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post 1643657463 07-26-2021, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted By stevemckenna
Based as fuk. We should still nuke them.
Anyone nukes anyone and we are all phucked by mutually assured destruction.

Better we have peace and prosperity but I'm definitely not calling the shots here.
Beans. Cleans. Gasoline.
post 1643657683 07-26-2021, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted By ramimotemem
Zheng and wincel, the battle of the NEETs.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to ramimotemem again.
post 1643657723 07-26-2021, 04:34 PM
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Lol @ being so triggered over some low t pseudointellectual just fkin lol
post 1643657763 07-26-2021, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
No dude, you literally struggled with the science and had no idea they were making new viruses even though I kept posting it a million times. You had no idea what they were doing.

I missed a detail in the intro, well because it's the intro and I skimmed it, but at no time did I not understand what was going on. You clearly struggled with the science on several occasions.

In fact, if the original 8 strains did not infect humans like we had originally assumed, what they would have done in that experiment would have been GOF, which you argued against until the end saying it still did not meet the criteria of increased transmissibility, which it clearly did, as evidenced in Baric's 2015 GOF experiment.

So let's recap:

1) You had no idea they were creating new viruses

2) You had no idea what exactly GOF entails, failing to understand what increased transmissibility really means.
The 2 viruses were isolated. I originally misread that part as a transfection experiment. I had assumed they wanted to see cytotoxic effects in human cells. They didn't. It was an infectivity experiment. I admitted I didn't read it carefully enough and apologized. You, on the other hand, now refuse to admit where you were wrong. You owe an apology to Dr. Fauci, not to me. It's defamation like yours that radicalizes the public.

I contend that even if they didn't infect humans, it wouldn't have met the criteria of GOF or at least GOF of concern by the definitions we saw.

We were using two different definitions of transmissibility. I was talking about transmissibility between individuals of the same species. You were talking about it more broadly, in the context of host tropism.
post 1643657833 07-26-2021, 04:35 PM
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post 1643657963 07-26-2021, 04:38 PM
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Wincel truly is a perfect example of the kind of sack of chit that has made the internet a chitty place
post 1643658113 07-26-2021, 04:42 PM
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lol @ whingecel
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post 1643658173 07-26-2021, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules
I don't know. I'm still shaking on behalf of the Chinese people but I've calmed down a bit. The next step will be attempting to forgive him for his transgressions against my* people
I'm sorry your soggy little egg roll couldn't hold up bro.
post 1643659333 07-26-2021, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
WTF are you even talking about? I said in that original thread that I re-read the paper and realized a key detail was missed and that the original assumption was wrong. If I wasn't so forthright about my finding, you would still be in the dark, that's how clueless you were. Lmao.

-Didn't understand they were creating new viruses.

-Didn't understand what increased transmissibility means, hence no idea what GOF is.


Walking you through that paper was like dealing with someone who was scientifically illiterate.
I'm not kidding. I felt bad for you and your inability to grasp things I posted repeatedly and kept telling you what they mean.







^^Wincel still does not understand the science, which he never did. If the original strains were incapable of infecting humans, and they created new chimeras that could do so, they would have increased the transmissibility, thus it would have been GOF research. Want proof?







No we weren't, you were just dead wrong. See above. Thanks for playing.
*shrug*

Some guy on the internet thinks he's smarter than me. I'll live.
post 1643660063 07-26-2021, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
You were just exposed as being a fraud.

How could you read that paper and not realize they were creating new viruses?

How could you not realize taking a virus that could not infect humans and creating a new chimera that could do so is the very definition of increasing transmissibility and GOF research?


Face it boy, you got REKT.
I didn't read the paper with the attention it deserved. Lesson learned. I usually shut my mind off when arguing with you clowns since attempting to rigorously dissect your arguments is a futile effort because half the time you don't even have definitions for the terms you use.
post 1643660153 07-26-2021, 05:22 PM
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[QUOTE=wincel post_id=1643655923][img]https://i.imgflip.com/5hp56o.jpimg][/QUOTE]negged for racism and promoting a dangerous vaccine
post 1643660373 07-26-2021, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
Except I posted excerpts of what they were doing like 10 times and told you what was happening repeatedly. You literally made the argument that they were not real viruses and they could not actually infect people. Lmao.
Yeah I made the mistake of just assuming you were wrong. When I bothered to actually see what you were saying I realized that their statement of infecting cells wasn't a misstatement. They meant what they said.

BACs cannot infect people. They'd need to be transfected into the cells. The isolated viruses they got after transfection and replication could, theoretically. Actually, they didn't even establish that they can infect people. What they established was that the isolated viruses can infect human cells exhibiting ACE2. We do not know if the hybrid viruses they created could survive externally and bind. There is a difference between in situ infectiveness of a human cell culture and in vivo infectiveness of a human organism.
Originally Posted By gwg77
Not to mention, you vigorously looked up the NIH definitions of GOF and still did not understand what it entails. Lmao.
GoF isn't rigorously defined. GoF of concern is.
post 1643660433 07-26-2021, 05:29 PM
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tbh anybody on this forum that doesnt lift is probably super sketch
Uncontrollable behavior with some psychopathic tendencies
post 1643660443 07-26-2021, 05:30 PM
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post 1643660773 07-26-2021, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
-Posted excerpts 10 times.
-Thinks the paper has misstatements.

Lmao.


And just LOL @ not understanding the very simple concept of increased transmissibility. Right in the NIH definition, could not be more clear.


Fukking REKT.


There are two definitions of transmissiblity -- one that includes host tropism and one that doesn't. This is why rigorous definitions matter.

There is no rigorous definition of gain of function research. There is one for gain of function research of concern. The work done at WIV was not gain of function research of concern.

Anyway, let's recap. The original thread was an accusation that Fauci had lied under oath to congress. You said he did. I said he didn't. I was right, and you even admitted so.
Originally Posted By gwg77
It was in the Author Summary, in the second paragraph. Missed it the first time. I read that and was like u wot m8? Shiiiiieettttt.


You still have Dr Ebright at Rutgers that still insists creating completely new PPPs is the epitome of GOF research, but I disagree, according to their definitions. Dangerous af, but maybe not GOF research.

It's always a political game dude.

Yeah, I think Fauci is in the clear. Even if he wasn't, he would still be in the clear.
post 1643661103 07-26-2021, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
I must have missed this whole HVAC argument.
The argument was over why Walmart is allowed to be open. I speculated it was for a few reasons:

1) WalMart stores are generally very large and have better ventilation than small mom and pop markets.
2) WalMart has a more centrally directed supply chain, and can make changes necessary to adapt to covid regulations better than small stores.
3) There are fewer hops for a WalMart store supply chain than a conventional smaller market, which usually purchases from several distributors.
4) Closing WalMart would lead to a huge food security issue for much of the United States.
post 1643661193 07-26-2021, 05:44 PM
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Islam was right about Wincel
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post 1643661293 07-26-2021, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
Nah, you were just blindly defending Fauci. You had no idea what the science was. It took 14 pages to walk you through it, and even a few posts ago ITT you still couldn't comprehend what increased transmissibility and GOF is.



^^Lmao
I do have an idea what the science is. I happen to be educated in the subject.

You need to specify which definition you are using for GoF and transmissibility. Not specifying the definition and then mocking someone for being unclear what you are talking about is pretty laughable. The entire argument rested on semantically parsing the definitions of these terms, so I specifically asked you multiple times to provide the definition you were using. You don't seem to understand how rigorous arguments work, and I don't fault you because you're an engineer who has never had to mathematically prove anything in his life.
post 1643661923 07-26-2021, 05:55 PM
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Walmart is the last place I would go if I want "clean ventilated air"

They got big ass roof tops that just turn air over spewing who knows what into the air lmao

You could literally fart in the produce section then smell that exact same fart over in the automotive section 5 min later
post 1643662213 07-26-2021, 06:01 PM
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I don't get why people are still giving that loser attention. Stop replying to it, just neg, put it on ignore and move on
post 1643662363 07-26-2021, 06:04 PM
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Show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcome.
post 1643662373 07-26-2021, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa
Walmart is the last place I would go if I want "clean ventilated air"

They got big ass roof tops that just turn air over spewing who knows what into the air lmao

You could literally fart in the produce section then smell that exact same fart over in the automotive section 5 min later
It's not about clean air it's just the fact that they have better ventilation mainly because their buildings are very large and usually air conditioned.
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Originally Posted By bibimbape
Show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcome.
Who's a hansum boy? You are.


post 1643663323 07-26-2021, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
Yeah wincel just makes a lotta sh*t up as he goes along. Most of the time dude is clueless.
*shrug*

If you really thought that, you wouldn't be so hell bent on trying to gotcha me or follow me around like a puppydog. You'd just ignore what I said. A lot of people make dumb comments on here, and most just ignore it and move on. You guys follow me because you have a vested interest in what I have said. You know I'm right, and you have to try to smear or discredit it in some way to save face for your own political agendas. It's pretty obvious who is in control when I get threads made about me daily, death threats daily, and people generally constantly insulting me and trying to force me off the board. It must mean I'm doing something right.
post 1643663393 07-26-2021, 06:24 PM
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Reported Wincel for racism
Ack...Ack
post 1643663553 07-26-2021, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
Yeah wincel just makes a lotta sh*t up as he goes along. Most of the time dude is clueless.
Yeah, he makes it up as he goes along and rips talking points from elsewhere. He’s an absolute stain on the forum. He’s a snitch who’d backstab any of us if he got the chance. It’s a shame the perm didn’t stick.
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Originally Posted By wincel
It's not about clean air it's just the fact that they have better ventilation mainly because their buildings are very large and usually air conditioned.
I'm an HVAC tradie that worked on Wegmans, Wilson farms and a few other commerical places and currently do new commercial grow rooms, string of convenience stores and a school


It's easier to admit when your wrong instead of trying to look right
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Put him on ignore dumbass. What is this place now a safe space for retards? Phuking poosy gets butthurt from getting red squares on the internet lmao.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Wincel truly is a perfect example of the kind of sack of chit that has made the internet a chitty place
Repped for truth.
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