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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
You're just being a totally irrational feminine pussy.

You have to allow herd immunity to take its course, and allow the unfit to pass.

People are going to be exposed to the virus at some point, and the virus will never be completely eradicated by putting people on house arrest, against their will, violating constitutional law.
"allow herd immunity to take its course"? Did you watch a Youtube video ro something? It is false that everyone will necessarily be exposed to the virus at some point. It is also wrong to assume that 'herd immunity' will ever protect us... I don't know why so many accountants and business majors are droning on about 'herd immunity'.
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Originally Posted By mp83
60 is not that high risk. Like I said, I know of two nurses in their 20s who died this past week from it. You apparently know more than scientists and epidemiologists, so you should inform them that they're wrong. They'd love to hear it.

Do you know anyone who has had it? I know four people (not counting the nurses), and it sucks. Three of them that had it are still having symptoms 7 weeks later. The only one in the clear now is only 3 years old. Anyone saying this is just the regular flu doesn't know what they're talking about
links to a news story or im calling BS.

2 healthy nurses in their 20s dying in succession would make national news.

CNN needs that kind of fear porn
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Originally Posted By SoapKing
"allow herd immunity to take its course"? Did you watch a Youtube video ro something? It is false that everyone will necessarily be exposed to the virus at some point. It is also wrong to assume that 'herd immunity' will ever protect us... I don't know why so many accountants and business majors are droning on about 'herd immunity'.
That is actually what a Stanford doctor wrote, you fukin imbecile.

Edit:

Fact 3: Vital population immunity is prevented by total isolation policies, prolonging the problem.

We know from decades of medical science that infection itself allows people to generate an immune response — antibodies — so that the infection is controlled throughout the population by “herd immunity.” Indeed, that is the main purpose of widespread immunization in other viral diseases — to assist with population immunity. In this virus, we know that medical care is not even necessary for the vast majority of people who are infected. It is so mild that half of infected people are asymptomatic, shown in early data from the Diamond Princess ship, and then in Iceland and Italy. That has been falsely portrayed as a problem requiring mass isolation. In fact, infected people without severe illness are the immediately available vehicle for establishing widespread immunity. By transmitting the virus to others in the low-risk group who then generate antibodies, they block the network of pathways toward the most vulnerable people, ultimately ending the threat. Extending whole-population isolation would directly prevent that widespread immunity from developing.

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthca...otal-isolation
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
That is actually what a Stanford doctor wrote, you fukin imbecile.
What's his name?
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Originally Posted By AA43560
links to a news story or im calling BS.

2 healthy nurses in their 20s dying in succession would make national news.

CNN needs that kind of fear porn
Yeah I am going to risk my job so CNN will have a story
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post 1603983191 05-02-2020, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted By SoapKing
What's his name?
Post 66 you dolt.

Now disappear.
Originally Posted By mp83
Yeah I am going to risk my job so CNN will have a story
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
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The global economic depression that is going to ensue from this is going to cause 10000000 x the devastation this little virus is causing.
This..

The bills keep coming for everyone. It’s not practical to shut down life on earth.
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I predict by the summer that 75 percent of Americans will be infected. I went outside today because I had to mail a letter and I saw people acting like everything is normal since it is nice outside. Let the idiots celebrate because they think this virus mysteriously disappeared because the weather is nice.
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Originally Posted By whogotmuhbeers
This..

The bills keep coming for everyone. It’s not practical to shut down life on earth.
Time to go full Star Trek. UBI for all poorcels.
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Originally Posted By AA43560
links to a news story or im calling BS.

2 healthy nurses in their 20s dying in succession would make national news.

CNN needs that kind of fear porn
Did a Google search and found this. Not sure if it's who he's referring to. RIP

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/21-...complications/
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Originally Posted By digital022
In regards to California, Gavin Newsom has been on top of it for the most part. One of, if not the first to enact lock downs, and he just overrode Orange County's opening of beaches lol. Beaches are shutdown statewide.
And yet the sheriffs (who dont give a fuk what the governor said) wont enforce his tyranny

Thats how america is supposed to work

Oh and BTW they were also protesting the release of dangerous criminals and sex offenders due to the coronavirus
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Originally Posted By mp83
60 is not that high risk. Like I said, I know of two nurses in their 20s who died this past week from it. You apparently know more than scientists and epidemiologists, so you should inform them that they're wrong. They'd love to hear it.

Do you know anyone who has had it? I know four people (not counting the nurses), and it sucks. Three of them that had it are still having symptoms 7 weeks later. The only one in the clear now is only 3 years old. Anyone saying this is just the regular flu doesn't know what they're talking about
Could you please provide some information about the two nurses that died? A link to a news article or something? I'm not doubting you but google returns no results.
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[QUOTE=OPGenesis post_id=1603983191]Post 66 you dolt.

Now disappear.



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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust
I predict by the summer that 75 percent of Americans will be infected.
You're right, and it's unavoidable.... All we are doing now is prolonging this fact.... While maintaining vacant hospitals.... See the issue?
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Won't you people shut the fuk up. Every state should be open and only at risk should be quarantined
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Originally Posted By mp83
Really, then what does it have to do with? You really think the people in charge want to crash the economy and hurt their re-election status?



The hospital I work at has had two nurses in their 20s, with no underlying conditions, die in the past week. This **** is no joke. Also, obesity, which is becoming a world-wide issue, is an underlying condition that Covid hurts.
Nurses in Wisconsin? I’m guessing there was serious obesity going on. I live in Michigan, and hospital nurses are almost all whales here even at top hospitals. It’s quite sad.
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Originally Posted By mp83
Yeah I am going to risk my job so CNN will have a story
You didnt need to do anything. If what you say actually happened, the news would have spread.
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Every libtard governers wet dream...useful idiots.

Piss off with your muh two weeks scare tactics.
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Originally Posted By BigPoppaPump84
Did a Google search and found this. Not sure if it's who he's referring to. RIP

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/21-...complications/
That article is about a morbidly obese girl that died. He said it was two nurses with no pre-existing conditions.
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I'm gonna be honest my gains are way more important than your grandma.

If she dies I'd bench press her casket.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.
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At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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Originally Posted By BigPoppaPump84
Did a Google search and found this. Not sure if it's who he's referring to. RIP

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/21-...complications/
That girl worked in a nursing home, not a hospital. She also looks to be 50 BMI easily
https://www.pe.com/2020/04/13/woman-...m-coronavirus/


Not "healthy" as that guy claimed. Rest in peace to her, but I hate it when people leave details out or twist news stories.

If two nurses died, then post the news story. If htey wernt actually healthy, then he shouldnt say they are healthy. This is an age of disinformation, so we have to be very careful when idiots online just say things.

Two actually HEALTHY 21 year old nurses dying in the SAME HOSPITAL would make national news. Not only is the fact that they were in there 20s exceptionally sad/rare (and thus profitable for CNN/Fox), but the fact that they died in the same hospital should raise further questions, hence a golden news story/cash cow.
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Originally Posted By AA43560
That girl worked in a nursing home, not a hospital. She also looks to be 50 BMI easily
https://www.pe.com/2020/04/13/woman-...m-coronavirus/


Not "healthy" as that guy claimed. Rest in peace to her, but I hate it when people leave details out or twist news stories.

If two nurses died, then post the news story. If htey wernt actually healthy, then he shouldnt say they are healthy. This is an age of disinformation, so we have to be very careful when idiots online just say things.

Two actually HEALTHY 21 year old nurses dying in the SAME HOSPITAL would make national news. Not only is the fact that they were in there 20s exceptionally sad/rare (and thus profitable for CNN/Fox), but the fact that they died in the same hospital should raise further questions, hence a golden news story/cash cow.
I didn't say 21 year old. There are very few 21 year old RNs. They were in their 20s, maybe 30s. They were young. Not every death makes the news.

I guess I will tell my employer that they are lying because a miscer told me they were.
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
Post 66 you dolt.

Now disappear.



That's just basic public health rhetoric though. Obviously you would like to be able to rely on herd immunity but depending on the molecular biology you might not be able to. In this case, a lot of patients have been reinfected after recovery in China.

Preprint suggesting that this trend is based in the structure of the virus and will therefore be a problem for every other country:https://doi.org/10.1101/2020.03.30.20047365

Scott Atlas spends most of his time in politics now - if he thinks he scores political points by telling us not to be cautious then that's what he'll do. Besides the idea of sectioning off 'high risk' people and letting everyone else get sick first could never be enforced in this country. The vast majority of senior citizens with heart conditions are republicans.
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I wouldn't be surprised if some people were lying just for attention.

As I said earlier I know a woman who has it.

She's basically on her deathbed and has been for months.

It's very convenient considering if she does die any time in the near future it can be attributed to Corona virus.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.

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Originally Posted By AA43560
That girl worked in a nursing home, not a hospital. She also looks to be 50 BMI easily
https://www.pe.com/2020/04/13/woman-...m-coronavirus/


Not "healthy" as that guy claimed. Rest in peace to her, but I hate it when people leave details out or twist news stories.

If two nurses died, then post the news story. If htey wernt actually healthy, then he shouldnt say they are healthy. This is an age of disinformation, so we have to be very careful when idiots online just say things.

Two actually HEALTHY 21 year old nurses dying in the SAME HOSPITAL would make national news. Not only is the fact that they were in there 20s exceptionally sad/rare (and thus profitable for CNN/Fox), but the fact that they died in the same hospital should raise further questions, hence a golden news story/cash cow.
Ya I want some proof. The dudes profile and signature say Wisconsin.... there are no news reports about healthy 20 year olds that died in Wisconsin. If there were really 2 nurses with no pre-existing conditions that died in the same week in the same hospital it would be national news.... especially when it happened in a state with only 316 confirmed deaths so far.
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Originally Posted By OregonBrah
Ya I want some proof. The dudes profile and signature say Wisconsin.... there are no news reports about healthy 20 year olds that died in Wisconsin. If there were really 2 nurses with no pre-existing conditions that died in the same week in the same hospital it would be national news.... especially when it happened in a state with only 316 confirmed deaths so far.
I work remotely as a contractor. The hospital I work for isn't in Wisconsin. I ain't giving names because I am not stupid enough to give info to the misc. Not every death makes the news, even Covid deaths.
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Originally Posted By SoapKing
That's just basic public health rhetoric though. Obviously you would like to be able to rely on herd immunity but depending on the molecular biology you might not be able to. In this case, a lot of patients have been reinfected after recovery in China.

Preprint suggesting that this trend is based in the structure of the virus and will therefore be a problem for every other country:https://doi.org/10.1101/2020.03.30.20047365

Scott Atlas spends most of his time in politics now - if he thinks he scores political points by telling us not to be cautious then that's what he'll do. Besides the idea of sectioning off 'high risk' people and letting everyone else get sick first could never be enforced in this country. The vast majority of senior citizens with heart conditions are republicans.
Nobody has been reinfected. The antibody tests are only 50% accurate and there are false positives.

The thing about people not producing COVID antibodies is highly unlikely. Remember, large corporations have a lot of opportunity here for Rent Seeking behavior, so they are lobbying like crazy to keep lockdowns in place as long as possible. There’s a ton of intentional misinformation out there because a government mandated limitation of their competition only comes around once per generation.
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens
Nobody has been reinfected. The antibody tests are only 50% accurate and there are false positives.

The thing about people not producing COVID antibodies is highly unlikely. Remember, large corporations have a lot of opportunity here for Rent Seeking behavior, so they are lobbying like crazy to keep lockdowns in place as long as possible. There’s a ton of intentional misinformation out there because a government mandated limitation of their competition only comes around once per generation.
Yep, the antibody and the general test are pretty crappy. A lot of false negatives with the general test (I think like 30%?) and a lot of false positives with the antibody test.
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Of all the deaths below age 30, I can't help but notice a pattern
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens
Nobody has been reinfected. The antibody tests are only 50% accurate and there are false positives.

The thing about people not producing COVID antibodies is highly unlikely. Remember, large corporations have a lot of opportunity here for Rent Seeking behavior, so they are lobbying like crazy to keep lockdowns in place as long as possible. There’s a ton of intentional misinformation out there because a government mandated limitation of their competition only comes around once per generation.
Good post.
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