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post 1627547213 01-05-2021, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted By anonkunbrah⏩
This uber competiveness everyone is talking about is just in the major cities where everyone wants to live. If you just move out to more a rural area, life is a little more managable.
This as well.

Although housing prices are increasing, it's still affordable to purchase a home (with a partner) in a more rural area. The housing market is in high demand in the largest metropolitan areas, and hasn't changed really all that much.
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in most western and european countries being high T = toxic masculinity/Anti feminist and all the other degenerate terms, add to that inactivity/sedentarity, shty oestrogen filled diet, 24/7 exposure to screens = perfect cocktail to not express your natural testosterone potential
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Stress plus too much Soy in their cereals. Should be eating eggs everyday, not noodles or any fast food for supper. Insulin resistance causes low testosterone.

Plus more than 73% of American adults are overweight or obese, Canada is not any better either.
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Originally Posted By CeBKa⏩
in most western and european countries being high T = toxic masculinity/Anti feminist and all the other degenerate terms, add to that inactivity/sedentarity, shty oestrogen filled diet, 24/7 exposure to screens = perfect cocktail to not express your natural testosterone potential
A true man with high testosterone doesnt give af about that. Only low T neutered ****s care about thats. People dont understand being high T will literally put you in a different mindset
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Ive had low tesr since I was 12 and extremely high estrogen due to a medicine I needed. Doctors have been absolutely useless.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
Lots of cope here. Life was FAR more stressful in the past. Today is easy as fuk. Difference is we praised the strong back then, and today we celebrate the weak.

And the T-levels is not surprising with all the med use these days on kids, and the piss poor diet theories spouted the last 40 years.
'Celebrate the weak' is right. To the left, and thus social media & entertainment industries, weakness is power. It's not about being strong, but about who the biggest victim is.

Watch any form of entertainment from the 40s, 50s, 60s, etc. The stars were strong men. Not just physicaly but well rounded, willing to take risks, had interests, capable.

Then in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s we saw loserhood celebrated. Basically the 'be like Seth Rogen and still get the girl'. Men had nothing to aspire to.

Now SJW culture takes it a step further. The dorky guy is no longer a loser (he's a tech bro, male, straight, and white so the powerful enemy) but instead women and minorities.

We need legitimate heroes in society again. Not trash like Lizzo for the masses to aspire to.
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Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl⏩
A true man with high testosterone doesnt give af about that. Only low T neutered ****s care about thats. People dont understand being high T will literally put you in a different mindset
Spot on. Seeking approvals of others or the rest of the tribe is a low T and Beta personality trait. Hard to shed this if it's how you were raised. But eating right, finding things you are good at, building muscle and confidence, developing a unique personality/outlook (it's clear if you spend 10 minutes on a site like Reddit how few people actually have this), gaining life experiences, etc. will have you on the way - and when you make it you barely recognize your old self, but can still sniff out that weakness easily in others.

But when you meet a rare dude who also has his chit together it's great
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Originally Posted By frutistafreeze⏩
Boys used to be boys and men used to be men. They used to get hurt, get into fights, get bullied, get into trouble and all these things toughened you up. These days everyone is babied and coddled, nobody is every at fault for their actions. Food is filled with all kinds of byproducts and soy.
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In addition to everything already mentioned, I think a lack of sunlight has an effect on test levels. From my own personal experience, I feel like my test is higher in the summer when I get a lot of sun exposure, especially on the weekends when I'm out fishing all day in shorts and a tank top. Kids used to spend way more time outdoors compared to now. Just look at people from places that have summer weather all year round like the Caribbean. The people just seem way more fit and healthier in general. And I don't believe taking vitamin D is even close to the same thing as getting it from the sun.
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Not really surprising as we go through the generations it's more about what's between your ears and less about how wide your shoulders are.

A smart billionaire can click his fingers and wipe out an entire nation. A high test huge beefy bloke can do what? Win a few pub punch ups.

People saying it's the system going against men, but perhaps the systems are becoming more feminised as men's test lowers across the board.
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Originally Posted By guest89⏩
Its legal with a doctors prescription. Which is easy to get. Its not even really that expensive legally plus you get the benefits of a Drs supervision so its healthy.
Bullsh*t doctors purposely make it a pain in the ass to get a prescription. You gotta really have a tanked range. They consider 300 ng/dL as still in range. And then if you're in the 200's they'll "monitor it" because of fluctuations rather than acknowledge you're low. You literally have to be sub 200 to get a prescription unless you're 45+ years old.
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Originally Posted By ipunchurgirl⏩
Fake T isnt the same as real natural raw T. Good looking 20 years older, and possibility of losing your hair
This only happens if you pump up the dosage dumbass

exogenous test in a normal range isn't making anyone look 20 years older.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
27% drop in 20 years is extremely concerning

i get the temptation to make soy boy jokes and to imply that its somehow a mentality change in society but there is a physical/environmental cause to this and the fact that no national organization or media attention seems to be interested in uncovering WHY this is happening is fuked up and makes me fume. If women had a 27% average drop in estorgen in a mere 20 years, the media would be up in arms and every politicians would be "committed to uncovering why we are damaging our young women" or some BS like that.

its the food, its the plastics, its birthcontrol reaching the water supply, whatever but its fuked up society doesnt seem interested in countering this.
Because society doesn't care about men. We're all evil, toxic, and only serve the purpose of being slaves.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Yeah there is more stress and less pay.

Don't you think productivity increased because of better technologies and automation, though? You can do more, but the work isn't any harder. If anything the work is easier.

If you noticed the separation started with the age of computers.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
This only happens if you pump up the dosage dumbass

exogenous test in a normal range isn't making anyone look 20 years older.
Still putting fake T in your body is lame. Be a man, and build your own
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Originally Posted By Chezdon⏩
Not really surprising as we go through the generations it's more about what's between your ears and less about how wide your shoulders are.

A smart billionaire can click his fingers and wipe out an entire nation. A high test huge beefy bloke can do what? Win a few pub punch ups.

People saying it's the system going against men, but perhaps the systems are becoming more feminised as men's test lowers across the board.
And that’s a huge problem.

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Originally Posted By thadderbox⏩
I've made a prediction that people who are 28-30 somethings right now are the last kind of males to exist, because we still have testosterone, masculinity.

I feel that the next 5-10 years because of plant/soy based products, a push for gender neutral bathrooms, stopping "toxic masculinity" and dropping titles with the name "man" in them will gradually just lead to everyone being the same.

Real men, who exhibit alpha characteristics are going to be the minority.
Well I'm 30 now, will be interesting to see what things are like when I'm 45. Older and wiser, but still young enough to be agile with fit looks
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Originally Posted By Bracket199⏩
This as well.

Although housing prices are increasing, it's still affordable to purchase a home (with a partner) in a more rural area. The housing market is in high demand in the largest metropolitan areas, and hasn't changed really all that much.
If you move to a rural area you'll have a 1 hour commute? Who wants that?
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Originally Posted By meanstringbean⏩
'Celebrate the weak' is right. To the left, and thus social media & entertainment industries, weakness is power. It's not about being strong, but about who the biggest victim is.

Watch any form of entertainment from the 40s, 50s, 60s, etc. The stars were strong men. Not just physicaly but well rounded, willing to take risks, had interests, capable.

Then in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s we saw loserhood celebrated. Basically the 'be like Seth Rogen and still get the girl'. Men had nothing to aspire to.

Now SJW culture takes it a step further. The dorky guy is no longer a loser (he's a tech bro, male, straight, and white so the powerful enemy) but instead women and minorities.

We need legitimate heroes in society again. Not trash like Lizzo for the masses to aspire to.
Agreed, though I would say in the 80s/90s, strength was still celebrated. Something happened in the 2000s where it all shifted, and I think it's what kids are exposed to mostly. I grew up watching GJ Joe, Thundercats, Transformers. Kids in the 2000s really didn't have many of those, outside of DBZ, and in the 2010s its all soy programming.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
it's a simple matter of poor sleep, adiposity and poor diet (low zinc etc.)
What are the reasons for those things? Specifically compared to 2000? Did our sleep decrease? We got fatter? Eating less Zinc? Why did we do those things?
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Originally Posted By Decathletebrah⏩
Less test than 100 year old men. That's honestly scary
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey⏩
If you move to a rural area you'll have a 1 hour commute? Who wants that?
Depends on what you're doing, and where you live. I live away from the city, and I'm still a good 40 minute drive to downtown, with traffic. Again, you can't pick cities that are already large as-is (e.g. Toronto & Vancouver).

Isn't the misc big on working remote?
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Originally Posted By Decathletebrah⏩
WTF am I looking at? Lol
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
Don't you think productivity increased because of better technologies and automation, though? You can do more, but the work isn't any harder. If anything the work is easier.

If you noticed the separation started with the age of computers.
Sure but because of computers, internet,... leading to more productivity there is also more stress. Hell now your boss can still mail you on a day off.

Meanwhile the wage of CEO's has skyrocketed in comparison to normal employees...

Lol come on now, I'm no commie but how can you defend this ****?
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