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My aunt is dead. My uncle will likely die soon. #ItsJustAFlu bro.
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Originally Posted By Lazagna⏩
Doesn't have to be anything fancy. Take a look at what you got and PM some options with what you can make.ha maybe. i'm broke man now trying to budget hard (as if i werent before...). I have a lot of chicken breats, some tortillas and various kinds of bans and rice on hand...hmm what else. prob not much more than that. i can pick up more but ya you know the deal
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Originally Posted By Yoopwat⏩
Firstly, I am very sorry for your loss. Please don't take any of the below to diminish that, or blame him for it in any way. I don't know his medical history and I wouldn't dream of commenting on his lifestyle.I mean, he is a point. My uncle died of a massive heart attack at 44 a few weeks ago, don’t hear people harping on about cholesterol on the daily. The frenzy over this virus is absurd.
But it's not really equivalent. You aren't exposed to cholesterol because the dude next to you on the bus is eating a cheeseburger. We teach people CPR all over the place and there are massive movements to put AED's in more public places. But heart attacks don't spread exponentially through the country and your risk can be greatly reduced by making diet and lifestyle choices. The only thing you can do to protect yourself from the virus is to isolate yourself.
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Originally Posted By irollurmom⏩
Really? Which do you think will kill more this year?Maybe it's because multiple people aren't currently packed in ICUs around the world with heart disease.
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Originally Posted By NicholasMango⏩
Of course but the relative risk of Covid 19 is astonishingly low compared to things like heart attacks, cancers, car accidents. In terms of impact on society by deaths Covid 19 is not even in the same ball parkFirstly, I am very sorry for your loss. Please don't take any of the below to diminish that, or blame him for it in any way. I don't know his medical history and I wouldn't dream of commenting on his lifestyle.
But it's not really equivalent. You aren't exposed to cholesterol because the dude next to you on the bus is eating a cheeseburger. We teach people CPR all over the place and there are massive movements to put AED's in more public places. But heart attacks don't spread exponentially through the country and your risk can be greatly reduced by making diet and lifestyle choices. The only thing you can do to protect yourself from the virus is to isolate yourself.
But it's not really equivalent. You aren't exposed to cholesterol because the dude next to you on the bus is eating a cheeseburger. We teach people CPR all over the place and there are massive movements to put AED's in more public places. But heart attacks don't spread exponentially through the country and your risk can be greatly reduced by making diet and lifestyle choices. The only thing you can do to protect yourself from the virus is to isolate yourself.
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Originally Posted By Yoopwat⏩
How is that even a question? Death from heart disease is preventable and is usually brought on through years and years of slow valve blockage. This virus kills people in a matter of weeks.Really? Which do you think will kill more this year?
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Originally Posted By Yoopwat⏩
Astonishingly low? How so?Of course but the relative risk of Covid 19 is astonishingly low compared to things like heart attacks, cancers, car accidents. In terms of impact on society by deaths Covid 19 is not even in the same ball park
Heart disease takes 1,774 American lives a day.
COVID-19 today will take around 1,100 American lives WITH lockdowns in place. Now you add in competition for lifesaving equipment?
Unregulated, COVID-19 objectively has the potential to kill more Americans in one day than heart disease, cancer, and car accidents. It's simple math with the growth rate.
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Originally Posted By Yoopwat⏩
COVID-19. By a lot.Really? Which do you think will kill more this year?
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Thank you.sad to hear
Originally Posted By Yoopwat⏩
I don't agree at all.Of course but the relative risk of Covid 19 is astonishingly low compared to things like heart attacks, cancers, car accidents. In terms of impact on society by deaths Covid 19 is not even in the same ball park
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exactly.Astonishingly low? How so?
Heart disease takes 1,774 American lives a day.
COVID-19 today will take around 1,100 American lives WITH lockdowns in place. Now you add in competition for lifesaving equipment?
Unregulated, COVID-19 objectively has the potential to kill more Americans in one day than heart disease, cancer, and car accidents. It's simple math with the growth rate.
Heart disease takes 1,774 American lives a day.
COVID-19 today will take around 1,100 American lives WITH lockdowns in place. Now you add in competition for lifesaving equipment?
Unregulated, COVID-19 objectively has the potential to kill more Americans in one day than heart disease, cancer, and car accidents. It's simple math with the growth rate.
As an update: My uncle is now in an ICU on a ventilator. He also apparently has not eaten in 3 days because of this.
Barring a miracle he's going to die. His daughter is never going to be able to talk to him ever again. When the number of deaths goes up in Michigan tomorrow my aunt is going to be one of those numbers.
Sometime in the next week or so my uncle is going to be one of them.
Take a look at those numbers again and keep in mind that every single one of those deaths is someones father/mother/uncle/aunt/brother/sister. Many of them would've lived many many more years. Their lives matter.
They are just another boomer. They are human beings are their lives have meaning. They aren't all old people either. Young people have died as well. Young people with perfectly manageable conditions who had their entire lives ahead of them are dead and sitting in a freezer truck as I type this. This is real.
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Originally Posted By NicholasMango⏩
I'm sorry about your aunt and uncle, but this is not just limited to covid-19. You have to realize there are other viral infections that can kill them. Common rhinoviruses or other coronaviruses causing common cold will have a 10%+ mortality rate if they get into an elder care unit for example. They are no different from covid-19 in claiming lives of vulnerable people.Firstly, I am very sorry for your loss. Please don't take any of the below to diminish that, or blame him for it in any way. I don't know his medical history and I wouldn't dream of commenting on his lifestyle.
But it's not really equivalent. You aren't exposed to cholesterol because the dude next to you on the bus is eating a cheeseburger. We teach people CPR all over the place and there are massive movements to put AED's in more public places. But heart attacks don't spread exponentially through the country and your risk can be greatly reduced by making diet and lifestyle choices. The only thing you can do to protect yourself from the virus is to isolate yourself.
But it's not really equivalent. You aren't exposed to cholesterol because the dude next to you on the bus is eating a cheeseburger. We teach people CPR all over the place and there are massive movements to put AED's in more public places. But heart attacks don't spread exponentially through the country and your risk can be greatly reduced by making diet and lifestyle choices. The only thing you can do to protect yourself from the virus is to isolate yourself.
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Originally Posted By Azure84⏩
My family has had people with similar conditions to my aunt and uncle outlive them by many many years regardless of the yearly flu and cold season. Those viruses don't spread as easily and have much shorter incubation periods so don't spread anywhere near as often from asymptomatic people so they are much easier for the elderly to avoid.I'm sorry about your aunt and uncle, but this is not just limited to covid-19. You have to realize there are other viral infections that can kill them. Common rhinoviruses or other coronaviruses causing common cold will have a 10%+ mortality rate if they get into an elder care unit for example. They are no different from covid-19 in claiming lives of vulnerable people.
Are they a problem? yes. Is this worse? Also yes.
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I'm sorry OP, lost two family members to it so far myself (both lived in Spain). Though its indisputable that if we don't do something about this business lockdown, we will enter a recession/depression that will kill ten-fold the number of people the virus will. We have to find a balance here. I cannot offer any input beyond that, unfortunately.
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04-04-2020, 05:05 PM
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I'm sorry for your loss OP.
Just announcing local deaths on the nightly news here. One was a younger woman from the city I'm living in with no underlying health conditions.
Detroit Metro is getting hit hard. Read that hospitals are sending people home as much as they can to avoid being over run.
Saw that a 1,000 bed temporary hospital was being constructed at Cobo Center in Detroit and another 500 bed temporary hospital in Ann Arbor.
Just announcing local deaths on the nightly news here. One was a younger woman from the city I'm living in with no underlying health conditions.
Detroit Metro is getting hit hard. Read that hospitals are sending people home as much as they can to avoid being over run.
Saw that a 1,000 bed temporary hospital was being constructed at Cobo Center in Detroit and another 500 bed temporary hospital in Ann Arbor.
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Originally Posted By Beast92⏩
Lol except they live in the USA.RIP; how old? this is proof the UK NHS cant handle serious health issues
RIP; how old? this is proof the USA cant handle serious health issues.
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You've got to be a real ornery, bitter, and self-centered brah to look at this thread and say "tHeY wOuLd HavE dIeD aNyWaY!"
Fuk outta here.
People are dying that shouldn't be dead. There are people who are 45 years old, being hospitalized for COVID19. I'm not a fear monger by any means, I think that for most of us the symptoms would be mild.
But 45 years old is no time to die. And at 65 (which is the most affected demographic), you should be RETIRING.Imagine busting your ass for 40+ years getting ready for retirement, only to die because "of a flu".
Everybody that has died was somebody else's relative, husband, wife, friend.
Come on bros, have a little fukkin' respect.
Fuk outta here.
People are dying that shouldn't be dead. There are people who are 45 years old, being hospitalized for COVID19. I'm not a fear monger by any means, I think that for most of us the symptoms would be mild.
But 45 years old is no time to die. And at 65 (which is the most affected demographic), you should be RETIRING.Imagine busting your ass for 40+ years getting ready for retirement, only to die because "of a flu".
Everybody that has died was somebody else's relative, husband, wife, friend.
Come on bros, have a little fukkin' respect.
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Originally Posted By Slayermanlet⏩
I echo this!Really sorry about that bro
These dickheads saying making it out to be no biggie because victims have underlying health conditions seem blind or cold to the fact that many would still have decades of life left
Fingers crossed for your uncle
These dickheads saying making it out to be no biggie because victims have underlying health conditions seem blind or cold to the fact that many would still have decades of life left
Fingers crossed for your uncle
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
No, this isn't proof of that. It is proof that PC Police trying not to be racist telling people to go to China Town (Nancy Pelosi and the New York Mayor told people this) as evidence coming out that it would be a bad idea killed people. American freedom is also a double-edge sword. The free spirit that has lead to such my innovation and art, is also killing people.Lol except they live in the USA.
RIP; how old? this is proof the USA cant handle serious health issues.
RIP; how old? this is proof the USA cant handle serious health issues.
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Well said!You've got to be a real ornery, bitter, and self-centered brah to look at this thread and say "tHeY wOuLd HavE dIeD aNyWaY!"
Fuk outta here.
People are dying that shouldn't be dead. There are people who are 45 years old, being hospitalized for COVID19. I'm not a fear monger by any means, I think that for most of us the symptoms would be mild.
But 45 years old is no time to die. And at 65 (which is the most affected demographic), you should be RETIRING.Imagine busting your ass for 40+ years getting ready for retirement, only to die because "of a flu".
Everybody that has died was somebody else's relative, husband, wife, friend.
Come on bros, have a little fukkin' respect.
Fuk outta here.
People are dying that shouldn't be dead. There are people who are 45 years old, being hospitalized for COVID19. I'm not a fear monger by any means, I think that for most of us the symptoms would be mild.
But 45 years old is no time to die. And at 65 (which is the most affected demographic), you should be RETIRING.Imagine busting your ass for 40+ years getting ready for retirement, only to die because "of a flu".
Everybody that has died was somebody else's relative, husband, wife, friend.
Come on bros, have a little fukkin' respect.
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Originally Posted By Lazagna⏩
Better hope I don't see your ass post again srs, you piece of ****My Dad's dead too. Grandpa's on both sides. Uncle. Many others.
Unfortunately none had to do with COVID, turns out people just die. Weird right
Unfortunately none had to do with COVID, turns out people just die. Weird right
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Yup, I am currently working 12 hr days to manufacture the beds and other medical equipment to fill the need of all of this here in MI. Prolly close to OP, hope I don't catch this chit in the process. We are running our machines 24/7 for this specifically.Saw that a 1,000 bed temporary hospital was being constructed at Cobo Center in Detroit and another 500 bed temporary hospital in Ann Arbor.
This is definitely real I know a couple people already that have it. From what I have seen it seems pretty random on how people respond which is scary.
04-04-2020, 05:38 PM
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I'm sorry for your loss op.
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Get the fuk out of this threadLol at letting emotions get in the way of your perception of things. You say in your own post how they were already susceptible then use this as evidence as to how bad things are. I bet you think I should be kept by the police in my own house and not allowed to leave because of your emotionality right now too, don't you? Fukking *******.
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Amen.We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the only-begotten, begotten of the Father before all ages. Light of Light; true God of true God; begotten, not made; of one essence with the Father, by whom all things were made; who for us men and for our salvation came down from heaven, and was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary, and became man. And He was crucified for us under Pontius Pilate, and suffered, and was buried. And the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits at the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again with glory to judge the living and the dead; whose Kingdom shall have no end.
Unfortunately the misc isn't religious so we won't see most of them in Heaven. Some of them probably partying right now
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Originally Posted By nn586⏩
Well my 34 year old marathon-runner cousin has it and has just been taken off a vent after 4-5 days on it. He's still in ICU (I think - he may have been released from ICU). He was admitted to hospital with a high fever and suddenly went from breathing okay to needing to be on a vent. This is scary chit.Better hope I don't see your ass post again srs, you piece of ****
Yup, I am currently working 12 hr days to manufacture the beds and other medical equipment to fill the need of all of this here in MI. Prolly close to OP, hope I don't catch this chit in the process. We are running our machines 24/7 for this specifically.
This is definitely real I know a couple people already that have it. From what I have seen it seems pretty random on how people respond which is scary.
Yup, I am currently working 12 hr days to manufacture the beds and other medical equipment to fill the need of all of this here in MI. Prolly close to OP, hope I don't catch this chit in the process. We are running our machines 24/7 for this specifically.
This is definitely real I know a couple people already that have it. From what I have seen it seems pretty random on how people respond which is scary.
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Originally Posted By letshavebabies⏩
Unfortunately I'm a pretty garbage role model to Christians, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna not respond to the "religion of peace" with actual truth.Amen.
Unfortunately the misc isn't religious so we won't see most of them in Heaven. Some of them probably partying right now
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Originally Posted By Mike199623⏩
Really easy to spot somebody who has 0 experience in healthcare. You've got to be a complete potato to compare a viral pandemic to heart disease. Hospitals are running out of the meds that even allow people to be on (now split) ventilators (midaz/fent/prop). Death rate is being temporarily reduced by us running through all of our resources at a rapid rate-resources which we will not be able to restock, and the outbreak hasn't come close to a peak yet.400,000 die of heart disease in the US ALONE YEARLY, so when your poosy little virus reaches a fraction of that then you can be sarcastic. Dipchit
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Originally Posted By Adam16121⏩
Yep....This is going to get a lot worse in the next two weeks.Really easy to spot somebody who has 0 experience in healthcare. You've got to be a complete potato to compare a viral pandemic to heart disease. Hospitals are running out of the meds that even allow people to be on (now split) ventilators (midaz/fent/prop). Death rate is being temporarily reduced by us running through all of our resources at a rapid rate-resources which we will not be able to restock, and the outbreak hasn't come close to a peak yet.
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Originally Posted By Rabbitjb⏩
There are hardly any 19 and 20 year olds dying. The ones that did die amount to a statistic abnormality. We should not be shutting down the entire global economy. As I already explained to you specifically before and as you were unable to understand, come back in a year and you will see the total annual deaths in the US will be within the norm.One can live a long and happy life with underlying but manageable health issues
When 19 and 20 year olds are dying because they have a perfectly manageable health condition it gets real, really fast. When perfectly healthy 30 somethings are dying the same. Ignoring those that pull through with lasting lung issues
When 19 and 20 year olds are dying because they have a perfectly manageable health condition it gets real, really fast. When perfectly healthy 30 somethings are dying the same. Ignoring those that pull through with lasting lung issues
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
You tell that to the multiple administrations who decided that this was the effective course.Oh ok, lets shut down the entire global economy and bring in the next great depression.
I can give you equal number of anecdotes of old people with symptoms no worse than a general cold.
Supporting shutting down the global economy because of some emotional anecdotes is insane.
I can give you equal number of anecdotes of old people with symptoms no worse than a general cold.
Supporting shutting down the global economy because of some emotional anecdotes is insane.
Regardless of how you, or I feel, there must be some reason why our government supported taking that risk. Shouldn't we take that into, at least, some consideration?
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Listen OP, I’m sorry you’ve lost people.
But that’s just how life works. Eventually your ass and my ass will die too. Whether from COVID or some other dumb f*cking sh*t or even just old age.
Stop feeling sorry for yourself. Maybe remember all the good time those people did have before going instead of being a negative whiny little f*ck about how unfair it all is.
It’s plenty fair. Because everybody dies. People saying they had “plenty of life left to live”.... well no they didn’t or they’d be alive.
We don’t all die from old age asleep in our beds at home. In fact most of us don’t. We die exactly from sh*t like this.
Stop sobbing and live your life to the fullest so when you go there’s no reason for anyone to cry because you made the most of every moment
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But that’s just how life works. Eventually your ass and my ass will die too. Whether from COVID or some other dumb f*cking sh*t or even just old age.
Stop feeling sorry for yourself. Maybe remember all the good time those people did have before going instead of being a negative whiny little f*ck about how unfair it all is.
It’s plenty fair. Because everybody dies. People saying they had “plenty of life left to live”.... well no they didn’t or they’d be alive.
We don’t all die from old age asleep in our beds at home. In fact most of us don’t. We die exactly from sh*t like this.
Stop sobbing and live your life to the fullest so when you go there’s no reason for anyone to cry because you made the most of every moment
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DOZENS of people will DIE per state per day!!!! OH THE MADNESS!!!
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Originally Posted By Peacening⏩
No, it is their fault. People are too ignorant and stubborn to not listen to public health officials and doctors. People going out among all this crap are responsibleRIP
Sorry the medical industry has failed your family by being completely unprepared. I wouldn't put the blame on people for living their lives however. I don't think that's fair.
Sorry the medical industry has failed your family by being completely unprepared. I wouldn't put the blame on people for living their lives however. I don't think that's fair.
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Originally Posted By Mike199623⏩
I have a profile picture and my wife is an ICU nurse who works with covid-19 patients every night in a metropolitan hospital.OP is a government shill trying to manipulate the masses with his liberal emotional agenda. Doesn’t even have a profile pic
Are we government shills as well?
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