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10-24-2020, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted By SultanofBling⏩
In real life, i just hear criticism of Biden; i do NOT hear praise for Trump which is just weird!Rather than praising Trump to the heavens and jeering that he will "Never be voted out of office! 2024! 2024!", many Trumpers are today shellshocked, in disbelief. It's as if they saw everything as we saw last night, but interpreted it entirely differently. They yelled that "Biden never answered the important issues!" without realizing that Trump was at the helm. He had every opportunity to turn and say "Now Biden, answer me the riddle of your son's facilitation payments from China and Russia." but instead ranted from the podium like a chimpanzee. Just shameful.
And the Trumpets are so defensive today lmao. Cagey. Already ceding the election.
I can't wait for debate #2
And the Trumpets are so defensive today lmao. Cagey. Already ceding the election.
I can't wait for debate #2
Imagine spending all of your time in a football debate talking about how the other team sucks..... and NOT HOW YOUR TEAM IS A WINNER.
There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
10-25-2020, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Liberal Projection at its finest here folks.In real life, i just hear criticism of Biden; i do NOT hear praise for Trump which is just weird!
Imagine spending all of your time in a football debate talking about how the other team sucks..... and NOT HOW YOUR TEAM IS A WINNER.
Imagine spending all of your time in a football debate talking about how the other team sucks..... and NOT HOW YOUR TEAM IS A WINNER.
10-25-2020, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
Uh no The Jets and Giants Suck, go 49ers!Liberal Projection at its finest here folks.
Don't mix constructive criticism with hate.
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10-25-2020, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
They do, although the Giants nearly ****ed me in Pickem this week. Jets are pure garbage.Uh no The Jets and Giants Suck, go 49ers!
Don't mix constructive criticism with hate.
Don't mix constructive criticism with hate.
I have no clue which 9ers team is going to show up, so always rolling the dice on them.
Still trying to figure if I want to play Brady this week in fantasy though, have 2.5 hours to decide.
10-25-2020, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
Touchdown Tom, babyThey do, although the Giants nearly ****ed me in Pickem this week. Jets are pure garbage.
I have no clue which 9ers team is going to show up, so always rolling the dice on them.
Still trying to figure if I want to play Brady this week in fantasy though, have 2.5 hours to decide.
I have no clue which 9ers team is going to show up, so always rolling the dice on them.
Still trying to figure if I want to play Brady this week in fantasy though, have 2.5 hours to decide.
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10-25-2020, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted By SultanofBling⏩
Depends on if Mike Evans comes to play, Antonio Brown comes next week, so Brady’s options will be a lot more.Touchdown Tom, baby
This week though, I’m not sure. I just need 25 points from him.
Raiders can score so hopefully that means TB12 has to stay on the field and match TD for TD.
10-27-2020, 08:05 AM
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Bump.
It seems like some posters have suddenly lost their will to shill since yesterday...
It seems like some posters have suddenly lost their will to shill since yesterday...
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10-27-2020, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted By chaunce54⏩
I posted two threads.Bump.
It seems like some posters have suddenly lost their will to shill since yesterday...
It seems like some posters have suddenly lost their will to shill since yesterday...

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10-27-2020, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted By chaunce54⏩
I almost feel sorry for what is about to happen to them.Bump.
It seems like some posters have suddenly lost their will to shill since yesterday...
It seems like some posters have suddenly lost their will to shill since yesterday...
Almost.
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10-27-2020, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
I believe see things 180 degrees different than the rest of the world. Biden literally has nothing to run on other than I'm not Trump.In real life, i just hear criticism of Biden; i do NOT hear praise for Trump which is just weird!
Imagine spending all of your time in a football debate talking about how the other team sucks..... and NOT HOW YOUR TEAM IS A WINNER.
Imagine spending all of your time in a football debate talking about how the other team sucks..... and NOT HOW YOUR TEAM IS A WINNER.
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Originally Posted By IAMBEE⏩
Neoliberalism.I believe see things 180 degrees different than the rest of the world. Biden literally has nothing to run on other than I'm not Trump.
Edit: pro business, liberal social policy, international player in a rules based world economy.
Vs. Populism/Jingoism/constant lying/incompetence
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Originally Posted By IAMBEE⏩
Then you are not listening or watching him in the debates, he actually answers the questions.I believe see things 180 degrees different than the rest of the world. Biden literally has nothing to run on other than I'm not Trump.
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10-27-2020, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By IAMBEE⏩
Yeah Bee, this signals to everyone that you haven't been engaged in the debates or the discourse. Basically you've made your "assumption" of Biden's character (doubtless affected by Trump's propaganda machine) and are leading with that.I believe see things 180 degrees different than the rest of the world. Biden literally has nothing to run on other than I'm not Trump.
Just remember that when you assume, you make an ass out of u and me.
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10-27-2020, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Just like 4yrs of TDS and no one praises Biden or knows what his policies are.In real life, i just hear criticism of Biden; i do NOT hear praise for Trump which is just weird!
Imagine spending all of your time in a football debate talking about how the other team sucks..... and NOT HOW YOUR TEAM IS A WINNER.
Imagine spending all of your time in a football debate talking about how the other team sucks..... and NOT HOW YOUR TEAM IS A WINNER.
I’m voting for Biden because Trump is bad
Ducking idiot
10-29-2020, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By scheal⏩
Hey man, if that's what wins the election, that's what wins the election.Just like 4yrs of TDS and no one praises Biden or knows what his policies are.
I’m voting for Biden because Trump is bad
Ducking idiot
I’m voting for Biden because Trump is bad
Ducking idiot
Don't hate the same spirit that swept Trump into power when it turns against him in backlash to his horrid presidency and mishandling of COVID-19
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This aged well didn't it, fukface

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11-04-2020, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Rexcalibr⏩
You can hear a pin drop.it has been eerily quiet
Been a hell of a ride.
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11-04-2020, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted By SultanofBling⏩
A counter to this idea is that the media, technocrats and many Republican establishment types were all working against Trump, in addition to pop culture (owned by the same corporations), that a narrow loss (which hasn't even happened as of this moment) is actually quite the achievement.Hey man, if that's what wins the election, that's what wins the election.
Don't hate the same spirit that swept Trump into power when it turns against him in backlash to his horrid presidency and mishandling of COVID-19
Don't hate the same spirit that swept Trump into power when it turns against him in backlash to his horrid presidency and mishandling of COVID-19
Also keep in mind, you were wrong in your predictions about the election, citing the broken polls and (I believe) thinking a big Blue Wave was on it's way. Didn't happen. It's been narrow, the Democrats lost seats in congress and didn't flip the senate. If Biden wins, I would give them the nod overall for sure - but it is likely to be a very slim and probably heavily contested victory.
If you were wrong about how Trump would perform, which you were, I'd take your ideas about Why with a grain of salt.
My stance: The media was fully propagandizing him the whole way, nothing he could have done in the unprecedented Covd outbreak would has escaped brutal scrutiny and that without that he'd likely won in a landslide. He is not perfect by any means but this idea a guy who would have likely won in a landslide without an extremely biased media against him, without an extremely biased technocrat class against him, without the vast majority of pop culture against him and without an unprecedented outbreak of a global pandemic is somehow 'horrid'?
Really, the only thing working in his favor was how awful an unelectable Joe Biden was as a candidate (which he was/is). Meanwhile, take away covid or if Twitter/******** weren't censoriing the right and even mainstream journalists, or is the MSM as a whole was not full-on propaganda -- without ALL of those combined, Trump would almost assuredly won last night without the current drama.
That isn't horrid, sorry.
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11-04-2020, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
I mean there certainly was a united anti-Trump sentiment, but I'm reluctant to cobble each of these individual entities into a collective "MSM" whole. I just think they're all animated by self-interest, and that present self-interest is to keep the spotlight on the President who has been treating them like sh*t the past four years. It's an understandable kind ofhate.A counter to this idea is that the media, technocrats and many Republican establishment types were all working against Trump, in addition to pop culture (owned by the same corporations), that a narrow loss (which hasn't even happened as of this moment) is actually quite the achievement.
Also keep in mind, you were wrong in your predictions about the election, citing the broken polls and (I believe) thinking a big Blue Wave was on it's way. Didn't happen. It's been narrow, the Democrats lost seats in congress and didn't flip the senate. If Biden wins, I would give them the nod overall for sure - but it is likely to be a very slim and probably heavily contested victory.
If you were wrong about how Trump would perform, which you were, I'd take your ideas about Why with a grain of salt.
My stance: The media was fully propagandizing him the whole way, nothing he could have done in the unprecedented Covd outbreak would has escaped brutal scrutiny and that without that he'd likely won in a landslide. He is not perfect by any means but this idea a guy who would have likely won in a landslide without an extremely biased media against him, without an extremely biased technocrat class against him, without the vast majority of pop culture against him and without an unprecedented outbreak of a global pandemic is somehow 'horrid'?
Really, the only thing working in his favor was how awful an unelectable Joe Biden was as a candidate (which he was/is). Meanwhile, take away covid or if Twitter/******** weren't censoriing the right and even mainstream journalists, or is the MSM as a whole was not full-on propaganda -- without ALL of those combined, Trump would almost assuredly won last night without the current drama.
That isn't horrid, sorry.
Also keep in mind, you were wrong in your predictions about the election, citing the broken polls and (I believe) thinking a big Blue Wave was on it's way. Didn't happen. It's been narrow, the Democrats lost seats in congress and didn't flip the senate. If Biden wins, I would give them the nod overall for sure - but it is likely to be a very slim and probably heavily contested victory.
If you were wrong about how Trump would perform, which you were, I'd take your ideas about Why with a grain of salt.
My stance: The media was fully propagandizing him the whole way, nothing he could have done in the unprecedented Covd outbreak would has escaped brutal scrutiny and that without that he'd likely won in a landslide. He is not perfect by any means but this idea a guy who would have likely won in a landslide without an extremely biased media against him, without an extremely biased technocrat class against him, without the vast majority of pop culture against him and without an unprecedented outbreak of a global pandemic is somehow 'horrid'?
Really, the only thing working in his favor was how awful an unelectable Joe Biden was as a candidate (which he was/is). Meanwhile, take away covid or if Twitter/******** weren't censoriing the right and even mainstream journalists, or is the MSM as a whole was not full-on propaganda -- without ALL of those combined, Trump would almost assuredly won last night without the current drama.
That isn't horrid, sorry.
I'd like to clarify - I've been reluctant from day one to cite polls and I never really believed that a blue wave would appear. Too many Trumpyardsigns gave me the impression that this was going to deteriorate into a close race, one fought tooth and nail by both candidates. Unfortunately, that's come about, and now everyone's nervous as to what is next.
I'm very wary of the term "propaganda." I know a lot of the media deals in pretty lousy reporting, but there are some great media sources out there. The subtext that the media has been documenting is that people on the left/centre are fed up with Trump. That spirit got them out to the polls to vote in record numbers. Trump's base was, and always has been, animated to keep him in power. The onus was on the left to show up this time, and they did.
Great post though. I think you're right, that COVID-19 really hurt Trump and he could've turned that to his gain. COVID-19 was an opportunity and Trump tried to assuage his base by making it out to be less than what it was.
I think we're assuming too much about Biden rn. Let's wait and see as to whether or not he merits the Presidency. I genuinely believe that much of the criticism oriented towards Biden is puffery invented by his enemies to try and undermine his support.
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To me it doesn’t matter who wins as long as the senate is retained the the SC can keep these clowns in check
Also, I can’t wait to neg you again OP
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Originally Posted By SultanofBling⏩
You know, I couldn't really think of you doing that off the top of my head, hence my qualifying the statement, "I believe", but you saying this here now, I painted with too broad a brush. If you said you didn't, I'll take it. I think the rest of my points hold up.I'd like to clarify - I've been reluctant from day one to cite polls and I never really believed that a blue wave would appear.
You're wary of the term 'propaganda' that I used but I do think when it comes to CNN, and to a lesser extent MSNBC, it applies. That isn't the *entire* media, to be sure, but they have overwhelmingly been against Trump, unwilling to credit his successes, passing fake 'sources close to' stories, ignoring important stories harmful to his adversaries and whatnot. At best case, they're horribly biased. I used propaganda because I think they very knowingly craft a false narrative consistently, at the behest of their Corporate and Political masters. Agree to disagree on that one.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
You know - I agree. CNN and MSNBC are some of the most biased rags I've come across. I'll drink to that.You're wary of the term 'propaganda' that I used but I do think when it comes to CNN, and to a lesser extent MSNBC, it applies. That isn't the *entire* media, to be sure, but they have overwhelmingly been against Trump, unwilling to credit his successes, passing fake 'sources close to' stories, ignoring important stories harmful to his adversaries and whatnot. At best case, they're horribly biased. I used propaganda because I think they very knowingly craft a false narrative consistently, at the behest of their Corporate and Political masters. Agree to disagree on that one.
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Originally Posted By BeginnerGainz⏩
Oh baby I just can't wait. Your negs SUSTAIN me.To me it doesn’t matter who wins as long as the senate is retained the the SC can keep these clowns in check
Also, I can’t wait to neg you again OP
Also, I can’t wait to neg you again OP
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11-07-2020, 02:30 PM
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Hey Trumpets


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I'm anti SJW and I voted for Trump in 16. I voted libertarian this election. I don't think that Trump being defeated was really a big deal. I stopped being a big supporter after his response to covid.
I would prefer Trump to Biden, but him losing is not a big deal. I feel that most Trump supporters don't really care that much. Most Republicans just want to move on from the Trump era. For next election, I would like to see a hardliner on immigration who actually seems intelligent and makes good on his promises to seal the border, merit based immigration , deport all illegals etc.
I would prefer Trump to Biden, but him losing is not a big deal. I feel that most Trump supporters don't really care that much. Most Republicans just want to move on from the Trump era. For next election, I would like to see a hardliner on immigration who actually seems intelligent and makes good on his promises to seal the border, merit based immigration , deport all illegals etc.
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Originally Posted By SultanofBling⏩
It would be funnier if you made that GIF when Obama won in 2012.Hey Trumpets


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