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post 1646611963 09-08-2021, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted By SSM12⏩
I just stopped pretending that I care. I dont need to project false views that I care about others etc.

Ill be blunt "no im not vaxed, no I don't care about your grandma, or you for that matter, I am not at risk nor do I fear it".

Thats if it ever comes up anymore. Ill shop etc without a mask and all of that. Noone has said anything yet, I think most are over it and the ones who are wearing the masks are too, they are just afraid of confrontation.

I am literally just over it and sick of pretending like I actually care anymore. I am going to live my life, im not going to let the clown world and fear tactics prevent me from doing me anymore. Its wasted time and pointless.
its not about not caring. when you realize nobodys grandma is in any more danger of dying today than they were 5 years ago you reach true enlightenment on the subject
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
That's what the vaccines does though. The mRNA creates those and if they don't all remain "stuck" to the muscle and lymphatic cells, they can get into your bloodstream. Pfizer acknowledged this risk in their document and the need for it to be reported. Many people claim it isn't happening, but we have many anecdotes of people getting the vaccine, going home, and then everyone in their household coming down with COVID symptoms, so clearly the jury is still out on this.
This is true - however you don't breathe out blood. It CAN end up in your urine or feces, but unless your water supply is untreated or you're literally eating poop you're fine. You can't transmit spike proteins through the air.
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Honestly I dont know if these vaxxes are actually lethal or not. They probably are but I cant prove.

Here are my main 2 reasons not to get vaxxed=

1) Im not afraid of a china common cold

2) It is mandated by governments, leftist cucks and the sheep worldwide. I always do the opposite of what they want
post 1646613043 09-08-2021, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted By PermaBulk610⏩
But you're going to take a booster anyway, just to have a "social life" ? Sheesh, this country is full of weak men.
If most of Silicon Valley, who is full of extremely intelligent people, is getting the vaccine, then why is Misc debating it? My co-workers would think I'm some sort of unintelligent conspiracy theory person if I refused to get the vaccine.

Yeah after being lockdowned last year I do want to see family and friends and participate in my adventure club activities. You can't go to concerts, bars, restaurants without a vaxx card.

That's just me though as that's the environment I live in. Ya'll can remain unvaccinated if you choose. I'm not for forcing it.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
This is true - however you don't breathe out blood. It CAN end up in your urine or feces, but unless your water supply is untreated or you're literally eating poop you're fine. You can't transmit spike proteins through the air.
Also, the spike proteins encoded by the vaccines are inert. The vaccines do not contain live virus.
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss⏩
If most of Silicon Valley, who is full of extremely intelligent people, is getting the vaccine, then why is Misc debating it? My co-workers would think I'm some sort of unintelligent conspiracy theory person if I refused to get the vaccine.

Yeah after being lockdowned last year I do want to see family and friends and participate in my adventure club activities. You can't go to concerts, bars, restaurants without a vaxx card.

That's just me though as that's the environment I live in. Ya'll can remain unvaccinated if you choose. I'm not for forcing it.
This is my stance. Choice is choice. I outlined my reasons and still got called a cuck and a sheep.
post 1646614163 09-08-2021, 09:42 AM
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Like I said 100 times.

There is a CURE.

Regardless of whether u believe Covid is real or not, if u get it - just get REGENERON.

100% protection from death. Most get better WITHIN AN HOUR in Florida. Look it up.

Media/dems don't want to talk about it - cuz it reuins the vaccine push.
Weight Loss: Go carnivore or keto/low carb. Create calorie deficit. Buy packaged healthy meals if needed. Meat is good and heals, stop being lied to.

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post 1646614233 09-08-2021, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss⏩
If most of Silicon Valley, who is full of extremely intelligent people, is getting the vaccine, then why is Misc debating it? My co-workers would think I'm some sort of unintelligent conspiracy theory person if I refused to get the vaccine.

Yeah after being lockdowned last year I do want to see family and friends and participate in my adventure club activities. You can't go to concerts, bars, restaurants without a vaxx card.

That's just me though as that's the environment I live in. Ya'll can remain unvaccinated if you choose. I'm not for forcing it.
1. Hey look intelligent people do it i should too!
2. You care what people think.

You're aids with tits.
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lmao dont resign, you must make them fire you
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
you're kinda minimalizing here, the paper is NOT the issue, the issue is being compelled to take something that is not as effective as advertised with unknown long term safety data. The Jews wore their stars...why fight it? Government is going to win anyway, and people just wanted to know who they were serving in their establishment.
Didn't you almost die of Covid?

You guys really gotta choose a side, either it's just a cold, or it's serious enough to require prophylaxis. If it's just a cold, then stop shoving horse medicine up your asses, and if it's not, then get the vaccine, or don't. I just wish both sides would shut the fuk up already.
When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
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Originally Posted By LizzieTish⏩
You're a walking dead man, congratulations, you won the prize. I dare you to go get a D-Dimer test and post your results on the forum.
You're not the first miscer to tell me to get a D-Dimer test. I emailed my dr, just waiting to hear back him now. I will post the results. I have been totally open about my vaccine experience from the beginning and I'll be open about this.

I think this study is worth noting.

"Elevated D-dimer levels common months after COVID-19 diagnosis' -->https://www.healio.com/news/hematolo...id19-diagnosis


-"More than one-quarter of patients with COVID-19 had elevated D-Dimer levels up to 4 months after diagnosis, according to study results published in Journal of Thrombosis and Haemostasis.''


I had my second shot on August 8th, so I won't be surprised if I have a higher level of D-Dimer, especially after reading this study and a few other studies on high D-Dimer after the vax, if that is confirmed I'll retest mid-November and post those results.
Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Didn't you almost die of Covid?

You guys really gotta choose a side, either it's just a cold, or it's serious enough to require prophylaxis. If it's just a cold, then stop shoving horse medicine up your asses, and if it's not, then get the vaccine, or don't. I just wish both sides would shut the fuk up already.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Godfrd824 again.
post 1646617913 09-08-2021, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Didn't you almost die of Covid?

You guys really gotta choose a side, either it's just a cold, or it's serious enough to require prophylaxis. If it's just a cold, then stop shoving horse medicine up your asses, and if it's not, then get the vaccine, or don't. I just wish both sides would shut the fuk up already.
Get out of here with your bullsht. People die from colds and flu viruses all the time. An FDA approved medicine for humans is "horse medicine" now? Lol, you fell for the propaganda hook line and sinker. Useful idiot.
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
where are you getting 0.67%? heres another actual study showing an IFR of 0.15% globally (naturally some places may vary).

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13554

Have you saw the symptoms for long covid? Some of it is very vague chit like "fatigue" or "anxiety", chit anybody can claim to have and considering the climate that we are in now with constant media bombardment of covid. Well yeah ... if you include all those symptoms 10-30% might have "long covid". But people don't actually know what it is and what it constitutes.
This is the problem with how dialogue of matters of science goes. There's tons of studies on everything, IFR rates are no different. Anyone can find a study that shows almost anything. That's where source comes in, and repetition/review. You ask where I came up with 0.67%, and I linked you the CDC report that showed 0.7%. The CDC is definitely more credible/authoritative than this not very strong European Journal you cited..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe..._Investigation

Also there's a difference between a study finding an anomaly, and that being reproduced several times by other sources

Nature for instance is top-tier, surely well higher than that European Journal, and they also put their IFR range where I said:https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2918-0
Assuming that these differences occur equally across all age groups would result in a change in the mean IFR for these countries of 0.66% to 0.87%
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Originally Posted By Tuga88⏩
Joe Rogan had it a week ago and is already back, fit and healthy doing podcasts. Shutdown the entire world for nearly 2 years because of this.
Joe Rogan has access to medical care most of you don't.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget⏩
This is true - however you don't breathe out blood. It CAN end up in your urine or feces, but unless your water supply is untreated or you're literally eating poop you're fine. You can't transmit spike proteins through the air.
Bloodstream takes them to lungs where they can be exhaled. It's not supposed to happen, but we don't know until the long term trials have been completed. New vaccine technologies are like any other new technologies... they have unexpected problems.

https://www.contagionlive.com/view/s...amage-to-lungs
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Originally Posted By RocknRollMuscle⏩
Like I said 100 times.

There is a CURE.

Regardless of whether u believe Covid is real or not, if u get it - just get REGENERON.

100% protection from death. Most get better WITHIN AN HOUR in Florida. Look it up.

Media/dems don't want to talk about it - cuz it reuins the vaccine push.
Here's the thing about Regeneron, I support it and all. But why are people willing to use that experimental medicine that has side-effects, and not the vaccines? It doesn't carry the same stigma. I think the vax was a big easy target for people to whip up hysteria over, but were like "meh whatevs" with the antibodies.

Also Regeneron costs way more than the vaccines, so if we're suspicious of profiteering, we're looking in the opposite direction.

FWIW I'm 25 hours after my second pfizer shot and had zero side effects, aside from a sore shoulder. I was expecting being laid up on the couch for a few days from all the nonsense that's out there
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
Get out of here with your bullsht. People die from colds and flu viruses all the time. An FDA approved medicine for humans is "horse medicine" now? Lol,you fell for the propaganda hook line and sinker.Useful idiot.
I didn't, I doubt all the people taking the dewormer are getting the medication made for humans. I doubt many Drs would prescribe it for Covid, so clearly they're using the animal formulations. You need to relax buddy, none of this is that serious. Ask yourself, why are you so mad about these things?
Originally Posted By stezus⏩
Here's the thing about Regeneron, I support it and all.But why are people willing to use that experimental medicine that has side-effects, and not the vaccines?It doesn't carry the same stigma. I think the vax was a big easy target for people to whip up hysteria over, but were like "meh whatevs" with the antibodies.

Also Regeneron costs way more than the vaccines, so if we're suspicious of profiteering, we're looking in the opposite direction.

FWIW I'm 25 hours after my second pfizer shot and had zero side effects, aside from a sore shoulder. I was expecting being laid up on the couch for a few days from all the nonsense that's out there
And that's why anti vaxxers don't make sense. No logic at all.
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Originally Posted By stezus⏩
I'm not gonna pressure people to get the vaccine, it's annoying, and I was on the other side before. But I am gonna correct one thing about this stat people loving throwing around.. the 99.97% survival rate. We can show this is incorrect simply and without bias.

That is by looking at the US covid death rate and dividing that by your presumed IFR (real death rate) of 0.03% or 0.0003 in an equation. Stats say we had 651k deaths. So 651,000 / 0.0003 = 2.17 billion.

In order for your claimed IFR to be right, 2.17 billion Americans got covid. Now you naturally will dispute the official death rate, but you can roughly verify it by looking at the trend of all cause mortality in the last few years and see.. a massive bump.

People make claims all they want, but when they're closely examined their credibility may take a huge hit. The IFR isn't 0.03%, it's closer to 0.67%. That's substantially higher by several fold than the seasonal flu. Now, you might say that's still such a small number, but the point is what it does to the hospitals and economy, since it obviously also spreads way faster than influenza.

Then there's the long covid that some 10-30% get, which in some cases you may have preferred death.
Where do you get this stat from? I've yet to see any literature that actually quantifies "long covid" into symptoms and stats. Genuinely curious. I hear people fear mongering about this all the time but am still trying to find something legitimate for this.
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Originally Posted By brontrepreneur⏩
Where do you get this stat from? I've yet to see any literature that actually quantifies "long covid" into symptoms and stats. Genuinely curious. I hear people fear mongering about this all the time but am still trying to find something legitimate for this.
he got it from the regular media obv.
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Ok I am going to use a Misc term that often gets applied to gay folk. Who the f' cares just don't shove it in my face. Get vaccinated or don't, it really is up to you but f' man why do people on both sides feel that they need to come into a public forum and post their opinion or status on it? Let it go.....you are not changing anyone's mind on either side.
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Originally Posted By LYCLifter⏩
Ok I am going to use a Misc term that often gets applied to gay folk. Who the f' cares just don't shove it in my face. Get vaccinated or don't, it really is up to you but f' man why do people on both sides feel that they need to come into a public forum and post their opinion or status on it? Let it go.....you are not changing anyone's mind on either side.
well lets not talk about anything then, its not like this has impacted anyone's life in anyway
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The fact the vaccines are safe and reduce the already small Covid risks and inconveniences overrule everything in OP. Misc is literally retarded.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
No, I didn't almost die. Second, I support the vaccine.You can support something but also support personal choice and freedom.

And the "horse medicine " barb is disingenuous. Ivermectin has been approved for human consumption long ago and is part of prophylactic and acute treatment in dozens of countries. If you want people to follow the science, it would help to not insult them or misrepresent a medicine. People are only taking the animal dosed Ivermectin due to the unwillingness of doctors to prescribe it. The irony? Alcohol, SSRIs, and other common drugs like statins and BP medication produce much more side effects and than properly dosed Ivermectin.
I agree with the bolded, if you want the vaccine, get it, if not, don't, but aligning yourself with crazy people just makes you look crazy. Remember, from outside the short bus people can't tell who is retarded and who is not.

The issue I have is that you'll hear someone say they won't take the vaccine because it's experimental, then they catch covid and suddenly they don't care about any experimental treatments that are used on them in the hospital. Or you'll have someone say that Covid is a hoax and not real, and then they go shove a tube of horse butter up their ass. My question is, why are they trying to pre-treat something that according to them is not real? All I want is consistency.

Personally I didn't change my behavior at all when Covid hit, and I went like that for more than a year and never caught it. Then the vaccine came out, and I got it because my wife works with immunocompromised people, and because my job required it if I wanted to stop using a mask in the office. After getting it, nothing changed.
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Originally Posted By mgftp⏩
The fact the vaccines are safeand reduce the already small Covid risks and inconveniences overrule everything in OP. Misc is literally retarded.
You have exactly zero evidence of that as not a single human has had it in their system for more than a year.

Just like the rushed 1977 swine flu vaccine was safe right?
Oh wait, they pulled it after injecting 45 million people because of health side effects.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_swine_flu_outbreak
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Originally Posted By stezus⏩
This is the problem with how dialogue of matters of science goes. There's tons of studies on everything, IFR rates are no different. Anyone can find a study that shows almost anything. That's where source comes in, and repetition/review. You ask where I came up with 0.67%, and I linked you the CDC report that showed 0.7%. The CDC is definitely more credible/authoritative than this not very strong European Journal you cited..https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe..._Investigation

Also there's a difference between a study finding an anomaly, and that being reproduced several times by other sources

Nature for instance is top-tier, surely well higher than that European Journal, and they also put their IFR range where I said:https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2918-0
appeal to authority fallacy. criticize the study and the methods themselves. You're just lazily dismissing a study that you at best just took a glimpse at based on your opinion of what source is credible and what isn't. Also lol @ CDC being credible. see how that works?

that study was done by a leading world epidemiologist as well if you want to go that route.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
I agree with the bolded, if you want the vaccine, get it, if not, don't, but aligning yourself with crazy people just makes you look crazy. Remember, from outside the short bus people can't tell who is retarded and who is not.

The issue I have is that you'll hear someone say they won't take the vaccine because it's experimental, then they catch covid and suddenly they don't care about any experimental treatments that are used on them in the hospital. Or you'll have someone say that Covid is a hoax and not real, and then they go shove a tube of horse butter up their ass. My question is, why are they trying to pre-treat something that according to them is not real? All I want is consistency.

Personally I didn't change my behavior at all when Covid hit, and I went like that for more than a year and never caught it. Then the vaccine came out, and I got it because my wife works with immunocompromised people, and because my job required it if I wanted to stop using a mask in the office. After getting it, nothing changed.
Yup. it's like there's no middle ground people have to take a ridiculously extreme stance one way or the other surrounding the pandemic. Just a steady and constant stream of reeeeeeeeeeeeeing from both sides about it.
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Originally Posted By naich⏩
You have exactly zero evidence of that as not a single human has had it in their system for more than a year.

Just like the rushed 1977 swine flu vaccine was safe right?
Oh wait, they pulled it after injecting 45 million people because of health side effects.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_swine_flu_outbreak
-last paragraph in "chronology section"
As of now with the data we have it's safe, much safer than getting Covid. No chit we don't have long term data, nor do we have long term data on contracting Covid or data on having had a severe case of a Covid.
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