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03-22-2020, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Serenadium⏩
Fair, but the tone of the letters are so condescending that they're just going to promote squatting (assuming the tenants can't pay) in an effort to rebel against the complex.Do you think it is fair?
Really what they're trying to do is get them to pay before the govt enacts some sort of rent forgiveness mandate. They definitely could have spun the letters a different way (let us help you, you're our #1 priority, etc etc)
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Originally Posted By GixxerSixxer⏩
They’re obviously not real you potatoFair, but the tone of the letters are so condescending that they're just going to promote squatting (assuming the tenants can't pay) in an effort to rebel against the complex.
Really what they're trying to do is get them to pay before the govt enacts some sort of rent forgiveness mandate. They definitely could have spun the letters a different way (let us help you, you're our #1 priority, etc etc)
Really what they're trying to do is get them to pay before the govt enacts some sort of rent forgiveness mandate. They definitely could have spun the letters a different way (let us help you, you're our #1 priority, etc etc)
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03-22-2020, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Frank
I don’t know my tenants employment situation.As a landlord myself, what good does evicting sometime right now do? Who in their right mind is looking for a new rental place now besides those that were evicted from other places.
I might have to eat the costs or most of the costs for a few months. I look at our situation and her situation and it feels like the right thing to do given the circumstances.
I'd rather have someone in there taking care of the place and at least paying utilities rather than it sitting vacant.
I might have to eat the costs or most of the costs for a few months. I look at our situation and her situation and it feels like the right thing to do given the circumstances.
I'd rather have someone in there taking care of the place and at least paying utilities rather than it sitting vacant.
But I’m happy to ‘work something out’.
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03-22-2020, 04:13 PM
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In the UK they already announced a payment fix to protect tenants, without damaging anyone, and not stopping the banks.
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03-22-2020, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted By induced_drag⏩
not surprised that people bashing landlords ITT completely ignored this post. very well put.Revenue shortfalls, as you put it, are not because people getting and not paying for the services that businesses are providing....they are because those services are not in demand at the moment. Businesses are not being stolen from is what I am saying. It is just demand for non-essential services is way down. THAT is called the cost of doing business.
Investing in real estate does not pay the big returns like some other businesses. BUT it is very stable because people always need it. Rates of returns of those other businesses now experiencing shortfalls are MUCH greater when times were good. It will be a good lesson not to 'stick your neck out too far'. I lived through 09-13 while being self-employed.
I am missing the point about how asking people to pay rent, and if they don't, evicting them is somehow wrong.
What if people all stop making their car payments? Are the banks wrong for taking the cars back?
Obviously the idea of entitlement is strong with the younger kids of this world. But there are certain realities to life. It is not free.
Investing in real estate does not pay the big returns like some other businesses. BUT it is very stable because people always need it. Rates of returns of those other businesses now experiencing shortfalls are MUCH greater when times were good. It will be a good lesson not to 'stick your neck out too far'. I lived through 09-13 while being self-employed.
I am missing the point about how asking people to pay rent, and if they don't, evicting them is somehow wrong.
What if people all stop making their car payments? Are the banks wrong for taking the cars back?
Obviously the idea of entitlement is strong with the younger kids of this world. But there are certain realities to life. It is not free.
this chit is unprecedented, you expect everyone to just hold hands and sing cumbaya, there are certain realities that you cant escape, paying rent/mortgage is one of them.
03-22-2020, 04:16 PM
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I don't have to worry about this - own a house.
03-22-2020, 04:24 PM
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Landlords can suck a fat dik and take their own advice
They need to ask family and dig into their 401k to make the mortgage.
What is an apartment complex going to do if 1200 out of 1300 stopped paying rent?
They need to ask family and dig into their 401k to make the mortgage.
What is an apartment complex going to do if 1200 out of 1300 stopped paying rent?
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03-22-2020, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted By gluon⏩
Repped! Thought no one here read serious replies.not surprised that people bashing landlords ITT completely ignored this post. very well put.
this chit is unprecedented, you expect everyone to just hold hands and sing cumbaya, there are certain realities that you cant escape, paying rent/mortgage is one of them.
this chit is unprecedented, you expect everyone to just hold hands and sing cumbaya, there are certain realities that you cant escape, paying rent/mortgage is one of them.

I have sympathy for my tenants for sure. I would probably let them slide a little, but I cant carry empty houses. I actually had a tenant reach out to my yesterday and wanted to meet me to give me $500 ahead of time for next month. He said his boss told him he is uncertain of what work will be.
The guy is a good guy, and people like this are the ones that make you want to do all you can. But in the end, I am just one person. I would be abt to let him float a bit, and in my head, I have already thought about possibly giving a 30 day grace period, but I cant afford much more than that.
With all these people bitching at evil landlords, who among them is stepping up to give 10% of their annual income to others in this hard time? Just plain silly this entitlement mentality....
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03-22-2020, 04:48 PM
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LMAO @ triggered landlords.
Fuk all of them.
Good luck on trying to collect that rent.
Cocksuckers.
Fuk all of them.
Good luck on trying to collect that rent.
Cocksuckers.
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03-22-2020, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted By induced_drag⏩
I can understand in normal situation to kick them out asap but in a situation like this where milllions are losing their jobs and getting laid off shouldnt you atleast try to work it out w them.That is why it is nice to live in a Southern state. Over the past 10 years I have only had to evict 4 tenants from our rental properties. In our county I can have them out in about 35 days. Aint no squatting here!
Compassion? Like others have said, the banks still want the mortgage payments. Find a way to pay rent or get out.
I have been self employed my entire life. When 08-12 hit, there was no unemployment for me. I had to be self reliant. I did not have work for 3+ years. It was not very fair. I had to cash out my retirements, sell off anything I could and yes....pay to keep a roof over my head.
Why is this any different? Housing is not free nor is it guaranteed. I have worked very hard to accrue our rentals.....had to pay real money for them. Why should they be free to others?
Now if the govt wants to step in and cover people's rent like they do for unemployment, that can be a call for ALL of the US taxpayers to help out. But you cant simply put the burden on the people who have 2,3 or 20 rental homes and expect them to just absorb it....
Compassion? Like others have said, the banks still want the mortgage payments. Find a way to pay rent or get out.
I have been self employed my entire life. When 08-12 hit, there was no unemployment for me. I had to be self reliant. I did not have work for 3+ years. It was not very fair. I had to cash out my retirements, sell off anything I could and yes....pay to keep a roof over my head.
Why is this any different? Housing is not free nor is it guaranteed. I have worked very hard to accrue our rentals.....had to pay real money for them. Why should they be free to others?
Now if the govt wants to step in and cover people's rent like they do for unemployment, that can be a call for ALL of the US taxpayers to help out. But you cant simply put the burden on the people who have 2,3 or 20 rental homes and expect them to just absorb it....
I respect the hustle but i have a feeling that if you kick people out right now its going to be pretty fukkin hard finding new tenants for your property especially at rates that they were paying before the COVID thing came into play.
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03-22-2020, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted By induced_drag⏩
he can pay you with semen to make things square.Repped! Thought no one here read serious replies.
I have sympathy for my tenants for sure. I would probably let them slide a little, but I cant carry empty houses. I actually had a tenant reach out to my yesterday and wanted to meet me to give me $500 ahead of time for next month. He said his boss told him he is uncertain of what work will be.
The guy is a good guy, and people like this are the ones that make you want to do all you can. But in the end, I am just one person. I would be abt to let him float a bit, and in my head, I have already thought about possibly giving a 30 day grace period, but I cant afford much more than that.
With all these people bitching at evil landlords, who among them is stepping up to give 10% of their annual income to others in this hard time? Just plain silly this entitlement mentality....

I have sympathy for my tenants for sure. I would probably let them slide a little, but I cant carry empty houses. I actually had a tenant reach out to my yesterday and wanted to meet me to give me $500 ahead of time for next month. He said his boss told him he is uncertain of what work will be.
The guy is a good guy, and people like this are the ones that make you want to do all you can. But in the end, I am just one person. I would be abt to let him float a bit, and in my head, I have already thought about possibly giving a 30 day grace period, but I cant afford much more than that.
With all these people bitching at evil landlords, who among them is stepping up to give 10% of their annual income to others in this hard time? Just plain silly this entitlement mentality....
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03-22-2020, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted By S0Jack3d⏩
That's the risk you take. Just lol at all these small brain "real estate investors" nowadays. Takes 0 skills or intellect to make money when the market was as good as it was over the past decade. Now we will see a massive culling of these types. CY@My tenants dont pay their rent I cant pay the mortgage so unless banks are willing to forego mortgage payments, im not willing to forego the rent. Sorry rentcels.
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03-22-2020, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted By DDoc⏩
Who is 'they'? I rent out an investment property to a married couple - both work in hotels/tourism. They have lost their jobs. I told them they will have to pay the rent in any case and 1 has already found another job - I may give them more time to pay up.I hope they push too far. People still aren't grasping how ugly this could get.
Inb4 fearmongerer. I hope so. We'll see.
Inb4 fearmongerer. I hope so. We'll see.
Or else I'll have them evicted for breaching the terms of the lease. Please, show me how 'ugly' this could get? For people renting it could get pretty ugly, sure.
You sound poor. Are you?
03-22-2020, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
You have something against working class people?Who is 'they'? I rent out an investment property to a married couple - both work in hotels/tourism. They have lost their jobs. I told them they will have to pay the rent in any case and 1 has already found another job - I may give them more time to pay up.
Or else I'll have them evicted for breaching the terms of the lease. Please, show me how 'ugly' this could get? For people renting it could get pretty ugly, sure.
You sound poor. Are you?
Or else I'll have them evicted for breaching the terms of the lease. Please, show me how 'ugly' this could get? For people renting it could get pretty ugly, sure.
You sound poor. Are you?
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03-22-2020, 05:38 PM
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People don;t like being kicked while they are down by creditors, or landlords, or The Government or Corporate America in general.
Abusive people like that who are much too authoritarian are what the 2nd Amendment is for.
Abusive people like that who are much too authoritarian are what the 2nd Amendment is for.
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Originally Posted By induced_drag⏩
Housing and jobs are not guaranteed rights, but neither is your ability to pay mortgage or collect rents. Your rent money is no more guaranteed than their jobs. A rental property is an investment, and investments can go sour. It's not fair, but neither is losing one's job at a time like this.That is why it is nice to live in a Southern state. Over the past 10 years I have only had to evict 4 tenants from our rental properties. In our county I can have them out in about 35 days. Aint no squatting here!
Compassion? Like others have said, the banks still want the mortgage payments. Find a way to pay rent or get out.
I have been self employed my entire life. When 08-12 hit, there was no unemployment for me. I had to be self reliant. I did not have work for 3+ years. It was not very fair. I had to cash out my retirements, sell off anything I could and yes....pay to keep a roof over my head.
Why is this any different? Housing is not free nor is it guaranteed. I have worked very hard to accrue our rentals.....had to pay real money for them. Why should they be free to others?
Now if the govt wants to step in and cover people's rent like they do for unemployment, that can be a call for ALL of the US taxpayers to help out. But you cant simply put the burden on the people who have 2,3 or 20 rental homes and expect them to just absorb it....
Compassion? Like others have said, the banks still want the mortgage payments. Find a way to pay rent or get out.
I have been self employed my entire life. When 08-12 hit, there was no unemployment for me. I had to be self reliant. I did not have work for 3+ years. It was not very fair. I had to cash out my retirements, sell off anything I could and yes....pay to keep a roof over my head.
Why is this any different? Housing is not free nor is it guaranteed. I have worked very hard to accrue our rentals.....had to pay real money for them. Why should they be free to others?
Now if the govt wants to step in and cover people's rent like they do for unemployment, that can be a call for ALL of the US taxpayers to help out. But you cant simply put the burden on the people who have 2,3 or 20 rental homes and expect them to just absorb it....
03-22-2020, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Gotcha.How many homeless people have you let in your home?
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03-22-2020, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Fuk you talking about, old man?What do you have against homeless people?

Go pester someone else.
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Originally Posted By induced_drag⏩
if you cant afford 30 days grace, you are in way over your head.Repped! Thought no one here read serious replies.
I have sympathy for my tenants for sure. I would probably let them slide a little, but I cant carry empty houses. I actually had a tenant reach out to my yesterday and wanted to meet me to give me $500 ahead of time for next month. He said his boss told him he is uncertain of what work will be.
The guy is a good guy, and people like this are the ones that make you want to do all you can. But in the end, I am just one person. I would be abt to let him float a bit, and in my head, I have already thought about possibly giving a 30 day grace period, but I cant afford much more than that.
With all these people bitching at evil landlords, who among them is stepping up to give 10% of their annual income to others in this hard time? Just plain silly this entitlement mentality....

I have sympathy for my tenants for sure. I would probably let them slide a little, but I cant carry empty houses. I actually had a tenant reach out to my yesterday and wanted to meet me to give me $500 ahead of time for next month. He said his boss told him he is uncertain of what work will be.
The guy is a good guy, and people like this are the ones that make you want to do all you can. But in the end, I am just one person. I would be abt to let him float a bit, and in my head, I have already thought about possibly giving a 30 day grace period, but I cant afford much more than that.
With all these people bitching at evil landlords, who among them is stepping up to give 10% of their annual income to others in this hard time? Just plain silly this entitlement mentality....
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Originally Posted By BigTimeOperator⏩
I don't think the Second Amendment was created so that people could get out of their contractual obligations by waving a gun around, bruh.Abusive people like that who are much too authoritarian are what the 2nd Amendment is for.
With that said, as this deteriorates, landlords are very likely to end up regretting not working something out with an existing tenant over going through a legal process and then trying to find a new one in a climate of widespread unemployment with high vacancy. Some people are likely to discover what I was trying to tell them about the dangers of putting all your eggs in the rental property basket of a single area instead of diversifying.
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
03-22-2020, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Well, if someone has "something against working class people" because they won't house them for free... You must have a couple of homeless people living in your place. Otherwise you have something against them.
Maybe you have a single mother with two kids living with you?
Maybe you have a single mother with two kids living with you?
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Breach of Contract isn;t the outrage that people make it out to be. it's like a misdemeanor., and is sometimes justified if it's an oppressive Contract of Adhesion.
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Originally Posted By S0Jack3d⏩
haha this clown buys on margin (loan) and then relies on someone else to pay his loan off. You deserve a default bud.My tenants dont pay their rent I cant pay the mortgage so unless banks are willing to forego mortgage payments, im not willing to forego the rent. Sorry rentcels.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Are you saying that working class people cannot own properties that they rent to other people? Yeesh!You have something against working class people?
03-22-2020, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted By MediocreGains⏩
Housing and jobs are not guaranteed rights, but neither is your ability to pay mortgage orcollect rents. Your rent money is no more guaranteed than their jobs.A rental property is an investment, and investments can go sour. It's not fair, but neither is losing one's job at a time like this.

fwiw, i believe in rent control to an extent because there are a lot of scumbag landlords but wth at some of these *******s who see nothing wrong with dummies who have no emergency fund and now want to squat on someone else's property.
03-22-2020, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Aristotelian⏩
You seem very confused.Are you saying that working class people cannot own properties that they rent to other people? Yeesh!
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