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Originally Posted By AngryBaby⏩
when did I say the CDC is classifying 'every death as COVID'?didn't see your post, reading the link now. looking for the specifics of when the cdc said they are classifying every death as COVID. not finding it, but i'll look harder.
maybe you could highlight it for everyone here to see,
I'd love to see those exact words verbatim here in this thread for us all to assess
maybe you could highlight it for everyone here to see,
I'd love to see those exact words verbatim here in this thread for us all to assess
8000 americans die a day. that would put the total deaths at over 500k if that was the case.
I said there are two major issues with the numbers: 1. CDC does not require a positive test to count a death as corona, so long as the symptoms appear similar. as we know of course, respiratory illnesses all share several similarities so it is impossible to know if it's corona.
2. They will count all positive cases even if it's blatantly obvious that it was not the cause of death. For example, I linked an article to how washington counted 4 gun deaths to corona.
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Originally Posted By TheOriginalBIG⏩
I don't care about the masks, I care about my gym not being open.I never knew so many people would be triggered over a piece of fabric before I came on the misc lmao, sounds like a bunch of snowflakes tbh
But of course you wouldn't understand that cause you're a Timmy so picture your mom locking up your PS4.
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That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.Originally Posted By Dave22reborn^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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Originally Posted By Aussie939291⏩
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.”Just wear a mask, how hard is it you contrarian cuck.
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Originally Posted By AngryBaby⏩
how do you feel about the CDC's death rate?nobody provided any objective proof that it is entirely inflated, AND REGARDLESS that doesn't negate any of the precautions taken regarding covid even IF the numbers were 20k less (which hasn't been proven)
please stop avoiding this.
according to the CDC, who you hold in VERY HIGH REGARD, the death rate is less than the flu if you are under 50. if you are under 30 you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning than dying of corona.
considering the above, do you feel that the lockdown is justified?
05-23-2020, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene⏩
before I go into the verbage and the strawmanswhen did I say the CDC is classifying 'every death as COVID'?
8000 americans die a day. that would put the total deaths at over 500k if that was the case.
I said there are two major issues with the numbers: 1. CDC does not require a positive test to count a death as corona, so long as the symptoms appear similar. as we know of course, respiratory illnesses all share several similarities so it is impossible to know if it's corona.
2. They will count all positive cases even if it's blatantly obvious that it was not the cause of death. For example, I linked an article to how washington counted 4 gun deaths to corona.
8000 americans die a day. that would put the total deaths at over 500k if that was the case.
I said there are two major issues with the numbers: 1. CDC does not require a positive test to count a death as corona, so long as the symptoms appear similar. as we know of course, respiratory illnesses all share several similarities so it is impossible to know if it's corona.
2. They will count all positive cases even if it's blatantly obvious that it was not the cause of death. For example, I linked an article to how washington counted 4 gun deaths to corona.
what would be your estimate of actual covid deaths then? and by your standards how many would be "required"for a lockdown? you see how this is gonna get stupid?
even if the numbers were at 60k, it still did what the flu did in a year, in 3 months....during a lockdown. with no vaccine. so how low do youthinkthese numbers are?
Originally Posted By Polaris;1606964451lmaoSociology isn't a "science" btw.
05-23-2020, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
You say this as if you're viewing the issue from a sound perspective of logic. Why don't you factor in the fact that no science supports the nothion of masks doing anything? Unless you're wearing N-95 masks properly fitted and disposing of them after one use, your mask does nothing to prevent the spread of the tiny COVID virus.you cant reason with these people, its like trying to make a liberal understand how stupid they are
they need to get sick and die or have someone close get sick and die
its just the way some people are
they need to get sick and die or have someone close get sick and die
its just the way some people are
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. When you fart, why does it stink up the entire surrounding area despite said fart having to travel through both your underwear and pants? Because cloth does nothing to stop aerosolized particles. Same thing appllies to half asssed masks and stopping a tiny virus. The masks will only stop giant droplets from actively cougbing/sneezing people, in which case they shouldn't be out in the first place during a pandemic.
05-23-2020, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
My last neg of the day, another Misc. infectious disease expert, meanwhile I'm dealing with the real thing and CDC and DOH and Governor's Orders FFS.Being forced to wear masks robs people of their identities.....
So yes, the masks requirements are pure bullchit. No science has ever supported the idea of using them beyond how I described. The cloth masks are especially bad. Trying to stop COVID with a cloth mask is like trying to catch a golfball with a basketball hoop.
So yes, the masks requirements are pure bullchit. No science has ever supported the idea of using them beyond how I described. The cloth masks are especially bad. Trying to stop COVID with a cloth mask is like trying to catch a golfball with a basketball hoop.
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05-23-2020, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted By northernlights7⏩
I'd be very surprised if twiddle dee or twiddle dumb acknowledge that post.You say this as if you're viewing the issue from a sound perspective of logic. Why don't you factor in the fact that no science supports the nothion of masks doing anything? Unless you're wearing N-95 masks properly fitted and disposing of them after one use, your mask does nothing to prevent the spread of the tiny COVID virus.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. When you fart, why does it stink up the entire surrounding area despite said fart having to travel through both your underwear and pants? Because cloth does nothing to stop aerosolized particles. Same thing appllies to half asssed masks and stopping a tiny virus. The masks will only stop giant droplets from actively cougbing/sneezing people, in which case they shouldn't be out in the first place during a pandemic.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. When you fart, why does it stink up the entire surrounding area despite said fart having to travel through both your underwear and pants? Because cloth does nothing to stop aerosolized particles. Same thing appllies to half asssed masks and stopping a tiny virus. The masks will only stop giant droplets from actively cougbing/sneezing people, in which case they shouldn't be out in the first place during a pandemic.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.
That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.Originally Posted By Dave22reborn^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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Originally Posted By AngryBaby⏩
That's a bit of a deflection. The point is ... it should be up to me to decide. AND ifyoudisagree with my choice then avoid me, avoid places i visit, vote with your feet, close your business to me (if you own one and disagree with my choice).same to you OP, would you wear a mask if it was airborne ebola
It's just a mask... RIIIIGHT. That's why there are all kinds of reports of arrests, fines, people losing their livelihoods, business getting slapped with huge fines for opening, etc. Give and inch and these power hungry people take a mile. EVERY FKN TIME.
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Originally Posted By AngryBaby⏩
answer the damn question...why do you keep avoiding it?before I go into the verbage and the strawmans
what would be your estimate of actual covid deaths then? and by your standards how many would be "required"for a lockdown? you see how this is gonna get stupid?
even if the numbers were at 60k, it still did what the flu did in a year, in 3 months....during a lockdown. with no vaccine. so how low do youthinkthese numbers are?
what would be your estimate of actual covid deaths then? and by your standards how many would be "required"for a lockdown? you see how this is gonna get stupid?
even if the numbers were at 60k, it still did what the flu did in a year, in 3 months....during a lockdown. with no vaccine. so how low do youthinkthese numbers are?
why are you so mentally and emotionally invested in bad news? shouldn't you be happy that the death rate is so low? most normal people upon hearing that this 'pandemic' is actually less deadly than the flu would celebrate. why are you denying and ignoring the good news instead of being happy?
05-23-2020, 12:19 AM
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Masks don't do anything unless you have it.
And if that's the case you shouldn't be walking around anyways.
Hence masks are actually useless.
And if that's the case you shouldn't be walking around anyways.
Hence masks are actually useless.
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05-23-2020, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene⏩
even if I granted you 40k deaths OFF, we would be at 50k deaths during a lockdown.how do you feel about the CDC's death rate?
please stop avoiding this.
according to the CDC, who you hold in VERY HIGH REGARD, the death rate is less than the flu if you are under 50. if you are under 30 you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning than dying of corona.
considering the above, do you feel that the lockdown is justified?
please stop avoiding this.
according to the CDC, who you hold in VERY HIGH REGARD, the death rate is less than the flu if you are under 50. if you are under 30 you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning than dying of corona.
considering the above, do you feel that the lockdown is justified?
and I'm not even conceding those numbers are entirely inaccurate. I read that they list pre-existing issues but if signs point to covid/testing point to covid then they will list covid. but this isn't even the point
say I give you 40k deaths off, okay we're at 50k in 3 months. what umber is "good enough" to lock-down dude lol.
Originally Posted By Polaris;1606964451lmaoSociology isn't a "science" btw.
05-23-2020, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene⏩
You *******s make it too easy. Clearly, you tried to use this article to support your narrative.here's a link to the gun deaths called corona:
https://komonews.com/news/local/stat...rcounted-in-wa
"We currently do have some deaths that are being reported that are clearly from other causes. We have about 5 deaths less than 5 deaths that we know of that are related to obvious other causes. In this case, they are from gunshot wounds," Hutchison said.
https://komonews.com/news/local/stat...rcounted-in-wa
"We currently do have some deaths that are being reported that are clearly from other causes. We have about 5 deaths less than 5 deaths that we know of that are related to obvious other causes. In this case, they are from gunshot wounds," Hutchison said.
Actual article title: COVID-19-related deaths likely being undercounted in WA
the article goes on to say:
Not included in the state’s COVID-19 death count is approximately 3,000 cases where the person’s death certificate indicated symptoms similar to COVID-19, but it’s not clear if COVID-19 actually played a role in the person’s death, Hutchison said.
"We suspect that we are actually more likely to be undercounting deaths than overcounting them," Hutchison told reporters.
"We suspect that we are actually more likely to be undercounting deaths than overcounting them," Hutchison told reporters.
Your schtick sucks and it screams insecurity.
05-23-2020, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted By CrookedDink⏩
I'm in agreement with your mask sentiments. However, you don't seem to be congruent here. Should still be up the the individual whether they wear a seatbelt or not without compliance through ticket/fine.False equivalence. Cars are far more dangerous than covid-19 to the average person. Driving is a privilege not a right.
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene⏩
I did, look up. but that question has a point, that there is no point in your stance. at all.answer the damn question...why do you keep avoiding it?
why are you so mentally and emotionally invested in bad news? shouldn't you be happy that the death rate is so low? most normal people upon hearing that this 'pandemic' is actually less deadly than the flu would celebrate. why are you denying and ignoring the good news instead of being happy?
why are you so mentally and emotionally invested in bad news? shouldn't you be happy that the death rate is so low? most normal people upon hearing that this 'pandemic' is actually less deadly than the flu would celebrate. why are you denying and ignoring the good news instead of being happy?
I even mock "conceded" and gave you 40k deaths off. now what. 50k in 3 months
Originally Posted By Polaris;1606964451lmaoSociology isn't a "science" btw.
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene⏩
Because he's most likely been all-in with the fear mongering and feels the need to make a "last stand" against looking like a complete idiot.answer the damn question...why do you keep avoiding it?
why are you so mentally and emotionally invested in bad news? shouldn't you be happy that the death rate is so low? most normal people upon hearing that this 'pandemic' is actually less deadly than the flu would celebrate. why are you denying and ignoring the good news instead of being happy?
why are you so mentally and emotionally invested in bad news? shouldn't you be happy that the death rate is so low? most normal people upon hearing that this 'pandemic' is actually less deadly than the flu would celebrate. why are you denying and ignoring the good news instead of being happy?
Dude needs to learn when to hold'em and when to fold'em.
Nothing cool or respectable about going down with a sinking ship just cause your ego won't let you admit you were wrong the whole time.
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That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.Originally Posted By Dave22reborn^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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Originally Posted By digital022⏩
LMAO look at this flaming **** flying in...of course the headline is going to say that. it's a corporate media headline. they have a 'new normal' agenda to push, you kuntyYou *******s make it too easy. Clearly, you tried to use this article to support your narrative.
Actual article title: COVID-19-related deaths likely being undercounted in WA
the article goes on to say:
Actual article title: COVID-19-related deaths likely being undercounted in WA
the article goes on to say:
soyboy. all news is bad news until they are done doing what they need to do.
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Originally Posted By digital022⏩
thank you, sucks you had to find that. but i just thought the concept of the argument was stupid lolYou *******s make it too easy. Clearly, you tried to use this article to support your narrative.
Actual article title: COVID-19-related deaths likely being undercounted in WA
the article goes on to say:
Actual article title: COVID-19-related deaths likely being undercounted in WA
the article goes on to say:
Originally Posted By Polaris;1606964451lmaoSociology isn't a "science" btw.
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Originally Posted By AngryBaby⏩
where did you answer the question about the death rate being less than the flu?I did, look up. but that question has a point, that there is no point in your stance. at all.
I even mock "conceded" and gave you 40k deaths off. now what. 50k in 3 months
I even mock "conceded" and gave you 40k deaths off. now what. 50k in 3 months
I don't see it
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene⏩
and I dont care about emotions, I care about truth. it's why im not religious.answer the damn question...why do you keep avoiding it?
why are you so mentally and emotionally invested in bad news? shouldn't you be happy that the death rate is so low? most normal people upon hearing that this 'pandemic' is actually less deadly than the flu would celebrate. why are you denying and ignoring the good news instead of being happy?
why are you so mentally and emotionally invested in bad news? shouldn't you be happy that the death rate is so low? most normal people upon hearing that this 'pandemic' is actually less deadly than the flu would celebrate. why are you denying and ignoring the good news instead of being happy?
Originally Posted By MitchGreene⏩
"according to the CDC, who you hold in VERY HIGH REGARD, the death rate is less than the flu if you are under 50. if you are under 30 you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning than dying of corona.where did you answer the question about the death rate being less than the flu?
I don't see it
I don't see it
considering the above, do you feel that the lockdown is justified?"
because under 50, under 30, over 30, over 50 is pretty....irrelevant to me when we're talking about...numbers of deaths... sorry.a-am I crazy for feeling that way?
Nor is it impossible for young people to contract the disease, ask brazil
Originally Posted By Polaris;1606964451lmaoSociology isn't a "science" btw.
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What's funny is show them an article saying Covid deaths are likely being unaccounted for and they're ready to go to war.
Tell them how actual doctors are saying Covid death numbers are being falsified and exaggerated and they want: the original document, the author, the surveillance tape, fingerprints, five eye witness testimonials and a blessing from The Pope.
True mark of an idiot right there.
Tell them how actual doctors are saying Covid death numbers are being falsified and exaggerated and they want: the original document, the author, the surveillance tape, fingerprints, five eye witness testimonials and a blessing from The Pope.
True mark of an idiot right there.
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.
That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.Originally Posted By Dave22reborn^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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Originally Posted By faxanadu⏩
Again, it comes down to rights vs privileges. I can't fly an airplane without training, nor can I drive without a seatbelt.I'm in agreement with your mask sentiments. However, you don't seem to be congruent here. Should still be up the the individual whether they wear a seatbelt or not without compliance through ticket/fine.
Not being forced to wear a mask, burka, star of david ... is a constitutional right.
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Originally Posted By AngryBaby⏩
No, you care more about appealing to authority than the actual truth.and I dont care about emotions, I care about truth. it's why im not religious.
"according to the CDC, who you hold in VERY HIGH REGARD, the death rate is less than the flu if you are under 50. if you are under 30 you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning than dying of corona.
considering the above, do you feel that the lockdown is justified?"
because under 50, under 30, over 30, over 50 is pretty....irrelevant to me when we're talking about...numbers of deaths... sorry.a-am I crazy for feeling that way?
Nor is it impossible for young people to contract the disease, ask brazil
"according to the CDC, who you hold in VERY HIGH REGARD, the death rate is less than the flu if you are under 50. if you are under 30 you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning than dying of corona.
considering the above, do you feel that the lockdown is justified?"
because under 50, under 30, over 30, over 50 is pretty....irrelevant to me when we're talking about...numbers of deaths... sorry.a-am I crazy for feeling that way?
Nor is it impossible for young people to contract the disease, ask brazil
The billionaire and the beggar both have 24 hours in a day.
That's why grandma's apple pie rocks and yours sucks.Originally Posted By Dave22reborn^^^Racist police officer who also cries about how racism doesn't exist, also cries reverse racism and typifies the stupidity of the racist right, referring to black people as "they" and regurgitating racist stereotypes.At least it will thunderstorm tonight, and we know how they feel about water. :)
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
did you not see the information going in the other direction? did you skip that?What's funny is show them an article saying Covid deaths are likely being unaccounted for and they're ready to go to war.
Tell them how actual doctors are saying Covid death numbers are being falsified and exaggerated and they want: the original document, the author, the surveillance tape, fingerprints, five eye witness testimonials and a blessing from The Pope.
True mark of an idiot right there.
Tell them how actual doctors are saying Covid death numbers are being falsified and exaggerated and they want: the original document, the author, the surveillance tape, fingerprints, five eye witness testimonials and a blessing from The Pope.
True mark of an idiot right there.
and what about me mock conceding and giving you 40k deaths off? what number is good enough for a lockdown lol im asking you? how low do YOU think the numbers actually are?
Originally Posted By Polaris;1606964451lmaoSociology isn't a "science" btw.
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Originally Posted By AngryBaby⏩
you are so programmed it would take hours to de-program you.even if I granted you 40k deaths OFF, we would be at 50k deaths during a lockdown.
and I'm not even conceding those numbers are entirely inaccurate. I read that they list pre-existing issues but if signs point to covid/testing point to covid then they will list covid. but this isn't even the point
say I give you 40k deaths off, okay we're at 50k in 3 months. what umber is "good enough" to lock-down dude lol.
and I'm not even conceding those numbers are entirely inaccurate. I read that they list pre-existing issues but if signs point to covid/testing point to covid then they will list covid. but this isn't even the point
say I give you 40k deaths off, okay we're at 50k in 3 months. what umber is "good enough" to lock-down dude lol.
1. Lockdowns DO NOT SAVE LIVES. That is a lie. Every country, every state has more or less followed the same graph for corona, regardless of when they locked down, if they locked down or how strict the lockdown was. Corona peaked over a month ago and then began falling everywhere.
If lockdowns saved lives, then why has Georgia and Florida rates and deaths fallen SINCE REOPENING? Wouldn't 'lockdowns saves lives' logic hold that the rates should shoot up again???
2. Lockdowns KILL huge amounts of people to non corona. There will be significantly more deaths as a result of the lockdown than corona. Massive numbers of cancer related deaths due to lack of available treatment. Huge increase in deaths from suicide, poverty etc..
130 million extra people could be on the brink of starvation globally due to the lockdowns.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u...nturn-n1189326
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Originally Posted By MBisonSon⏩
lol right, my black ass loves me some american authority. you sound crazy.No, you care more about appealing to authority than the actual truth.
if anything I'm going against what the majority govt is thinking right now lmao thats whats hilarious
Originally Posted By Polaris;1606964451lmaoSociology isn't a "science" btw.
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene⏩
you haven't heard about Sweden have youyou are so programmed it would take hours to de-program you.
1. Lockdowns DO NOT SAVE LIVES. That is a lie. Every country, every state has more or less followed the same graph for corona, regardless of when they locked down, if they locked down or how strict the lockdown was. Corona peaked over a month ago and then began falling everywhere.
If lockdowns saved lives, then why has Georgia and Florida rates and deaths fallen SINCE REOPENING? Wouldn't 'lockdowns saves lives' logic hold that the rates should shoot up again???
2. Lockdowns KILL huge amounts of people to non corona. There will be significantly more deaths as a result of the lockdown than corona. Massive numbers of cancer related deaths due to lack of available treatment. Huge increase in deaths from suicide, poverty etc..
130 million extra people could be on the brink of starvation globally due to the lockdowns.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u...nturn-n1189326
1. Lockdowns DO NOT SAVE LIVES. That is a lie. Every country, every state has more or less followed the same graph for corona, regardless of when they locked down, if they locked down or how strict the lockdown was. Corona peaked over a month ago and then began falling everywhere.
If lockdowns saved lives, then why has Georgia and Florida rates and deaths fallen SINCE REOPENING? Wouldn't 'lockdowns saves lives' logic hold that the rates should shoot up again???
2. Lockdowns KILL huge amounts of people to non corona. There will be significantly more deaths as a result of the lockdown than corona. Massive numbers of cancer related deaths due to lack of available treatment. Huge increase in deaths from suicide, poverty etc..
130 million extra people could be on the brink of starvation globally due to the lockdowns.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u...nturn-n1189326
Originally Posted By Polaris;1606964451lmaoSociology isn't a "science" btw.
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Originally Posted By AngryBaby⏩
If the government with all its power and influence can't make an argument convincing enough to get most people to voluntary wear a mask... that is enough to be very suspect of their intentions.if it was an airborne ebola like illness, the government...a society, would be fools for not mandating universal precautions. letting you have you're selfish sense of "freedom" would put the society as a whole in danger. Stop being obtuse to simply win the argument.
Are you a virologist? Have you studied the virus? Have you quadruple checked the info that is being thrust on you? Have you specifically studied this virus? Can you even prove its existence? What is it that you actually know and can prove in this case?
^^Take all that and multiple it by tens of millions of people. All adopting a stance... and taking various sides... by appealing to authority. It's pretty interesting that all this freedom stripping and authoritarianism is based on something that you can't see with your own eyes, and that very few people on this planet have the means to verify.
I've seen some of the nastiest chit spewed between "once" friends on social media in the last few months ... and none of these people "actually" know what they're talking about. They're all making judgements based off some chit they heard someone in a fancy positions with a few fancy titles next to their name say. Pretty damned frightening if you ask me. Shows how vulnerable our society is to any person or group of persons that wanted to be truly nefarious.
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Originally Posted By MitchGreene⏩
Stats and links of peace and prosperity. More baseless claims.you are so programmed it would take hours to de-program you.
1. Lockdowns DO NOT SAVE LIVES. That is a lie. Every country, every state has more or less followed the same graph for corona, regardless of when they locked down, if they locked down or how strict the lockdown was. Corona peaked over a month ago and then began falling everywhere.
If lockdowns saved lives, then why has Georgia and Florida rates and deaths fallen SINCE REOPENING? Wouldn't 'lockdowns saves lives' logic hold that the rates should shoot up again???
2. Lockdowns KILL huge amounts of people to non corona. There will be significantly more deaths as a result of the lockdown than corona. Massive numbers of cancer related deaths due to lack of available treatment. Huge increase in deaths from suicide, poverty etc..
130 million extra people could be on the brink of starvation globally due to the lockdowns.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u...nturn-n1189326
1. Lockdowns DO NOT SAVE LIVES. That is a lie. Every country, every state has more or less followed the same graph for corona, regardless of when they locked down, if they locked down or how strict the lockdown was. Corona peaked over a month ago and then began falling everywhere.
If lockdowns saved lives, then why has Georgia and Florida rates and deaths fallen SINCE REOPENING? Wouldn't 'lockdowns saves lives' logic hold that the rates should shoot up again???
2. Lockdowns KILL huge amounts of people to non corona. There will be significantly more deaths as a result of the lockdown than corona. Massive numbers of cancer related deaths due to lack of available treatment. Huge increase in deaths from suicide, poverty etc..
130 million extra people could be on the brink of starvation globally due to the lockdowns.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u...nturn-n1189326
NYC Mayor and Gov. acknowledge the death toll would be 20K less if the lockdowns were enacted sooner. I remember Cuomo saying there is no way NYC could shut down at the time. You have no idea how pandemics spread lol
https://www.politico.com/states/new-...report-1285383
Your schtick sucks and it screams insecurity.
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