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Originally Posted By Shortfuze⏩
You realize the money used for federal and state benefits is a drop in the ocean to the all around budget?If anything, it just goes to show you that when you heavily depend on foreign money and support to artificially sustain you, you become complacent, weak, and rotten from the inside. This should be a warning to the US domestically as well that you can't keep the poor, impoverished, lazy, and torpid population suck on the government teet forever or else the same collapse we see in Afghanistan will happen to people here as well.
Also, if all benefits state and federal stopped you know it won't go to anything better. Nothing would improve except crime because people couldn't afford basic needs.
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they are pulling all the troops out so they can come home and fight "white supremacists". a couple mass shootings and the media will convince the public to do a gun ban. its going to happen either way because whites are on the way out in america - and whites are the only pro-gun demographic.
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Watch the movie War Machine and you'll get a bit of an idea of what's going on. They knew there was going to be a power vacuum after we withdrew, they knew going in wasn't a good idea. All the generals that were against invading Iraq and Afghanistan were fired and replaced by yes men. Think about who benefits from this.
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Last time I had a weird feeling like this was December 31, 2011. New Years Eve... Something changed.
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My first thought when this went down:
- Covid was a "proving ground" of sorts that showed the puppet masters that fear is an unstoppable tool to control the masses and strip freedoms. (We actually saw this with the Patriot Act almost 20 years ago).
- Destabilized Afghan government and Taliban rule = large refuge immigration. Other countries like France are already calling for EU to step in and deny mass refuge immigration.
- It's obvious the US and Biden Administration botched this... the world knows it and sees it. Even Lib media is criticizing Biden. That wouldn't be allowed if there wasn't a bigger play.
US will have to step up and on guilty conscious allow tens of thousand + refugees into the country.
- Incidents of Islamic Terrorism increase in the country and force ever stricter government controls and systematic reduction in freedom in the name of safety (sound familiar?)
- US government sponsors and subsidizes MIC (Military Industrial Complex) companies through municipal contracts to create a militarized policing force at all levels of government throughout the country (it's already started, fyi)
Government gains never before seen power and control. The widening wealth gap and unrelenting inflation backs the average American in a desperate corner. MIC makes trillions on government contracts while citizens give up freedoms and independence for modicums of security (physical and financial).
Authoritarian state created due to "necessity" so we can feel "safe" again.
This is how the US becomes a version of China in less than 10 years.
- Covid was a "proving ground" of sorts that showed the puppet masters that fear is an unstoppable tool to control the masses and strip freedoms. (We actually saw this with the Patriot Act almost 20 years ago).
- Destabilized Afghan government and Taliban rule = large refuge immigration. Other countries like France are already calling for EU to step in and deny mass refuge immigration.
- It's obvious the US and Biden Administration botched this... the world knows it and sees it. Even Lib media is criticizing Biden. That wouldn't be allowed if there wasn't a bigger play.
US will have to step up and on guilty conscious allow tens of thousand + refugees into the country.
- Incidents of Islamic Terrorism increase in the country and force ever stricter government controls and systematic reduction in freedom in the name of safety (sound familiar?)
- US government sponsors and subsidizes MIC (Military Industrial Complex) companies through municipal contracts to create a militarized policing force at all levels of government throughout the country (it's already started, fyi)
Government gains never before seen power and control. The widening wealth gap and unrelenting inflation backs the average American in a desperate corner. MIC makes trillions on government contracts while citizens give up freedoms and independence for modicums of security (physical and financial).
Authoritarian state created due to "necessity" so we can feel "safe" again.
This is how the US becomes a version of China in less than 10 years.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
intel knew and repeatedly told Biden - that's a factLike this whole thing just doesnt seem right. Its too easy and too much Biden's fault. For something to happen so bad that even the Democrats are now thinking Biden is incompetent it feels forced.
I just get the feeling from all this that theres an ulterior motive behind this, not that they MADE this happen but that they got puppet Biden to ignore it and take the fall.
Too many CIA people knew about it for it to be a surprise, intelligence isnt THIS slow and out of no where
too many warnings were given to the administration about MULTIPLE things going wrong here and plans to avoid it
Am I the only one feeling very reluctant to go along with all of this blaming Biden thing?
I just get the feeling from all this that theres an ulterior motive behind this, not that they MADE this happen but that they got puppet Biden to ignore it and take the fall.
Too many CIA people knew about it for it to be a surprise, intelligence isnt THIS slow and out of no where
too many warnings were given to the administration about MULTIPLE things going wrong here and plans to avoid it
Am I the only one feeling very reluctant to go along with all of this blaming Biden thing?
He knew this would happen and did it anyway;
but it's known that he's getting briefcases of cash and drugs from China so there's that
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Originally Posted By DTRrex⏩
That's what the Great Reset is all about - turning the US and other Western countries where the global elite live in into countries similar to China with tight totalitarian rule and effective enslavement of the labor pool.My first thought when this went down:
- Covid was a "proving ground" of sorts that showed the puppet masters that fear is an unstoppable tool to control the masses and strip freedoms. (We actually saw this with the Patriot Act almost 20 years ago).
- Destabilized Afghan government and Taliban rule = large refuge immigration. Other countries like France are already calling for EU to step in and deny mass refuge immigration.
- It's obvious the US and Biden Administration botched this... the world knows it and sees it. Even Lib media is criticizing Biden. That wouldn't be allowed if there wasn't a bigger play.
US will have to step up and on guilty conscious allow tens of thousand + refugees into the country.
- Incidents of Islamic Terrorism increase in the country and force ever stricter government controls and systematic reduction in freedom in the name of safety (sound familiar?)
- US government sponsors and subsidizes MIC (Military Industrial Complex) companies through municipal contracts to create a militarized policing force at all levels of government throughout the country (it's already started, fyi)
Government gains never before seen power and control. The widening wealth gap and unrelenting inflation backs the average American in a desperate corner. MIC makes trillions on government contracts while citizens give up freedoms and independence for modicums of security (physical and financial).
Authoritarian state created due to "necessity" so we can feel "safe" again.
This is how the US becomes a version of China in less than 10 years.
- Covid was a "proving ground" of sorts that showed the puppet masters that fear is an unstoppable tool to control the masses and strip freedoms. (We actually saw this with the Patriot Act almost 20 years ago).
- Destabilized Afghan government and Taliban rule = large refuge immigration. Other countries like France are already calling for EU to step in and deny mass refuge immigration.
- It's obvious the US and Biden Administration botched this... the world knows it and sees it. Even Lib media is criticizing Biden. That wouldn't be allowed if there wasn't a bigger play.
US will have to step up and on guilty conscious allow tens of thousand + refugees into the country.
- Incidents of Islamic Terrorism increase in the country and force ever stricter government controls and systematic reduction in freedom in the name of safety (sound familiar?)
- US government sponsors and subsidizes MIC (Military Industrial Complex) companies through municipal contracts to create a militarized policing force at all levels of government throughout the country (it's already started, fyi)
Government gains never before seen power and control. The widening wealth gap and unrelenting inflation backs the average American in a desperate corner. MIC makes trillions on government contracts while citizens give up freedoms and independence for modicums of security (physical and financial).
Authoritarian state created due to "necessity" so we can feel "safe" again.
This is how the US becomes a version of China in less than 10 years.
08-17-2021, 11:20 PM
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I'm proud of alot of our democrat brothers for calling out Biden on this whole thing. Ded srs. Very proud.
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What I don't understand is how they didn't install kill switches on all of their Advanced military vehicles. You don't just leave a Blackhawk helicopter or two without preparing for the worst
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Originally Posted By FrankCostanza⏩
They take all the high tech computer chips from it and leave everything else.What I don't understand is how they didn't install kill switches on all of their Advanced military vehicles. You don't just leave a Blackhawk helicopter or two without preparing for the worst
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I feel there’s an underlying, sinister reason behind it all.
They could be planning for war with China. Like in the sense that China and the US are organising a war together to deceive the masses.
China said something about the US being too scared to interfere when they attack Taiwan. Because since the US retreated from Afghanistan, now China is using it as a reason to take Taiwan.
So it could be that they’re giving the media reasons why China wants to fight the US.
They could be planning for war with China. Like in the sense that China and the US are organising a war together to deceive the masses.
China said something about the US being too scared to interfere when they attack Taiwan. Because since the US retreated from Afghanistan, now China is using it as a reason to take Taiwan.
So it could be that they’re giving the media reasons why China wants to fight the US.
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Too much weird chit happening under the Biden administration. It’s as if he was set up on purpose to fail. It’s interesting, though. Time will tell.
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I swear everything is a conspiracy on the misc lol
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lol. now they are flying over Taliban members for free on the pretence of unrest in the middle east. they want to bring down the US. no easier way to bring in thousands of 'refugees' than on military planes.
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It's true that there's something going on, but imo it's not what everyone thinks. The US isn't pulling the strings here and it's not a way to get Kamala in as president. If they wanted to do that, they'd just admit that Biden is no longer cognitively functional, which is obvious to everyone.
The most likely explanation imo, is that China ordered the US to pull out of Afghanistan now, so they can begin their political journey with the Taliban. The Chinese government has had several meetings with the Taliban as recently as late July 2021, in which they pledged support for the Taliban. This relationship will mainly involve China showering them with cash while they extract their precious metals and minerals.
The Taliban’s takeover in Afghanistan redraws Asia’s geopolitical map and hands China and Russia — two of America’s staunchest strategic rivals — an opportunity to project their power in the wake of Washington’s chaotic withdrawal, analysts in several countries said.
“China has benefited from the irresponsible behaviour of [the US], which has deeply undermined the international image of the US and the relationship between Washington and its allies,” said Zhu Yongbiao, a Chinese government adviser on central Asia and professor at Lanzhou University.
Arkady Dubnov, a political analyst and central Asia expert in Moscow, had a similar take. “We can align our interests [with China] in opposing the US,” he said. “What is good for us is bad for Americans, what’s bad for us is good for Americans. Today the situation is bad for Americans and so it is good for us.”
Source:https://www.ft.com/content/7ceb9e3b-...6-80353249e6ac“China has benefited from the irresponsible behaviour of [the US], which has deeply undermined the international image of the US and the relationship between Washington and its allies,” said Zhu Yongbiao, a Chinese government adviser on central Asia and professor at Lanzhou University.
Arkady Dubnov, a political analyst and central Asia expert in Moscow, had a similar take. “We can align our interests [with China] in opposing the US,” he said. “What is good for us is bad for Americans, what’s bad for us is good for Americans. Today the situation is bad for Americans and so it is good for us.”
The most likely explanation imo, is that China ordered the US to pull out of Afghanistan now, so they can begin their political journey with the Taliban. The Chinese government has had several meetings with the Taliban as recently as late July 2021, in which they pledged support for the Taliban. This relationship will mainly involve China showering them with cash while they extract their precious metals and minerals.
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Originally Posted By jamalfudge⏩
Probably to remove Biden and install Kamala. I actually think Biden is not fully in charge already but that he does still offer occasional pushback. IMO he’s just old and out of it not necessarily a crazy progressive and there is a chance he might catch something and put a stop to it. So they need him out.My BS meter is going off but just can't tell what the endgame is supposed to be yet. There may indeed be legit sht going on there, but the way we are being told about it is suspect.
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Originally Posted By naich⏩
Spot on yet-transitioning biden out of office
-mass refuge immigration plot
-ramping up tension to justify another 9/11 at 20 year anniversary
-about to pass something sneaky covid related
Take your pick.
Anyone else see that CNN footage. Looked like an onion satire piece.
-mass refuge immigration plot
-ramping up tension to justify another 9/11 at 20 year anniversary
-about to pass something sneaky covid related
Take your pick.
Anyone else see that CNN footage. Looked like an onion satire piece.
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Hold up did you guys all forget that Trump BROKERED the deal with the Taliban during the twilight of his tenure?
Biden caught the withdrawal hot potato as a result. It was lose-lose because Trump basically set Biden up for this.
There were 2 options:
- continued involvement in Afghanistan, in defiance of the agreed upon terms Trump laid out with the Taliban and catch flak for prolonging an unnecessary war
- pull out (admittedly Biden could have done better with the evacs)
What are you guys talking about with China, refugee plots, etc. like what chill. Obviously no president before wanted to pull out and they all knew it would be a shtshow for whichever president decided to make the call. Obama didn't, Trump didn't, Biden did.. under pressure.
Biden caught the withdrawal hot potato as a result. It was lose-lose because Trump basically set Biden up for this.
There were 2 options:
- continued involvement in Afghanistan, in defiance of the agreed upon terms Trump laid out with the Taliban and catch flak for prolonging an unnecessary war
- pull out (admittedly Biden could have done better with the evacs)
What are you guys talking about with China, refugee plots, etc. like what chill. Obviously no president before wanted to pull out and they all knew it would be a shtshow for whichever president decided to make the call. Obama didn't, Trump didn't, Biden did.. under pressure.
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Originally Posted By asianbruh⏩
You braindead lefties just believe what you want. Yes Trump negotiated a peace deal that was contingent on a May withdrawal. Sleepy joe and the clowns advising him delayed that withdrawal as a middle finger to Trump, thus violating the peace deal. Trump's plan was also almost the entire opposite of Joe's. Military leaves last, destroy intellectual property/sensitive information.Hold up did you guys all forget that Trump BROKERED the deal with the Taliban during the twilight of his tenure?
Biden caught the withdrawal hot potato as a result. It was lose-lose because Trump basically set Biden up for this.
There were 2 options:
- continued involvement in Afghanistan, in defiance of the agreed upon terms Trump laid out with the Taliban and catch flak for prolonging an unnecessary war
- pull out (admittedly Biden could have done better with the evacs)
What are you guys talking about with China, refugee plots, etc. like what chill. Obviously no president before wanted to pull out and they all knew it would be a shtshow for whichever president decided to make the call. Obama didn't, Trump didn't, Biden did.. under pressure.
Biden caught the withdrawal hot potato as a result. It was lose-lose because Trump basically set Biden up for this.
There were 2 options:
- continued involvement in Afghanistan, in defiance of the agreed upon terms Trump laid out with the Taliban and catch flak for prolonging an unnecessary war
- pull out (admittedly Biden could have done better with the evacs)
What are you guys talking about with China, refugee plots, etc. like what chill. Obviously no president before wanted to pull out and they all knew it would be a shtshow for whichever president decided to make the call. Obama didn't, Trump didn't, Biden did.. under pressure.
You are what's wrong with this country... left/right, I don't care. You should be able to conjure up rational thoughts and call out BOTH sides when they are wrong. People have become so binary in their thinking... their guy is always right and the other guy is always wrong.
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Meh who knows
the entire Afghanistan was a giga failure from the beginning. Blame Bush and Tony Blaire, but mainly bush
we shouldnt be going to chitholes and staying there...bomb and leave, dont fkin stay for 20 yrs
the entire Afghanistan was a giga failure from the beginning. Blame Bush and Tony Blaire, but mainly bush
we shouldnt be going to chitholes and staying there...bomb and leave, dont fkin stay for 20 yrs
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Originally Posted By asianbruh⏩
Biden had no issues wrecking any of Trump's other plans/deals via abuse of executive order power from the moment he took office. Why should Afghanistan be any different?Hold up did you guys all forget that Trump BROKERED the deal with the Taliban during the twilight of his tenure?
Biden caught the withdrawal hot potato as a result. It was lose-lose because Trump basically set Biden up for this.
There were 2 options:
- continued involvement in Afghanistan, in defiance of the agreed upon terms Trump laid out with the Taliban and catch flak for prolonging an unnecessary war
- pull out (admittedly Biden could have done better with the evacs)
What are you guys talking about with China, refugee plots, etc. like what chill. Obviously no president before wanted to pull out and they all knew it would be a shtshow for whichever president decided to make the call. Obama didn't, Trump didn't, Biden did.. under pressure.
Biden caught the withdrawal hot potato as a result. It was lose-lose because Trump basically set Biden up for this.
There were 2 options:
- continued involvement in Afghanistan, in defiance of the agreed upon terms Trump laid out with the Taliban and catch flak for prolonging an unnecessary war
- pull out (admittedly Biden could have done better with the evacs)
What are you guys talking about with China, refugee plots, etc. like what chill. Obviously no president before wanted to pull out and they all knew it would be a shtshow for whichever president decided to make the call. Obama didn't, Trump didn't, Biden did.. under pressure.
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Originally Posted By plebmaximus⏩
anyone arguing this point has no common sense or critical thinking abilities. I swear I hate seeing idiots bring this up.Meh who knows
the entire Afghanistan was a giga failure from the beginning. Blame Bush and Tony Blaire, but mainly bush
we shouldnt be going to chitholes and staying there...bomb and leave, dont fkin stay for 20 yrs
the entire Afghanistan was a giga failure from the beginning. Blame Bush and Tony Blaire, but mainly bush
we shouldnt be going to chitholes and staying there...bomb and leave, dont fkin stay for 20 yrs
The issue of should we stay or go has NOTHING to do with whats at hand right now. That was months ago and already argued. The issue now is when we decided to go HOW we left was not done right. Bush and Blaire to my knowledge had nothing to do with extracting materials and people from afghanistan when we pulled the military personnel out. Pretty sure it was just the Biden Admin. in charge of that so its really him at fault, or rather the Biden admin for their secret plots to pin it all on Biden.
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Eventual replacement of Biden with his VP due to incompetence, perhaps?
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Biden doesn't make any decisions. Every time I hear somebody say "Biden did this" I think "oh they must have meant Biden's handlers did this". But the way most of you are wording your posts now it seems like you legitimately believe Biden gives orders and they are followed.
It's definitely possible that somebody is doing stuff to make The Biden Administration look bad so that they personally can take advantage, but more likely they are just incompetent and it's hard for them to make decisions due to having to virtue signal/keep up appearances/jockey for position with each other.
It's definitely possible that somebody is doing stuff to make The Biden Administration look bad so that they personally can take advantage, but more likely they are just incompetent and it's hard for them to make decisions due to having to virtue signal/keep up appearances/jockey for position with each other.
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Originally Posted By DeputyDong5⏩
Exactly this. I just want to know what exactly the Biden administration's plan was. What plan did they create that was so much better than what Trump had? There is no way this is what they wanted to happen and we clearly got just about the worst possible outcome with Biden's plan. So again, I ask, what exactly was the best case scenario with the Biden plan that was so much better than Trump's?You braindead lefties just believe what you want. Yes Trump negotiated a peace deal that was contingent on a May withdrawal. Sleepy joe and the clowns advising him delayed that withdrawal as a middle finger to Trump, thus violating the peace deal. Trump's plan was also almost the entire opposite of Joe's. Military leaves last, destroy intellectual property/sensitive information.
You are what's wrong with this country... left/right, I don't care. You should be able to conjure up rational thoughts and call out BOTH sides when they are wrong. People have become so binary in their thinking... their guy is always right and the other guy is always wrong.
You are what's wrong with this country... left/right, I don't care. You should be able to conjure up rational thoughts and call out BOTH sides when they are wrong. People have become so binary in their thinking... their guy is always right and the other guy is always wrong.
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One term Biden coming to a country near you
08-18-2021, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
didn't read thread or anything beyond thread title but yeah its clear Biden is setting the military in direction to violently engage on sjw matters.Like this whole thing just doesnt seem right. Its too easy and too much Biden's fault. For something to happen so bad that even the Democrats are now thinking Biden is incompetent it feels forced.
I just get the feeling from all this that theres an ulterior motive behind this, not that they MADE this happen but that they got puppet Biden to ignore it and take the fall.
Too many CIA people knew about it for it to be a surprise, intelligence isnt THIS slow and out of no where
too many warnings were given to the administration about MULTIPLE things going wrong here and plans to avoid it
Am I the only one feeling very reluctant to go along with all of this blaming Biden thing?
I just get the feeling from all this that theres an ulterior motive behind this, not that they MADE this happen but that they got puppet Biden to ignore it and take the fall.
Too many CIA people knew about it for it to be a surprise, intelligence isnt THIS slow and out of no where
too many warnings were given to the administration about MULTIPLE things going wrong here and plans to avoid it
Am I the only one feeling very reluctant to go along with all of this blaming Biden thing?
Threatening the taliban over women's voting but not terror? are you fukking kidding me?
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08-18-2021, 04:54 PM
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