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Thread: I thought Jordan Peterson was a level headed guy until i saw this (carnivore diet)

post 1560872211 09-09-2018, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted By skewermode⏩
In the clip Jordan claimed he didn't sleep for 25days after consuming ACV, and that for me pretty much discredited every other claim he made. Well I should say I believe some of his claims, just not to the degree he's claimed, because 25 days no sleep is absolute absurdity.

It also sounds like he suffered from extreme mental issues, juggled various medications and eventually came off during this change, so who knows to what degree they affected his mentality towards his and his families illnesses during that time..

Impossible to know if these claims are exaggerated or not. But the ACV claim alone leads me to believe he exaggerated the chit out of them. Did he also say an apple or something crippled his daughter for 30 days?

Thought the whole clip was intredasting though, saw a completely different side to him. Seems like he was pretty messed up in the past, probably still is given the extreme of his diet. He doesn't even vary his meat, pretty whack. Just eats cow steak, fried fat, and drinks water.. wtf.



Pretty much this for me.

I'm waiting to hear peoples experiences with this way of eating after doing it for a few years too.

They briefly touch on an interesting point in the clip, where they mention vegans feel great, look great, and life is just great at the beginning, but somewhere along the way things start sliding down hill and picking up speed. Interested to see if the carnivore diet follows a similar path.
Apple cider, not ACV. And I believe he meant "no sleep" in the figurative sense.
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Originally Posted By Dirtymanjames⏩
He does the carnivore diet to help support his daughter.

His daughter suffers from numerous life threatening illnesses and the carnivore diet seems to be helping her.

Many misinformed people posting in here.
lol at the delusional miscers. so as long as someone isn't saying their diet is superior to everyone (like many vegans) then just shut the **** up about it.

you nimrods really think the selection of one's diet determines their IQ? Most of you are in the gym 6 days a week and still look like ****. you must be ****ing retarded by your own standards
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so him saying something you dont agree with or is possibly unsound direct immediately negates everything else the man has contributed for general knowledge of the human psyche?
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What's the problem? He acknowledges he's not a dietician within the first 5 seconds of speaking. There's no pretense. Can't a guy talk about what's worked for him?
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LOL at people ragging on his as unscientific. He says several times during the interview that he is A) Not an expert in the field and B) He is absolutely not recommending the diet.

God forbid that someone should try something, find it extremely benefiical and want to share it with the world
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Originally Posted By skewermode⏩
In the clip Jordan claimed he didn't sleep for 25days after consuming ACV, and that for me pretty much discredited every other claim he made. Well I should say I believe some of his claims, just not to the degree he's claimed, because 25 days no sleep is absolute absurdity.

It also sounds like he suffered from extreme mental issues, juggled various medications and eventually came off during this change, so who knows to what degree they affected his mentality towards his and his families illnesses during that time..

Impossible to know if these claims are exaggerated or not. But the ACV claim alone leads me to believe he exaggerated the chit out of them. Did he also say an apple or something crippled his daughter for 30 days?

Thought the whole clip was intredasting though, saw a completely different side to him. Seems like he was pretty messed up in the past, probably still is given the extreme of his diet. He doesn't even vary his meat, pretty whack. Just eats cow steak, fried fat, and drinks water.. wtf.
As someone who experienced a familiar phenomenon I can say that when he says 'didn't sleep' he mean 'Felt like he didn't sleep'. I had terrible insomnia for almost 4 weeks and it felt like I would literally lay in bed all night and not fall asleep once. The reality was that I'd be lying in bed for 2 hours awake, fall asleep for 40 minutes, wake up for an hour, fall asleep for 20 minutes and so on and so on. You end up getting like 2-4 hours of very low quality sleep over an 8 hours period but perceptually it honestly does feel like you haven't fallen asleep despite getting just enough sleep to not die.

The accumulation of sleep debt is phucking horrendous though. I believe to this day that it might have done long term damage to my brain
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Just lol @ people acting like we arent evolved to eat veggies just because some mentally ill fuks insist on it. Good luck ever taking a real chit again on a 100% meat diet.
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Originally Posted By DatPass⏩
Just lol @ people acting like we arent evolved to eat veggies just because some mentally ill fuks insist on it. Good luck ever taking a real chit again on a 100% meat diet.
I hardly eat veggies, and my strength levels are pretty awesome.

I intentionally stay away from veggies because I suspect some can goof with protein synthesis.
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Originally Posted By Deathguard⏩
I hardly eat veggies, and my strength levels are pretty awesome.

I intentionally stay away from veggiesbecause I suspect some can goof with protein synthesis.
Based on what?
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Well watch the fukking video before criticizing him, or don't post. Otherwise you are LITERALLY doing the same thing as mainstream media watching sheep.
People just read the headlines and not actually look at the overall content and context it's in. It's sad really.
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Why are miscers so passionately stupid about the things they eat?

Guy says he found a diet that works for him. Miscers don't like the diet and use it to discredit everything he's ever said
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Originally Posted By faketaxidriver⏩
What if it worked for him? I don't think he suggested that every person on the face of the earth should start eating nothing but meat.
This. I recall (when I listened to the whole interview) specifically hearing him say that he doesn't know what he's talking about, but it just works for him.

It must be too hard to accept that there are outliers for whom what is normal may not work. Too much complexity for the average miscer that discredits a pretty legit dude for something totally unrelated to his field of expertise lol
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Originally Posted By PAU1⏩
Apple cider, not ACV.
Thanks for the correction. Just learned apple cider isn't alcohol over there. Guess it threw me when he said he doesn't drink alcohol so my mind jumped to ACV.
Originally Posted By PAU1⏩
And I believe he meant "no sleep" in the figurative sense.
Originally Posted By PaddleBunt⏩
As someone who experienced a familiar phenomenon I can say that when he says 'didn't sleep' he mean 'Felt like he didn't sleep'.
It was the way he said he didn't sleep for 25 days, combined with a straight serious face when Joe questioned him on it. He talks about the importance of speaking precisely, so I guess this also threw me.

"I didn't sleep that month. I didn't sleep for 25 days. I didn't sleep at all. I didn't sleep at all for 25 days."

Still it's a massive over exaggeration coming from a guy that doesn't seem to do it, so I still stand by what I previously wrote..
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so wait a second, we just gonna dismiss everything he says because he has a weird diet?
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Originally Posted By wrastler163⏩
cliffs? Don't have 28 minutes to watch this guy
Did anyone get to cliffing this? @ work no audio
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Originally Posted By jeshelton⏩
Did anyone get to cliffing this? @ work no audio
- jordan says he's not expert in diets
- talks about some stuff that worked for him
- miscers lose their minds and question their existence
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Originally Posted By Jax05⏩
- jordan says he's not expert in diets
- talks about some stuff that worked for him
- miscers lose their minds and question their existence
Repped.

Elon derails entire auto industry with one Joe Rogan podcast, guess this is the end of Peterson's career too.

Peterson's jacked too, must be all the lobsters discusses and eats.
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Originally Posted By metafour⏩
The carnivore diet is legit. The reason why you think that he is being "crazy" here is because you have been conditioned to believe a lie that is installed to make you sick. Your mental state is absolutely affected by your diet, so why would you be so shocked to learn that eating a completely unnatural diet loaded in grains and carbs with minimal animal fats (the "bad ones" that your body actually needs) probably has something to do with the out of nowhere meteoric rise in mental health problems that have been observed in the past ~50 or whatever years?
Average life expectancy has skyrocketed in the last 50 years....
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Fukin hell you sound like a 4chan rotter. Upset because you can't find someone who agrees with you 110%.

So what if he said some stupid chit about a diet, he says many brilliant things.
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He repeatedly makes it clear it is just his own experience, and not recommending everyone go out and do it lol. Wtf you expect him to believe after his daughter (who had crippling autoimmune disorders and depression) is now 99% better after switching diets?

And we don't know **** about the human diet. They literally flipped the food pyramid a few years back lol. The only people who have a stake in "food science" marketing are the people who want you to buy the foods that are **** for you.
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He prefaces the entire thing with “I am not a dietary expert, I am now speaking as an un-informed citizen”, what’s wrong with it OP you ****boi??

Humans are primarily carnivores, only eat other stuff when meat isn’t available, fuk off u veggie cucks
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He eats that way cause of his auto immune disorder. i know a few people that eat a certain way cause of auto immune. Hes still very level headed.
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lol at this thread

he clearly said he was a dietician, and just explained what worked for him, people literally going full potato
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Isn’t it also interesting how I remember recently reading a peer reviewed study that showed absolutely no observable benefits from multi vitamins? Yet it’s a billion dollar industry.

I personally lean meat as a priority and add some veggies in for safety. Meat is what predators eat, humans are predators. Predators don’t eat soy. OP likes soy, therefore some simple math tell us OP is a *******
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Dude is completely whacked. Only people who listen to him havent read Maps of Meaning. The man is literally crazy.

He even said as much in the JRE interview when he talked about drinking cider and not sleeping for 25 days. Strong role model. Totally sane and undisturbed individual.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
He seems to be just sharing his experiences in controlling his auto-immune disease (his daughter has the same issues).

What specifically do you have a problem with? I don't think he claims to be a nutritional expert, he says that repeatedly.
This.

He repeatedly admits not being an expert and does not ask anyone even try this, he's just giving his account of it.

LOL @ soy OP, who has always despised Peterson for exposing SJW lunatics he worships, and pretending to have formerly been a fan and using this to try and discredit JP.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Average life expectancy has skyrocketed in the last 50 years....
Average life expectancy has only "skyrocketed" because we have virtually eliminated infant mortality which is what actually skewed the statistics in the first place. The average life expectancy was lower not because everyone was dying at 50-60 years old, it was lower because infant deaths drastically lowered the "average". This is another common myth (or more specifically, its a case of misrepresenting the statistics) that you are told to make you believe that we are somehow "healthier" today despite the fact that virtually every cancer, autoimmune disorder, mental disorder, etc. is higher than ever before.
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People who criticize Jordan Peterson itt didn't even watch the video. ****ing ridiculous. I think I have yet to see a single decent criticism of what Peterson has written or said. Every critique is based on cherry picking quotes, take them out of context, or simply ridiculous straw men. Are people too ****ing lazy to read/watch what he says? Too stupid to understand it? Or just dishonest and all emotional because they don't like what he says?
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