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post 1640351893 06-07-2021, 10:48 AM
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I say let’s destroy the planet ASAP. Like George Carlin said, it’s been around for billions of years and dealt with way worse than us and still righted itself.

Humans as a species are like that rock band that used to be great and then gradually faded into irrelevance and everyone’s like “Damn, those guys are still around? They should just stop touring and realize they had their time.”
post 1640352013 06-07-2021, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted By suave2000
This x1000

Replacing millions of gas powered cars with millions of eletrcir cars is just retarded from an ecolgycal perspective.
Since it won't solve the mobility nor the pollution issue it's just a strategy to further enrich the auto industry

A real solution would be to move towards clean energy efficient public transport and clean energy production
"Efficient public transport"...yeah that's not going to happen unless you live in Japan.

People will still want to have their car, pollution or not.
post 1640352153 06-07-2021, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
actually electric cars do reduce emissions because its much easier to prevent/reduce/capture the emissions at one point i.e. the factory than millions of separate points spread everywhere i.e the Cars/Vehicles
that's only if you complete ignore their manufacture

all of the mining, transport and manufacture are performed with hydrocarbons, to say nothing of the real environmental damage

almost no lithium batteries are recycled and they fail right when an EV becomes carbon neutral with an ICE vehicle srs


if people actually wanted to make a difference, they would mega insulate their homes, drive as little as possible and never travel

none of the virtue signalers ever do any of that

and the biggest voices have private planes lol
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post 1640352933 06-07-2021, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By quadfecta
Give millennials and gen Z what they want: cars that they dont actually have to drive (autopilot), or at least gives them peace of mind that they arent contributing to air pollution by driving back and forth to mcdonalds while they consoom their beyond meat hamburgers and chicken sandwiches. The generation that will sacrifice practical utility in order to be forward thinking and utilitarian for the future of the planet. That's what I think it's really about, and the capitalists investing billions to develop everything from commercial solar panels, to EVs (pardon the false equivalency) are just pioneering this sociological transition from a consumer psychology standpoint, as they have always done throughout the evolution of modern civilization.
Theres already a vehicle that is self driven, it's cheap and it can seat 30+ people.... It's called the phucken bus lmao. But consumerism and the car dogma is embedded in American culture.

If people were willing to invest and renew the public transportation infrastructure we would have all the ecological benefits and less emissions without the need to mine phucken earth to oblivion for rare earth minerals.

But Americans are too chucked by the auto industry and selfish consumerism to even consider investing in public transportation. It sad to see streets filled with 100k teslas being "self driven" to take a cuck to whatever cuck place he's going when they could all be riding a phucken bus/tram/train/etc for a fraction of the cost and emissions

Oh but said cucks love patting themselves on the back for being "green"
post 1640353003 06-07-2021, 11:03 AM
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Heard somewhere that German car companies will produce electric cars after 2030
You guys, I'm seriously
post 1640353043 06-07-2021, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted By suave2000
Theres already a vehicle that is self driven, it's cheap and it can seat 30+ people.... It's called the phucken bus lmao. But consumerism and the car dogma is embedded in American culture.

If people were willing to invest and renew the public transportation infrastructure we would have all the ecological benefits and less emissions without the need to mine phucken earth to oblivion for rare earth minerals.

But Americans are too chucked by the auto industry and selfish consumerism to even consider investing in public transportation. It sad to see streets filled with 100k teslas being "self driven" to take a cuck to whatever cuck place he's going when they could all be riding a phucken bus/tram/train/etc for a fraction of the cost and emissions

Oh but said cucks love patting themselves on the back for being "green"
the cities where this is plausible are so hobo friendly that the guy sitting next to you on the bus/streetcar/train would literally be chitting himself while injecting drugs srs
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post 1640353373 06-07-2021, 11:07 AM
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Fusion power, we have practically infinite hydrogen sources. Recently a certain country was able to sustain this process for nearly 2min. lol @ wasting resources on fantasies, the power for us to propel space isn't going to be some friendly source of power. It will be destructive.

Nearly everyone person that says they are "Green friendly" are complete potatoes engaging in activities that do and mean nothing.
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post 1640353443 06-07-2021, 11:09 AM
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post 1640353463 06-07-2021, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
the cities where this is plausible are so hobo friendly that the guy sitting next to you on the bus/streetcar/train would literally be chitting himself while injecting drugs srs
Yup, would only be feasible in cultural right wing mono ethno societies like Japan. Doubt Suave will admit this incovenient little truth though.
post 1640353793 06-07-2021, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted By suave2000
Theres already a vehicle that is self driven, it's cheap and it can seat 30+ people.... It's called the phucken bus lmao. But consumerism and the car dogma is embedded in American culture.

If people were willing to invest and renew the public transportation infrastructure we would have all the ecological benefits and less emissions without the need to mine phucken earth to oblivion for rare earth minerals.

But Americans are too chucked by the auto industry and selfish consumerism to even consider investing in public transportation. It sad to see streets filled with 100k teslas being "self driven" to take a cuck to whatever cuck place he's going when they could all be riding a phucken bus/tram/train/etc for a fraction of the cost and emissions

Oh but said cucks love patting themselves on the back for being "green"
‘Mericans value their privacy and will pray top dime for semblance of autonomy. And I think that driving force is a major reason why our culture is so obsessed with work and making money. Hate the game not the player (who wants his own shiny toy to call his own).

But I get your point, it’s not very green to simply consume X amount of resources and change a few variables within the equation while keeping the business model the same (profit based sales over real environmentalist policies) and that’s why I made the remark about it being a capitalist driven market, rather than a complete overhaul of the infrastructure in place
post 1640354393 06-07-2021, 11:17 AM
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Society should try to work in a more symbiotic way with nature. IE roof gardens, bio-diverse lawns, and sh!t like that. All the CLIMATE CHANGE sh!t is 99% political, though. Eat the bug paste! Stop eating meat! (Says the CEO who accounts for more waste in a day of travel than you will in decades of living).Have an abortion! So much carbon emissions from one child!(Imagine, corporations dumping insane amounts of toxic sludge into the ocean every hour convincing people to murder their own children for the good of the environment.)
post 1640354483 06-07-2021, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator
"Efficient public transport"...yeah that's not going to happen unless you live in Japan.

People will still want to have their car, pollution or not.
It's so retarded that people still want their own car but at the same time they don't want to drive it (see the boom of self driving cars)

Putting more (decent) bus stops and cleaner nicer "green" buses would solve the mobility problem overnight at a tiny fraction of the cost.

I know I'm over simplyfing but improving on public transportation and rail connectivity would solve mobility issues with relative ease and real benefits for the environment
post 1640354753 06-07-2021, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
the cities where this is plausible are so hobo friendly that the guy sitting next to you on the bus/streetcar/train would literally be chitting himself while injecting drugs srs
I would rather deal with that problem than with massive ecological damage to the whole planet
post 1640355173 06-07-2021, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator
Yup, would only be feasible in cultural right wing mono ethno societies like Japan. Doubt Suave will admit this incovenient little truth though.
Is it such a big deal to share a bus with a hobo every once in a while? Compared to open air lithium mines and polluting the few clean water that remains to make more cuck teslas to further enrich cuck musk?

Do you really thing that you would ALWAYS have to sit next to a hobo chitting his pants? Lol
post 1640355613 06-07-2021, 11:31 AM
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What about fuel cell vehicles??
I believe Hyundai had one in production.
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post 1640355683 06-07-2021, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel
Society should try to work in a more symbiotic way with nature. IE roof gardens, bio-diverse lawns, and sh!t like that. All the CLIMATE CHANGE sh!t is 99% political, though. Eat the bug paste! Stop eating meat! (Says the CEO who accounts for more waste in a day of travel than you will in decades of living).Have an abortion! So much carbon emissions from one child!(Imagine, corporations dumping insane amounts of toxic sludge into the ocean every hour convincing people to murder their own children for the good of the environment.)
Agreed, in the end we are all getting cucked by the oligarchs. Real solutions for those problems would requere a shift in how we live and more importantly in how and what we consume.

Slight changes in urban planning + public transportation + workforce habits (like working from home) would have more profound benefits from all Than simply replacing all cars with shinier new electric cars (imagine the billions in sales for example)

Phucken oligarchs
post 1640357073 06-07-2021, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
not even close

both are totally intermittent/unreliable and worse for the environment than their petroleum equivalents; plus, they cost more per KWh without subsidies
There's a system that combines both of them for max efficiency gains.
Wind + solar are used to pump water to an elevated reservoir during the day, so the energy is used directly without the need for batteries. At night the water is used to generate hydroenergy with the help of gravity and such.

Was supposed to be the most efficient way to combine those technologies
post 1640357313 06-07-2021, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted By suave2000
Agreed, in the end we are all getting cucked by the oligarchs. Real solutions for those problems would requere a shift in how we live and more importantly in how and what we consume.

Slight changes in urban planning + public transportation + workforce habits (like working from home) would have more profound benefits from all Than simply replacing all cars with shinier new electric cars (imagine the billions in sales for example)

Phucken oligarchs
I think humiliation is part of it. They WANT people demoralized and humiliated, they got off on it even more than owning 99% of the the sh!t and accounting for 99% of the waste.
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