Proves my point

Women rate every guy that isn't an 8/10 below average

& A lot of guys will assume they are above average. You aren't though.

Looks play a huge role in opening the door. But men can say and do **** that ruin attraction.

Men are more desperate and forgiving with women. It’s why most look past the red flags.

Women want stability, passion and focused men long term. Not sure why that’s a surprise or anything. No girl wants a man just focused on lazy hobbies. It’s why gamers get a bad rep. It’s why gymcels wrongly get a bad rep. Look good, but be driven in life and it’s women on easy mode. Literally do the bare minimum hygiene wise and you don’t even need abs. Have substance and clean teeth/scruff/ shaven and you’ll be set. Most men are just so low on the self care bar they turn women off.

Women aren’t hard and they don’t want much. Sure, they play games, but so do us guys.

Thats a defeatist mentality.

Guess what? The vast majority of men like shapely butts and big t!ts. MOST women dont have that. Guess what? Men will still go out with them.

You need to go out in the real world and see that most men and women arent hooking up with ideal versions of the opposite sex. Your brain is skewed because youre fixated on stuff you see or read online, which is not reality.

1. EOD did not say he was above average, he made no mention about his looks

2. This is what you wrote "I'd place him about a 4.5-5.2 to be nice" = average

3. What he said was re: men's looks and women's looks...relatively speaking


So I guess I have to add 1) highIQ 2) openmindedness 3) not lazy...now 4) adequate comprehension

Think it's you with the comprehension problem, here you just said = average.

Here is EOD

Women rate every guy that isn't an 8/10 below average

BELOW average.

1. You inferred that he was rating himself an 8/10 via his post. I would like his feedback to prove that you read that statement incorrectly.

2. to be nice is relatively a moot point. Ok fine...he is 2/10 then. Doesn't change his point. You aren't looking at the bigger picture as EOD and I are.

3. No I did not mean generally...lemme google...


relative - .
considered in relation or in proportion to something else.
"the relative effectiveness of the various mechanisms is not known"

(hence the average variance in women's looks in relation or proportion to men's looks in the dating pool)

general -
affecting or concerning all or most people, places, or things; widespread.
"books of general interest"

(not concerned about teens, senior citizens, aborigines, etc. so NOT general)

I rate my current self a 7. In my prime I was around an 8. You still dont have an avi. I can put my face through a looks rating app and get a higher rating than you or the other chick posting itt srs

Must be cute regurgitating everything you hear on the internet

Delusional.

Bro, youre an insecure marine degenerate.

Youre like lowest on the totem pole, your personality was formed amongst the worst degenerates of society. Essentially formed like a brainwashed slave of retardations.

You look goofy, pasty weird, and your symmetry is all fuked up.

Youre not attractive by any means. Your upper lip looks like the outer layer you peel off round baloney slices. Super thin and unkissable and crooked. Your nose is more like a fat shnoz, your eyes look downy and have a dented chin area. not to make you too rudely self aware... no offense.

I mean youre a typical average Joe but average joes aren't considered attractive.

Basicness is not cute.

And since guys dont have a vagina or androgynous features to call "cute" then you are nothing if you are not extraordinary.

Feels good to be decent looking, in great shape, with great hobbies.

My life is good.

Lmao calling yourself a 7 would be like me calling myself a 10 I don't do it & bump myself up I give my own self an honest rating, why should you bump yourself. Proves my point a lot of guys thinking they are a few points above what they actually are in reality. Also please do not try commenting on someone you never seen, thinking you are better that's laughable.

Sociologists from NYU combed through data using the Panel Study of Income Dynamics (PSID) -- which has collected information on the same 4,500 families since 1968.

For the study, researchers analyzed data from 1986 -- the first year height was recorded -- through 2011 to determine if a man's height affected relationship dynamics. Men were classified as short (less than 66” in 1986; less than 67” in 2009), average, or tall (more than 73” in 1986; more than 74” in 2009).

Researchers also measured income, education and the height difference between spouses once the men were actually married. For example, in 1986, 92.7 percent of men were taller than their spouses; in 2009, 92.2 percent were taller.

From the data, researchers found major differences in relationship patterns between short and tall men.

Love lives of short men:

Short men were found to marry later in life than average or tall men, but were 32 percent less likely to divorce. They were also more likely to marry less educated and younger women. Once married, they did less of the housework and earned a much higher income than their spouse.

Why? The researchers hypothesize that because height is related to masculinity, short men may use other aspects of the relationship -- income, housework -- to demonstrate their manliness. "Short men may exchange their breadwinner status for less housework ... because a lower share of housework or a higher share of relative earnings allow short men to enact traditional gender ideals, thereby performing their masculinity in the absence of symbolic anthropomorphic differences," the researchers write in the paper.

Love lives of tall men:

Tall men were found to marry sooner in life, but were more at risk for divorce later on, as shorter men had more stable marriages. However, researchers note that the link between short men and stable marriages could be because they chose to marry later (or didn't have the option until later).

Tall men were also more likely to marry women closer to their age, and who were better-educated.

Why? "From the perspective of relationship exchange models, this indicates that the tallest men exchange their attractive attribute (height) for better-educated spouses, while short men are unable to do so," the researchers write.

It should be noted that this data suggests a trend which occurred from 1986 to 2011, and of course does not apply to all couples. However, it does shed light on an interesting topic.

Are u high?

All people talk about in the misc is how looks are the most important thing

not sure if srs. strong life goals.

That's due to focal lense distortion. Strong understanding of how cameras work.

https://i.imgur.com/aNqHeCn.mp4

I'd give eod a 5/10

lol @ 7/10

Yawn...as usual I'm right. Honestly all my posts should be stickied, archived & forwarded to the Library of Congress for study by future generations.

He confirmed my reading of his post that he wasn't implying he was an 8....so if his self-rating is roughly correct (remember there will be some deviation +/- in the rating)...he was correct about himself. 6.2 is purty darn close to 7.0.

I guess we'll see...also he didn't post his best pic I'm sure...it looks like a selfie. So that may account for a lower rating (would a female do the same no makeup/passport angle? hellz no!)

Even the men are giving the same rating as a woman. But it's just women ? Lol

Btw a man can overcome a height thing as long as he is good enough. Most women are short anyway.

In my experience, this seems like the modern attraction/dating in this day and age"


1) Face and height conquers all. I know this isn't what people want to hear. But it's the truth. Being white, tall and having a good face beats everything else and will always make you attractive to women and "boyfriend" material. Even if you had a **** job, or no ambition women will still be attracted to you. I know guys who slay or have girlfriends who are like this. Yes strong anecdotal evidence but it's true. That's life. Just like how a hot girl will be looked after her entire life. But these dudes can have no ambition, career etc and will always have women interested to be their gf (Srs)




2) The relationship guy - This is where i see a lot of people say "My 5 ft 2 deformed indian friend has a hot girlfriend" . I know a tonne of guys i know who are not tall and attractive. They are asian, white, indian etc, however they do make an effort in their appearance so i guess most would be a 6/10. They all have steady jobs, friends etc. Pretty much the average guy. Some are not physically attractive. Some are even fat. But all of them have decent girlfriends you know why - because they do everything for them and treat them like queens. Take all their instagram photos, shower them in love, gifts, treat them like gods. I mean which girl wouldn't want a guy like this? Despite what the misc says "being alpha, don't give them your validation, purpose etc" at the same time - the girl may cheat but if she is getting treated so WELL then why would she want to leave for the time being. I mean she might get bored or leave later but it's like a free ride in her twenties, imagine having a servant and a constant validation/love /gifts/support.





3) Then you have the chad-lites - these are the guys who may or may not be in a relationship, slay occasionally, they be be short, or tall , above average looking but not top tier status that every girl is throwing themselves at them. They are kinda stuck between that relationship guy and that top tier guy. Most men who "looksmax" fall into this category, and because they are not top tier, then their ambition, job and social life probably need to make up the rest of the attraction.


4) All other incels/uglies - then you have the rest of men who never workout, can't even speak to women, nothing going for them.

You were wrong, he felt insulted by my honest rating everyone else agrees with, calling it below average, you read it as average rating yourself. Then proceeded to state he never spoke of looks, 7 is above average rating, not everyone is a 6 + average is about 4.5-5. Above average, equals better than the majority of people. Point me where you are right in your comprehension you spoke of earlier.

Also, please tell me how you think he is above average, and where he rates to the other guys who posted in these threads such as type, king etc. ? Can't see Kings face but you can clearly see type. This guy is putting himself pretty close to that. Lol if this is the case I need to go around bumping myself.

Women don't care that much about if your 'shredded'. Not enough to make any sacrifices to maintain being shredded. Furthermore the older you get the more important wealth will be.


I've tried to pass on advice to younger miscers. Defeatist attitudes and incel shut ins think they know it all. And all hope is lost because they weren't born a 6'4 slayer.





Oh well, I'm bout to be getting my dick wet in about 51 minutes when my girl gets off of work anyway. Have fun fapping boyo's.

Lmao repped

So happy my sex drive is falling off of a cliff recently. I'm going to keep up the self-improvement but no longer have any expectation or hope that it will improve dating prospects. Fuk it

Some measure of stability seems important, but I'm not sure how important wealth becomes until you reach elite tier. Like being in the top 10% for your age group doesn't seem to really matter that much. But pulling like 350k+/yr with some passive income and assets to allow for instagram friendly lifestyle starts to matter.

Regardless of misc e-statting, the vast majority of people don't even pull 75k. Thats top 20% for a 30 year old.

I tried finasteride for like a week and a half. So yeah, essentially.

feels good being above it all, feels good being asexual

It really doesn't. Feels pointless.

A theist will say that about an atheist, but the atheist knows better