Are you actually going to pretend there is no vested interest in the Phamacutical companies pushing this vaccine & the Government agencies curtailing with them..?

It’s like you ignore everything in the posts & Cherry-pick what you respond to. Typical lib.

Can you please explain what is being shown here..

https://m.imgur.com/a/iruO2ue


Also..if this was not a clear enough explanation, I don’t know how much simpler the author could be for mid-witts like yourself..

“This study explores a drug candidate for prevention and treatment of such ADAA-based diseases”

“we found that the majority of vaccine-induced antibodies did not have neutralizing activity.”


ADAA = what we call ADE . The very thing Dr Robert Malone and others have been warning about/saying they are seeing indications of this happening, but of course they were censored and "fact-checked" but retards like yourself

Check out: SEC Pfizer risks

You’ll see all the known risks the doctors have been labeled conspiracy were known before it came to market.

You can also find that the share holders (investors) are actually the hospitals and healthcare systems.

That’s seems like a conflict of interest.
Page 20, 23, & on & on

https://www.sec.gov/divisions/corpfi...8-incoming.pdf

Please do tell me about “vested interest”

This is sadly the case most of the time.

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1647109143]

It’s like you ignore everything in the posts & Cherry-pick what you respond to. Typical lib.[quote]

Im the one cherry picking, youre ****ing delusional... Im sorry you pick bad sources


[QUOTE=Paul Kreul post_id=1647109143]Can you please explain what is being shown here..

[URL=https://m.imgur.com/a/iruO2ue]https://m.imgur.com/a/iruO2ue[/URL][/QUOTE]Im not sure, probably various reasons (neither of us are experts on covid in israel)... I mean if the days surrounding august 16th can be extrapolated seems like the majority of people in the hospitals are unvaxxed, they share a border with palestine which has like an 8% rate, the goys are in control of israel and are getting back at the cabal? I dont ****ing know but apparently you have the answer

dunning meet kruegar

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul post_id=1647109143]
Also..if this was not a clear enough explanation, I don’t know how much simpler the author could be for mid-witts like yourself..


“This study explores a drug candidate for prevention and treatment of such ADAA-based diseases”
[/QUOTE]You might as well as said this study is about covid/ lemme put in my spin that isn't discussed once in the article. Also why did you quote that? Its not in the article...

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul post_id=1647109143]“we found that the majority of vaccine-induced antibodies did not have neutralizing activity.”[/QUOTE]why did you remove the beginning and ending to that sentence you clipped?

[QUOTE]Polyclonal antibody responses in vaccinees were robust and comparable to or exceeded those seen after natural infection. However, the ratio of binding to neutralizing antibodies after vaccination was greater than that after natural infection and, at the monoclonal level, we found that the majority of vaccine-induced antibodies did not have neutralizing activity.... suggesting that a proportion of vaccine-induced RBD binding antibodies may provide substantial protection against viral variants carrying single E484K RBD mutations.[/QUOTE]so you never made it past the summary and picked one line in it and ignored the rest around that hint hint doesnt fit this narrative you, gotcha. I actually read the entire discussion[img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]


from the discussion

[QUOTE]Whether or not the current vaccines will provide effective protection against circulating and emerging viral variants of concern is an important question which has gathered a lot of attention in early 2021. Our data indicate that reduction in binding to the E484K and B.1.351 variant RBDs was minor (often only 2-fold) compared to reported reduction in neutralization (which ranges from 6-8 fold to complete loss of neutralization (Cele et al., 2021; Wibmer et al., 2021; Wu et al., 2021)). Although not tested here, it is likely that the reduction in binding to full length spike is even lower, given the many epitopes on the spike other than NTD and RBD. The maintenance of binding to a large degree observed in this study suggests that viral variants will have a minor impact on serological assays which are currently in wide use for medical, scientific and public health reasons. Binding, non-neutralizing antibodies have also been shown to have a protective effect in many viral infections (Asthagiri Arunkumar et al., 2019; Dilillo et al., 2014; Saphire et al., 2018) and may be a factor in the substantial residual protection seen in the Johnson & Johnson and Novavax vaccine trials against B.1.351 in South Africa (Shinde et al., 2021). Production of non-neutralizing antibodies may also play a role in protection by mRNA vaccines after the first dose, as it is substantial and occurs during a time when neutralizing antibody titers are either very low or absent (Baden et al., 2020; Dagan et al., 2021; Polack et al., 2020). Finally, although some antibodies may lose neutralizing activity due to reduced affinity, they do still bind. Furthermore, B cells with these specificities potentially could undergo affinity maturation after exposure to a variant virus or a variant spike-containing vaccine, leading to high affinity antibodies to variant viruses of concern.

In summary, we demonstrate that the antibody responses to SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination comprise a large proportion of non-neutralizing antibodies and are co-dominated by NTD and RBD antibodies. The NTD portion of the spike represents, thus, an important vaccine target. Since all viral variants of concern are heavily mutated in this region, these observations warrant further attention to optimize SARS-CoV-2 vaccines. Finally, broadly cross-reactive mAbs to β-coronavirus spike proteins are induced after vaccination, and suggest a potential development path for a pan-β-coronavirus vaccine.[/QUOTE]
mate this is some dense as **** reading that you would need a masters or doctorate in a relevant field to first read and completely grasp... I dunno why youre being so arrogant... Are we speaking in absolutes and overcompensating for something here?



Here, i tried to interpret your graph, heres mine

youve peaked

[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_Effect_01.svg/512px-Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_Effect_01.svg.png[/img]


Also i know you havent read this far but again....

explain why in BC youre 8x more likely to die unvaxxed, and 34x more likely to be hospitalized if unvaxxed...

This. Why is OP sharing misinformation?

[QUOTE=Smithers115;1647112353][QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1647109143]

It’s like you ignore everything in the posts & Cherry-pick what you respond to. Typical lib.[QUOTE]
Im the one cherry picking, youre ****ing delusional... Im sorry you pick bad sources




Im not sure, probably various reasons (neither of us are experts on covid in israel)... I mean if the days surrounding august 16th can be extrapolated seems like the majority of people in the hospitals are unvaxxed, they share a border with palestine which has like an 8% rate, the goys are in control of israel and are getting back at the cabal? I dont ****ing know but apparently you have the answer

dunning meet kruegar



You might as well as said this study is about covid/ lemme put in my spin that isn't discussed once in the article. Also why did you quote that? Its not in the article...



why did you remove the beginning and ending to that sentence you clipped?



so you never made it past the summary and picked one line in it and ignored the rest around that hint hint doesnt fit this narrative you, gotcha. I actually read the entire discussion[img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img]


from the discussion




mate this is some dense as **** reading that you would need a masters or doctorate in a relevant field to first read and completely grasp... I dunno why youre being so arrogant... Are we speaking in absolutes and overcompensating for something here?



Here, i tried to interpret your graph, heres mine

youve peaked

[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_Effect_01.svg/512px-Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_Effect_01.svg.png[/img]


Also i know you havent read this far but again....

explain why in BC youre 8x more likely to die unvaxxed, and 34x more likely to be hospitalized if unvaxxed...[/QUOTE]Tries to apply Dunning-Kruger to others while being the embodiment of StockHolm Syndrome..how cute.

Dude, the evidence is right in front of your fukin face, in a pretty little picture for you to understand..as soon as the 3rd jab was administered, right after July 30, deaths skyrocketed & haven’t let up Sense. A small drop around the 16th of August, but then right back up again, never once dropping down to pre-jab Numbers. If the vaccines were actually effective in what they were designed to do, this should not be the case.

I already explained BC, the fact that so many are dying & experiencing life threatening side effects while being vaxxed..yet because there is a supposed 2 week window where one can be unvaxxed, yet actually vaxxed where most deaths take place..directly post vaccine jab..should of given you a fukin hint.

Seriously bro, It’s been a pleasure to speak with the poster child for the pro-choice movement

Dying with Covid must be so rare that it makes national news

[QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1647117983][QUOTE=Smithers115;1647112353][QUOTE=Paul Kreul post_id=1647109143]
It’s like you ignore everything in the posts & Cherry-pick what you respond to. Typical lib.

Tries to apply Dunning-Kruger to others while being the embodiment of StockHolm Syndrome..how cute.[/QUOTE]not at all, im very quick to say that im not an expert on these things ( i literally did a couple posts ago) and would gladly trust the science aka experts who have spent their lives in these fields... Ive got a bachelors of science and have taken relevent courses to the subject matter, but im not stupid or conceited enough to posture on the misc im an expert in micro, clinical chem, virology etc.... Youre literally the one making strong claims whilst providing awful evidence or evidence that literally has nothing to do with what you're talking about. You posted a study that literally shows vaccines being more effective than the control with natural infection, you were just too stupid or lazy to read past the abstract. AND you even misread that lol

[QUOTE]Dude, the evidence is right in front of your fukin face, in a pretty little picture for you to understand..as soon as the 3rd jab was administered, right after July 30, deaths skyrocketed & haven’t let up Sense. A small drop around the 16th of August, but then right back up again, never once dropping down to pre-jab Numbers. If the vaccines were actually effective in what they were designed to do, this should not be the case.[/QUOTE]Right here, i would never make this claim but im not a ****ing moron stringing together evidence together to fit my bias that ends up having more holes than swiss cheese

[QUOTE]
I already explained BC, the fact that so many are dying & experiencing life threatening side effects while being vaxxed..yet because there is a supposed 2 week window where one can be unvaxxed, yet actually vaxxed where most deaths take place..directly post vaccine jab..should of given you a fukin hint.

Seriously bro, It’s been a pleasure to speak with the poster child for the pro-choice movement[/QUOTE]This "2 week window" is literally taken into account for... The data set in bc includes no vax PERIOD, one vax or two vax. The unvaxxed crowed isnt in this two week window your entire argument rests on

Try again brainlet

[QUOTE=Smithers115;1647118953][QUOTE=Paul Kreul;1647117983][QUOTE=Smithers115 post_id=1647112353]
not at all, im very quick to say that im not an expert on these things ( i literally did a couple posts ago) and would gladly trust the science aka experts who have spent their lives in these fields... Ive got a bachelors of science and have taken relevent courses to the subject matter, but im not stupid or conceited enough to posture on the misc im an expert in micro, clinical chem, virology etc.... Youre literally the one making prescriptive claims whilst providing awful evidence or evidence that literally has nothing to do with what you're talking about. You posted a study that literally shows vaccines being more effective than the control with natural infection, you were just too stupid or lazy to read past the abstract. AND you even misread that lol



Right here, i would never make this claim but im not a ****ing moron stringing together evidence together to fit my bias that ends up having more holes than swiss cheese



This "2 week window" is literally taken into account for... The data set in bc includes no vax PERIOD, one vax or two vax. The unvaxxed crowed isnt in this two week window your entire argument rests on

Try again brainlet[/QUOTE]Funny how you only pointed to one study, while ignoring the other, & the words of Robert Malone Himself.

You see that spike? That spike is going to be incredible this next round. You can see it on the rise now.
Something is very wrong in Israel. Give it a couple of more weeks, then I think they will have to admit that the vaccines are making the situation worse. With new records of infected being set every week, they cannot continue blaming this on the unvaccinated.

Never claimed to be an expert, I’m just looking at the data & presenting it. It speaks for itself

[URL=https://m.imgur.com/jCXxVJ5]https://m.imgur.com/jCXxVJ5[/URL]


Sure pal, you have a better education than me, unfortunately you’ll never be as successful

Why is this news?

If only he had worn 350 masks and a biohazard suit he might's lasted 3 months longer

Bruh, i read the entire ****ing thing not the abstract. Im not spending hours sifting through journal articles for you to handwave off, its literally pointless... all i got was confirmation i read it and you didnt and tried to bull****an appeal to authority followed by the “Simpson’s paradox" followed by cope

You keep talking about how the israeli population has a high vaccination rate, but have you thought about age differences between the unvaxxed and vaxxed? How much you wanna bet that the vaxxed population is a significantly higher mean age over the unvaxxed pop? This is rhetorical cause we both know the answer. You need to look at the per capita between the two (hint unvaxxed have a higher % of cases, hospitilizations and deaths theres just less of them)... sure in july mayube there were more vaxxed cases but this makes sense since the age difference between those two cohorts and the volume. Of course old people are going be hospitalized at higher rates dummy... This is a perfect example of missreading of data to skew a narrative that the average person will be tricked by or missinterpret themselve... This is why conservatives were posting dumb memes about african countries like the congo having lower covid rates/vaccine compared to the states but then not realising many variables like the average age in the congo is 19 vs the us and other western countries its like 40.... plus comorbidities, plus population movement etc etc etc etc etc