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Updated report: George Floyd was on drugs (!!!)
Updated report: George Floyd was on drugs (!!!)
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Originally Posted By TightBHole⏩
Thanks Hamburger brah, louder for the ones in the back.Hi! I work in law enforcement! (Corrections, but it still counts, god dammit)
Someone being intoxicated during arrest does not absolve the primary officer from the duty to preserve life. You might have a bit of leeway if he was high on PCP and resisting arrest, but (from what I can tell) that wasn't the case. He was clearly submissive for close to 10 minutes of recorded footage. The fact that he was on meth and ******** (which makes zero sense) or that he was a prior felon or was in porn is irrelevant. The cop did a sh*tty job and killed the guy, and given the amount of scrutiny these days, especially when dealing with black people, is justifiably worthy of people being pissed off.
The "people who disagree with me are trolls or retards" or "I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING RACIST! YOU'RE PROJECTING!" is nonsense.
Someone being intoxicated during arrest does not absolve the primary officer from the duty to preserve life. You might have a bit of leeway if he was high on PCP and resisting arrest, but (from what I can tell) that wasn't the case. He was clearly submissive for close to 10 minutes of recorded footage. The fact that he was on meth and ******** (which makes zero sense) or that he was a prior felon or was in porn is irrelevant. The cop did a sh*tty job and killed the guy, and given the amount of scrutiny these days, especially when dealing with black people, is justifiably worthy of people being pissed off.
The "people who disagree with me are trolls or retards" or "I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING RACIST! YOU'RE PROJECTING!" is nonsense.
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Originally Posted By TightBHole⏩
'some people see "drugs" and simply die on that hill.Hi! I work in law enforcement! (Corrections, but it still counts, god dammit)
Someone being intoxicated during arrest does not absolve the primary officer from the duty to preserve life. You might have a bit of leeway if he was high on PCP and resisting arrest, but (from what I can tell) that wasn't the case. He was clearly submissive for close to 10 minutes of recorded footage. The fact that he was on meth and ******** (which makes zero sense) or that he was a prior felon or was in porn is irrelevant. The cop did a sh*tty job and killed the guy, and given the amount of scrutiny these days, especially when dealing with black people, is justifiably worthy of people being pissed off.
The "people who disagree with me are trolls or retards" or "I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING RACIST! YOU'RE PROJECTING!" is nonsense.
Someone being intoxicated during arrest does not absolve the primary officer from the duty to preserve life. You might have a bit of leeway if he was high on PCP and resisting arrest, but (from what I can tell) that wasn't the case. He was clearly submissive for close to 10 minutes of recorded footage. The fact that he was on meth and ******** (which makes zero sense) or that he was a prior felon or was in porn is irrelevant. The cop did a sh*tty job and killed the guy, and given the amount of scrutiny these days, especially when dealing with black people, is justifiably worthy of people being pissed off.
The "people who disagree with me are trolls or retards" or "I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING RACIST! YOU'RE PROJECTING!" is nonsense.
mind you the killing of Philando Castille, who was a lawful gun owner, saw the officer's defense rest in large part on the argument that Castille was a terrible person for smoking weed as a father. it ****ing worked.
As a man of color, what I will tell my kids is this- don't put yourself in situation where bad things can happen to you. Don't walk down an alley at 2am wearing mini skirt, don't broke the law and be confronted by police. When of these things, the chance something bad can happen to you exponentially increase.
and people sworn to serve and protect should, you know, be held to account if they do the opposite of that. which is the entirety of the problem.Go Canucks Go!
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06-01-2020, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Bcl2⏩
Lol beat me to itOkay, thanks for letting us know. He was still murdered in broad daylight.
Why are some of you trying to marginalize his death because of drugs in his system?
Also, what does drugs have to do with him dying? The drugs weren't the cause of his death.
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he still like...killed the guy though. and even if he was on meth he wasn't resisting. we all saw the vid.
I'm not saying this to condone rioting, and this is my first post about george. but to act like it still isn't murder is crazy...
let me guess...AngryBaby is beng a black apologist again bc his Avi is black and this is a race war and he's on the other side lol
you guys really want to dminish this with anything and it's making me feel like whites got a problem with us
I'm not saying this to condone rioting, and this is my first post about george. but to act like it still isn't murder is crazy...
let me guess...AngryBaby is beng a black apologist again bc his Avi is black and this is a race war and he's on the other side lol
you guys really want to dminish this with anything and it's making me feel like whites got a problem with us
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06-01-2020, 08:54 PM
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am I really gonna read through 3 pages of MISCers not knowing the difference between murder and manslaughter/failure to render aid?
relevant time stamp = 5:20
Originally Posted By AngryBaby⏩
He was compliant up until he got to the cop car where he threw himself on the ground...resisting arrest.he still like...killed the guy though. and even if he was on meth he wasn't resisting. we all saw the vid.
relevant time stamp = 5:20
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Mlk's time was in the 1960s, violence was justified in those times. Black people were treated as subhuman in those years. This is 2020, yes there is racism, yes there is injustice still , but it is nothing like 1960s. What is there to understand about stealing big screen tvs and mac makeup? There is nothing to understand about that.Never once did I say I'm for the violence, in fact numerous times I've stated I don't agree with the looting and everything else... but I'm under the same assumption as MLK that I understand it
At least rolex gucci etc if they can resell, those can pay rent for a few months.
06-01-2020, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
You’ve been constantly race baiting and I haven’t seen you once express your discontent for the riots. Your stance on them is not a mysteryLol that statement is 100% fact. This nationWAS FORMEDbecause of rioting that led to an eventually revolution and war.
But even then...... none of what I put says that I'm for violence.
But even then...... none of what I put says that I'm for violence.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
"A career criminal and drug addict was wrongly killed by a reckless cop during an arrest for passing counterfeit money."Agreed.
And this cop be criminally liable for his death, but canonizing George Floyd like hid Martin Luther King isn't necessary.
Here is the accurate headline
A career criminal and drug addict was wrongly killed by a reckless cop during an arrest for passing counterfeit money.
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As a man of color, what I will tell my kids is this- don't put yourself in situation where bad things can happen to you. Don't walk down an alley at 2am wearing mini skirt, don't broke the law and be confronted by police. When of these things, the chance something bad can happen to you exponentially increase.
And this cop be criminally liable for his death, but canonizing George Floyd like hid Martin Luther King isn't necessary.
Here is the accurate headline
A career criminal and drug addict was wrongly killed by a reckless cop during an arrest for passing counterfeit money.
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As a man of color, what I will tell my kids is this- don't put yourself in situation where bad things can happen to you. Don't walk down an alley at 2am wearing mini skirt, don't broke the law and be confronted by police. When of these things, the chance something bad can happen to you exponentially increase.
This is the true, accurate timeline.
Two wrongs don't make a right, but everything is about race / gender / politics nowadays that it evolved into what we have now.
06-01-2020, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Of course it's still homicide.All I cared about with this report was they left that manner of death toHomocide
The family already had world famous ME take a look and described it differently
Dr. Michael Baden, renowned medical examiner, on George Floyd's: The autopsy shows that Floyd has no underlying health problem that contributed to his death.
"He was in good health," Baden said. "The cause of death is asphyxia compression of the neck and back."
The family already had world famous ME take a look and described it differently
Dr. Michael Baden, renowned medical examiner, on George Floyd's: The autopsy shows that Floyd has no underlying health problem that contributed to his death.
"He was in good health," Baden said. "The cause of death is asphyxia compression of the neck and back."
Doesn't sound like he was in good health though, even if he wasn't abusing hard drugs
Originally Posted By Maestro⏩
Not sure if srs. They most likely contributed. Respiratory depression is a major side effect of ******** and he died of asphyxiation (or something similar)Lol beat me to it
Why are some of you trying to marginalize his death because of drugs in his system?
Also, what does drugs have to do with him dying? The drugs weren't the cause of his death.
Why are some of you trying to marginalize his death because of drugs in his system?
Also, what does drugs have to do with him dying? The drugs weren't the cause of his death.
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Originally Posted By TheJediBrah⏩
Anyone that does goofballs like he allegedly did isn't in anything remotely close to "good health".Of course it's still homicide.
Doesn't sound like he was in good health though, even if he wasn't abusing hard drugs
Doesn't sound like he was in good health though, even if he wasn't abusing hard drugs
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doesn't it take weeks for toxicology reports?
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All of these can be, and are true simultaneously:
He had a criminal background
He fought with officers/ resisted arrest
He had drugs in his system
Arresting officers had to control him
Once controlled, officer kneeler recklessly kept his knee on dudes neck with pressure
The other 3 officers allowed it to happen
He had a criminal background
He fought with officers/ resisted arrest
He had drugs in his system
Arresting officers had to control him
Once controlled, officer kneeler recklessly kept his knee on dudes neck with pressure
The other 3 officers allowed it to happen
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Originally Posted By roko79⏩
no most can be done in a few hours if urgentdoesn't it take weeks for toxicology reports?
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Originally Posted By roko79⏩
I'm not 100% familiar with the process, but usually law enforcement agencies contract with one or two labs maximum to process their samplings.doesn't it take weeks for toxicology reports?
These labs that they are signed on with contract with potentially many other agencies and there is a large backlog of autopsies to go through before a more recent autopsy gets looked at.
it's possible that due to the nature of the incident and its effects on our country (and other countries worldwide I guess), it was prioritized*.
*source: my ass, fwiw.
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Originally Posted By HomerJThompson⏩
And in 60 years from now people will look back on how we treated "x" and say why the hell did we treat "x" like that? We would never do that now... that's how this thing works.Mlk's time was in the 1960s, violence was justified in those times. Black people were treated as subhuman in those years. This is 2020, yes there is racism, yes there is injustice still , but it is nothing like 1960s. What is there to understand about stealing big screen tvs and mac makeup? There is nothing to understand about that.
At least rolex gucci etc if they can resell, those can pay rent for a few months.
At least rolex gucci etc if they can resell, those can pay rent for a few months.
Rioting was a constant during the Vietnam war and future admins and others were very cautious going forward during the future wars to listen to it's citizens, or at the very least make it seem like they were
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Originally Posted By trippped⏩
In his bloodstream? Lmfao"the police planted it on him! another black man framed by the racist united states!"
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Originally Posted By jesusxchrist⏩
Explain how I'm race baiting? I've stated numerous times I don't agree with the violence, but understand them... If you were confused before, now you have my stance for your own eyesYou’ve been constantly race baiting and I haven’t seen you once express your discontent for the riots. Your stance on them is not a mystery
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
Everyone understands them. It's not a mystery. People are morons, gullible, racist, and opportunisticExplain how I'm race baiting? I've stated numerous times I don't agree with the violence,but understand them... If you were confused before, now you have my stance for your own eyes
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Originally Posted By HouseOfISRAEL⏩
no it just saying that he was just another druggie low life with a rap sheet. Not exactly a law abiding citzen.He was in drugs, so he deserved to die?
So all the white heroin users deserve the same huh *******?
Didn’t think so
White right wingers are some of the biggest hypocrites
When it comes to your cousins on opioids, you want them in rehab and they’re “good kids” but George Floyd deserved to die?
This is why your women hate you and are revolting against you
So all the white heroin users deserve the same huh *******?
Didn’t think so
White right wingers are some of the biggest hypocrites
When it comes to your cousins on opioids, you want them in rehab and they’re “good kids” but George Floyd deserved to die?
This is why your women hate you and are revolting against you
Although that doesnt excuse the cops actions he should face the law.
lol getting insecure about our women leaving us.
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Dude was unlawfully killed whilst defenceless.
Being a drug addict doesn't mean you deserve to have your neck knee-pressed for 8 minutes by some power tripping psycho, who should be helping you. Anything less than serious jail time for that incompetent chitbrain would just be a further tragedy.
Being a drug addict doesn't mean you deserve to have your neck knee-pressed for 8 minutes by some power tripping psycho, who should be helping you. Anything less than serious jail time for that incompetent chitbrain would just be a further tragedy.
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
I am the OP. I said "still" because this is the county ME report versus prior report from the city ME. So no, your assumption was wrong.That is literally the point of this thread. The way OP said cause of death “still” listed as homicide suggests he thinks the drugs mean otherwise.
He didn’t come out and directly say it, but that is the message. Don’t be naive dude. That is exactly the message.
If not, we agree and no problem.
He didn’t come out and directly say it, but that is the message. Don’t be naive dude. That is exactly the message.
If not, we agree and no problem.
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
homicide is the cause of death, but it wasn’t murder. Murder is criminal homicide.All I cared about with this report was they left that manner of death toHomocide
The family already had world famous ME take a look and described it differently
Dr. Michael Baden, renowned medical examiner, on George Floyd's: The autopsy shows that Floyd has no underlying health problem that contributed to his death.
"He was in good health," Baden said. "The cause of death is asphyxia compression of the neck and back."
The family already had world famous ME take a look and described it differently
Dr. Michael Baden, renowned medical examiner, on George Floyd's: The autopsy shows that Floyd has no underlying health problem that contributed to his death.
"He was in good health," Baden said. "The cause of death is asphyxia compression of the neck and back."
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Well saidAgreed.
And this cop should be criminally liable for his death, but canonizing George Floyd like hid Martin Luther King isn't necessary.
Here is the accurate headline
A career criminal and drug addict was wrongly killed by a reckless cop during an arrest for passing counterfeit money.
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As a man of color, what I will tell my kids is this- don't put yourself in situation where bad things can happen to you. Don't walk down an alley at 2am wearing mini skirt, don't broke the law and be confronted by police. When of these things, the chance something bad can happen to you exponentially increase.
And this cop should be criminally liable for his death, but canonizing George Floyd like hid Martin Luther King isn't necessary.
Here is the accurate headline
A career criminal and drug addict was wrongly killed by a reckless cop during an arrest for passing counterfeit money.
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As a man of color, what I will tell my kids is this- don't put yourself in situation where bad things can happen to you. Don't walk down an alley at 2am wearing mini skirt, don't broke the law and be confronted by police. When of these things, the chance something bad can happen to you exponentially increase.
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This is not what the people want to hear! Someone quickly post the picture of him holding the child
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I don't care if he smoked crack for breakfast every morning, that doesn't make it OK for LEOs to choke him to death in the street.
Also there is a vast amount of hypocrisy about drugs. Most of the entire world's adult population gets some kind of drug buzz going now and again, but someone is automatically deemed a criminal degenerate if they use the wrong kind of drug.
Also there is a vast amount of hypocrisy about drugs. Most of the entire world's adult population gets some kind of drug buzz going now and again, but someone is automatically deemed a criminal degenerate if they use the wrong kind of drug.
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wonder if there wouldve been a protest if everyone waited for the autopsy..blame MSM
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Originally Posted By volleys⏩
Closing in on 9 years, so not super long. Most of the junkies doing ******** mix it with heroin or other downers, at the worst it's mixed with coke, but at the end of the day cons doing drugs is different than people getting high on the street. Regardless, dude wasn't exhibiting superhuman strength or psychosis. But boy, he sure deserved to die, amirite brahs???You haven't been working corrections long if you haven't seen people do that.
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