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post 1646562923 09-07-2021, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Wheyvid
What about conceptions due to sexual assault.
Plan B. Women seeking an abortion due to rape represent 1% of all abortions. They are an outlier and not the norm.
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post 1646563363 09-07-2021, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot
sounds like you're on an estrogen overdose with this post. Here's an opinion from a woman:
Yes because she represents the millions of women out there.
post 1646563473 09-07-2021, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
sorry man that's not infanticide to me if it's early term abortion. I'm not some bible thumper
JFL at invoking the Bible. God was notorious for infanticide, so try again. Keep on thinking its OK to kill children though, you sound like a real Christian.
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post 1646563533 09-07-2021, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted By piramparam
Youre a brilliant example of a person who actually assess risks and takes appropriate measures. Literally juiced to the gills to cope with body dismorphia. Some people man lmao.
I defend human life and you want to make personal attacks. You're a shining example of what's wrong with society.

Rope, ph@ggot. Insecure little bitch. Nice use of the word literally. I'm not a fish, so I don't have gills.
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post 1646563563 09-07-2021, 02:15 PM
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post 1646563713 09-07-2021, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
lol keep calling it infanticide and "killing children" to garner that emotional response like a lib/woman would, I just don't agree.

and you know full well you're a bible-thumper lmao
I'm pretty anti-theistic, nice try though. I just have the ability to recognize what murder is. You can also rope, too.

I hope your parents die in a car accident.
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post 1646563813 09-07-2021, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
I also find it incredibly weird when people say "pro-abortion" or "anti-abortion". The real question is at what point do you believe it's a human life with rights?
My personal answer to this is when the baby begins having a human experience.
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post 1646563963 09-07-2021, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted By DigDeeper1
Yes because she represents the millions of women out there.
See this is what I'm talking about brah.

It's not about access to abortions anymore. That issue was settled half a century ago.

This delusional cronepreciselyrepresents the millions of modern abortion advocates.





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Originally Posted By Coal
My personal answer to this is when the baby begins having a human experience.
When is that?
post 1646564033 09-07-2021, 02:20 PM
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post 1646564223 09-07-2021, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
LOLOL look at you, and your wildly over-emotional response. "durr I hope your parents die because I'm so emotional reeeeeeee!!!!!" l o l.

And you clearly referred to "God" like you believe in him. And you get emotional and illogical just like bible-thumpers do.
Brah..you're the one that keeps harping on peoples emotions when you literally negged me an hour ago with the words "you're a f*cking f*ggot dude" sounds to me like you're the one that's getting mad.
post 1646564313 09-07-2021, 02:24 PM
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post 1646564493 09-07-2021, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted By DigDeeper1
Seeing as no-one in this thread is a women I think your opinions on abortion are invalid.

You don’t know what it’s like to be pregnant and the problems that come with it.

If a women is pregnant through sexual
assault and wants to abort it then who hell are you to say otherwise? You can’t possible imagine what it’s like and this literally does not involve you in slightest.

Unless your partner gets an abortion without your consent then you really have no place to have an opinion on this subject.

So many fkn pathetic people on this forum, maybe if you guys spent less time having an opinion on everything you might actually escape your incel life
You just made my negs-for-life list with your MSNBC rhetoric



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post 1646564563 09-07-2021, 02:28 PM
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Abortion crew, if I inpregnate a woman and was one night stand that sht gotta go
post 1646564573 09-07-2021, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
I negged you specifically for trivializing rape and calling it "cuddle struggle".
That did legit piss me off.

But wishing someone's paren't dead just because they don't agree with you? Lolololol
Well you do suck like REALLY bad, so i understand his POV. Moving forward just try and suck less and i'm sure we'll all get along much better.
post 1646564653 09-07-2021, 02:30 PM
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post 1646565413 09-07-2021, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted By TomWanks
When is that?
So there's two arguments that can be made as to when a human is deserving of moral consideration, one is from the moment of conception and another is when the baby begins having a conscious experience. I honestly can't pick one of those with enough conviction to force my morality to legislate what people do with their bodies. This is why I default in favor of allowing people to do what they want.

If you pushed me in terms of my own morality I'd say the two conditions that should be met for giving a baby moral consideration are:

1. Be human
2. Have a conscious experience

So anything before those two conditions are met I'd be okay with an abortion. I think that usually means within the first trimester.
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post 1646565773 09-07-2021, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Coal
So there's two arguments that can be made as to when a human is deserving of moral consideration, one is from the moment of conception and another is when the baby begins having a conscious experience. I honestly can't pick one of those with enough conviction to force my morality to legislate what people do with their bodies. This is why I default in favor of allowing people to do what they want.

If you pushed me in terms of my own morality I'd say the two conditions that should be met for giving a baby moral consideration are:

1. Be human
2. Have a conscious experience

So anything before those two conditions are met I'd be okay with an abortion. I think that usually means within the first trimester.
Well said.
post 1646574493 09-07-2021, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted By DigDeeper1
Yes because she represents the millions of women out there.
No she represents the "pro-choice" argument; that abortions should be allowed under any circumstances, no questions asked no arguments against it afforded.

There was a time when people who were pro-choice believed that a human fetus WAS a living thing, and that an abortion is, on occasion, necessary. They saw it as a necessary evil, but something the pregnant mother should be allowed autonomy over --hence why they called it "pro-choice". Those days are gone and now we are left with a bunch of mentally-ill twats who have no decency, no morals, see no ethical argument to it and rather bolster how many abortions they have had and carry a "get this fukcing thing out of me" mentality.

Have you met one single pro-choice woman who sees abortion as a "necessary evil" or are you like the rest of us and only meeting women who see the fetus growing inside of her as frivolous and not deserving of any level of consideration?
post 1646595083 09-08-2021, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted By piramparam
This accountability goes for the bloke too. I dont want to keep babies. Fook em. If i had to become a dad my chitty neglected kid would beat lunch money from your well raised lil timmy boi. You want that smoke?

Accidents happen with bc and Its not wrong to kill a unborn person you guys are fkn hippies get lost. Casual sex without consequences is the chit.
Didn't you make a thread about how depressed, lonely and unfulfilled you are
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post 1646595253 09-08-2021, 12:08 AM
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Not everyone can use hormones. I couldn't take the Pill or use an IUD because of the hormones, and a condom broke so I got pregnant. They didn't have Plan B over the counter back then.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
My main point is that the real debate should be purely about when the embryo/fetus is considered a human being.

The pro-life side generally seems more consistent on this point, conception. But I am open to reasonable conservative positions based on the development stage.
If it's at conception then Plan B is considered murder because it prevents a fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus. When I was raped 2 years ago they gave me Plan B in the ER.
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss
Not everyone can use hormones. I couldn't take the Pill or use an IUD because of the hormones, and a condom broke so I got pregnant. They didn't have Plan B over the counter back then.
ok then don't have sex
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot
ok then don't have sex
OK be celibate for life? That's not realistic. Look what happens to Catholic priests who are celibate.

It's hard to explain to men the fear that a late period means pregnancy, especially when you are broke in your teens and 20s. I'm so thankful that I'm past that now.

I doubt the men who are writing ITT would want a Tinder ONS to carry their baby to term.

I would never have an abortion myself though after being pregnant and feeling the baby move inside me, but I can't judge others.
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss
OK be celibate for life? That's not realistic. Look what happens to Catholic priests who are celibate.

It's hard to explain to men the fear that a late period means pregnancy, especially when you are broke in your teens and 20s. I'm so thankful that I'm past that now.

I doubt the men who are writing ITT would want a Tinder ONS to carry their baby to term.

I would never have an abortion myself though after being pregnant and feeling the baby move inside me, but I can't judge others.
Imagine being afraid of becoming pregnant because you're having rawdog sex with random men who would abandon the baby and/or be terrible fathers.

The entire problem with modern women, encapsulated in a single sentence.
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Originally Posted By TomWanks
Imagine being afraid of becoming pregnant because you're having rawdog sex with random men who would abandon the baby and/or be terrible fathers.

The entire problem with modern women, encapsulated in a single sentence.
I never said that. I got pregnant while married when a condom broke. Luckily I had a miscarriage as we were too young and broke to raise a child. Then we later planned to have a child when we were more financially stable. But late periods were always scary when you can't take/use hormonal birth control.
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Originally Posted By TomWanks
Imagine being afraid of becoming pregnant because you're having rawdog sex with random men who would abandon the baby and/or be terrible fathers.

The entire problem with modern women, encapsulated in a single sentence.
Yep. It blows my mind how abstinence is never even allowed into the discussion. People who are pro-abortion seem to think sex is inevitable. And not just sex, but they think they are entitled to **** around without protection.

Don't want to get pregnant? Don't want to get knocked up by a guy who doesn't meet your standards? Afraid to get STDs? Then don't have sex. Actions have consequences, but modern women just want to have their cake and eat it too
Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss
OK be celibate for life? That's not realistic.
oh yeah and I guess you NOT cheating on your husband with random men for a few years wasn't realistic either, huh?
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot
Yep. It blows my mind how abstinence is never even allowed into the discussion. People who are pro-abortion seem to think sex is inevitable. And not just sex, but they think they are entitled to **** around without protection.

Don't want to get pregnant? Don't want to get knocked up by a guy who doesn't meet your standards? Afraid to get STDs? Then don't have sex. Actions have consequences, but modern women just want to have their cake and eat it too
Yes and I would like to see how many men on the Misc. will remain abstinent and stay off of Tinder if abortion becomes illegal.
Originally Posted By DolphinPilot
oh yeah and I guess you NOT cheating on your husband with random men for a few years wasn't realistic either, huh?
It's not cheating. It is a sexless marriage for 15 years. Like I'm going to be abstinent for 15 years? Thank goodness I never got pregnant with those men. I think I was too old for pregnancy anyways, which is good.
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss
I never said that. I got pregnant while married when a condom broke. Luckily I had a miscarriage as we were too young and broke to raise a child. Then we later planned to have a child when we were more financially stable. But late periods were always scary when you can't take/use hormonal birth control.
"Luckily I had a miscarriage"

JFC, what a perspective.
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