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post 1616886601 09-18-2020, 09:11 AM
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Wrong on the respect part. America is full of bloatlord fatties, so you will always be perceived as younger, treated less seriously, and less intimidating in altercations. Basically, it's about being treated seriously, especially important if you have a babyface, small frame, no facial hair, or are a manlet.
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As you get older and start to establish yourself in the corporate world you quickly realize that no one gives a chit about your zyzz physique. All that matters is that you excel at work and aren't a fat lazy slob of a human being. I've felt healthier and happier once i scaled back lifting to twice a week and focused on cardio. Better skin complexion, better heart health, better moods.
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard
Wrong on the respect part. America is full of bloatlord fatties, so you will always be perceived as younger, treated less seriously, and less intimidating in altercations. Basically, it's about being treated seriously, especially important if you have a babyface, small frame, no facial hair, or are a manlet.
Manlet wanting muscles to be taken seriously....

End well this will not
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post 1616892931 09-18-2020, 10:20 AM
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You're such a ***. Your posts reek of a former incel OP
post 1616893301 09-18-2020, 10:25 AM
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That’s cuz you’re natural
post 1616896001 09-18-2020, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted By nm1891
Sure, being jacked gets you tons of meaningless attention. I get comments all the time out in public and have plenty of trashy women take a pass, but after awhile what does that gain you except feeding your ego? No one in a business environment cares, if anything it can be a detraction if you seem like a meat head.
If a hiring manager had two potential candidates, both same race same education and qualifications similar personalities, but one had a fantastic physique, which do you think he’d hire? Easy answer. It’s the closest thing to being an attractive woman you can get. Halo effect>
post 1616896411 09-18-2020, 11:04 AM
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Lifting > physique result imo

If you don't enjoy that part then yeah total waste of time
post 1616896821 09-18-2020, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted By LukeS1
Money will always help you, in every part of your life.

No doubt a shredded physique helps out with women in certain situations, but its very much a double edged sword. If you want a solid GF 7-8/10 type, you may be less likely to connect with them due to their perceptions of you being shallow, vein, uninteresting, self absorbed, orout of their league (srs)
Honestly, you'd be surprised how many hot chicks think very little of themselves and are looking for constant validation. They have HUGE ego's and know they're hot, but will still hold guys that are below their league to a higher standard. Insecurities are a bitch, even when you're a HBB
post 1616897191 09-18-2020, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted By Sevenlionz
If a hiring manager had two potential candidates, both same race same education and qualifications similar personalities, but one had a fantastic physique, which do you think he’d hire? Easy answer. It’s the closest thing to being an attractive woman you can get. Halo effect>
Are you wearing tank tops to your interviews or what lol. Kinda hard to tell how jacked you are in a suit. Plus, being a meat head may actually be a negative depending on who’s interviewing you and what industry it’s in. You’d only have a point if your talking about a fat ass candidate vs one in decent shape, but you dont have to be jacked to have that advantage, you just have to look decent in a suit and not be a fat phuck.
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post 1616938391 09-18-2020, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted By TXBuddy
Pretty much agree OP. I get 95% hate and I'm not even huge. I can't even wear tanks when it's hot or I get neg comments or looks because people think I'm full of myself. I really just sweat a lot. .

The only supporters also feel it necessary to start talking about lifting or crossfit or some chit. So annoying.


It's because you're the equivalent of a 40 year old woman who thinks shes still hot
post 1616938701 09-18-2020, 06:22 PM
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Brb cant find a job because employers thinks your on roids
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The problem is this is a bodybuilding forum. We all think women care so much about aesthetics, shoulder to hip ratio or v-taper, bf%, vascularity, big arms, etc.

Most don't give a fuk. At all. Actually nowadays the bigger you are without getting obese, the better you'll do. At least in the midwest.

Really just train hard and eat decent, and most women are going to comment positively about your physique. No need to be a complete aesthetic kunt unless all you want is to slay easy bitches at the club.
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You're too young to fully realize the advantages to being in great shape. In my opinion when you're younger its not as relevant. Because HS/college years there are a ton of people your age that are active/athletic. At 26 there are still lots of guys/girls in your age bracket that are in good shape/have a good physique. Mostly because they don't all have families/kids and haven't started rotting yet.


Check back in 10-20 years. If you've maintained that physique you're literally on godmode. Top 1% for age bracket. There is a big difference between just being better then the average guy your age. And being in the top 1% of physical attractiveness for your age.
post 1616939341 09-18-2020, 06:27 PM
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Why play video games, watch movies, shows, play sports, if “it’s not going to give you anything in return,” other than entertainment?
Lmfao
post 1616940421 09-18-2020, 06:36 PM
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Do it for the health benefits srs. It also makes you a stronger tradie and you’re less sore from work if you lift because your body gets so used to both after awhile.

The only way it helps with self defense is if the other person doesn’t know how to fight either. Anyone semi trained can take down someone bigger them. Anyone who trains seriously can take down someone MUCH bigger than them.

Or some maniac high on adrenaline.

I Cringe at people who think just because they lift they’re better than non lifters and usually they’re losers with no real hobbies or consider lifting their main hobby... even though it’s not a hobby....... Just so obssesed when no one really gives a ****. So typical miscer ?

Oh and lol @ people who think you can naturally add more than 20-30 lbs of lbm from lifting. Yeah. Okay.

Waiting for incoming neg train of loser *******s.
post 1616940631 09-18-2020, 06:39 PM
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Lmao at this gigacope "you don’t want to looked jacked in the business world"

It’s not hard for you all to hide it with bigger shirts if you really want to, especially literally everyone in this thread. Not a bad thing

If you want to show it wear clothes that do or be shirtless, and if you want to hide it wear bigger clothes. No one here has a level of leanness and muscle mass considered too big (plenty of aesthetic as is brahs for sure though)
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post 1616940691 09-18-2020, 06:40 PM
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I disagree op.

Nothing like looking in the mirror every once in awhile and being blown away at your own physique.

Once I went over a month without looking in a mirror shirtless and when I did I mogged myself or something, it felt great.
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post 1616941991 09-18-2020, 06:55 PM
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Also OP has some truth but it makes a pretty massive difference for ethnic dudes who grew up as skinny kids and didn’t fit in as well, especially if they’re decent looking and somewhat tall already
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I think the self confidence you gain by getting in shape alone is worth it.
But of course it's not going to hand you a successful life on a silver platter, you still gotta work for it.
post 1616943551 09-18-2020, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted By trapspot
Lmao at this gigacope "you don’t want to looked jacked in the business world"

It’s not hard for you all to hide it with bigger shirts if you really want to, especially literally everyone in this thread. Not a bad thing

If you want to show it wear clothes that do or be shirtless, and if you want to hide it wear bigger clothes. No one here has a level of leanness and muscle mass considered too big (plenty of aesthetic as is brahs for sure though)
this; if you're not on the OJ it's easy enough to look like you kinda work-out by just going a size up.

I still think face,height>>>phyhsique.
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Originally Posted By sandman2019
It's true women dn't give fark if you lift weights!

this guy gets 0 matches on tinder!



negged for low tier intelligence.
Srs?? There's no way that dude gets 0 matches. At the very least I'm sure he gets tons of matches from whales and girls 5/10 or below.
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Originally Posted By Imthebestmayne
Just don't be these guys
lmao wtf? this is what happen when you misc too much.
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Originally Posted By LukeS1
I'm not saying its not worth it, but you have to do it for you and only for you.

Going from a 17 year old skinny kid, to close to my ideal physique (6'1, 205 and like 10% bodyfat) it was cool, but the end result isn't as valuable or satisfying as I had thought it would be.

I still love the sport, process and challenge so will probably never stop, but I came to realise that's all there is to it really. The perceived external benefits such as respect, status, women, self esteem are negligible and mostly double edged swords.
Thats because you have chitty genetics so you can never have a truly aesthetic physique. Doesn't mean you should pee in other people's cheerios.

Just a little tip but when you discover these wonderful insights about yourself don't try to project them on to everybody else.
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If you're trying to impress women with money, cars and physique good luck. They don't give a shyt about that. And the ones that do will leave you when one of those 3 you can go longer provide for them.
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Originally Posted By VinnyPazRules
Thats because you have chitty genetics so you can never have a truly aesthetic physique. Doesn't mean you should pee in other people's cheerios.

Just a little tip but when you discover these wonderful insights about yourself don't try to project them on to everybody else.
lmao what part of my genetics are chitty? Srs

I certainly wouldn't want to look like your avi thats for sure
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I bench 510lbs @ 185lbs body weight and just do it for myself. People comment on my physique regularly but honestly it's a bit of a negative as a whole.
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yeah i completely disagree.

Having an aesthetic physique opens so fukin doors for me, women is only one of those doors. Walking inside any room and knowing everyone is noticing you is something else. No, its not narcissism, its how people react to exceptional physiques.

The key is to not be "that guy". Brb tank tops showing your nipples, shorts almost showing your balls, brb instagram with many shirtless pics, brb look at my physique. Just wear fitted, comfortable clothes and you are golden.

Also, it isnt about being "jacked". Girls dont really give a **** about your arms being 18" or 14". They care about how your arms look in relation to the rest of your body. Pretty much its about your proportions and genetics.

Im 6'0" 182 lbs right now, natty, and i could get to 200 lbs just as lean if i took some capri sun. Would i look bigger and more impressive? Hell yes. Would i be more attractive to chicks? No way. There is a limit, you want to be exceptional, not a freak.

Its tricky but tldr i disagree OP
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Originally Posted By guest89
You're too young to fully realize the advantages to being in great shape. In my opinion when you're younger its not as relevant. Because HS/college years there are a ton of people your age that are active/athletic. At 26 there are still lots of guys/girls in your age bracket that are in good shape/have a good physique. Mostly because they don't all have families/kids and haven't started rotting yet.


Check back in 10-20 years. If you've maintained that physique you're literally on godmode. Top 1% for age bracket. There is a big difference between just being better then the average guy your age. And being in the top 1% of physical attractiveness for your age.
Yeah but your market also narrows down and shrinks. You can be in the top 1% of 35 year olds, but you're still competing with the top 10% of guys in their 20s when you go for a 20 something year old. If you go for a mid 30s woman, your market is very small and quality has drastically fallen as well.

Now realistically, a top physique will not make you a top 1% lol. There are some extremely good looking guys in their 30s who fall into that percentile.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
yeah i completely disagree.

Having an aesthetic physique opens so fukin doors for me, women is only one of those doors. Walking inside any room and knowing everyone is noticing you is something else. No, its not narcissism, its how people react to exceptional physiques.

The key is to not be "that guy". Brb tank tops showing your nipples, shorts almost showing your balls, brb instagram with many shirtless pics, brb look at my physique. Just wear fitted, comfortable clothes and you are golden.

Also, it isnt about being "jacked". Girls dont really give a **** about your arms being 18" or 14". They care about how your arms look in relation to the rest of your body. Pretty much its about your proportions and genetics.

Im 6'0" 182 lbs right now, natty, and i could get to 200 lbs just as lean if i took some capri sun. Would i look bigger and more impressive? Hell yes. Would i be more attractive to chicks? No way. There is a limit, you want to be exceptional, not a freak.

Its tricky but tldr i disagree OP
At 180 lbs people aren't noticing you walking into a room unless you are wearing a tank or shirtless srs
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Originally Posted By LukeS1
At 180 lbs people aren't noticing you walking into a room unless you are wearing a tank or shirtless srs
Read my post again brah, its not about the weight, its about your proportions. I have a 28" waist, small wrists yet very muscular forearms, very broad shoulders and wide clavicles, somehow decent calves, low bf etc.

People dont look at me and say "damn that dude is huge", but again i never claimed that. Just wear clothes that fit
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