Why don't they go back to their Arab countries of origin.

No such thing as an ethnic or historical “Palestinian”.

They've been thrown out of three Arab countries that tried to help them....for doing what they always do, rioting and trying to overthrow governments.

Maybe they should tell Hamas to stop shooting rockets from civilian apartment buildings so they cry "muh civilians" when they get hit. They need to be checking their own people. Start taking accountability in their own cities.

Do you even know what Zionism means?

Let me help you. Zionists believe that a predominantly jewish land called Israel should exist in roughly the same place as the ancient predominantly jewish land called Israel. Guess what? It exists and has since 1947. It's a settled debate. The world decided the issue at the end of WWII. Calling people Zionists is like call people round-Earthers. It's not a slur. It's a statement of reality.

Yep..Lets not act like Hamas isnt strategically engraining their forces in populated civilian areas...Just like the jihadis in Iraq and Afghanistan hid and or fought out of hospitals, mosques, schools, etc.

Are Israel's citizens "safe" from the rockets being indiscriminate fired a them...but herp derp these people only care about one side of the equations civilians. You dont hear them blasting Hamas do you? I find it odd, almost like its agenda based outrage.

If the problem is rooted in religion, that's where the solution can be found. Every party involved believes in a nearly identical eschatology. They all believe that some prophetic hero returns to establish an era of peace. People write prophecies so that they can be fulfilled, so it's only a matter of time before some faithful followers bring it into reality.

Both sides will never run out of willing bodies, and they will always have a reason to fight as long as their religious differences are not settled. Even if you aren't religious, that's the kind of logic they are working with. You can be practical about the importance of belief without being personally attached to one side. In fact, I think that can give you a birds-eye-view of things.

I won't say any more about this because we can argue for centuries, and the missiles can fly back and forth for just as long.

“Zionist” lobbyist are calling for the eradication of Hamas. They actually constantly push a 2 state solution.

The couple of Muslims CONSTANTLY screech for the Jews to be murdered slaughter.

“From the rivers to the seas” right *******?

How old are you? Do you remember there was a major international incident around the Iraq invasion in 2003, that the US would attempt to resettle Palis in Iraq. No arab nation could abide that, they need their martyrs stuck right where they are.

The IDF to have to send out warnings and messages before their strikes. They are fighting with both hands tied behind their backs against some of the most garbage humans to ever walk the earth. It's never going to end, so the best the Israelis can do is spend inordinate amounts of money to build missile defenses and then destroy enough of Hamas' infrastructure and resources to make them have to regroup for a few years until they do it again.

Meanwhile Israel continues to provide food, medical supplies and power infrastructure to the very people who hate them and try to kill them.


"Their attacking innocent women and children!"

Sure OP. I guess they mog arabs if you ignore the fact that Germany's average yearly holocaust reparations alone are 10% of their tax revenue.

This is all Bidens fault. These pally goatphuckers respect only strength.
Trump cucked them by moving the US embassy to Jerusalem and recognizing it as a capitol of Israel.
What did the pallys do???? exactly nothing. They just sat in their homes like good little boys.

Now our president is a ******* and all the animals are coming out into the open

With Obama in office, the border between Israel and its enemies was a violent mess for 8 years.

With Trump in office, the border between Israel and its enemies was peaceful.

It's taken less than 4 months of Biden* for it to become a violent mess again.

It's almost as if weak, ineffectual presidents who side with arab muzzies and send them US taxpayer dollars (a reminder... Biden sent the palestinian authority $235M of US taxpayers' money just last month!) embolden the arab muzzies to become violent lunatics.

It's not insurmountable, it's just cosmic in scope. All sides believe in the same prophecy of divine judgment and an era of peace that follows. Religions have a habit of writing then fulfilling prophecies, and they've basically agreed to a peace treaty that requires the future fulfillment of divine will. That's why Christian nations support Israel, they believe their dominion over Jerusalem will fulfill this.

Alright now I am done writing about it, just saw this and had to write a bit more.

May God bless Israel always and forever. You are a moron if you do not support our ONLY friend in the Middle east

I'm sure he'll do what happens every ****ing time there is a democrat in office too...

1-Park rocket launcher truck by school/hospital/daycare

2-Launch rockets

3-Drive away

4-Israelis hit launch site

5-Bring in media, show them destroyed civilian ****, post the jews did this .gif

6-Get $$$$$ and likes

7-repeat steps 1-6

The Arab-israelis play EXACTLY the role that BLM is filling for the globoMarxists that want to destroy America. Occasional muscle for direct action, but primarily a pool of martyrs and provocateurs.

"OMG! THE JOOS DID THIS! THEY DESTROYED A BUILDING WITH WOMEN AND CHILDREN!" - Aka they gave them a warning and said we're going to destroy this building you're using to build bombs and shoot rockets... get everybody out of it. So they get everybody out and lineup countless cameras to get it recorded. Then cry to the media.

Who’s alt are you?

Israel's biggest advantage is the Iron Dome tech they have. They had hundreds of missiles launched against them and it intercepted 90+ percent. America doesn't even have a missile defense system like that and as far as I'm aware no other country in the world does either. They are almost impervious to any kind of air assault. This also means other nations air force are useless against them which gives them air superiority.

You can't even hope to win a modern war without air support.

If Palestine want to stop getting massacred they need to stop attacking Israel and just accept defeat. You can't cry after you get BTFO when you were the aggressor. It doesn't matter who the land belongs to. It's about who has the means to control it.

Points out factual information, ~ "LOW IQ!"

Got it. Why look at facts when you can continue to use your emotions.

Yes, we do. For example, we have more than 2000 of the latest generation of Patriot missile batteries spread around the country IIRC. We have other systems too. We also have ship-borne systems. You don't hear about these much because when we talk about missile defense here, we talk about knocking out nuclear ICBMs, which is a tougher nut to crack because you have to blow them up before they re-enter the atmosphere. But when it comes to conventional missiles like the arab muzzies are using, we have lots of capability to knock those out of the sky.

What's happening over in Israel now is the arab muzzies are trying to overwhelm the iron dome with low quality missiles, hoping that Israel will eventually run out of ammunition (so to speak), at which point they can launch their higher quality missiles unmolested. That's why Israel has to put boots on the ground and end this situation ASAP.

I feel that a missile attack directed against America would probably impact the target. Just having the equipment doesn't mean it's active and in a state of high alert. I'm not ripping on America. I just think people here are lazy and have the luxury of not worrying about Canada or Mexico trying to annex land on a daily bases.

Alright now for certain I'm not going to read anymore of this thread. I have put way too much thought into the Israel/Palestine conflict on a forum about lifting weights.

I wonder why this is? I'm not too read up on the subject.

This.

Hamas puts it's "headquarters" in hospital basements. *******s like never before.

and now we have "The Squad" in our congress pushing this narrative too and half the U.S. eats it up.

There are deep rooted issues there that will never be understood by most of us westerners.


The way I see it because I have never been over there, which side constantly pushes their agenda? and has more extremists for their agenda? Typically muslims. Just leave each other alone lol. Simple

I know it's only a small percentage of muslims but Israel seem to be the rational ones.

Actually Canada taking over the US is more believable lol. With Israel they have multiple countries against them and they are smack in the middle.

Israel's biggest advantage is that they are the only democracy/stable government in the middle east. As such, theyre the most reliable partners for the US in that region (them and Saudi Arabia). They cuck the rest of the region because they got the US backing. They got the US backing because theyre best strategic partners (+ religious fervor that still exists in government for some reason).

Some small terrorist groups might not gaf, but no real nation would ever go on a full scale war against Israel. Cause a war against them is a war against the US

There is a deep rooted hatred by muslims in that region for Israel that isnt completely unfounded. It has only been like 1 or 2 generations since Western powers basically said "F yall, this is Jew's land now". Most of the new generation have began to move past it and you now even see some Arab nations making pacts with them and drawing up diplomatic terms.

Palestine and Israel tho is something i honestly cant see being fixed. The most pragmatic solution is them being taken over by Israel and making a transition to assimilate within a couple generations, but we've seen how difficult it is to overcome long term strife here in the US on race related issues (without getting into religion, which is even harder to overcome).

One big thing to get through tho is individuals, on both sides, who continue to profit from the conflict. Hammas's entire reason for existence is to defeat the Zionists and there are politicians in Israel who love the border conflict that helps play to their base.

JFL @ Muslims/Arabs who where trying to conquer Europe(successfully is some parts of Europe) for like 1500 years and then they are complaining about small piece of land in the middle east.

Thanks god they are in the middle ages.

Yea I can see the conflict of interest when it comes to the oil leagues. They want to keep their own countries status afloat I suppose.

Was the land originally Arab land? and if so for how long? legit curious. I don't know hardly anything about the middle east.

Yeah for sure. Politicians playing it on both sides. The bolded seems like the biggest problem to me though. Fix that, problem solved. The jew majority don't seem to have crazy extremist beliefs that I know of?

You can back through time and see that it was anybody and everybody's land at some point. Jews won it, and for now, it's their land. The issue is the ever-expanding land that will constantly lead to conflict.

After the 1967 war, a very tiny sect of messianic religious Zionists gained more and more influence. Their belief was that if the Jews settle the land of Judea and Samaria, the messiah will come. Before 1967, this group had literally no influence. After the war and Israel gaining control of the West-Bank sparked a religious euphoria. In the 1970s they slowly started settling illegally. The Israeli government, which was not religious, decided to to turn a blind way for strategic reasons and security reasons. It was believed that a Jewish presence in the area, particularly the hilltops, would help Israel from a security perspective.

Over the years, the settler movement has continued to grow and are now a central part of the Israeli government. But this wasn't the initial goal of the Israeli government immediately after the 1967 war. It's much more complicated.

The Palestinians are stuck in the middle. After the 1948 war, Jordan took control of the West-Bank, Egypt took control of Gaza, and Syria took control of the Golan Heights. After the 1967 and 1973 wars, Israel decided it needed to retain the West-Bank, Golan Heights Gaza Strip for security reasons, particularly because of how strategically important the Jordan Valley is.

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So more or less politicians playing the people by their religious strings



For the bolded, hard to blame the jews. Odds are a bit against them from a hostile people.



What's the islamic end game? Destruction of the jewish people?

and what is the jewish goal? domination of the middle east? Jews are tolerant of other religions right