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post 1551476491 05-14-2018, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted By 2Chad4You⏩
If the punishment prevents serious crimes in future, then yes. So it depends on situation.
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Originally Posted By Afiss⏩
A crime of passion (French: crime passionnel), in popular usage, refers to a violent crime, especially homicide, in which the perpetrator commits the act against someone because of sudden strong impulse such as sudden rage

Just wondering if you think road ragers should receive 15 years in jail for killing someone I guess lmao
as opposed to? Also, you are forgetting a VERY crucial work of the term you are trying to define... PASSION. Were these drivers low key fukkin or something?
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
Oh got...we don't hate women enough...we need more reasons.
Women receive 65% less prison sentences than men for the same crime. This is a well known fact.
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
What's the issue?
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Women receive 65% less prison sentences than men for the same crime. This is a well known fact.
I would be genuinely interested in reading the source of your post. care to share?
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
Women receive 65% less prison sentences than men for the same crime. This is a well known fact.
Lol I will take nothing you say in regards to female seriously...sorry man.

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post 1551476841 05-14-2018, 08:58 AM
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My grandmother (persian side) found out my granddad was cheating on her back in the 70s, my mum told me a story about how her mum made her drive around in a little 2cv tailing my grandfather while he was cruising around with a mistress. Despite all that she stuck with him, different era and culture I guess when families stuck together no matter what. These days no one bats an eye if a woman destroys a family because she "fell out of love" but somehow a man destroying a family by cheating justifies murder? Can't have it both ways.
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa⏩
Lol I will take nothing you say in regards to female seriously...sorry man.

Boarding a plane...back to this darling topic in a bit.
That's nice. Maybe you'll take Google seriously.
Originally Posted By chino3⏩
I would be genuinely interested in reading the source of your post. care to share?
Sorry, it was 63%.

https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinf...sparities.aspx
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According to a recent study by Sonja Starr, an assistant law professor at the University of Michigan, men on average receive 63 percent longer prison sentences than women who commit comparable crimes. Reinforcing data accumulated from numerous other surveys on the subject, Starr also found that women are twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted of a crime – which may explain why 90% of the prison population is male – and estimated that the gender gap in sentencing could be as much as six times as large as that between white and non-whites (more on that in a moment). Despite this trend, the existing tendency among progressives has been to push for changes that only exacerbate the problem, such as the concerted effort among British feminists to abolish female prisons altogether.
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Crime of passion, 15 years seems about right
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser⏩
That's nice. Maybe you'll take Google seriously.



Sorry, it was 63%.

https://www.law.umich.edu/newsandinf...sparities.aspx
https://goodmenproject.com/ethics-va...o-prison-mrzs/



Other studies:

https://journalistsresource.org/stud...ing-bond-women
Interdasting, but I am more curious now about the amount of priors that the respective genders had/didn't have, or if there were enhancements for the males that were not applicable to females. For the unaware, enhancements carry mandatory minimums, and can actually lead to sentencing that is longer than the actual initial charge was in the first place.

For example, a simple assault charge can carry up to a 6 month sentence in jail. If you are affiliated with a gang, you get slapped with a gang enhancement which carries a state minimum of 1 year (but federal up to 3 years), so that 6 month sentence just became an 18 month sentence.
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
Interdasting, but I am more curious now about the amount of priors that the respective genders had/didn't have, or if there were enhancements for the males that were not applicable to females. For the unaware, enhancements carry mandatory minimums, and can actually lead to sentencing that is longer than the actual initial charge was in the first place.
To my understanding (I'd have to dig for other articles with more data on the Starr study), all of those factors were taken into account, and women are still given 63% lesser sentencing. It's similar to the white/black gap, where black people are given longer sentences than white people for the same crimes.
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Originally Posted By nzgs⏩
My grandmother (persian side) found out my granddad was cheating on her back in the 70s, my mum told me a story about how her mum made her drive around in a little 2cv tailing my grandfather while he was cruising around with a mistress. Despite all that she stuck with him, different era and culture I guess when families stuck together no matter what. These days no one bats an eye if a woman destroys a family because she "fell out of love" but somehow a man destroying a family by cheating justifies murder? Can't have it both ways.
lol she got the maximum sentence. not sure what you are so salty about.
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she did the crime and did the time...
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Originally Posted By johnnyboi123⏩
1.you think killing somebody over cheating is justified?
2. you think 15 years for premeditated murder is fair punishment?
1. Yes, you devote your whole life to someone and then they treat you like trash. Only think this in a marriage. Play Stupid games etc.
2. No she should have been in their for life. Still worth it though. Needs to 15 years for men too though, and less if its a crime of passion for both genders.

Full disclosure, society is morally bankrupt right now, mostly because everyone cheats on their SO and does whatever the please with no regard to anyone else. If a few cheaters get murdered here and there and that helps steer things back around I am willing to take those deaths as acceptable casualties.
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Originally Posted By theend2⏩
lol she got the maximum sentence. not sure what you are so salty about.
He's salty because the good doctor couldn't cheat on his wife, and come home to a hot meal and a blow job like his grandfather used to do.
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Originally Posted By theend2⏩
lol she got the maximum sentence. not sure what you are so salty about.
Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
He's salty because the good doctor couldn't cheat on his wife, and come home to a hot meal and a blow job like his grandfather used to do.
Not sure if you guys (and Bobby) are just playing stupid to troll people or what, but it's pretty clear that people are salty because a person murdered another person on purpose in cold blood and is walking around free only fifteen years later.

In this case it's a woman and there are other implications that some are hanging their hats on. I'm not a woman hater like most of the misc, so that part is far less interesting to me.

But in my perfect world, no one kills another person on purpose in cold blood (not in self defense) and walks around free in fifteen years. Probably not ever.
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Where does intent come into play here vis-a-vis the law?

I get that it wasn't premeditated murder. But what about during the act when murder seemingly becomes the intent. For comparisons sake there have been cases when a person doesn't get hit with premeditated murder when being involved in a fight that the other person dies in. Something freak happens like the person is KOd and then boom falls and hits head on pavement.

In this case the woman runs over the husband. Stops. Reverses. Runs him over. Stops. Runs him over...etc.

This was all caught on video. Killing the person sounds like the driver's intention.
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
Not sure if you guys (and Bobby) are just playing stupid to troll people or what, but it's pretty clear that people are salty because a person murdered another person on purpose in cold blood and is walking around free only fifteen years later.

In this case it's a woman and there are other implications that some are hanging their hats on. I'm not a woman hater like most of the misc, so that part is far less interesting to me.

But in my perfect world, no one kills another person on purpose in cold blood (not in self defense) and walks around free in fifteen years. Probably not ever.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
Well this isn't your perfect world, it's the real world.
Now you know why people are salty. You don't have to be confused anymore.

When people kill people like that, we don't think they should be free in less time than people selling dope.
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Originally Posted By johnnyboi123⏩
1.you think killing somebody over cheating is justified?
2. you think 15 years for premeditated murder is fair punishment?
1. no
2. yes

That's normal murder time. You think every murderer gets life or something?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
You think every murderer gets life or something?
Not every murder is intentional. Sometimes there are mitigating circumstances (such as an abusive situation or a mutual fight that led to a shooting).

There are no mitigating circumstances here. Theres just a woman who got pissed off and ran someone over repeatedly with a car.

These aren't the kinds of people we want walking around freely.
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
Not sure if you guys (and Bobby) are just playing stupid to troll people or what, but it's pretty clear that people are salty because a person murdered another person on purpose in cold blood and is walking around free only fifteen years later.

In this case it's a woman and there are other implications that some are hanging their hats on. I'm not a woman hater like most of the misc, so that part is far less interesting to me.

But in my perfect world, no one kills another person on purpose in cold blood (not in self defense) and walks around free in fifteen years. Probably not ever.
i was just trolling the idiot that was trying to say a man would have gotten a harsher sentence. I think the punishment for taking a life should be the death penalty but that gets a little dicey when there are wrongful convictions and stuff like that happening. In reality she probably was well behaved in prison or she wouldnt have been let out early. Im assuming she has no prior convictions or a criminal record due to her former job as a dentist. Shes not a threat to society or any other chit like that. prisons are overcrowded and underfunded as it is
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I don't know much about trials - but off top I'm guessing emotional response to adultery is a consideration when sentencing someone in her position. Same reason heat of passion crime is punished less harshly than premeditated.

And of course some defendants play the odd sob story which may be true or not, such as being abused by their spouse.

Not defending her at all though - just making sense of how courts come to these conclusions.
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Originally Posted By chino3⏩
as opposed to? Also, you are forgetting a VERY crucial work of the term you are trying to define... PASSION. Were these drivers low key fukkin or something?
Passion =/= romance or love
Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
Not sure if you guys (and Bobby) are just playing stupid to troll people or what, but it's pretty clear that people are salty because a person murdered another person on purpose in cold blood and is walking around free only fifteen years later.
Not just murdered another person, but slowly and deliberately murdered another person IN FRONT OF HIS CHILD. She ran him over repeatedly while his daughter was in the car with her.
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This isn't as bad as the schizo who ate some random person in a bus being let back into society. Atleast this woman doesn't pose an active threat to society.

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I can't imagine the thought process that can reason the release of a violent offender while ignoring the containment of non-violent offenders for longer. I know the husband was a POS cheater, but that's no excuse to take someone's dad away. I have a hard time justifying 15 years as a proper deterrent for this type of action. I am pretty sure she would make the same decision again.
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
Now you know why people are salty. You don't have to be confused anymore.

When people kill people like that, we don't think they should be free in less time than people selling dope.
She was sentenced to 20 years, she served 15 and was paroled. That is a legal issue. People can be salty all they want, these are the parameters set by our judicial system. Her husband was cheating,she lost her chit after confronting him and his mistress at the hotel they got married at. If the murder was premeditated, sure, but It wasn't like she sat down for months planning out an elaborate way of murdering her husband. You have Kenneth Peacock who murdered his wife for cheating in 1984, and he got 18 months. Then you have James Lynn Jr. who had his murder conviction overturned for killing his wife, and Anthony Simoneau who had his conviction reduced from 25 to 11 years for killing his wife in the "heat of passion".

While I don't agree with the draconian laws, and sentencing structure when dealing with drug sentencing, I don't wish this woman a life behind bars because she did something a lot of people would consider doing when put in the same position.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress⏩
1. no
2. yes

That's normal murder time. You think every murderer gets life or something?
Err, premeditated murder is First Degree Murder punishable by 25yrs-Life.

Not sure why you think 15 years applies to 1st degree.
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Originally Posted By badbl00d⏩
I don't wish this woman a life behind bars because she did something a lot of people would consider doing when put in the same position.
I do.
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