Actually I do. I'm a software engineering manager and not a pencil pusher so there is already a lot of down time packed into a day for me. All I care about is that the work quota gets taken care of. I could care less if it takes an hour or 10. I just LOL at this idea 'work' can only be done for a single eight block conveniently chained to the desk at the office.

My beef with the OP is that they were originally hired at X salary. It's not the same as originally getting hired from other state with a lower cost of living. It's a thinly veiled attempt to force people back in an office that may or may not need it.

Let me rephrase the question because people are just like "yeah bro, I'm more productive." Yeah bro, I get that. I get YOU'RE more productive. I am too.

What percent of your company do you think is more productive?

"Google employees who move even farther away from the company’s offices have been warned they could face even harsher pay cuts. A worker who left San Francisco for Lake Tahoe, another expensive area of California, would have their pay cut by a whopping 25 percent.

That would mean an employee with a $150,000 salary would suddenly make less than $112,000 per year. "


Oh my how can someone survive on only $112k/year


Anything below 250k is poverty so not like they were making good money anyways

So I can speak with certainty about a few things; my company has candidly admitted that we have become more productive in a WFH environment. I've seen numbers and clear indicators that show there is an increase in productivity -and also- an increase in positive feelings about the company. I'm on two boards that have been reviewing indefinite WFH as a permanent option.

I don't personally enjoy my job and I'd be the first to admit that if I was asked to come into the office in spite of all that was listed above, I'd find another company to work for. But that's really not here or there.

All that aside; what I was saying before was specifically that WFH has definitely made the majority of workers more productive as it has definitely created heightened incentive to complete work. It's incredibly easy to track workload and completed workload. Most companies have tools that can determine how productive you are and whether or not your work gets done in an adequate fashion. So truthfully, I'd be willing to bet that most people are more productive because the equation I presented before has been dropped.


Here's a great example; one of my good friends sits and plays video games all day. He works in IT, gets consulted for random projects during the day. The more efficiently he finishes his work, the more time he can spend doing something he enjoys at home. My friend just mentioned to me that he was given a 12% raise. That let me know I'm clearly in the wrong job hahahah

Theoretically speaking, the only people who would ever be less productive would be anybody who has an endless supply of work as opposed to a fixed supply.

Example; call center employee taking less calls because there are calls in the queue but the calls don't ever stop.

So again, I'd say my point only really applies to workload based work if that makes sense. If your position is "warm body in a place" (ie; call center) I could see being less productive as the more likely case.

ofcourse everyone will do it

Even more reason to become self employed, even if its selling fuken hot dogs at least it's your rules and your terms. Go for it brahs break free from the chains of cuckofficelife

I'd quit on the spot if my company tried to pull that ****. I'm much more productive sitting in my quiet home office than in a cube farm with idiots blabbering about their pathetic lives next to me

Office environments are fkn terrible for work that requires concentration. Noise and interruptions wreck productivity.Tech companies want to own their employees. Moving to a low COL area means they can retire faster or save up enough to start their own company. They do not want people jumping off the hamster wheel.

Google allowing people to work on "their own" projects is just a cheap way to own that IP. If someone works from home, Google isn't going to be able to claim ownership.

If the job was going to get outsourced, the pandemic or WFH wouldn't change that. WFH opens up the possibility of eliminating middle management positions. It will also result in Bay area housing prices no longer rocketing up, which is another potential negative financial outcome.