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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
This was just based on introversion alone and answering slightly disagree to everything else.

So I think this test assumes introversion is always an autistic trait.

Your score was 27 out of a possible 50.
Scores in the 26-32 range indicate some Autistic traits (Asperger's Syndrome).
Seems the questions each count for one point, and whether you select slightly or "definitely" is "irrelevant."

There are also 5 categories, Communication, Social, Imagination, Local details, and Attention switching, each of which has 10 questions.

Also ffs, thought that was the famous S. Baron-Cohen for sec.

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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Doubt this because just on the introversion questions alone you would score higher.
Introversion doesn't necesarily imply inability to be social or enjoy being around people. High confidence and self-esteem eliminates most of the hazzards people associate with introversion.


Edit: Neuroticism is probably more correlated to autism than introversion.
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Originally Posted By legbroke
Damn, are you like, negative-autistic? Mirin'.
High empathy/altruism, confidence/self-esteem, and self-actualization.... So probably.
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Originally Posted By Habs11
High empathy/altruism, confidence/self-esteem, and self-actualization.... So probably.
I got a 4. I don't think we're out of the woods yet m8
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Originally Posted By MustardTiger17
I got a 4. I don't think we're out of the woods yet m8
True... Still some improvements to make before hitting zero.
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I'm in the Asperger's range. I don't express emotion well and have a hard time socially - my bosses have all told me that my coworkers are scared of me, but I do care about people, I just can't small talk. That's easy enough to work on, though.

The hardest bit for me has actually always been the sensitivity to touch and sound. I react ... badly ... to things like corduroy and sneezing. Unless I'm sick or haven't slept it's manageable, but I'm surprised sensory sensitivity hasn't come up on the thread. It's one of the major autism symptoms.
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Originally Posted By NicaM
The hardest bit for me has actually always been the sensitivity to touch and sound. I react ... badly ... to things like corduroy and sneezing. Unless I'm sick or haven't slept it's manageable, but I'm surprised sensory sensitivity hasn't come up on the thread. It's one of the major autism symptoms.
The test a bunch of us were talking about really didn't seem to touch too much on sensory-related things. The two biggest I saw were:

"I often notice small sounds when others do not." (in Attention to Detail, grouped alongside things about remembering numbers/dates).

"If I try to imagine something, I find it very easy to create a picture in my mind." (In Imagination, bit of stretch to call this sensory I guess but).



Wiki had this to say about the AQ (citations my exclusion):

"Although the test is popularly used for self-diagnosis of autism spectrum disorders, the authors caution that it is not intended to be diagnostic, and advise that anyone who obtains a high score and is suffering some distress should seek professional medical advice and not jump to any conclusions. A further research paper indicated that the questionnaire could be used for screening in clinical practice, with scores less than 26 indicating that a diagnosis of Asperger syndrome can effectively be ruled out. It is also often used to assess milder variants of autistic-like traits in neurotypical individuals."

Hard to tell how comprehensive it is. I'm no psychologist. Main page for autism has "sensory abnormalities are found in over 90% of those with autism, and are considered core features by some, although there is no good evidence that sensory symptoms differentiate autism from other developmental disorders" though, so maybe that's the key.
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There were a couple guys in my high school who were autistic. They ate stickers and did goofy thins like blow in your face. You guys don't have autism.
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Originally Posted By legbroke
The test a bunch of us were talking about really didn't seem to touch too much on sensory-related things. The two biggest I saw were:

"I often notice small sounds when others do not." (in Attention to Detail, grouped alongside things about remembering numbers/dates).

"If I try to imagine something, I find it very easy to create a picture in my mind." (In Imagination, bit of stretch to call this sensory I guess but).



Wiki had this to say about the AQ (citations my exclusion):

"Although the test is popularly used for self-diagnosis of autism spectrum disorders, the authors caution that it is not intended to be diagnostic, and advise that anyone who obtains a high score and is suffering some distress should seek professional medical advice and not jump to any conclusions. A further research paper indicated that the questionnaire could be used for screening in clinical practice, with scores less than 26 indicating that a diagnosis of Asperger syndrome can effectively be ruled out. It is also often used to assess milder variants of autistic-like traits in neurotypical individuals."

Hard to tell how comprehensive it is. I'm no psychologist. Main page for autism has "sensory abnormalities are found in over 90% of those with autism, and are considered core features by some, although there is no good evidence that sensory symptoms differentiate autism from other developmental disorders" though, so maybe that's the key.
Hmm, I haven't really delved into developmental disorders much, but that would explain it. Including it on the test could misdiagnose other things as autism, then.

Edit: Took that test and scored 41.
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I kinda rushed through the questions lol

Your score was 21 out of a possible 50.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
INTJ is pretty much synonymous with autism. I’m INTJ too and INTJ is overrepresented on misc.

I wonder if any INTJ could score non autistic on these tests because a big part of the test scores for introversion.
Interesting... My wife was told she may be on the spectrum when she was a child and she always scores INFJ.

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Originally Posted By Habs11
Introversion doesn't necesarily imply inability to be social or enjoy being around people. High confidence and self-esteem eliminates most of the hazzards people associate with introversion.


Edit: Neuroticism is probably more correlated to autism than introversion.
It's the reverse neuroticism is unnecessary actions that are the opposite of your capabilities. So, it's a healthy person who acts frail, and so forth.

An introvert has all of the abilities of a normal person but does not use them and avoids them.

An autistic person is likely brain damaged.
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Most labels like this just refer to people in nontraditional positions in their society, which if you do not occupy in the current state of things, you're braindead.
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Most INTJ and INTP have autistics tendencies I think. I'm generally a loner bc like 5 minute convesations drain tf outta me! It kinda sucks but it is what it is, we are all wired to a personality type at birth, so it's like your face or being a manlet or lankcel, that's it, it's done. I'm INTJ and we've been called angry nerds or I've even seen us called masculine nerds lol. There is at least a bit of truth in that. I think we're techy informationcels who can't stop reading and researching every fkn thing! My roomate is INTP and they're really fkng nerdy. sorry dudes...
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Not necessarily. I’m INTJ and not nerdy at all. But I’m extremely introverted, I overthink everything, and I’m very judgmental.
Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Not necessarily. I’m INTJ and not nerdy at all. But I’m extremely introverted, I overthink everything, and I’m very judgmental.
so you're not studious/smart/like to read? I heard that lots of ppl claim INTJ but aren't really, so idk. I however cannot test anything but INTJ in the near 10 times I have taken it! Lying didn't even work, srs. Kinda stuck with it now. Yea, it says we're THE most introverted of all types and I believe it. I like ppl just not all that great with them sometimes and emotions are my Achilles. INTJ men make up like 2% of the population and women make up even less. Im not in the mood to look it up but I think a female intj is the rarest of all signs.

there's also the attribute Assertive or Turbulent, which can affect signs greatly...
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Have her take the test!
ha! just saw this post.. so someone has already brought it up, go misc.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Have her take the test!
She has it. I'm not surprised and neither is she. She also has srs issues where she lacks empathy, can't understand metaphors at all, and sensory processing problems due to hypersensitivity. She's also of course very judgmental, introverted, & overthinks the chit out of everything. It seems like people don't catch autism in women for some reason. She was never diagnosed.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Yes I used to be a bookworm as a child and did very well in school and on standardized tests. But I was more of a dreamer than nerdy. And nowadays I don’t read books anymore.

I’ve taken the test many times and always get INTJ. And it makes sense for me as to the components - extremely introverted, intuitive, thinking, judging. Yes that’s me. I think it just manifests differently in females.
idk if you have a dude or what their Ptype is, but we tend to get along with infj, istj, esfp, esfj. for some reason isfj and esfj women love me. Not sure what it is. I dated a female INFJ and we got along really well but she was very codependent I noticed. Anyway yea you sound INTJ being all judgey and observant huh lol
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INTJ here.

I've always been really strong on mental maths, dates etc. Co-workers comment that I can talk in numerics. Still remember the phone numbers and car registrations from when I was 6-7 year old.

Boss has to reign me in a lot as I get an idea, go crazy and obsess over it, forgetting that I have my normal work to do, but once I've got something in my mind it is the only thing I want to do. Would be the company's greatest asset if they could understand how to use me.

Hate social stuff. Totally draining. Unless I need to do it as part of getting an obsession to the next stage.

Been told so many times I'm on the spectrum somewhere, and I totally buy it. Too many signs.


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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Yes it’s much easier for women to pass for normal. We always get the benefit of the doubt. Women are just naturally assumed to be normal and to have high empathy.

As a woman you would have to act REALLY weird to change people’s preconceptions as being normal and social and empathic etc. If you’re halfway normal and can act decently appropriate in social situations then people will just assume you’re normal but maybe shy or have something on your mind etc.

Whereas with a guy there’s no benefit of the doubt. If a guy acts a little socially off then people are quick to label him a weirdo or creep or autist etc.

Does your gf want kids? I’ve never wanted them and I think it’s related to my autism or INTJ personality. I’m just not maternal at all.
That's what I was thinking, too. She says extremely offensive/cringey chit all the time & people just give her the benefit of the doubt. I mean, a decent number of people really fuking hate her tbh lol, but they never think she's on the spectrum. As for kids, she always says she plans on having them "maybe after 35". In other words, she completely pushes it out of her mind & hates the idea. She's pretty career-oriented and very non maternal.
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Originally Posted By NicaM
I don't express emotion well and have a hard time socially - my bosses have all told me that my coworkers are scared of me, but I do care about people, I just can't small talk.
This you?


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