waaaat where's your accent mane?? you sound kinda british canadian.

but all the south africans i know are joburg and durban indians and a few western cape malays.

craziest accent i heard was from port elizabeth, so strong but lulzy.

only 70 white farmers get murdered every year or something, getting hysterical over this is no different to the blm folk but being white supremacists i get that you guys want to blow this up

I'm South African, and let me tell you...

It's not as degenerate as what is sometimes implied, but its not a happy place where life is respected.The average middle class person here will likely personally know more than a few people who have been victims in a home invasion, hijacking, rape, or murder. The government is corrupt, just laughably corrupt, mostly because of race based political appointments and what I would term cultural immaturity (you cannot drag people out of the early iron age into a functioning western democracy in a hundred years or so...). Every state owned enterprise (Power utilities, road and rail, airline etc.) is running at a major loss and is mostly defunct.The income tax payer base is approximately 13-16% of the population, and this is shrinking as professionals leave in search of a life where their tax money is rewarded with service delivery (Hopefully myself and my family will be amoung them soon {I am a Mechanical engineer, and my wife has an Hons degree in Educational psychology}).

The above paints an overall gloomy picture, but the quality of life we enjoy here if typically pretty amazing. The country is stunning with natural resources and biodiversity coming out its ears, living well here is cheap - relatively speaking, and you can take steps to ensure safety. I am still happy here, but the writing on the wall indicates thatthe decline will continue without slowing, and then the future for my kids, no matter how well educated and prepared, will be untenable.We are trying to hop the pond to AUS, but currently the "**** off we're full" is delaying things

Underwrought the below is addressed to you...

I know lots of ex Rhodesian farmers (Family members and friends) and the vast, vast majority of them did not return, and will never return - I assume from your passionate assessment of the scenario that you have lived in both Zim and SA? (In case you failed to register the sarcasm, its there... You sound like an ignorant arsehole TBH).

I work with many black professionals, and, amoung the educated, there is largely commonality of thought and perspective (Engineers, artisans, and academics that I work with). The overriding issue is that the majority of the country is not adequately educated, and it is in the ruling parties best interests to ensure that they remain that way (because an educated majority would not allow them to continue to rule). Their (the ANC) vote share is decreasing every election, so the masses are slowly learning that they have been played. Just too slowly for my liking.

I have never understood the extreme political polarization of the States, While I am a gun toting, right of center, libertarian leaning individual myself, I lament the lack of reason displayed by both sides of your spectrum - its mind boggling to me that each side of your divide is almost a cult, in a developed (and supposedly educated) country.

Awww my home country.

(Never going back srs)

Awww my home country.

(Never going back srs)

Did you/your family immigrate here because of crime back home? Because all the South African friends I have had the same story - one was one building away from a bombing in Joburg when he was a baby and other other's family restaurant kept getting held up.

Kind of sad if they all leave though. It's an interesting distinct culture - different European identities away from Europe.

I'm South African, and let me tell you...

It's not as degenerate as what is sometimes implied, but its not a happy place where life is respected. The average middle class person here will likely personally know more than a few people who have been victims in a home invasion, hijacking, rape, or murder. The government is corrupt, just laughably corrupt, mostly because of race based political appointments and what I would term cultural immaturity (you cannot drag people out of the early iron age into a functioning western democracy in a hundred years or so...). Every state owned enterprise (Power utilities, road and rail, airline etc.) is running at a major loss and is mostly defunct. The income tax payer base is approximately 13-16% of the population, and this is shrinking as professionals leave in search of a life where their tax money is rewarded with service delivery (Hopefully myself and my family will be amoung them soon {I am a Mechanical engineer, and my wife has an Hons degree in Educational psychology}).

The above paints an overall gloomy picture, but the quality of life we enjoy here if typically pretty amazing. The country is stunning with natural resources and biodiversity coming out its ears, living well here is cheap - relatively speaking, and you can take steps to ensure safety. I am still happy here, but the writing on the wall indicates that the decline will continue without slowing, and then the future for my kids, no matter how well educated and prepared, will be untenable. We are trying to hop the pond to AUS, but currently the "**** off we're full" is delaying things

Id say come to Canada because we apparently let everyone in. But our leader is a socialist **** and wouldnt wish him on anyone.

I am from Port Elizabeth, but my dads a teacher so I got the benefit of a private boarding school education - it effected the way I speakI could probably approximate a strong afrikaner accent decently, but it hurts me to do so...

Edit - there you go :

only 70 white farmers get murdered every year or something, getting hysterical over this is no different to the blm folk but being white supremacists i get that you guys want to blow this up

I'm South African, and let me tell you...

It's not as degenerate as what is sometimes implied, but its not a happy place where life is respected. The average middle class person here will likely personally know more than a few people who have been victims in a home invasion, hijacking, rape, or murder. The government is corrupt, just laughably corrupt, mostly because of race based political appointments and what I would term cultural immaturity (you cannot drag people out of the early iron age into a functioning western democracy in a hundred years or so...). Every state owned enterprise (Power utilities, road and rail, airline etc.) is running at a major loss and is mostly defunct. The income tax payer base is approximately 13-16% of the population, and this is shrinking as professionals leave in search of a life where their tax money is rewarded with service delivery (Hopefully myself and my family will be amoung them soon {I am a Mechanical engineer, and my wife has an Hons degree in Educational psychology}).

The above paints an overall gloomy picture, but the quality of life we enjoy here if typically pretty amazing. The country is stunning with natural resources and biodiversity coming out its ears, living well here is cheap - relatively speaking, and you can take steps to ensure safety. I am still happy here, but the writing on the wall indicates that the decline will continue without slowing, and then the future for my kids, no matter how well educated and prepared, will be untenable. We are trying to hop the pond to AUS, but currently the "**** off we're full" is delaying things

Awww my home country.

(Never going back srs)

Did you/your family immigrate here because of crime back home? Because all the South African friends I have had the same story - one was one building away from a bombing in Joburg when he was a baby and other other's family restaurant kept getting held up.

Kind of sad if they all leave though. It's an interesting distinct culture - different European identities away from Europe.

I'm South African, and let me tell you...

It's not as degenerate as what is sometimes implied, but its not a happy place where life is respected. The average middle class person here will likely personally know more than a few people who have been victims in a home invasion, hijacking, rape, or murder. The government is corrupt, just laughably corrupt, mostly because of race based political appointments and what I would term cultural immaturity (you cannot drag people out of the early iron age into a functioning western democracy in a hundred years or so...). Every state owned enterprise (Power utilities, road and rail, airline etc.) is running at a major loss and is mostly defunct. The income tax payer base is approximately 13-16% of the population, and this is shrinking as professionals leave in search of a life where their tax money is rewarded with service delivery (Hopefully myself and my family will be amoung them soon {I am a Mechanical engineer, and my wife has an Hons degree in Educational psychology}).

The above paints an overall gloomy picture, but the quality of life we enjoy here if typically pretty amazing. The country is stunning with natural resources and biodiversity coming out its ears, living well here is cheap - relatively speaking, and you can take steps to ensure safety. I am still happy here, but the writing on the wall indicates that the decline will continue without slowing, and then the future for my kids, no matter how well educated and prepared, will be untenable. We are trying to hop the pond to AUS, but currently the "**** off we're full" is delaying things

I'm South African, and let me tell you...

It's not as degenerate as what is sometimes implied, but its not a happy place where life is respected.

Why is this not in the news ?

Testing ground for the rest of the world.

I am from Port Elizabeth, but my dads a teacher so I got the benefit of a private boarding school education - iteffectedthe way I speakI could probably approximate a strong afrikaner accent decently, but it hurts me to do so...

Edit - there you go :

this

repeat after me: diversity is our strength

ignore the FACTS

keep your heads in the sand or else you are a racist