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post 1578414011 04-19-2019, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
I'm pretty sure the guys who get stuck playing soccer at the high school level are just manlets or too uncoordinated to play a real sport like baseball, basketball, football, hockey, or lacrosse.
That's because of how much opportunity there is in other sports here in America not because it isn't a "real" sport. You would seriously call baseball a "real" sport and not soccer? lol
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they certainly got the most skill out of any sports, there's no other game as dynamic it takes unbelievable skill and anyone who's played at a certain level will know this because to reach the absolute top is nearly impossible without the talent and playing from a very early age on (I'd say no older than 7) it really takes almost a quarter life time of training to get a shot at being a pro
Originally Posted By Beararms⏩
World class stamina/cardiovascular endurance.
and this, their level of stamina is insane, endurance combined with high intensity short bursts there's no other sport like it (again because it's so dynamic)

some of the other things you mentioned surely there's athletes that train specifically for one of those aspects (eg olympians) so they're probably better at that very narrowed down aspect (an NBA player will jump higher, a sprinter will be faster on a 100m dash because they got the technique down to a T)
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Actually read some article from some supposed track and field coach that goes into pretty good depth.

He mentions sprinters dont train in the 40 yd typically within their events so surmising bolts 40 from his 100m could be foolhardy considering he had other events as well.

Basically he thinks if bolt trained for the 40 he could do sub 4 40yd dash

They have 30 meter times and he ran a 3.63 but that was using a hand clock. If you do the math you end up at 4.2 40m, but if you account for the hand measurement you get ~3.9 range

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fre...yard-dash/amp/
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Some world class athletes right there lol.
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post 1578419831 04-19-2019, 03:46 PM
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Endurance? Sure.

Lightly tap their arm and suddenly they have a broken ankle.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Lebron is a better athlete than soccer fairies. Sorry boyo
Dunking and traversing a court is so hard when you're 6'8"
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Soccer is a way more skilled based sport than American football.

Soccer involves huge amounts of co-ordination and forward thinking trying to dribble the ball down the field at pace while also trying to anticipate the movement of the opposition.

Honestly, I imagine most of the people who make fun of the sport write it off due a single bad experience and have had never had to chance to watch a proper match

American football is largely a bunch of big guys slamming into each other at high speeds and requires a lot of strength and athleticism, but much less actual skill.

Each to their own and if you're not into it then that's fine too, but don't embarrass yourself by saying that soccer players are uncoordinated and lack skill/finesse, which they actually have in abundance.
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[QUOTE=OffwhiteBrah post_id=1578401241]LMAO op comparing soccer twinks to these god like nba athletes

[youtube]LrIfS5_TyQQ[/outube][/QUOTE]Wut. Soccer players are on the same end of the ******* scale as bballers.
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
Soccer is a way more skilled based sport than American football.

Soccer involves huge amounts of co-ordination and forward thinking trying to dribble the ball down the field at pace while also trying to anticipate the movement of the opposition.

Honestly, I imagine most of the people who make fun of the sport write it off due a single bad experience and have had never had to chance to watch a proper match

American football is largely a bunch of big guys slamming into each other at high speeds and requires a lot of strength and athleticism, but much less actual skill.

Each to their own and if you're not into it then that's fine too, but don't embarrass yourself by saying that soccer players are uncoordinated and lack skill/finesse, which they actually have in abundance.
football players have way better coordination and awareness than soccer players and it isn't close lmao.
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Originally Posted By r0bo⏩
football players have way better coordination and awareness than soccer players and it isn't close lmao.
It takes an order of magnitude more skill and technicality to do what Messi does with a ball at his feet than what any top NFL player does. NFL players are obviously the more freakish athletes (though soccer players stamina is god tier, they run greater distances than any other sport), but imagine actually thinking NFL is more skillful. LMFAO.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
I'm pretty sure the guys who get stuck playing soccer at the high school level are just manlets or too uncoordinated to play a real sport like baseball, basketball, football, hockey, or lacrosse.
I played every one of these sports except Lacrosse and enjoyed soccer the most. Most of the guys with your mindset growing up were the same ones with two left feet. They get embarrassed that they can't play well so they make fun of the sport as a defense mechanism. Soccer is far and away more difficult to master than all the sports you listed. Hakeem Olajuwon started playing basketball when he was 15... it would be virtually impossible to start playing soccer at 15 and go pro.
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
You gotta draw the line at fortitude and risking injury. Those guys flop on the ground like b!tches any time they have contact.
Excessive diving is a problem yes, but the reason soccer players go down is pretty obvious if you understand the game. If you get lightly shoved in soccer while dribbling a ball at your feet (which is NOT a permitted play, unlike in NFL), chances are you will lose balance and lose possession of the ball and hand the advantage over to the opposition. So tactically in some situations it makes a lot more sense to play up the collision, go down, milk it a bit so it is noted by the referee and earn a free kick/penalty, rather than losing possession over an illegal move and then not gaining back your advantage.
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post 1578431721 04-19-2019, 07:18 PM
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post 1578431881 04-19-2019, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
It takes an order of magnitude more skill and technicality to do what Messi does with a ball at his feet than what any top NFL player does. NFL players are obviously the more freakish athletes (though soccer players stamina is god tier, they run greater distances than any other sport), but imagine actually thinking NFL is more skillful. LMFAO.
it doesn't but keep thinking that. NFL players would destroy the top soccer players in speed, agility, vertical, bench and most every metric you think of.
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Originally Posted By regl8r⏩
I played every one of these sports except Lacrosse and enjoyed soccer the most. Most of the guys with your mindset growing up were the same ones with two left feet. They get embarrassed that they can't play well so they make fun of the sport as a defense mechanism. Soccer is far and away more difficult to master than all the sports you listed. Hakeem Olajuwon started playing basketball when he was 15... it would be virtually impossible to start playing soccer at 15 and go pro.
No, any idiot can play soccer at a high level. 99.9 percent of the population could never play center in the NBA because one of the prerequisites is to be seven feet tall.

So yes, if you are seven feet tall you can play in the NBA starting from a late age, but to do so your genetic makeup has to include an extremely rare disorder known as gigantism. Then you can stand under the basket and just block everyone's shots and grab all the rebounds. No, you won't need much athletic ability to do that, you just need to be born a god among men to qualify.
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post 1578432261 04-19-2019, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted By r0bo⏩
it doesn't but keep thinking that. NFL players would destroy the top soccer players in speed, agility, vertical, bench and most every metric you think of.
So purely physical strength and power based attributes. Cool story bro. We're talking about skill and technicality, which a bunch of roiding meatheads colliding into each and competing to give each other the most CTE aren't even in the same planet as soccer players are.

People will look to soccer players like Messi or tennis players like Federer for examples of pure sporting magic. No one has ever looked at an NFL player and thought that. Ever.
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post 1578432421 04-19-2019, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
So purely physical strength and power based attributes. Cool story bro. We're talking about skill and technicality, which a bunch of roiding meatheads colliding into each and competing to give each other the most CTE aren't even in the same planet as soccer players are.

People will look to soccer players like Messi or tennis players like Federer for examples of pure sporting magic. No one has ever looked at an NFL player and thought that. Ever.
lol you're saying the best athletes which would never include soccer players because they're not special physically. nfl playbooks make soccer look like a game for down syndrome mongoloids.
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Originally Posted By r0bo⏩
lol you're saying the best athletes which would never include soccer players because they're not special physically. nfl playbooks make soccer look like a game for down syndrome mongoloids.
I literally said that NFL are the more freakish athletes, but soccer players are infinitely more skillful. Do NFL fans get CTE too?
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Originally Posted By isingmodel⏩
I literally said that NFL are the more freakish athletes, but soccer players are infinitely more skillful. Do NFL fans get CTE too?
I said the playbooks and skill set of nfl players is higher than soccer players? So you're agreeing that other athletes are better? keep up pal
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It's easy to be a soccer player. It's pretty tough to be a competitive runner though. Both long distance & sprinting...
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Poverty ball is pretty spot on. When you dont have a Playstation 4 or galaxy foldable to wank away half the day away to you go play soccer with your friends after school. In cristiano's case he would go home, eat for a few minutes and go play soccer all day.

There's a video on YouTube that shows how automatic his movements are in regards to dribbling as well as showing him making goals from midfield. Hard work.

Most pros have to have started playing soccer at a youngue age just because of the skill gap involved in the game. This is why Messi can be be shorter than cristiano but still wreck because it's more about training and skill than anything else.

Pretty sure basketball and football require genetic freaks more than actual skilled players. Combine skill and genetics and you get once in a blue moon freaks like Micheal, lebron, etc.
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I think so soccer is a very tough sport in b4 gifs of players diving. I wish I could get that stuff out of the game, but it will always happen. Basketball is way easier...Soccer brb running 100 yards nonstop no timeouts.

I also think hockey is very hard. I tried when I was younger but i sucked lol I was able to admit myself to that like nope not for me, but I love watching hockey. Played soccer in high school won state I still play on weekends and an indoor league.
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Best athletes in the world yet they play the game at 50% physical effort. Trot. Dribble. Pass...Trot. Dribble. Pass...Trot. Dribble. Pass...FLOP.

Hockey players, boxers, football players go 100% effort. Even baseball players get reemed out if they fail to hustle out a ground ball. Maybe it's more of the American mentality of competing, but that's the mentality what wins USA gold at the end.
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Originally Posted By HaiMeesk⏩
Best athletes in the world yet they play the game at 50% physical effort. Trot. Dribble. Pass...Trot. Dribble. Pass...Trot. Dribble. Pass...FLOP.

Hockey players, boxers, football players go 100% effort. Even baseball players get reemed out if they fail to hustle out a ground ball. Maybe it's more of the American mentality of competing, but that's the mentality what wins USA gold at the end.
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Idk about the people mentioning combat sports, they are definitely tough and skilled but I doubt the majority of them could run a sub 4.5 40 or jump 40 inches. Sure some freaks like Gervonta Davis or Tyron Woodleycouldbut does anyone really see high level fighters like GGG, Mikey Garcia, Canelo, or Kelvin gastelum hitting those numbers?

I used to box and I would continuously finish in the top in athletic tests like sprinting or benching but would routinely get tooled up in sparring.
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Nah martial artists are in my opinion. They live a very long life and they can kick most people's asses.
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the sport for 3rd world manlet, lmao

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