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post 1564396481 10-23-2018, 06:21 AM
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Im honored that people think doctors can fix anything, and there if we dont it must be a bad doctor but some people are too jacked up to fix. And people should keep that in mind for themselves and take care of their body.
post 1564397101 10-23-2018, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted By dizzin9
You got to ask yourself now

But at what cost?
And that is why no-one will remember your name... *insert Alpha Achilles pic*


Most men on the face of this earth will be born and die while never achieving half of the fame and glory Ronnie "light weight baby" Coleman has... To some leaving their mark in the history books...albeit this one is the bodybuilding history book... is far more important than living a boring , tame, safe life.. which might I add could end tomorrow at a moments notice while most of us are forgotten.... Dude gave it everything he had to reach the top... this is the price he has to pay for that glory. I am willing to bet he wouldn't change $hit
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post 1564398031 10-23-2018, 06:46 AM
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What surgeries did he have? Honestly if he had a bad surgeon it could very well be the case, tho it’s still the weights that caused him to need the surgery, but if he’s worse off after surgery then fok
ok
post 1564398711 10-23-2018, 06:55 AM
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Don't do steroids kids.
post 1564398781 10-23-2018, 06:55 AM
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I'm telling ya'll.........


stop with the deadlifts. all it takes is simple mistakes in your form.... and you ruin your back. A LOT OF PEOPLE are doing them incorrectly and don't even know it yet. you guys are destroying your spines and don't know it yet because you are young and can abuse your body.


you don't have any nerves in your spinal discs. and all that constant unnatural weight on your spine crushes your spinal discs every single time you do it, and you will start to weaken them and can even get a degenerative condition in your spinal discs...... you could be chugging along thinking everything is fine until the fateful day comes and pop...... now your discs are bulging, injured, etc......




it's just too risky a lift IMO. your spine is worth it's weight in gold.
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post 1564398941 10-23-2018, 06:59 AM
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I feel like untouchable now on this forum...
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post 1564399351 10-23-2018, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted By northernlights7
So you don't think that benching 500, squatting 800, and deadling 800-900, and leg pressing 2,300 for ~30 years had anything to do with his severe joint/back issues? lmao.

Look, I like lifting as much as most on this forum. And I enjoy lifting heavy weights, too. But you are straight up delusional if you don't think we'll all eventually suffer some consequences by lifting heavy ass weights for 20-30 years, especially without making some signficant adjustments to how we do it as we age. Ronnie was among the absolute GOAT ever and I respect what he accomplished in lifting, but let's be real about all this. Anyone who does any physical activity that rigorously for decades will eventually see some significant wear and tear on their bodies for it.
the spinal discs in your spine, the fibers can weaken and weaken over time due to excess strain. they become degenerative..... you can get away with this when you're young...... becaue there are no nerve endings in your spinal discs, you don't feel whats happening..... so it's a silent killer. you get no warning that you're destroying your back little by little..... until 15-30 years from now, you've weakened the fibers so badly, through extreme loads of compression...... that now you're screwed.


i see people doing deadlifts and i shake my head. they don't know the damage they are doing to their spines. i know what back pain is like.... i've seen strong, tough military men, tough guys, fall to the knees, tears falling from their eyes in silent pain, unable to even move an inch, due to severe back pain. all you need to do is have bad form, and boom, you ruin your back. its such a risky thing to do

no way in hell i'm going out like that. it's better to exercise safely and lift weights in a safe manner.
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post 1564399421 10-23-2018, 07:06 AM
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Celltech did this to his body... should rape Muscletech in court.
post 1564399811 10-23-2018, 07:11 AM
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Gary Coleman definitely never walking again.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
post 1564400821 10-23-2018, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
i see people doing deadlifts and i shake my head. they don't know the damage they are doing to their spines. i know what back pain is like.... i've seen strong, tough military men, tough guys, fall to the knees, tears falling from their eyes in silent pain, unable to even move an inch, due to severe back pain.

no way in hell i'm going out like that. it's better to exercise safely and lift weights in a safe manner.
I don't get how ppl get injured with DL...I feel it in my hamstrings mostly, never had back pain. Squats are what **** people up, back,knees and shoulders all in 1 recipe lol
post 1564400901 10-23-2018, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted By BustaCapp
I've seen at least 2 guys I've known from the gym end up crippled srs.
Tell us more srs

There was this one teched out old guy in his 60s with a walking stick that hobbled around the gym i use to go to. He loaded up 8+ plates on chest supported tbar rows and use to do half reps but still trained hard. Saw him on his knees leaning in a bench one day almost unable to breath too.

Probably had a stroke by now or something srs
post 1564401071 10-23-2018, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
the spinal discs in your spine, the fibers can weaken and weaken over time due to excess strain. they become degenerative..... you can get away with this when you're young...... becaue there are no nerve endings in your spinal discs, you don't feel whats happening..... so it's a silent killer. you get no warning that you're destroying your back little by little..... until 15-30 years from now, you've weakened the fibers so badly, through extreme loads of compression...... that now you're screwed.


i see people doing deadlifts and i shake my head. they don't know the damage they are doing to their spines. i know what back pain is like.... i've seen strong, tough military men, tough guys, fall to the knees, tears falling from their eyes in silent pain, unable to even move an inch, due to severe back pain.

no way in hell i'm going out like that. it's better to exercise safely and lift weights in a safe manner.
Lex Luger is another example


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post 1564401791 10-23-2018, 07:43 AM
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but he had aesthetics
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post 1564402971 10-23-2018, 08:03 AM
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He’s the king of bodybuilding. Worth it in my opinion.
Bench: 115 x 1
Squat: 95 x 2
Deadlift: 135 x 2

Doesn't even lift makes fun of people on bodybuilding site crew.
Informs you that your PR doesn't count due to "bad form" crew.
post 1564403131 10-23-2018, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted By PKneyr
I don't get how ppl get injured with DL...I feel it in my hamstrings mostly, never had back pain. Squats are what **** people up, back,knees and shoulders all in 1 recipe lol
because a lot of people have bad form. thats all it takes to turn deadlifts into a spine destroyer
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post 1564403911 10-23-2018, 08:20 AM
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would he have been a world record powerlifter if he attempted? given how much weight he was pulling as a BB
post 1564404351 10-23-2018, 08:27 AM
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damn poor dude. Hope he gets better ronnie is one of the GOATs
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post 1564404821 10-23-2018, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted By MajorTendonitis
In 20 years they will probably think the way we do surgery now is barbaric.

Watched the end again , and he has 2 million dollars into surgeries . Wtf
No way he spent $2M out of pocket for those procedures
post 1564404951 10-23-2018, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted By thorpowers
Yup. We're all gonna die one day. This guy became the most successful man in his profession and one of the greatest of all times. Id say it was worth it. Better than your average American man who does a 9-5 for 50 years, gets 2 divorces, gets fat and can barely walk up stairs without getting winded or do anything with their body by 40 anyways
Would you want to trade places with him? The guy has had like 8 back surgeries and a double hip replacement. Who knows what else.
post 1564405121 10-23-2018, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted By northernlights7
Cutler is also 45 now, 9 years younger than Ronnie. Let's not forget that Ronnie's real issues didn't start until he was in his 50's. I don't know what Cutler has been up to since his Olympia days, but if he is still trying to carry that ridiculous amount of mass into his 50's, he'll eventually have some issues too.
I think Cutler has switched more to higher rep training, and cardiovascular workouts.
post 1564405191 10-23-2018, 08:37 AM
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Cliffs over time:
Surgeries were done improperly by a less than good Doc plus the general wear and tear of oids and lifting. Screws were too long or too short and messed him up.
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post 1564405391 10-23-2018, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted By Thebunz
He’s the king of bodybuilding. Worth it in my opinion.
Lee Haney is in his 60s I believe, and he's walking around pain free.
post 1564405441 10-23-2018, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted By devin45k
Lex Luger is another example


Lex Luger is in a wheelchair because of a stroke from drug abuse
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post 1564405501 10-23-2018, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Cliffs over time:
Surgeries were done improperly by a less than good Doc plus the general wear and tear of oids and lifting. Screws were too long or too short and messed him up.
I wouldn't blame the doctor, he's probably using the best that money can buy.
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Originally Posted By mp83
Lex Luger is in a wheelchair because of a stroke from drug abuse
On October 19, 2007, Luger suffered a nerve impingement in his neck that led to temporary paralysis. He underwent intravenous antibiotic treatment and was expected to make a full recovery. Nearly a month after his spinal stroke, Luger was still in a quadriplegic state, having no movement in either his arms or legs. In June 2008, Luger was said to be able to stand on his own for short periods of time and walk using a walker. In 2010, Luger stated in an interview that he was able to walk more comfortably, and was now able to drive.

He said it started from an intense neck workout and slept on it wrong on a plane. I think his crazy lifting regiment along with the other chit he was abusing lead to the chitty back problems he has had.

For fukk sakes, his finishing move was the putting heavy ass wrestlers on his back and bounce up and down.

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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus
I follwed Rich Piana... i know ronnie was a bodybuilder but never watched his videos, just knew his name.


Edit: thanks for cliffs
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only non cookie cutter bodybuilder. rest are walking cardboard cutouts
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I blame the surgeons

he was just fine, maybe had some pain before he started these surgeries

now he can't walk

can't blame that on lifting weights

buncha liberals in here
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Originally Posted By batmanman
I blame the surgeons

he was just fine, maybe had some pain before he started these surgeries

now he can't walk

can't blame that on lifting weights

buncha liberals in here
You're serious?
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This thread is a prime example of bro science being thrown around.
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