You can get a shotgun license, for example if you're a farmer or go hunting.

The vast majority of hand guns are illegal though. This came about after the Dunblane massacre where a nutter shot 16 children dead in a school.

Whilst not all types of firearms are illegal in the UK, very, very few people actually own one. There isn't a single person that I personally know of that owns a gun (that I'm aware of).

The UK is also one of the few places where the police are not routinely armed. Armed police have additional training and choose to be armed, but your average police officer here does not walk around with a gun. Armed robberies (involving guns) or other incidents involving firearms are also very uncommon.

Are they savage with those billy clubs?

Lol, I'm not sure as I've never been on the receiving end. Back in the day they used to carry little truncheons, but they've since been replaced with the extending batons. I think many of them carry pepper spray and some now carry tasers. Last I heard, the vast majority of the police here do not want to carry a firearm.

Slightly grey area, but it rather depends on the situation.

If you are say a woman or a small framed man & you are faced with somebody 14 stone plus etc, you realistically have no means of beating them in a one on one encounter & they are not leaving then yes, you are allowed to use appropriate/reasonable force to defend yourself & your property-so if you produce a knife from your kitchen or a similar instrument & a struggle ensues then if that knife etc goes into them it is self defence. If they back off & leave then you cannot plunge a knife into them as they are not posing a threat to your property & you need to call the police to let them deal with finding & arresting them. Similarly, if during the struggle they end up unconscious then you cannot stab them while they are lying there out of it-you would be expected to dial 999 for police & ambulance, you couldn't having stabbed somebody once then keep stabbing them if they are no longer attacking you-that is then attempted murder or murder.

I have an AR and an AK next to my bed loaded ready to go, a hunting knife near by and a Glock hidden somewhere in my house.

All guns I own where bought legally thru a private sale.

Also in FL you can open carry a hunting knife, not that I would do that to look like crocodile dundi

I agree its not a good idea but its also not a good idea to be a sitting duck if the chit ever hits the fan. If I were a citizen of the UK I would buy one, disassemble it and hide the parts around the crib. Just put it back together if needed. Stay under the radar of the cops, keep your nose clean and there's no reason you'd ever get caught.

Legally, you are allowed to use "reasonable force" to defend yourself or to repel them.

For example, tying a burglar up and setting him on fire wouldn't be reasonable force. Holding him down until the police arrive would be. Stabbing him is a grey area depending on a multitude of different factors at the time. Ultimately, the person that decides whether it was "reasonable force" or not, is a judge.

Lmao what a joke.

How about you just boil up a pot of tea and discuss their intentions?

It's not really a joke. If a teenager trespasses onto your property to retrieve his ball, it's hardly reasonable to blast him away with a shotgun. Come to think of it, tying up a burglar and setting him on fire is hardly reasonable either. If you are in fear for your life then you would most likely get away with stabbing an intruder. If you stabbed them 10 times and then didn't call an ambulance, that wouldn't be reasonable force. In the UK people get all hot under the collar over this, but in reality it is quite balanced and sensible.

In UK killers have fists.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38992393

Not sure what you are expecting to happen here-we don't have the government hating militias ready to rise up & overthrow. We have had the odd usually race related riots like Brixton, but most people here are terrified of guns, have no interest in them etc as it has never been part of our culture to own them.

Police here do have the right to come into your home for multiple reasons-if a child is missing in that area, if they believe a criminal/escaped convict is hiding in your home etc. Of course you could also be burgled or your house might catch fire while you are out-the police & fire brigade will then go in & poke around. There is also the problem that you don't know if the person you are buying from is an undercover cop, or somebody who is being watched by the police & everything they do observed/filmed, or if they are working for the cops ratting people out. Really unless you are a criminal or a very tiny minority like farmers who have a legit reason for needing a firearm then we have no need for them here.

A judge would have nothing to do with it. It would be up to the police whether to ask the CPS for a charge & that would be very unlikely if there is any doubt as if it went to trial then 12 members of the public would decide & it is highly unlikely confronted with somebody defending their home against a little scrote unless you stabbed them in the back while they were fleeing or caved their skull in while they were on the floor begging for mercy that your peers would convict. The judge is only there to guide the jury on certain things & to set a sentence if a guilty plea is reached, or to throw the case out of they don't think that the evidence presented is sufficient.

We have the right to buy spirits and wine at the supermarket unlike in some states in the US where you have to go to an ABC store. Can you imagine going to your supermarket asking where the whiskey is, them saying we don't sell that but would you like to buy a gun?

Anti-rape devices are called doughnuts here and can be legally obtained from Krispy-Kream.

Eat 20 a day and you are safe.

Yes you're correct, ultimately it would be for members of the jury to decide if it was reasonable force or not (not a judge like I said originally). It would be up to the police and CPS to decide whether to prosecute like you say, but a decision to prosecute doesn't automatically mean that it was or wasn't reasonable force. People often ask, "Who decides if it was reasonable force or not" and I guess what I was trying to get at, is it isn't the homeower or the intruder that decides, but rather the Police, CPS and then the court (in that order).

Can't spell cUcKed without U.K.!

Or going to your local town hall to be presented with this:

In the last 10 years I've only been visited twice - once at grant and once at renewal.Not true - I'm not a target shooter and don't belong to a club so never attend a range. They don't even really look at ammo usage especially closely (unless you want to increase your holding amount) as long as you are using some which backs up your "need" to own a firearm.Define regularly - it's usually about every 5 years unless something goes wrong and you come down with depression or other mental health issue.Not quite - you specify a calibre, action and purpose ie I need a bolt action 30-06 to shoot deer. They check that the land you shoot over is suitable for using that calibre and that it is legal for that quarry species.(so if for example you asked for .17HMR for deer they'd politely remind you it's illegal and say no)

If it is suitable for the job you specified, they grant you permission to acquire that type of rifle for that purpose - then when you go and buy the rifle the firearm dealer (RFD) checks you permission, then puts the details of the rifle onto your license. You tell the police you have acquired the gun and that's all there is to it.This is true - I had the barrel on my old BRNO Mod5 cut down to 12" and threaded for a moderator... it just about squeaked in at legal length but makes an awesome truck gun and makes less noise than an air rifle.Bit of a blanket statement and not strictly true - motoring offenses are unlikely to cause much trouble but if you get caught going out and thumping people or committing domestic violence for example then yes you are likely to lose them.This part is accurate and really sucks - our laws in this area seem to favour the transgressor. Even if you use domestic items for defence you are still likely to get in trouble if it is deemed "excessive force" which is just plain madness. If someone breaks into your home and threatens you/family they should expect the worst.

There was that old boy recently though, who stabbed a gypsy to death who broke into his house, and the old guy wasn't prosecuted.

Indeed, the old Obscene Publications Squad would until well into the 1990's seize porn magazines in ridiculous raids on newsagents/distribution warehouses & there was no real definition of what constituted something being obscene-it was left to 12 members of the public to decide, when they came to court often the juries would see nothing wrong with open leg or sex pictures, while another jury might think it was obscene if you had Mary Whitehouse types serving & a conviction would happen.

Only if you are related to the Queen.

Really bro. Really?

This is the scenario you conjure up... you think people in America are just mowing down their neighbors kids when they jump the fence to retrieve their ball? Holy delusion.

If someone breaks into my home in the middle of the night(or whenever)... I am shooting them. There will be no words discussed or warning... their warning will be chambering a round into my glock.

Guns aren't really a big issue in the UK. Knife crime, different story. Has a lot to do with sentencing imo.

Illegal firearm possession = mandatory 5 year sentence.

In comparison if you get caught with a knife you'll usually get community service or a fine. Or 6 months (repeat offender or threatening).

All you gotta do is go to Abdullah Achmed Kahns bodyshop and tell him you're looking for a pew pew pew. If you're trusted you'll be sold a gun. If you're not, you'll be the top video on pornhubs gay page.

You are thinking with an American mentality though. The dangers that are likely commonplace to you very rarely happen here and if they do it's a huge deal. Even taking threats from humans out of the picture, you have animals capable of killing you. You would really have to put in some work to get yourself shot or eaten by something in the UK.

Damn so you’re saying that if you make all weapons illegal, the criminals will still use them?

This is like the copypasta American response when we point out how all your freedoms are restricted.. ‘we did it anyway’

The problem with that, which you quaintly miss, is that we of course do all of those things earlier than we are allowed to anyway, so we’re still freer than you however you slice it.

In fact, I’d bet you money on it, but you could only take the bet with Mo at the cabstand and I don’t want you to mix with nefarious characters

The intelligent Brits left that **** hole long ago and derived what is now a better version in every way.

Enjoy your busted women, bland food, and 300 gloomy days a year clown.