you forgot the fact you have two arms and two legs.

Beta Buxx

I want to be loved for who I am, not what I can provide. Is that too much to ask?

and the requirements for women:

- be nice
- don't be fat

The other day I was thinking about when I was 18, I thought I would never have a girlfriend and never have sex.

2 years later I got in shape and banged a ton of sloots.

Last year, I thought I would never find a girl that I actually truly liked and would never get married.

Now this year, I met a girl that I love.

All comes full circle

Not that I agree with EOD about anything since I existed in 2011, but I recently found out that Tinder launched in 2012. The tactic of lots of guys on Tinder has always been to swipe right for everything without looking and see what comes back. So pretty much every woman on there is constantly matching with 8s and 9s. Perhaps they now think this is their league.

Of course this is all dispelled when you go outside, meet people in real life and constantly see the most average of Mr Averages in happy, loving relationships. I'm just trying to point out why 2012 might appear in a way to be significant as opposed to 2008 or 2015 or some chit lol.

Having said that, Tinder absolutely did change the game with regards to online dating since before that it was seen largely as the domain of the unusual. Tinder seemed to make it a lot more mainstream-acceptable. I suppose if you're not very social, don't go out loads or know plenty of people and online dating is the only way you ever meet women it could appear a certain way since you don't realise that society at large is a different beast. So it's not insane as such; just incorrect. Bear in mind that most incels tend not to be the most social creatures so online trends can be mistaken for real life.

This brings me to the wider point as it relates to the OP. People whose entire interactions are either work or online can easily think that what they see online is how society exists. So, when they go on these incel forums, they haven't got things like reality (lol) to dispel what the other incels (who also don't engage with reality) tell them. Maybe some go into these communities as cool people who, for whatever reason, are not so lucky with things like dating and just need a little guidance or a pick me up or some encouragement. They then get a complete bombardment of b*llocks and come out the other end as delusional, women-hating *******s who now have no hope at all.

Like OP, I made the mistake of checking out a couple of those boards just out of morbid curiosity. I can see how they can take an already-depressed or un-confident young person and mess with their heads. It seemed like any time anybody ever tried to make a post that suggested that anybody on there might have a shot at having getting into a loving relationship with a lovely girl one day they'd be shot down and called a coping cuck or whatever. Any post that suggested that women in general were any other than vapid whores who only care for male model-looking Chads was jumped on like a Trump supporter at an ANTIFA rally. Place is weird, toxic and dark af. Very sad to see, actually.

To anybody tempted to go down that road, I'd encourage them to immediately stop taking notice of incel boards and the like. Nothing good can come of it. You won't become enlightened since the guff you'll be reading has little to no basis in real life and is only regurgitated at you by other people whose views came to be as a result of not knowing people in real life or even going outside much.

Who do you want to be? The person with hope for future happiness in their life or the type of person who calls anybody who has hope of happiness a "blue-pilled cuck" and tries to drag them into the abyss of misery with them? If you choose the latter then I can no longer feel sorry for you and you can suck a dick. Choose the former and I'll consider you to be someone who can use some help and I'll do what I can.

My answer for both of you:


Males as providers and females as more selective is literally traits of human evolution. This will never change and is fixed and static.

If you are male, you will provide, you will strive for status and you will compete with other men. Forever. It has been established for well over 200 years in the scientific literature.

What you are is literally what you can provide for survival. A woman doesn't see anything beyond that. Neither does a man for a woman. This won't change because food is as easy as walking to nearest Walmart to get, because affordability and social hierarchies exist just as much they existed before.

Women on the other hand will tend to be a carer and literally care about fixing up things in the most optimal way possible for offspring. Forever. They will be biologically driven to deliver children and men will be biologically driven to give them children and bring resources. You can't fight brain chemistry that is literally encoded to be like this in your DNA.

Look at the result of putting women where they don't belong - not pretty. Always defaults back to where it is. Always will.

Accept this and try your best. Your heritage depends on it. Dead serious.


Or you can always, you know, be a petty troll like GMiscer do a few threads about not contributing to society etc and then get sick of it and come out with a true thread that you are alone and suicidal.

Well to be fair your statement was that you either have transactionnal sex or lustfull sex.

You disregard transactionnal sex as being beta bux and not unconditionnal love which leaves you with lustfull sex which is not love either but an ego thing.

If you truly seek after love, there is the love of God which is unconditional and infinite and at a human level there is also friendship which is a form of love and to some extent unconditionnal but finite.

You will have very few real friends in life but there are the person who will not judge but confort and that you can call any day, any time. Their love is not based on your looks, it is not based on your wealth, it is based on your very person. I have some friends like that who have invited me even when I was depressed and not the best company, that's love so I experience it even if I have my hardship regarding romantic life. You can too.

You mistaken love with emotions and/or lust.

Now, my comment is not an attack toward yourself. I too would like to be deem as desirable as it is a great boost of self esteem and ego, a mark of validation. That's not love however or at least being strictly an object of lust is not love, it is lust.

If one wants to be fully honest, love can also be found even as someone who struggle with relationship with the opposite sex since it is not restricted to romance/relationship : "Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one's life for one's friends". Even if you are not into religion and seek the meaning of Love, you know that friendship is a form of love and bond of friendship are not looks dependent and hence can be achieved by anyone.

It is ok to want other things or a different form of love but the point is you can be love for who you are even as the most ugly person.

most of these retards just have mental health issues. so yea it is a problem with society, we breed mentally ****ed people and it shows with these weird ass virgin forums.

Getting money

incel sites are literally only for entertainment. They are the most pure black hole on the internet...where any offers for help or advice vanish into nothingness and are only met with resistance and hate.

Those guys are incapable of trusting anyone or making any strides to better themselves.

Those men are getting transactional sex.

Look into two things: stoicism and extreme ownership. They kind of go hand in hand.

You need to take responsibility for what you have control over and stop blaming others. You're in control of your outcomes.

You, right now, are the sum of every action/decision you've ever made up until this point. And going forward you can change that.

Those guys the vast majority of them are in sexless relationships.

The choice between a sexless wife and kids and a life alone for most men is easy. They'd rather be alone.

Men need to feel desired sexually to be fulfilled in a LTR.

Just having a family unit where the only time she wants sex is during ovulation is hell on Earth.

Pretty much this

Adopt an animal (dog) from a local shelter.

Visit more National Parks.

Go Outside more.

There are forums other than this one where loser guys get together and talk about being losers? wtf?

I have never understood this Incel chit, I mean you have to be REALLY ugly and EXTREMELY autistic to not get any poosay. There are plenty of women ready to smash and dash and some other ready to date.

I always thought that this chit was a Misc exaggeration. Because I know some ugly, short, dad bod dudes that are still getting laid, maybe not the finest women but poosay is poosay.

Unless of course, you only wanna fuark 8s and above... that is pron brainwash.

Not all of us can afford dat dere

You have done nothing but attack me and ignore the facts posted. I will list the facts again so you might actually understand it this time.

- I have made a small percentage of incel/FA threads this year, compared to the dozens posted here per week.
- I rarely if ever attack anyone on here. Only things i will say is cold approaching is retarded. I rarely quote people's posts to attack them. Again look at the history.
-Things did change in 2012.

The fact that male incels basically doubled since 2012 is enough proof of this, but i can post more. Many things changed in 2012 and there are studies and statistics that prove this.

https://www.google.com/search?q=ince...fQ168qzONBHfM:

But anyways i am not going to argue anymore itt. You just keep attacking me and ignoring the proof. inb4 the truth is ignored again like there is literally nothing is happening, men just choose not to get laid lmao

lol not true. women have way more requirements than men

having a car is a big one

vast majority of men just want a girl that's not fat. and is not a bitch. that's literally it.

while women are looking at everything, is he white, does he have a car, what does he do for work, is he smart, is he confident, does he have his own place. but even just being white is good enough for a lot of girls for getting laid. my white coworkers brag about it all the time, just walking around asia and they **** like 3 different girls a day coming up to them randomly. whilst my multiple 3-week long trips to asia, tinder every night, trying out different apps, outside 24/7, talking to randoms, brb ain't got **** lol, went for an escort.

Well that’s what I meant. You have to be both ugly and autistic AF to be an incel. Its’s not that hard to get laid nowadays. This forum is like the twilight zone LOL

Only if you're a weak-minded person, brah.

absolutely

met my wife when I looked like complete trash, but I had the personality of an attractive person and got the prize

still not that great looking, but my personality/sense of humor has my wife on guard with all our female friends


if I can do it, anyone can do it

yeah i ****ed that one up lmao whatever

They are not incorrect about many things like facial structure, race and location theory, moneymaxxing, however it's the lost hope that I don't agree with.

Use the red pill and leverage it to your advantage.

he can get laid, but wont get the same quality sex an attractive guy gets.

The whole incel thing is just a bunch of victim mentality *******s who need to go to the gym, get some sunshine, eat healthier food, get a job, and basically stop going around telling people how out-of-touch they are with reality.