. I'll get around to it.




We will make it op. Also get on a good proven full body novice routine. Also your back looks like it has potential. We prolly have a similar build/inserts lmao.



edit - You're on starting strength? ... sorry imo that's a chit program. Get on the AlphaDestiny Novice Program or Fierce Five ... At least it balances itself between compounds and isolations (powerbuilding routines , so you have a mix of high and low reps for exercies)
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Originally Posted By davik⏩
When I say I don't look like I lift, I mean shirtless. Now my AVI was taken at join date, but currently I just look maybe 10-15% bigger. My main issue is that I still have a lot of fat, but I don't understand why. I am 6ft, weigh 191 and within the last 3 weeks have squatted 420, benched 225, deadlifted 455 and ohped 175. I can also do about 12 deadhang chin ups with no stretch reflex. I tested my 1rm on bent rows (stopped doing them) and got 225 pretty easy.

But I look like **** no joke. I feel like im 20-25% bf. I get outline of my abs after a workout but if I flex so I dont know if my estimate is too high or not. I am contemplating a cut to end all cuts down to 160ish, since my last cut to 180 or so I stopped because I already lost about 40 lbs.

So is it just normal and Im lazy or havnt lost the fat I started with, low test or bad genetics for size? Like i seriously look like ****, even with a pump and warm lighting.

***pics at post 33
Those are actually respectable lifts.
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