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post 1572942801 02-05-2019, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted By DaveIndeed⏩
Job boards are always full of coding positions. If you can learn to code in a language you see jobs for in your area quite a bit you're set with a middle to upper-middle class job for life if you're a decent employee.

"IT" is a pretty broad blanket and you will want to explore every realm\branch\discipline to figure out what you like the best and what jives with how you like to work. With that said I think it's a little tougher to get into since the requirements are lower for the entry positions.

A helpdesk job is the usual route but those are at best 40k a year jobs and for a career change you may not be able to take that gamble.

Instead learn linux administration or networking. Windows support is full, don't need anyone else.
Help desk where I’m at is 52-55k a year.
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That's how friend got started in IT but didn't make much at the beginning (he has a B.A. in history). The A+ is way different than it was years back and you have to re-certify iirc. Anyone on here that messes with pc's and phones can pass it with not a lot.pf studying.
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post 1572943981 02-05-2019, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted By DaveIndeed⏩
Job boards are always full of coding positions. If you can learn to code in a language you see jobs for in your area quite a bit you're set with a middle to upper-middle class job for life if you're a decent employee.

"IT" is a pretty broad blanket and you will want to explore every realm\branch\discipline to figure out what you like the best and what jives with how you like to work. With that said I think it's a little tougher to get into since the requirements are lower for the entry positions.

A helpdesk job is the usual route but those are at best 40k a year jobs and for a career change you may not be able to take that gamble.

Instead learn linux administration or networking. Windows support is full, don't need anyone else.
It takes a certain person to sit all day long writing code. There is a reason why most of them are on the spectrum.
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post 1572944191 02-05-2019, 12:06 PM
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Brah who got his A+ and landed a networking job less than a month later here

Most employers don't even look at your resume if you don't have the A+. Not saying that this cert is the best thing or anything, cause it isn't. However it encompasses so much of the basic/entry level information that employers see that cert as a base line. If you don't have it, next.

EDIT: don't start with linux administration lmao wut. Been working IT for the last two years, doing full network support and monitoring for a list of clients and never once has anybody mentioned linux. That is a very niche category.

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Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah⏩
Anyone on here that messes with pc's and phones can pass it with not a lot.pf studying.
Nah you definitely have to study. These certs are bull**** imo because they test you on stuff you will never need to know IRL. Like all the different possible RPM speeds of CD's, or the difference between northbridge/southbridge.
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So with a CS degree + 200 bucks for just the A+

Would it be good enough for a entry level IT?
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Networking = zzzzzzzzzz

Code = zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Literally so boring I can't even concentrate long enough to study for the exams srs
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
How much "experience" do I NEED for a fukn TIER 1 help desk job? For fuk sakes.

Catch 22 of peace.
We only have one tier 1 tech that was hired with no IT background. None. The reason we hired him? EXCELLENT customer service skills was the number one reason we hired him but he also showed an interest in the work since he started as an admin assistant but worked with my tier 2 tech regularly and seemed to pick up some of things he was shown very quickly. After a few weeks of hands on work with him, he started working his own tickets with little supervision and only comes to me when it's something he's never seen before. He's turning out to be one of the better hires we've made for that job so far lol!
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Originally Posted By SirFapsAIot⏩
I know these feels, I.T. is the job equivalent of watching paint dry. It has got to be one of the worst careers ever. Anyone that has taken the network + recently, what does the exam look like, what are the necessities to know when going in there?
I actually had a really good IT job when i first started years ago (before i switched fields). I basically ran a whole facility of about 300 users. I did all the printer support, phones, phone wiring, backups, imaging, repairs, recycling, destruction, engineering software packages, etc. I was a one man show and nobody screwed with me because i got stuff done. I eventually realized i was stuck and the rot'ter managers were using me ... i got no raises, no praises, and was still titled 'Desktop Support' despite doing the job of 4 people after a few years. I heard the rot'ter manager got an arse chewing for letting me leave.

The network+ was a lot of OSI, subnettting, topologies, ports, protocols, IPV4, IPV6 stuff. I'd say the OSI, ports, protocols, and subnetting are the key areas. I thought Net+ was one of the easier tests but i can see how subnetting and the OSI model can trip people up.
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Originally Posted By SirFapsAIot⏩
Ok, gotcha', yeah, for the most part those are easy to remember for the most part, anything copper/commonly used, but then you get into some of the legacy crap and the various flavors of fiber and what kind of connectors they use, speed and their varying distances, God, I hate these people so much. So much junk to remember.
Ya they definitely hit you with a few questions on fiber connectors. I think i even had a simulation question on the cat5 T658A/B wiring order. They even had some legacy coaxial stuff on the test too. Luckily I've been around computers/tech since the late 80s that all the random stuff like that is somewhat familiar to me and i can get a lot questions right just by reasoning & process of elimination.
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah⏩
Networking = zzzzzzzzzz

Code = zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Literally so boring I can't even concentrate long enough to study for the exams srs
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Was at my networking class today. We've been out of A+ only for a month, and my buddy started working with a recruiter at a staffing company last week and already found a job making $27/hr w/ no experience with only the A+.

Anyone who says that cert is worth nothing - just lol. If anyone is looking to get in the field I'd highly recommend getting it.
Is the job in the middle of a desert or possibly Antarctica?
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So I have no IT background, what do I need to take to make $40/hr?
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Originally Posted By SirFapsAIot⏩
I've had some CHOICE jobs in I.T. before, when I was fresh out of high school I used to work at the CCNP level, I'm not going to say how long ago that was, but let's just say the industry was NOT saturated and you would get paid beau-coup money for picking your nose at one of those jobs. I monitored the network for a small ISP in the north east doing the graveyard shift, it has got to be one of the best jobs I ever had, I rarely ever dealt with anyone that wasn't a network admin/engineer and then I had another job working at HQ for a recruiting company, which had the most laid back management I've ever worked with and I made a lot of dough. That chit is another world though, things have changed drastically. When they decided to consolidate I decided to pursue contacts in the entertainment business and get into that, but the dick head I ended up working with was nothing but a flimflam artist and wasted my time and time is money...so anyway, back to I.T. and I remember jack shyt, although it wouldn't matter anyway since tech moves so quickly.

We also had a NOC when I was doing work monitoring the ISP and I wired most of it and the high level configuration that needed to be done at the time was done by the two **** guys that mentored me during my time there. The high level stuff can be fun, if you consider that high level these days, but when the shyt hits the fan it can be stressful, especially when people are breathing down your neck. You say you run your own business, so I'm guessing you can handle that stuff, I was good at working under pressure, because I simply didn't give a shyt, but that's what made me good in those situations.

edit: I should add, these days I don't give a shyt about technology, I may as well be a Luddite, but it was always easy for me to understand quickly, the problem is I find it so painfully boring that it makes things difficult, if that makes any sense.
Your situation sounds a lot like mine. I liked my original IT job. I was my own boss and tech stuff just came easy to me. I switched to a different field for various life reasons and am now trying to go back to IT. My big issue right now is i just simply lack any reasonable contacts (networking opportunities) in the IT field.

I'm also conflicted on a lot of the job postings i see online. The amount of junk they have listed on the postings and the way it is listed leads me to think the HR people putting it out there don't have a clue what they're doing. I'd bet good money that those postings are causing them to get a lot of people applying that have fluffed their resume and are full of chit. At the same time, they're probably missing out on a lot of capable people that aren't fluffing their resume because they're either not applying (they feel they don't qualify), or they are applying but getting filtered out (criteria/keywords).
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I have no certs, and was a C/O before I got hired at my current job as a Systems DBA. Still have no clue why but I am still in 6 years later with 3 big promotions.
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Originally Posted By gibbypoo⏩
you must watch tv
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$27/hr.... HA!

Edit: went back and read thread... You guys need to find better companies to work for or something. Unless these wages don't include bonus structures/benefits or something else I'm missing?

Are these part time IT jobs?
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Only way that is possible is if you had prior IT experience, as in already working in the field before you got the cert.

Anyways, negged.
This was 3 years ago, I had no experience, stay mad.
Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
$27/hr.... HA!

Edit: went back and read thread... You guys need to find better companies to work for or something. Unless these wages don't include bonus structures/benefits or something else I'm missing?

Are these part time IT jobs?
This, I have 3 years of experience, and I'm at $97k before bonuses.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
This was 3 years ago, I had no experience, stay mad.



This, I have 3 years of experience, and I'm at $97k before bonuses.
What area of IT are you in?
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I've been in this industry for well over 20 years up here in Canada. I've taught IT at the university level, I've been a programmer and I am a former IT network engineer. I've worked in IT consulting as well. I'm in executive management now for IT as a CIO. I used to teach CompTIA A+ certs back when you needed it for entry level jobs. I concur, the certification is dead simple.

Having said that, the IT industry is full of certification "hoops" you have to jump through. If you combine that with experience and good social skills, you will go far. Most interviewers use those certifications as a measuring stick/gatekeeper for interviews.

When I hire, I look for a mixture of tech, ability to deal with people and the ability to logically think through and fix problems by thinking outside the box. The individual also has to work well with the existing team. If you can demonstrate that, the you will go far.

I hired a guy fresh out of school in his early 20's to work for me on a volunteer basis in a co-op education program. He worked for me for 3 months in exchange for a reference. He did a fantastic job, so he got a good reference. I then used my connections in the industry to hook him up with a good job. His first job paid 55K/year with full benefits and bonus on top. He's been promoted 3 times since then.

At the end of the day, the certification itself isn't the measure of a person. It's what that specific individual brings to the table and how they use what they learnt that makes the difference. I've also seen tons of guys that have no certifications but had the raw talent, run circles around certified individuals.

When you start off, it's tough. Most of us in IT started off with that crappy help desk job. But if you work hard and put some time in you can make some good money by moving up the ladder into senior consulting roles or moving into executive management or even IT sales. The key is to use your network of friends in the IT community to help you find out about the good jobs that are not necessarily posted. It pays to network! (pardon the pun) My 2 cents.

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Screw the people hating on A+. It's an excellent certificate that can be earned for a small amount of money, at home, and opens up a large range of entry level qualifications, not to mention self-employment opportunities.

A+ and solid people skills = never out of a job. You can go mail drop, Google Business, word of mouth... undercut all the major support players by 50%, provide better service and still earn $60k.
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IT manager here for a large multinational company.
I generally advise anyone that asks to avoid the field. I got lucky along the way meeting the right people etc but if I could do it over I'd get into engineering or something.

I dont discount people having certs. However, if you have a rudimentary understanding of technology, but can reach to work on time with a willingness to learn and good troubleshooting methodology, I'd prefer that.
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i enjoy having my experience and CCNA/E. i started out with no certs, and only got those 2 years ago. i've got 9 years in the field now.


edit: usually high paying jobs that look for people with certs with little to now experience are contracting jobs. i refuse to do contracts, i like having a grounded place of employment. A+ certs are good for getting your foot in the door these days for sure.
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Originally Posted By jdmx⏩
IT manager here for a large multinational company.
I generally advise anyone that asks to avoid the field. I got lucky along the way meeting the right people etc but if I could do it over I'd get into engineering or something.

I dont discount people having certs. However, if you have a rudimentary understanding of technology, but can reach to work on time with a willingness to learn and good troubleshooting methodology, I'd prefer that.
Why? What's so bad about IT manager for a large multinational company?
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A+ never got me anything not even entry level interview. Cert is garbage and i wasted a **** ton of time and money on it.
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What good jobs are there in IT that doesn't involve coding? I can program, but cot dam it is boring.
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
What area of IT are you in?
Every area, I work for an MSP.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Every area, I work for an MSP.
Mirin' income.

I'd be happy to hit 60k within the next 5 years lol.
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Originally Posted By MirrorsHurt⏩
A+ never got me anything not even entry level interview. Cert is garbage and i wasted a **** ton of time and money on it.
Chit ton of time and money for A+? Sounds like you did it wrong and aren't meant to do tech support. Grab a shovel and get in line with the rest of the tradies at 7/11.

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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Every area, I work for an MSP.
I do the same, it's the goat for experience but after a decade-ish it's getting old. I feel I need to grow or go in a new direction.
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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