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When is the US going to give the land back to the natives?
08-02-2020, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted By d0pedup⏩
Anyone who thinks reparations will help the black situation in the US needs to do some research on Natives in Canada.im canadian bro
these indian mofo's hav life on easy yet they rather just get drunk and do drugs and complain bout inequality
these indian mofo's hav life on easy yet they rather just get drunk and do drugs and complain bout inequality
They get reparations on steroids, pay zero taxes (which is an absolutely insane competitive advantage to have alone), and still do **** all with their lives over 95% of the time.
And no, they don't typically grow up on reservations. Many grew up in my same neighbourhood. Several hundred thousand dollars at age 18, free everything that's government provided, no taxes, and so on.
And then dumb asses from elsewhere have the nerve to say that Natives up here are mistreated.
08-02-2020, 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted By propreffered7⏩
I get you there. That is what my first post ITT was about. (Asking him if this was his whole thing now). He has been fixated and fascinating on modern US hegemony (only from the negative perspective). So I understand focusing on the opposite aspects of it to counteract them.it's because they try to confine it to a certain demographic. their (people like op) point is that whites (europeans in op's example) did it to indians
they are not saying the act is despicable or that the act itself is unjust. i would agree with that, though it may be necessary sometimes. however, they (people like op), are saying that whites did the atrocities to X and deserve retribution
so the counter to that is that every color has had injustices against them
they are not saying the act is despicable or that the act itself is unjust. i would agree with that, though it may be necessary sometimes. however, they (people like op), are saying that whites did the atrocities to X and deserve retribution
so the counter to that is that every color has had injustices against them
I just feel compelled to point out the middle ground. Idk, it just helps me feel sane.
None of us did anything wrong to anyone (with regard to the topic), nor have any of us been a victim in this matter. OP does seem to want to try to make us feel bad for it. We shouldn’t.
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08-02-2020, 02:44 AM
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What are they gonna do with it?
Just walk around looking at birds and hunting lunch?
Here's a deal- return it the way it was taken. Knock everything down; destroy all infrastructure_ then ill listen to ****s like op complain they have nowhere to buy their $10 soy latte
Just walk around looking at birds and hunting lunch?
Here's a deal- return it the way it was taken. Knock everything down; destroy all infrastructure_ then ill listen to ****s like op complain they have nowhere to buy their $10 soy latte
08-02-2020, 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
You are absolutely right that 200 years is nothing.Absolutely not. You are talking to a 2 star general here. I am not dumb.
The amount of resources the Americans have conjured up from this stolen land(currently still taking resources), is EXACTLY why you guys are currently one of the world superpowers. Without taking this land from the natives, the American'ts would still be in Europe right waddling in their small territory. You guys would not be relevant at all.
In the timeline of humanity, 200 years is nothing, which is the current age of the States. So just because its been 200 years, doesn't mean it gets passed off just like that. Because guess what, again, yall are still benefiting from THIS LAND.
The amount of resources the Americans have conjured up from this stolen land(currently still taking resources), is EXACTLY why you guys are currently one of the world superpowers. Without taking this land from the natives, the American'ts would still be in Europe right waddling in their small territory. You guys would not be relevant at all.
In the timeline of humanity, 200 years is nothing, which is the current age of the States. So just because its been 200 years, doesn't mean it gets passed off just like that. Because guess what, again, yall are still benefiting from THIS LAND.
Yet here you are posting on an American forum, using currency primarily based on the American dollar, much more engrained in American culture than any other, giving America rent free living space....
And it has only been here for the blink of an eye.
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08-02-2020, 03:23 AM
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I don't know about Taiwan or Tibet, but Hong Kong belongs to China. Britain went to war with China because China didn't want them selling opium to their people. China lost the war, signed a treaty that allowed Britain to take control of Hong Kong for 100 years and I think another 20 years before they make any changes. 100 years was in 1997, another 20 years has already gone by. They actually lived up to the treaty. It's unfortunate for the Chinese that lived all their life in Hong Kong, but Hong Kong does belong to China.Strong reading comprehension.

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08-02-2020, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted By JoshLV⏩
ThisSo if its coming full circle, in that we stole land and the immigrants will then steal land, you won’t mind us defending said land and mowing them down at the border?
When you steal something you still have it earn it usually. Stealing takes work.
So if immigrants want to take their shot, by all means. That’s plenty fair you got that right. Stupid by them, but fair
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08-02-2020, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
200 years?Absolutely not. You are talking to a 2 star general here. I am not dumb.
The amount of resources the Americans have conjured up from this stolen land(currently still taking resources), is EXACTLY why you guys are currently one of the world superpowers. Without taking this land from the natives, the American'ts would still be in Europe right waddling in their small territory. You guys would not be relevant at all.
In the timeline of humanity, 200 years is nothing, which is the current age of the States. So just because its been 200 years, doesn't mean it gets passed off just like that. Because guess what, again, yall are still benefiting from THIS LAND.
The amount of resources the Americans have conjured up from this stolen land(currently still taking resources), is EXACTLY why you guys are currently one of the world superpowers. Without taking this land from the natives, the American'ts would still be in Europe right waddling in their small territory. You guys would not be relevant at all.
In the timeline of humanity, 200 years is nothing, which is the current age of the States. So just because its been 200 years, doesn't mean it gets passed off just like that. Because guess what, again, yall are still benefiting from THIS LAND.
More like 500. The “stealing” started with Columbus in 1492
Settlers like Ponce de Leon and de Soto were attacked and killed in the early going
Anglo-Powhatan wars were full scale happening 100 years later around the 1600s
French Indian war not long after that
You don’t even know history well enough to know when we started “stealing” all these resources. Just shut up
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08-02-2020, 04:59 AM
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08-02-2020, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted By Kokanee⏩
Damn that's crazy. I have no idea if I could get anything different if I actually lived on the rez but as an off the res citizen we get most medical and get in to state parks for free lol. Beyond that I'm not sure what's available down here in the states and most tribes are different.Anyone who thinks reparations will help the black situation in the US needs to do some research on Natives in Canada.
They get reparations on steroids, pay zero taxes (which is an absolutely insane competitive advantage to have alone), and still do **** all with their lives over 95% of the time.
And no, they don't typically grow up on reservations. Many grew up in my same neighbourhood. Several hundred thousand dollars at age 18, free everything that's government provided, no taxes, and so on.
And then dumb asses from elsewhere have the nerve to say that Natives up here are mistreated.
They get reparations on steroids, pay zero taxes (which is an absolutely insane competitive advantage to have alone), and still do **** all with their lives over 95% of the time.
And no, they don't typically grow up on reservations. Many grew up in my same neighbourhood. Several hundred thousand dollars at age 18, free everything that's government provided, no taxes, and so on.
And then dumb asses from elsewhere have the nerve to say that Natives up here are mistreated.
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08-02-2020, 05:08 AM
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i love how retards only apply certain logics to america. every nation on earth was “stolen” at some point to be the country they are today.
the natives werent a single grouo of people. they were many many many different groups of people who were all savagely warring and slaughtering each other for the same land before europeans ever arrived. its just a silly notion to suggest the europeans should be singled out here. they just happened to be superior out of all the other factions and came out on top. get rekt, get over it.
lol just imagine if this land was still owned by “natives”. they would have done literally nothing with it by 2020.
the natives werent a single grouo of people. they were many many many different groups of people who were all savagely warring and slaughtering each other for the same land before europeans ever arrived. its just a silly notion to suggest the europeans should be singled out here. they just happened to be superior out of all the other factions and came out on top. get rekt, get over it.
lol just imagine if this land was still owned by “natives”. they would have done literally nothing with it by 2020.
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08-02-2020, 05:12 AM
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America never acted in unison to steal land. In was certain people who struck deals with them. America acted far more as independent states at the time. It wasn't till the War of 1812 that you started seeing some resemblance of state cohesion. You had a large percentage of people helping them out.
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08-02-2020, 05:13 AM
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You can't give back what was never owned in the first place. Typical human arrogance. Conquest is part of the human condition. I get tired of reading people bitching and moaning about 'stealing land.' That land was here way before we were. One group of people decide to pitch a tent there. Another group of more powerful humans displaces them. Somehow, that amounts to 'stealing land.' This may seem harsh, but the fact that Europeans didn't flat out wipe out all the people in NA is a sign of progress. Look at what genghis khan did.
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What did the Europeans do to acquire the land that was substantively different from what the natives did to acquire it, or the people who controlled it before before them, or the people before them?
These sentiments are just a combination of historical ignorance and anti-white racism.
These sentiments are just a combination of historical ignorance and anti-white racism.
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08-02-2020, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
So? We conquered those who were weak.Absolutely not. You are talking to a 2 star general here. I am not dumb.
The amount of resources the Americans have conjured up from this stolen land(currently still taking resources), is EXACTLY why you guys are currently one of the world superpowers. Without taking this land from the natives, the American'ts would still be in Europe right waddling in their small territory. You guys would not be relevant at all.
In the timeline of humanity, 200 years is nothing, which is the current age of the States. So just because its been 200 years, doesn't mean it gets passed off just like that. Because guess what, again, yall are still benefiting from THIS LAND.
The amount of resources the Americans have conjured up from this stolen land(currently still taking resources), is EXACTLY why you guys are currently one of the world superpowers. Without taking this land from the natives, the American'ts would still be in Europe right waddling in their small territory. You guys would not be relevant at all.
In the timeline of humanity, 200 years is nothing, which is the current age of the States. So just because its been 200 years, doesn't mean it gets passed off just like that. Because guess what, again, yall are still benefiting from THIS LAND.
Take it back if you're strong and deserve it.
If not, stfu
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus⏩
No he isn't. Here's actually a nail tech. The GM stuff is all lies.Dont even bother talking to tunafisha he is a malleable retard who works for GM electrical vehicle dept (enough said)
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
Well if you want to go that route.You are absolutely right that 200 years is nothing.
Yet here you are posting on an American forum, using currency primarily based on the American dollar, much more engrained in American culture than any other, giving America rent free living space....
And it has only been here for the blink of an eye.
The God Damned City on the Hill. We have flaws, but I’m glad you could be so infatuated with us, even though it’s only been a blink of an eye.
Yet here you are posting on an American forum, using currency primarily based on the American dollar, much more engrained in American culture than any other, giving America rent free living space....
And it has only been here for the blink of an eye.
The God Damned City on the Hill. We have flaws, but I’m glad you could be so infatuated with us, even though it’s only been a blink of an eye.
I came here because of the Vietnam war at 3 months old. Guess who's fault that was? The AMERICANT'S, again. I would be a 5 star general in Vietnam right now if it wasn't for the American'ts butting into the East's business.
So not only did yall steal land, yall displaced me from my homeland, under the guise of giving freedom. Why do I misc then? Well its a large body building community, *******. There are plenty of online communities out there that arn't American runned. I just happen to be interested in this one, da fk?
At one time, yes, I had a lot of respect for the American "culture". Tried my best to assimilate. I hold very prestigious positions in American runned businesses. But now the skeletons have come out and I want absolutely nothing to do with yall.
Don't get me wrong though. There are lots of good and intelligent Americans whom I work with. They are the sole reason why I travel back and forth from the motherland and conduct business with. Otherwise fk that.
Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩
Again, incriminating yourself as a thief.So? We conquered those who were weak.
Take it back if you're strong and deserve it.
If not, stfu
Take it back if you're strong and deserve it.
If not, stfu
There is no such thing as conquering. Its called stealing.
Here, let me grab some weapons, run into your property, beat ur ass and then take all your chit. CoNQUrED.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
if I'm to much of a cuck to shoot you for invading my property I deserve it.Well if you want to go that route.
I came here because of the Vietnam war at 3 months old. Guess who's fault that was? The AMERICANT'S, again. I would be a 5 star general in Vietnam right now if it wasn't for the American'ts butting into the East's business.
So not only did yall steal land, yall displaced me from my homeland, under the guise of giving freedom. Why do I misc then? Well its a large body building community, *******. There are plenty of online communities out there that arn't American runned. I just happen to be interested in this one, da fk?
At one time, yes, I had a lot of respect for the American "culture". Tried my best to assimilate. I hold very prestigious positions in American runned businesses. But now the skeletons have come out and I want absolutely nothing to do with yall.
Don't get me wrong though. There are lots of good and intelligent Americans whom I work with. They are the sole reason why I travel back and forth from the motherland and conduct business with. Otherwise fk that.
Again, incriminating yourself as a thief.
There is no such thing as conquering. Its called stealing.
Here, let me grab some weapons, run into your property, beat ur ass and then take all your chit. CoNQUrED.
I came here because of the Vietnam war at 3 months old. Guess who's fault that was? The AMERICANT'S, again. I would be a 5 star general in Vietnam right now if it wasn't for the American'ts butting into the East's business.
So not only did yall steal land, yall displaced me from my homeland, under the guise of giving freedom. Why do I misc then? Well its a large body building community, *******. There are plenty of online communities out there that arn't American runned. I just happen to be interested in this one, da fk?
At one time, yes, I had a lot of respect for the American "culture". Tried my best to assimilate. I hold very prestigious positions in American runned businesses. But now the skeletons have come out and I want absolutely nothing to do with yall.
Don't get me wrong though. There are lots of good and intelligent Americans whom I work with. They are the sole reason why I travel back and forth from the motherland and conduct business with. Otherwise fk that.
Again, incriminating yourself as a thief.
There is no such thing as conquering. Its called stealing.
Here, let me grab some weapons, run into your property, beat ur ass and then take all your chit. CoNQUrED.
You don't wanna do the "stolen" land thing anyways. There's Viking settlements that predate anything Indian in North America. Therefor America really belongs to the Nords.
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Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩
Bullchit it does. About the silliyest thing ive read all day.Therefor America really belongs to the Nords.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
Stupid to even talk about or consider cause since the dawn of time lands have been invaded and stolen from other peoples and or goverments.This.
What they need to do is stfu and stop crying or boasting about the chit they got, when in reality its all stolen in the first place. No country would've gotten this rich this quickly. We're talking about a huge military consisting of advanced fighter planes, bombers, stealth aircrafts, several aircraft carriers, nukes.
What they need to do is stfu and stop crying or boasting about the chit they got, when in reality its all stolen in the first place. No country would've gotten this rich this quickly. We're talking about a huge military consisting of advanced fighter planes, bombers, stealth aircrafts, several aircraft carriers, nukes.
That is the history of the world not just aomething that happened once in America with fhe indians. Was it wrong ? Of course but again the history books are filled with such things going back thousands of years
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08-02-2020, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted By latverian41⏩
Like I keep saying before, no it hasn't. There are only a few cases where people steal land.Stupid to even talk about or consider cause since the dawn of time lands have been invaded and stolen from other peoples and or goverments.
That is the history of the world not just aomething that happened once in America with fhe indians. Was it wrong ? Of course but again the history books are filled with such things going back thousands of years
That is the history of the world not just aomething that happened once in America with fhe indians. Was it wrong ? Of course but again the history books are filled with such things going back thousands of years
Alls your doing, is making an excuse for your peoples despicable actions. I keep telling people, don't place so much stock in the US.
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